The Wrestling Discussion Thread

[shaz619]

Beautiful…

You know Cena is a real car head when he’s out here hyping up Civic Type R and trying to put AJ on with a sponsor when Cena too is in that Ferrari, Lambo league atp.

I didn’t realise AJ was a petrolhead lol makes sense he wanted a Porsche lmao

Cena actually daily’s his Type R, and here’s me moaning sometimes about my manual when am in heavy congestion lol

Pretty cool exchange though

 

[Suleiman]

Don't have alot of positive things to say about the show but everything involving Orton was absolute perfection. I LOLed when he called Cardona a mark a$$ stooge and an indie nerd, and then later when he tried to lull him into a false sense of security by telling him he plays video-games too

As for the sell, not that Sami isn't a great seller but I think that kick from Black was legit. They showed a slow-motion replay and it looked like he got him good.

Nothing against Fatu, but for the second year in a row, Drew feels like he is stuck in a midcard feud. This is better than the Priest feud from last year but you could do so much more with him. I think we can add Jacob Fatu to the list of people who have gone from being over like molten lava to being just another babyface on the roster. It feels like they have completely neutered him. He is not the guy who is supposed to be doing long promos. He's supposed to be booked like a wild animal who causes destruction at will. I dunno if the feud warrants HIAC but you definitely need to do some sort of gimmick match at Mania.

Randy dialogue these days is peak

That indie nerd line was great.

 

[shaz619]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2036235785368695079

I think JC doing Lesnar a disservice, Hogan got paid in an entire Island - yet what was stopping him from physically tapping at Starrcade 97, never mind the selling….

 

[shaz619]

Randy dialogue these days is peak

That indie nerd line was great.

He would be more hated in AEW as a heel than MJF

 

[Suleiman]

He would be more hated in AEW as a heel than MJF

He would have more freedom too.

He understands what we want to see and hear as fans low key lol. One of the few whose work gets more refined longer he sticks around

 

[Suleiman]

Yall remember brawl for all LOL

Unhinged Vince golden years

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Randy dialogue these days is peak

That indie nerd line was great.

And the delivery too lol. He does a great job of constantly making you question if he's really being sincere or just being a snake. Like that backstage Jelly segment - I was questioning the same thing again.

Hope he beats the p*ss out of Jelly too at some point and leaves him in a pool of his own blood. Now that is something I would actually welcome.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Yall remember brawl for all LOL

Unhinged Vince golden years

There is an amazing Dark Side of the Ring episode on this that is sooo entertaining lol. They removed it from YouTube but I urge you to seek and out and watch it, you will get a real kick out of it.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I am looking forward to Brock Lesnar v Oba Femi now. This is starting to have the feel of a real heavyweight fight.

Paul Heyman did an amazing job of selling this match on the microphone. And then Oba coming to the ring and laying Lesnar out for the second week running was fantastic too. When Lesnar is motivated there is nobody quite like him in the wrestling business. There is nothing quite like a Brock Lesnar match - its it's own genre of match. Brock's expressions of just pure shock after being laid out were amazing. Oba is getting over and for once they have actually put someone new in a position where they have the chance to instantly shine and move upwards.

My guess is Paul Heyman will book the match because he generally books all of Lesnar's matches and handles all his creative stuff, which is why I have high hopes for it. Because nobody books big man matches like Paul Heyman.

 

[shaz619]

I am looking forward to Brock Lesnar v Oba Femi now. This is starting to have the feel of a real heavyweight fight.

Paul Heyman did an amazing job of selling this match on the microphone. And then Oba coming to the ring and laying Lesnar out for the second week running was fantastic too. When Lesnar is motivated there is nobody quite like him in the wrestling business. There is nothing quite like a Brock Lesnar match - its it's own genre of match. Brock's expressions of just pure shock after being laid out were amazing. Oba is getting over and for once they have actually put someone new in a position where they have the chance to instantly shine and move upwards.

My guess is Paul Heyman will book the match because he generally books all of Lesnar's matches and handles all his creative stuff, which is why I have high hopes for it. Because nobody books big man matches like Paul Heyman.

Maybe it’s too much for Oba at this stage, but I think they should seriously consider putting this on as the main-event on N1, it has so much heat; it just shows that despite the year 2026, pro-wrestling is at its best when the traditional roots are respected.

I don’t think the match needs to be more than 7-10 mins, the layout should be the Heyman template from Berg v Lesnar 3 at WM, a delicious squash. I don’t mind the 50/50 thing, but they will achieve their objectives better with a shorter match.

 

[shaz619]

Don't have alot of positive things to say about the show but everything involving Orton was absolute perfection. I LOLed when he called Cardona a mark a$$ stooge and an indie nerd, and then later when he tried to lull him into a false sense of security by telling him he plays video-games too

As for the sell, not that Sami isn't a great seller but I think that kick from Black was legit. They showed a slow-motion replay and it looked like he got him good.

Nothing against Fatu, but for the second year in a row, Drew feels like he is stuck in a midcard feud. This is better than the Priest feud from last year but you could do so much more with him. I think we can add Jacob Fatu to the list of people who have gone from being over like molten lava to being just another babyface on the roster. It feels like they have completely neutered him. He is not the guy who is supposed to be doing long promos. He's supposed to be booked like a wild animal who causes destruction at will. I dunno if the feud warrants HIAC but you definitely need to do some sort of gimmick match at Mania.

That got me I play the Elden Ring bro but you’re about to get murdered, I think both those guys did great to make it look like Black stiffed him, I’ve seen Sami sell like that before to, the timing was just perfect. Yeah I take your point I agree both should be taken in different direction really, Fatu is more of a unhinged personality like a Cactus Jack then be talking like one of the Uso’s & Drew should be in the championship match, but I like that they keeping it pro, & doing their best to make this a compelling feud, I am more interested in it now

 

[Suleiman]

And the delivery too lol. He does a great job of constantly making you question if he's really being sincere or just being a snake. Like that backstage Jelly segment - I was questioning the same thing again.

Hope he beats the p*ss out of Jelly too at some point and leaves him in a pool of his own blood. Now that is something I would actually welcome.

I hope so too. Jelly beans, rolls etc got no business making wrestling feel even less believable.

Gone are the days you would have Mayweather, Tyson fury or Mike Tyson step in and really add value to wrestling instead. Now we have this whore for cash H at the helm getting celebs just for a bigger payout even if dirties the product

 

[Suleiman]

Didn’t know it actually got this close! I remember we were all talking about what if Kurt went down the MMA route- turns out he did attempt to get in.

But my guess based on the vid is after all that damage to the neck it must’ve been pretty tough to pass the physical, and health wise by 09-10 good thing he didn’t .

 

[Suleiman]

Super underrated mid card heel run. Don’t think it’d be wrong to say that title run was far more entertaining than majority of his current ones outside of Cena / Roman feud.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I hope so too. Jelly beans, rolls etc got no business making wrestling feel even less believable.

Gone are the days you would have Mayweather, Tyson fury or Mike Tyson step in and really add value to wrestling instead. Now we have this whore for cash H at the helm getting celebs just for a bigger payout even if dirties the product

Yeah the drop off in quality is massive. We've gone from those guys and even guys like Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone to a Trump $ucking country music star with face tattoos called Jelly Roll. Even Bad Bunny I find less offensive than this guy because nobody buys that he could beat up any wrestler. But I have no doubt that they will find a way to top this too..

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

That got me I play the Elden Ring bro but you’re about to get murdered, I think both those guys did great to make it look like Black stiffed him, I’ve seen Sami sell like that before to, the timing was just perfect. Yeah I take your point I agree both should be taken in different direction really, Fatu is more of a unhinged personality like a Cactus Jack then be talking like one of the Uso’s & Drew should be in the championship match, but I like that they keeping it pro, & doing their best to make this a compelling feud, I am more interested in it now

I think the central issue of this feud could be something interesting. Drew has maintained from the start that he wasn't the one who attacked Fatu, and they never showed us who that was. Assuming Drew is telling the truth - which he always tells us he does - it could be interesting if that person attacks Fatu again at some point towards the end of this feud, and reveals himself as the attacker.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Maybe it’s too much for Oba at this stage, but I think they should seriously consider putting this on as the main-event on N1, it has so much heat; it just shows that despite the year 2026, pro-wrestling is at its best when the traditional roots are respected.

I don’t think the match needs to be more than 7-10 mins, the layout should be the Heyman template from Berg v Lesnar 3 at WM, a delicious squash. I don’t mind the 50/50 thing, but they will achieve their objectives better with a shorter match.

Nah I'm okay with the World title matches main-eventing both nights. I think they are bigger matches than Brock v Oba. I feel Brock v Oba will deliver wherever you put it on the card. Because it has the feel of a special attraction match and I agree with you, I don't expect it to run more than 10-11 mins either. An explosive, high-impact match that plays much like a heavyweight fight.

 

[Suleiman]

Yeah the drop off in quality is massive. We've gone from those guys and even guys like Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone to a Trump $ucking country music star with face tattoos called Jelly Roll. Even Bad Bunny I find less offensive than this guy because nobody buys that he could beat up any wrestler. But I have no doubt that they will find a way to top this too..

He’s so bad at identifying talent it’s not even funny.

Could’ve easily given Speed as much of a spotlight and boost as Jelly bean, who is easily one of the most naturally athletic celebs / Internet personalities ever, even more than Logan (minus the wrestling experience) but who the hell cares when Jelly bean has zero athleticism and wrestling experience.

And on top of that he already did an episode with Randy in WWE developmental and he did not look out of place.

That way he could’ve gotten his internet / music star feature craving taken care of .

But he’s still learning to give up his racist tendencies or is just clueless

 

[shaz619]

Nah I'm okay with the World title matches main-eventing both nights. I think they are bigger matches than Brock v Oba. I feel Brock v Oba will deliver wherever you put it on the card. Because it has the feel of a special attraction match and I agree with you, I don't expect it to run more than 10-11 mins either. An explosive, high-impact match that plays much like a heavyweight fight.

From a trad POV title fights should end the night, but that match has captivated the fans & is doing much better numbers then anything else other than maybe Punk/Reigns, two big meaty men slapping meat has always been the biggest attraction in wrestling & even now, when the execution is spot on; Oba is a special talent & I guess they are lucky to have Lesnar because he elevates the whole event.

 

[shaz619]

He’s so bad at identifying talent it’s not even funny.

Could’ve easily given Speed as much of a spotlight and boost as Jelly bean, who is easily one of the most naturally athletic celebs / Internet personalities ever, even more than Logan (minus the wrestling experience) but who the hell cares when Jelly bean has zero athleticism and wrestling experience.

And on top of that he already did an episode with Randy in WWE developmental and he did not look out of place.

That way he could’ve gotten his internet / music star feature craving taken care of .

But he’s still learning to give up his racist tendencies or is just clueless

I read somewhere they are bringing any lanju panju with some followers in to help with the tickets

 

[shaz619]

Unreal got nominated for a few Emmy’s, I think you all know who is going to be attending the awards ceremony /10

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

He’s so bad at identifying talent it’s not even funny.

Could’ve easily given Speed as much of a spotlight and boost as Jelly bean, who is easily one of the most naturally athletic celebs / Internet personalities ever, even more than Logan (minus the wrestling experience) but who the hell cares when Jelly bean has zero athleticism and wrestling experience.

And on top of that he already did an episode with Randy in WWE developmental and he did not look out of place.

That way he could’ve gotten his internet / music star feature craving taken care of .

But he’s still learning to give up his racist tendencies or is just clueless

I really enjoy Speed. That kid is talented. And I don't even follow his YouTube channel. I agree, you could use him as a demolition dummy and get far more traction on social media, which they are crazy for. Why are they trying to appeal to country hicks anyway? I mean who else is listening to Jelly Roll?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

From a trad POV title fights should end the night, but that match has captivated the fans & is doing much better numbers then anything else other than maybe Punk/Reigns, two big meaty men slapping meat has always been the biggest attraction in wrestling & even now, when the execution is spot on; Oba is a special talent & I guess they are lucky to have Lesnar because he elevates the whole event.

At the very least I think it should open the show. Because this is the type of match that is perfect for getting the crowd going. Couldn't agree more on the other points.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Unreal got nominated for a few Emmy’s, I think you all know who is going to be attending the awards ceremony /10

lol this was always his goal.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Say what you will about ol' Jelly though, I don't think anyone comes close to Travis Scott as the worst celeb they tried to shoehorn in. His interference at last year's WrestleMania will always have its place in wrestling meme history. Thankfully though it seems like he burned this bridge and won't be coming back.

 

[shaz619]

lol this was always his goal.

Snake is always ahead of the curve when securing his own opportunities, even if it means prostituting the business he allegedly loves & respects. If he loses his job tomorrow H will still eat well, and that doesn’t sit well with me, the only hope now is that the pacemaker malfunctions.

 

[sweep_shot]

Stumbled upon this classic match today --> John Cena vs Eddie Guererro - Parking Lot Brawl match.

Eddie performed a frog splash on Cena on top of a car and got the victory (with assistance from Chavo).

Good old days of pro-wrestling.

 

[shaz619]

Say what you will about ol' Jelly though, I don't think anyone comes close to Travis Scott as the worst celeb they tried to shoehorn in. His interference at last year's WrestleMania will always have its place in wrestling meme history. Thankfully though it seems like he burned this bridge and won't be coming back.

I am against celebs taking part in any form like this, it’s acceptable in a tag team scenario when they have some kind of athletic background and are respectful. Even the bugs bunny deal was a disgrace and a reflection of how the in-ring product has degraded & so called performers like Orange Pockets make me sick or the blow up doll loving moron. It’s a bit different with Logan Paul because he actually trained to become a full time performer eventually & is respectful towards wrestling, so we can take him out of celeb category, but how disgraceful that any bum off the street can show up & have a full blown match, is this backyard wrestling? Comedy is maybe ok, but we’ve seen these guys go 50/50 & the idiot fans lap all of this up like wow fatty, great job, I didn’t expect that. It sets a very low bar for the entire locker room.

 

[shaz619]

Stumbled upon this classic match today --> John Cena vs Eddie Guererro - Parking Lot Brawl match.

Eddie performed a frog splash on Cena on top of a car and got the victory (with assistance from Chavo).

Good old days of pro-wrestling.

One of my favourite matches ever on SD & a very underrated feud, if we still had the Network we could have relived every episode.

 

[sweep_shot]

One of my favourite matches ever on SD & a very underrated feud, if we still had the Network we could have relived every episode.

Yup.

It is also one of my favorite matches of all time.

For old WWE matches, there is a YouTube channel called "WWE Vault" (run by WWE).

 

[shaz619]

Yup.

It is also one of my favorite matches of all time.

For old WWE matches, there is a YouTube channel called "WWE Vault" (run by WWE).

I am aware of that YT & it’s good for obscure hidden gems, but I still liked the old Network, like you could pull up each episode of SD from that feud & then properly enjoy the match even more

 

[sweep_shot]

I am aware of that YT & it’s good for obscure hidden gems, but I still liked the old Network, like you could pull up each episode of SD from that feud & then properly enjoy the match even more

I see.

Yeah. I would love that too. I can watch those all day.

I don't think I missed many WWE episodes from 2000 till 2009. Used to watch regularly.