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Trump raises India tariffs to 50% over Russian oil purchases [Update@post#255]

Hindudva Bhakts must be puzzled to who to support here as they loved their Dooonaal Trump for his Muslim ban, his parties usual islamophobic rhetorics and his blind Nazi Israel's genocide support of Palestinians.

Putting personal biases aside, India has taken to an extent right stance by buying Russian oil and isn't willing to sell it's people like our Generals to the worst of the lot that is American Zionist Politicians. For the better of the world alliance with Russia China needs to strengthen among Asian countries instead of bending over backwards for America and Nato. White supremacy and West is always right narrative needs to end and it's barbaric constant war mongering could only end if other countries take the economic and technological lead.

If not for nonsensical hatefilled Hindudva extremists, Pakistan and India both could have gained a lot more by making alliance with Asian giants and keeping peace and harmony instead of inflicting Hindudva masses with deep hatred for Muslims and Pakistan. Our wars should have always been against corruption, poverty and hunger instead of borders.
 
Oh you won’t find me arguing against how Pakistan’s elites are in USA pockets. Most of Pakistanis know that, but we don’t live in a delusion that we can stand up to USA.

Indians on other hand are in this illusion that thinks that USA doesn’t control most of their country. They were used for as long as possible against China. Now that they served their purpose, US is putting it back to its position.

Honestly, just look at the way Trump or for that matter most of west sees Indians. After all this worship of GDP, development, technology, Trump and Modi bromance and in few days the statements clearly sees India and Pakistan at same level.

It burns Indians hearing this but this is a fact. You have served your purpose of cheap labor, now that purpose can be accomplished by philipines, Indonesians or Vietnamese.
Weird how Philippines Indonesia Vietnam weren’t labourers before.
Now they are, good try good luck having your Establishment being called to US every month.
 
Nothing will impact on India.....

Turkey are also imported Russian oils, but no high tarrifs on Turkey as Turkey is largest buyer of US arms n ammunition. Washington wants India to buy arms n ammunition from them only.

Brazil not imported Russian oil but US slapped 50% on them.

Trump will realised what he done after few months when US citizens erupts on the streets due to inflation
 
Trump accused India of fuelling the war machine.

India has caused damage in many countries. Bangladesh they support a dictator, support Taliban in Afghanistan, support Baloch terrorists, murder people all over the West and now responsible for deaths of poor Ukranians.

Modi is worse than Bashar or Sadam. They too got similar rigged approval ratings. Regime change is a must.

Trump not said that .... Trump said india buys Russian oils and Russia gets money to kill innocent Ukrainian.....

If Trump is really creating about innocent lives then where he was when Indian government opposed and protested over Ukraine's supply of uranium to Pakistan which was a threat to millions of innocent Indians
 
I’m not a fan of Trump and his overall tariff scheme. Nor do I have ill will against India. But I actually support this. Too many lives have been lost in the Ukraine war, and too much money wasted on military. I think stronger efforts to try to stop Russia from continuing this war is necessary. You can’t win a war through force or invasion as no one will go into Russia for fear of nuclear threat, and Russia will continue to bomb Ukrainian territory from afar. Russia needs to be economically hurt that they can not afford to continue the war. And ideally their allies hurt economically by supporting Russia that they will urge a ceasefire too.

Instead we’ve had countries profit off the war buying Russian oil and other goods at lower prices. Keeping Russia afloat and reducing the urgency of other countries to try and convince Russia to end the war. I don’t even blame countries like India choosing to buy oil from Russia, they are not involved in the Russia Ukraine conflict. But the west who are actually involved and sending money, people dying, I don’t know why all measures by the west to stop the war haven’t been tried such as cutting cheap oil sales from Russia to other countries.
 
I’m not a fan of Trump and his overall tariff scheme. Nor do I have ill will against India. But I actually support this. Too many lives have been lost in the Ukraine war, and too much money wasted on military. I think stronger efforts to try to stop Russia from continuing this war is necessary. You can’t win a war through force or invasion as no one will go into Russia for fear of nuclear threat, and Russia will continue to bomb Ukrainian territory from afar. Russia needs to be economically hurt that they can not afford to continue the war. And ideally their allies hurt economically by supporting Russia that they will urge a ceasefire too.

Instead we’ve had countries profit off the war buying Russian oil and other goods at lower prices. Keeping Russia afloat and reducing the urgency of other countries to try and convince Russia to end the war. I don’t even blame countries like India choosing to buy oil from Russia, they are not involved in the Russia Ukraine conflict. But the west who are actually involved and sending money, people dying, I don’t know why all measures by the west to stop the war haven’t been tried such as cutting cheap oil sales from Russia to other countries.
True but the moment EU and US stop trading with Russia they will be bankrupt.
Just like climate control the expectation is from developing countries to get their act together.
 

I remember how the Indians supported this vermin -sen Graham- when he was pushing USA to assist Israel. Niki Haley was signing the bombs that were dropped on Palestine.

Indians were lining up to work in Israel. Where are the cheerleaders now ? You all worshipped these immoral people when they showed anti Muslim stance. It’s funny how the pendulum swings.
 
Modi after being humiliated by Pakistan in combat is now being seen for what he really is by rest of the world, a joker who made it to the top using angry man syndrome. No leader is taking him serious anymore, from Cambodia to USA.

It is a sad end. We invited him to lay down the sword and be level headed, he didn’t listen. Had to put him in the dirt and now everyone is walking over him.
 
Will not be surprised by a US CIA sponsored regime change operation in New Delhi where the Congress party dethrones the BJP and Rahul Gandhi is the next Indian prime minister who agrees to cede to US demands.
 
100% agreed, impossible for Modi to complete his term now , even though it’s in Pak interest if Modi continues and self sabotage India even more.
Bharat isn't a cowardly clown nation that bends over for America fearing regime change.

Bharat's ghairat and bravery needs to be studied and celebrated by rest of the South Asian nations.
 
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Every country have a right to do trade in favor of them..... India will not buy Russian oil if US provides us Saudi oil @ russian rate. India bought Russian oil as per international trade regulations, not violated it.

China, Turkey also bought Russian oil, even US himself bought Uranium from Russia ... now US impose section/tarrifs on themselves?
 
Your guys are being ordered by them hahaha. You will shamelessly toe the line as brother BVB put it.
No we don’t take orders from the white house. Bvb cN say whatever he wants doesn’t mean jack. Russian oul will keep flowing to India American agriproducts won’t get into India. Dolund cantesr his hair out but thats the reality in his stupid ego he has lost the is MIC THE WORLDS LARGEST ARMS Mrket
 
Bharat isn't a cowardly clown nation that bends over for America fearing regime change.

Bharat's ghairat and bravery needs to be studied and celebrated by rest of the South Asian nations.
The only thing worth studying is the mindset of andhbhakts who were busy doing Bharatnatyam and Kuchipudi when China stood its ground against US tariffs. Today, the same andhbhakts are preaching about ghairat and bravery after America slapped a 50% tariff on India. These are the same people who once worshipped Trump, practically performing pooja in his name, and now suddenly oppose him. What a comical bunch. :yk

Even the mastermind behind 'Abki baar, Trump sarkar' deserves a case study and an Oscar. Odds are, if Trump lowers the tariffs again, these andhbhakts will be back to lighting agarbattis in front of his statues. Such sore losers. :misbah :inti
 
True but the moment EU and US stop trading with Russia they will be bankrupt.
Just like climate control the expectation is from developing countries to get their act together.
Trade between eu and Russia and us and Russia has already dropped massively. I think it’s something like around 80% I heard. A lot of remaining trade is stuff like food and agriculture which shouldn’t be reduced drastically as it could lead to food problems. Yes USA and eu could potentially do more but I don’t know how much realistically they can do.

Some other countries on the other hand have increased their trade with Russia taking advantage of the situation for instance buying cheaper oil. Russia has devastated economically early in the war but has slowly recovered and maintained due to relying on trade to other nations. If there were tariffs on countries buying Russian oil right at the start, maybe this war would have ended as soon as it began. I think the us government at the time was scared to do this for fear of crashing the global markets and of course losing money themselves.

The way that Trump has gone crazy with tariffs and somehow hasn’t significantly crashed the world market, make me sad that maybe these tactics should have been used for better reasons in the Ukraine war. I guess it’s the power of hindsight, and maybe Russian oil tariffs would have caused a global crash at the time. But how things are now it feels just a small escalation of trumps existing tariff war. So I think it’s a good decision.
 
You fall in this trap of usa they will keep asking for more using these tactics lookat our neighbour
Usa is a very unreliable ally so to appease them we can’t leave russia
On the contrary, I'm pretty pragmatic about this. In the current environment, neither USA nor Russia is a reliable partner. For better or worse, we're back to the pre-first world war era of purely transactional relationships, shifting alliances and protective nationalism.

We don't want Trump as an ally - he wouldn't be stable anyway. We need the US as a trading partner. If that means we need to buy more expensive oil for a month or two till Trump moves on to his next pet peeve, I think we should be perfectly happy to do it. Putin's pragmatic enough to know that we'll buy plenty of stuff from him again when the heat's off and the tantrum's done.

We're not strong enough yet to stand on principle on such matters especially when the principle itself is flimsy.
 
India pauses 3.6 billion dollars P-81 poseidon deal after Trump's tarrif blow

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Interesting move.

Not sure what the need is to antagonize Trump. It seems like an easy thing to get him back on board, but Modi is worried how it will play out with his audience.

But I'll stock up on popcorn to see what happens next.
 
Trumpachayan clearly rattled by India's rejection of the F35 offer...

But no tariffs on Indian Pharmaceuticals though, makes sense otherwise plenty of Americans will die or stay sick 😇
 
Right now, Trump’s approach to India feels less like foreign policy and more like a desperate guy blowing up a hot girl’s DMs and getting ghosted every time:

“Hey.”
“Hi.”
“Hey.”
“Hello?”
“What’s up?”
“F-35s?”
“You’re looking beautiful today.”
“Gorgeous.”
“Hi again.”
“If you don’t wanna talk, just block me.”
“Why are you ignoring me?”
“If you don’t respond, I’ll have to impose tariffs.”
“Hey.”
“Still looking amazing.”
“Fine. 25% tariffs.”
“Hey.”
“Stunning as always.”
“We should meet sometime.”
“Still ignoring me?”
“Block me if you’re just gonna ghost.”
“Hey.”
“Okay, 50% tariffs now.”
“Hey.”
“Nobel nomination? Maybe?”
“Hello?”
“Still waiting…”
“Alright, 100% tariffs.”
“Hey.”
“Looking cute as always.”
“I’m going to Pakistan if you keep ignoring me.”
“Wanna buy some American oil?”
“Hey dear.”
“You’re a total beauty.”

Foreign policy or fragile ego with WiFi? 🤣

Modi ji please end his mystery by replying to him once fgfs
 
We are in the Dance of the Dragons phase of Geopolitics.

BRICS nations aren’t showing any signs of weakness.

So far it’s Europe, Middle Eastern, Asian nations except India & China which have completely folded.
 
On the contrary, I'm pretty pragmatic about this. In the current environment, neither USA nor Russia is a reliable partner. For better or worse, we're back to the pre-first world war era of purely transactional relationships, shifting alliances and protective nationalism.

We don't want Trump as an ally - he wouldn't be stable anyway. We need the US as a trading partner. If that means we need to buy more expensive oil for a month or two till Trump moves on to his next pet peeve, I think we should be perfectly happy to do it. Putin's pragmatic enough to know that we'll buy plenty of stuff from him again when the heat's off and the tantrum's done.

We're not strong enough yet to stand on principle on such matters especially when the principle itself is flimsy.

This performative urge to showcase strategic superiority for domestic applause does India no favors. India need to appease Trump, he is a temporary storm. He’ll be gone soon, likely leaving the Republican Party in shambles. The odds favor a Democrat taking over, and historically, Democratic administrations have been more sympathetic toward India anyway.

What we’re seeing is an ego clash, not a strategy. India doesn’t possess strategic superiority, only the US, Russia, and China can claim that. A pragmatic Indian would be angling for a deal, maximizing gains from a volatile situation. But the nationalist Indian? busy beating 56 inch chest for an audience at home. That bravado has humiliated India on the global stage more than once, and it looks like history might be on repeat.
 
Brazil, China, India all have not buckled to this tariffs threat infact it's bringing these nations closer.

Not sure what would pak think on modi's visit to China, first in 7 years
 
This performative urge to showcase strategic superiority for domestic applause does India no favors. India need to appease Trump, he is a temporary storm. He’ll be gone soon, likely leaving the Republican Party in shambles. The odds favor a Democrat taking over, and historically, Democratic administrations have been more sympathetic toward India anyway.

What we’re seeing is an ego clash, not a strategy. India doesn’t possess strategic superiority, only the US, Russia, and China can claim that. A pragmatic Indian would be angling for a deal, maximizing gains from a volatile situation. But the nationalist Indian? busy beating 56 inch chest for an audience at home. That bravado has humiliated India on the global stage more than once, and it looks like history might be on repeat.
If Trump and Putin come to an agreement next week then this will blow over for India.

Next week is important. If Putin messes Trump around he could take it out on India.

I am truly a peaceful person at heart but in this instance for the common good we need no ceasefire in Ukraine next week, so that the Indian menace is thwarted.
 
Lets be honest, Amreeka and their side kicks didnt expect India to be this defiant.

China’s plan seems to be unfolding flawlessly. First, let Pakistan knock Indian jets out of the sky, humiliating India. Then, let Trump insert himself into the chaos, further complicating India’s position. And now, India, bruised and boxed in, finds itself inching toward Beijing, the very power it once tried to counterbalance. Strategic checkmate, the Chinese way.
 
Yes let's look at actions.

One country kills the same terrorist allies under Musharraf
Runs to papa after getting screwed in Kargil
Let's anyone come and drone their country
Begs for imf loans
Does nothing when VIP terrorist guest is killed near their primary military HQ
Thanks for saving in op Sindoor again
Calls themselves the uncalled protector of Muslims but nominates for noble prize as he bombs Muslims..

These are the actions or words from one country

Other country... Calls out bs claims
Doesn't accept trading diktats .goes on buying oil and stands beside an ally
Accepts tarrifs
And is not stupid enough to publicly pick up a fight so that things can be resolved behind closed doors.

You tell me which country will you be proud of


All I'm reading here is the usual:

Pakistan, Pakistan, blah blah blah...Pakistan.

This sort of short sightedness is what has disconnected India from it's roots in the first place.
 
Werent Indians clashing with China and wanting to take over Chinese manufacturing and encouraging boycott etc?

Trump really made the Indians spin out of control here.

That comment is made by Chinese representative not Indian. India is not budging and continue to buy Russian oils. I know it is hurting you as you were expecting Imran Khan style govt change courtesy USA but Modi & India is not IK or Pakistan. Trump is dealing with someone very dheet. Lets see how far he can go.

Btw, have you seen this thread or twitter in general regarding this news? Most Indians are laughing and making memes. Its only Pakistanis and Jaychands that are taking this tariff seriously. 29th August is a long way away....Trump will change his mind 29 times before that.
 
That comment is made by Chinese representative not Indian. India is not budging and continue to buy Russian oils. I know it is hurting you as you were expecting Imran Khan style govt change courtesy USA but Modi & India is not IK or Pakistan. Trump is dealing with someone very dheet. Lets see how far he can go.

Btw, have you seen this thread or twitter in general regarding this news? Most Indians are laughing and making memes. Its only Pakistanis and Jaychands that are taking this tariff seriously. 29th August is a long way away....Trump will change his mind 29 times before that.
Einstein, everyone knows that, but the andhbhakts are lost now. First they worshipped Trump, now they are foaming at the mouth against him. :virat1

Just wait till he lowers the tariffs, they will be back at his feet in no time. Clowns in a circus of their own making. :yk :inti
 
@DeadlyVenom @Bhaag Viru Bhaag

If Trump is truly angry at Modi and making it personal then the next step would be for the US would be to bring back sanctions on Modi due to Gujarat pogroms against Muslims of India.

US is no friend of Muslims but it is something in their arsenal against Modi.

Next steps of the US Government will dictate whether this is getting deescalated, escalated or getting personal.

Lets see where this goes.​
 
Nothing personal brother, but @Bhaijaan did warn me about your "likings" in a thread before, and I don't want any of that.:yk
Did he brag about his ex again? Careful, once you enroll in his trolling masterclass, there is no coming back. With 69k posts, his retirement is near, and who better to take over the clown throne than you? :yk :inti
 
India’s tariffs are high too , was seeing agriculture and what a joke, no wonder chocolate is terrible.
@Red-Indian is right Biden was pampering GOI.

Do the reforms and compete globally.
 
@DeadlyVenom @Bhaag Viru Bhaag

If Trump is truly angry at Modi and making it personal then the next step would be for the US would be to bring back sanctions on Modi due to Gujarat pogroms against Muslims of India.

US is no friend of Muslims but it is something in their arsenal against Modi.

Next steps of the US Government will dictate whether this is getting deescalated, escalated or getting personal.

Lets see where this goes.​
I think this would be a step too far and unlikely to happen. Trump regime new about the previous ban and the gujrat stuff is not new. So it will make trump himself look bad for calling him a great guy and a "killer"

They will focus on trade only.
 
India’s tariffs are high too , was seeing agriculture and what a joke, no wonder chocolate is terrible.
@Red-Indian is right Biden was pampering GOI.

Do the reforms and compete globally.
Yes I think this may be another inflexion point. Our first big set of major reforms was also under duress - humiliation at going with a begging bowl to the IMF and pledging gold. It turned out for the best though.

There is no doubt that opening up agriculture especially wheat is going to be painful - both socially and politically... potentially losing BJP a couple of state elections but it has to be done sooner or later if we're going to modernise the sector.
 
Einstein, everyone knows that, but the andhbhakts are lost now. First they worshipped Trump, now they are foaming at the mouth against him. :virat1

Just wait till he lowers the tariffs, they will be back at his feet in no time. Clowns in a circus of their own making. :yk :inti

Brother, same can be said about you lot also na? You guys hate Trump for his overall stance towards Muslims and Palestine but now supporting him only because he is speaking against India. So we all are hypocrites...no need to take a high morale ground here.

Trump was supported because prior to elections because he was very appreciative of India. He even condemned the treatment of Hindus in Bangladesh. So we all praised him. Now he is putting unjust Tariff on us, we are rightfully criticizing him. So why would that make us clown?
 
Brother, same can be said about you lot also na? You guys hate Trump for his overall stance towards Muslims and Palestine but now supporting him only because he is speaking against India. So we all are hypocrites...no need to take a high morale ground here.

Trump was supported because prior to elections because he was very appreciative of India. He even condemned the treatment of Hindus in Bangladesh. So we all praised him. Now he is putting unjust Tariff on us, we are rightfully criticizing him. So why would that make us clown?
That's the difference, Einstein. I neither supported Trump back then, nor supporting him now. I am laughing at andhbhakhts and exposing their hypocrisy. Not a single post of mine supporting Trump here or in the other thread. But you guys were doing Kuchipudi in the other Trump thread. Shall I share more stuff from that thread here? :yk :inti
 
That's the difference, Einstein. I neither supported Trump back then, nor supporting him now. I am laughing at andhbhakhts and exposing their hypocrisy. Not a single post of mine supporting Trump here or in the other thread. But you guys were doing Kuchipudi in the other Trump thread. Shall I share more stuff from that thread here? :yk :inti

Which thread? My focus was totally in cricket section for last few weeks. So dont think I have made many posts on Trump. However, now I am 100% dedicated in Time Pass. Bad news for some who cant string a sentence without chatGPT (not you)

:qdkcheeky
 
Says the guy who practically lights 'agarbatti' for Modi and Yogi every morning. :yk :inti

LOL Modi is a politician whom I support fir his right wing ideology. Just like I support Trump, Farage etc. How that makes it religious? Since when you started religion on Modi?

:murali
 
Which thread? My focus was totally in cricket section for last few weeks. So dont think I have made many posts on Trump. However, now I am 100% dedicated in Time Pass. Bad news for some who cant string a sentence without chatGPT (not you)

:qdkcheeky
This thread: :kp :inti

 
This thread: :kp :inti


I will go through it but hardly many posts will be from me. Since my focus was on getting WCL match cancelled

:inti :kp
 
All I'm reading here is the usual:

Pakistan, Pakistan, blah blah blah...Pakistan.

This sort of short sightedness is what has disconnected India from it's roots in the first place.
What is the root? We are pointing out your lack of self awareness is saying modi has surrendered..tarrifs are a failure of modi etc. if you instead focused the discussion on how the tarrifs are negatively impacting India and why it is bad for India or how Pakistan can take advantage of it..then the discussion would be different.

The only reason we bring paksitanis abject surrender since last 20 years in discussion is because you all are pointing to standing up to us and not giving into unjust demands as something that is bad.

Keep the discussion focused on how the relationship has deteriorated or what India can do or how India is screwed and we won't bring Pakistan into the discussion.
 
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I respect that India asserts its national interests in the face of US pressure by buying Russian oil, and wish Pakistan would act similarly and implements the gas deal with Iran.

However what deserves no respect whatsoever was the nauseating sycophancy towards Trump in his first term which has totally backfired.
 
Oh please India, stay defiant. Keep buying Russian oil. Dont bow down. USA should stay in its aukat and should not dictate what Indians should do.

50% Tariff is nothing, try 100% and these brave aryans will only get stronger. Sanction them, cause chaos, support the opposition, pull out investments, freeze the assets, have UN randomly start investigating gujrat riots based on new evidence… try all the tricks that US uses but India will only get stronger.

lol India has only been on the good side of USA. You don’t want to be on the other side. It would be easier to break India then a spiders web.
 
I respect that India asserts its national interests in the face of US pressure by buying Russian oil, and wish Pakistan would act similarly and implements the gas deal with Iran.

However what deserves no respect whatsoever was the nauseating sycophancy towards Trump in his first term which has totally backfired.
And the hypocrisy of accusing Pakistanis of not caring about the Uighur Muslims because of the relations with China, when the same can be said of buying Russian oil at the expense of the Ukrainians.

I think we can all agree that we can criticise our Government’s foreign policies.
 
Deserved Chittar for Modi. And in truth its been long time coming.

India has really profited from the Ukraine war by acting as a middleman for the Russians and taking a cut for selling refined crude. The surprise is that why has the USA tolerated this for so long, and the blame goes on Sleepy Joe and the cabal around him.

The irony in Modi having to run to China now..... How the tables have turned from just a few months ago :LOL:
 
Looking at Trump's current Avatar, countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, will support Trump for Noble peace prize
 
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