There are plenty of wrestlers who have messed up in the ring. That's no reason to fire someone.
He seems like someone who was blunt and outspoken. And unless you ae a big star that always rubs "the office" the wrong way. We all saw how Punk was treated for years before the pipebomb. And even that wouldn't have happened if Punk wasn't okay with continuing to be in the same position.
It just amazes me that of all the guys they have on the roster, this is the guy they decide should get this push. AJ might win the IC CHmapionship in Paris. Then H will hold that over everyone's head till AJ's retirement as his example of pushing AJ.
As far as his push was concerned, the injury was definitely the biggest factor for him not becoming World Champion. But I think the Orton incident, combined with his backstage perception probably led to his exit from the company. When the Benoit incident happened he went on TV and was very honest admitting to using prescription pain-killers, which I'm sure didn't help his standing within the company either.He was so over with every portion of the fanbase & we were all riding his bandwagon, without a doubt a favourite of mine from the RA era. Didn’t the Orton incident occur well after he won the MITB?
If that was the case, then I would say that his injury was more crushing, say Mr. Kenney doesn’t get injured and actually manages to hold onto the briefcase until WM 24, which was the plan and it would have been really interested to see how that would have gone! (There was a countdown clock for his cash-in on WWE.com? don’t know how I remember that, I must have looked at it weekly).
Say he actually managed to cash-in & become world champion, there’s a strong possibility that if the Orton incident did occur after that, then Kennedy would have some influence within the company that would prevent his firing, maybe he’d drop the belt worse case, but by then if Kenny was a success during his championship run then I feel it would have given him leverage.
Man, I used to be a Triple H fan, but growing up is realising is that childhood heroes aren't what you thought them to be.@shaz619 @Suleiman @The_KING @BunnyRabbit @Rafale Nidhal
Stevie talks alot of sense. And he would know H considering he was on RAW during the peak of the reign of terror
Orton was going through a very popular heel run at the time, and as an established star was more important to them. I've also heard that he got Cena to go along with him as Cena had supposedly gotten injured in a match with Kennedy before No Mercy, which kept him out for a year till he returned at Rumble 2008. Though looking at that match, Cena tore his pec off a hip-toss, one of the most basics moves in the book, so I'm not sure how you can blame him there either.
I used to think it was Hiedenreich with a new gimmick.
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Triple H and his merry band of writer stooges strike again. Now that they've shown who all these dopes are in their own documentary show, I think they are fair game and just as complicit in all this as H himself.
What's amazing is how they just can't tolerate someone who gets over on their own. Sami Zayn, LA Knight, R-Truth, Karrion Kross.
I'm not a huge fan of Kross or anything but fact is, he got over on his own. The fans wanted that. Look at R-Truth. After Triple H was made to look like a clown and was forced and bring him back, now he has turned back into a comedy character too.
His ego just can't tolerate the fans thinking of themselves and supporting someone who isn't being shoved down their throars. And then he has the gall to talk about "pivoting." Vince was known for doing the same alot of times when he got to his senile stage. Not pushing Cesaro is probably one of the best examples. But he wasn't a hypocrite like H, who tries to project himself as this revolutionary wrestling thinker who wants what's best for the fans. He's just an idiot who doesn't understand anything about wrestling or booking despite being in the business for all his adult life.
WWE News: Karrion Kross says he was told by ‘certain people’ not to acknowledge fan support
Kross opened up about the fan response he was getting prior to his contract expiring.
I used to think it was Hiedenreich with a new gimmick.
And WWE needs to be booked by someone who understands prowrestling, Hbk, Austin or even Dwayne. Basically anyone over Hunter at this point.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Dwayne is poison too. And if he gets the reins it won't be him booking, it'll be his little side-kick stooge Brian Gewirtz. And we've already seen his brilliant ideas considering he was a head writer for WWE till 2015.
I can listen to Bret talk **** about Triple Fraud all day.
I think you're right. Reading some stuff online that makes me now think this is a work. It would be so H to do this and then act like he got one over on the internet. The fact that Kross is now saying that he was really disappointed by the offer he received from WWE really makes me question the whole thing. Usually if someone was fired from WWE, you wouldn't see them discussing their offer so publicly.
Man I felt for Taker during that era. Can you believe he worked back to back PPV matches with Heidenreich and Luther Reigns? What did he do to deserve that? Run over Vince's dog with his car?
Scarlett is great. It's a shame the era of valets is practically over. She could have been a massive star in another era. Because she is married in Kross in real life I also think it's unlikely that she will break away from him. Unless ofcourse they get divorced lol.
Steph literally made the rapper gimmick for Cena. Gave birth to an arguable GOAT who was otherwise gonna be let go. She saw he could rap and told him use that as your gimmick… rest was history
lately with these posts You go into the specifics of what I’ve been trying to convey but in a much better way, I am too consumed by my hatred for H, I am happy to admit I am a hater.
It’s ok. I am a hater of his as well.You been on
Taker spent so much of his career walking with absolutely rubbish wrestlers, such as Mabel, Giant Gonzalez, Heindreich, Luther Reigns, The Great Khali. Only from 2007 onwards, did he consistently work with wrestlers that allowed him to truly showcase his in-ring ability.
Yeah and by that point he was pretty much close to winding down his full-time in-ring career. Can you believe that they initially had Undertaker & Kane v Heidenreich & Snitsky planned for WrestleMania 21. I am so glad that match never happened.
Well you know the cardinal rule of HHH booking: only strike when the iron is cold.
I remember seeing this when it happened and feeling so bad for JR. I always saw him as the voice of reason on a show of people who were completely nuts. Even his broadcast partner Jerry Lawler was a complete horndog who couldn't stop talking about "puppies."How about this one?
Undertaker had his fair share of stinkers at Wrestlemania, not due to any fault of his own. It’s fair to say Undertaker & Kane vs Heidenreich & Stinsky would have been another stinker. Thank God, it didn’t happen and we got Taker vs Orton, instead.
Yeah but as much as I love Truth he has never been presented at that level. They knew full well that once he came back they were going to give him a spotlight for a few weeks and then sideline him. Which is exactly what they did. Another reason why I think the fan uproar was so massive was because they did this right after he was involved in one of the most high-profile storylines with Cena.
I have heard this rumor from a few people and I have to say I seriously question it. Especially considering how Mustafa Ali has been presented on TV before and after this period. Another rumor I heard, that I found more credible was Kevin Owens going over Bryan at WrestleMania.
The point was, anyone other than Trips. Don't care if they replace Trips with Scott DAmore.
She's a much better in ring worker than Kross tbh. Saw her matches in indies and TNA. she's pretty good.
When he returned as the American Badass, he was squashing jobbers every week with the last ride i remember. But he made Jeff Hardy a Singles star in one match. Apart from that, his match with Angle at No Way Out in 2006. In 99 and 2000, he was wrestling Val Venis, T and A, and the jobber versions of Edge, Christian, Xpac, Road Dogg, Mideon, Raven etc.
But that’s how you truly generate old school shock value.
