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Tour Match: England A v Pakistan [Updates & Post Match]

this game is getting soo boring, cant england A declare or at least attack the partime bowlers, they do have 9 wickets in hand
 
Nice Idea Sid...Inzy with his left arm spin after all he has got Lara as his 1st wicket ;)
 
let it rain !!! i mean all England A are looking to do is get our players tired before
the 1st test.. reason why Inzi has got Farhat and Butt bowling ...
 
KaSaNoVa_G said:
let it rain !!! i mean all England A are looking to do is get our players tired before
the 1st test.. reason why Inzi has got Farhat and Butt bowling ...
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very clever ploy by Inzi as well not to play into their hands. :14: He knows what they are doing.
 
But i am really disappointed by England A tactics they should have given the chance to themselves to bowl out pakistan its raining and when play will resume that probably will help their bowlers good thinking by inzy though
 
More Injury worries!

Just read this on the BBC website:

Sami had strapping applied to his left knee, another blow for Pakistan who are already without injured duo Shaoib Akhtar and Rana Naved-ul-Hasan and hope Mohammad Asif will overcome an elbow problem.

I hope his injury is not too serious as without him and Asif, we are seriously depleted
 
I was at the ground yesterday, and got the chance to watch Afridi have a net (against Shaid Nazir). From watching him bat for about 20 min what become clear is that he was not timing the ball well, also he had a lot of trouble with the rising ball outside the off stump. On that form I would rather have Razzaq in the side.

I also saw Asif not looking at all confortable with his right arm. Bob and him had a long chat and throught out the conversation he was bending and straightening his arm with a painful look on his face.
 
Well Hassan as far as Razzaq is concerned for sure h will play either Afridi plays or not.The place up for grabs is between Afridi and Faisal as faisal batted so well yesterday that diminishes Afridi's chances.Having said all that i am pretty much sure that if Asif didnt made it for the 1st test Afridi will be in the side just because of his bowling edge over Faisal Iqbal so my playing elevan is going to be

1.Imran Farhat.

2.Shoaib Malik.

3.Younis Khan.

4.Inzimam-Ul-Haq.

5.Mohammad Yousaf.

6.Shahid Afridi.

7.Abdul Razzaq.

8.Kamran Akmal.

9.Mohammad Sami.

10.Umar Gul.

11.Danish Kaneria.


And if Sami is also unfit i think i must be packing my luggage to go and join the team as they will need me badly
 
Afridi_Fan, I didnt want to be the bearer of bad news, especially when Sami was looking quite good in Canterbury.....

Actually I think I may need a hug as we may not have any bowlers to actually have a PACE ATTACK!
 
England A finally declare

Pakistan chase 505 to win - or more realistically bat out the day.
 
Well Re-Verse I guess then Pakistan needs me and if you can bowl reverse swing you can join me :P
 
10/0 both batsmen have already hit one four each i.e. Farhat and Butt
 
This is probably the last chance for these 2 to claim the place along side with Malik for the opening test
 
444444444444 more to Farhat.........19/0.........Farhat 14*...Butt 5*
 
Farhat has hit two consecutive fours off Bresnan. Moves onto 14 from just 19 balls with three boundaries to his name.

Pakistan 19/0 in 5 overs

Sallu 5* Farhat 14*
 
Another boundary to Sallu, takes him to 16 from 21 balls. 6 boundaries so far from just 7.2 overs. Good going by the openers

Pakistan 30/0 in 7.2 overs

Sallu 16* Farhat 14*
 
Sallu looking dangerous. Another boundary to him, this time off Dalrymple's 11th ball.

Pakistan 35/0 in 8.5 overs

Sallu 21* Farhat 14*
 
Farhat is taking his time here. 16 from 33 balls, and taking just a single from the last over (bowled by Broad).
 
At Tea

Farhat 21* in 43 Balls with 4 fours

Butt 27* in 42 Balls with 5 fours

Pakistan 51/0 in 14 Overs with 3.64 runs per over
 
64 for 0

Butt not out 31
Farhat not out 30
 
I bet if Afridi were playing he would have gone for the target for him nothing is impossible and i love his this attitude
 
and i guess yousaf will get some bouncers as Key has called back Broad
 
What is meant by retired out?

The terms I have heard before are "retired hurt" or just "retired", and it would not count as a wicket. Does it mean that Farhat has declared himself out and hence the score line 91/1???
 
pacman said:
What is meant by retired out?

The terms I have heard before are "retired hurt" or just "retired", and it would not count as a wicket. Does it mean that Farhat has declared himself out and hence the score line 91/1???
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unfortunately i believe you are correct
i think it may be due to thed fact these are official first-class games and not practice matches as such
 
prepare said:
unfortunately i believe you are correct
i think it may be due to thed fact these are official first-class games and not practice matches as such
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I still don't get it. In internationalal matches, I have seen batsmen retire or get hurt and then retire. In those matches I have seen the batsman come back, if it was needed. The term "retired out" is new to me,... why would they not just declare him as retired, and then the wicket column would read 0 instead of 1.
 
Agree with you prepare but I guess Inzi doesnt want thgis either he would have done that
 
50 to butt

Butt 50* in 89 balls with 7 fours

Yousaf 6* in 19 balls with one four

103/1
 
Inzi comes out to bat Butt is retired on 50 and inzy has got a run to his name
 
2 fours to yousaf he moves into double figures 15* inzy's strike rate dropped from 100 to 50 2 off 4 balls
 
pacman said:
I still don't get it. In internationalal matches, I have seen batsmen retire or get hurt and then retire. In those matches I have seen the batsman come back, if it was needed. The term "retired out" is new to me,... why would they not just declare him as retired, and then the wicket column would read 0 instead of 1.
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i think the batsmen walked to give other batsmen practice, injury is different and yes what you are saying does happen but i think they have to agree before the match that someone can retire
 
prepare said:
i think the batsmen walked to give other batsmen practice, injury is different and yes what you are saying does happen but i think they have to agree before the match that someone can retire
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yes they did walk..which is why they lost 2 wickets - if u walk u lose ur chance to play in he innings again.
 
UsmanCHADDA said:
Farhat is taking his time here. 16 from 33 balls, and taking just a single from the last over (bowled by Broad).
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wow Farhat was on 16 from 33?

and he finished with 44 off 54, top knock! 34 off the 44 runs coming in boundaries.

Farhat is in fine form!! long may it continue!

also good to see moyo and inzi getting stuck in, see guys this match aint been that bad after all, lot of positives :)
 
i cant believe the selectors chose jones over read after 150 against us,

im not complaing id rather be up against jones as he wont score much and he'll drop many catches, which is good for us.
 
So Pakistan have been thumped by a second string batting lineup and bowled out by what is essentially a bowling attack made up of second and third choice players, given that some of our second string attack will be playing in the real test match on Thursday. Not a great start to the tour. However, what worries me as an England fan is that when a good side has a rubbish practice game they usually come good later on.
 
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Sid100 said:
i cant believe the selectors chose jones over read after 150 against us,

im not complaing id rather be up against jones as he wont score much and he'll drop many catches, which is good for us.
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In other news, Christopher Read turned water into wine today but was still told in a private word with Duncan Fletcher that he needs to keep improving and working hard.
 
What was England A' strategy?

What was England A's strategy in this game? They played for more than 2 days and then bowled out Pakistan in about 2 sessions. They could have enforced the follow on and put major pressure on Pakistan. They could have won. Pressure could have gotten to Pakistan. Had Pakistan lost, it would have been a major boost for the England team.

Instead they were too worried about giving Pakistan any batting practice,... or were they? They bat 1 session on day 4, and then the team is announced for the 1st Test. Ian Bell being the only new addision to the side, so England A declare. Now this confuses me, it seemed like they were hell bent on not giving Pakistan any batting practice. So Butt, Farhat, Yousuf and Inzi got some practice after all. But not against their front line bowlers, just as Cook and Bell didn't get any practice against our frontline bowlers. What have they got out this game?

It was neither here or there. If the strategy was to make Pakistan foil, then why did they declare? Why not keep batting? Did they think that they could win in 2 sessions as they bowled them out in 2 yesterday? If they wanted to win they should have declared late on day 2 or on the morning of day 3. And they should also have enforced the follow on. By that they had the best possible chance to beat Pakistan and give them some psychological scars ahead of the first test. But they have missed that oppertunity.

Comments?
 
Whippy squash said:
So Pakistan have been thumped by a second string batting lineup and bowled out by what is essentially a third string bowling attack, given that a lot of our second string attack will be playing in the real test match on Thursday. Not a great start to the tour. However, what worries me as an England fan is that when a good side has a rubbish practice game they usually come good later on.
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lol it's not as bad as ur making it out to be. we did well v leic/scot and theres lots of positives from this game. 'not a great start to the tour'...nonsense
 
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