BreadPakoda
First Class Captain
- Joined
- Feb 8, 2018
- Runs
- 6,066
Jus gv the credit were its due
Why using so many filter to judge youngster
So we can't even analyse the batting properly, eh?
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Jus gv the credit were its due
Why using so many filter to judge youngster
So we can't even analyse the batting properly, eh?
Can you please tag me in one post instead of three different ones next time?
And he had a pretty average IPL, not good enough to warrant him a permanent spot in the team even.
Looked pretty average in his T20I games cosnidering his SR is all he is known for.
If he's the best talent y'all have had in years then apka tou Khuda he Hafiz Hai Bhai.
Why don’t you apply that filter to players like Dhoni, Manish, Keder, Rahane in ODI, Rohit in Test,etc.
lets not get ahead of ourselves. ITs not the best attack in the world. Its the best attack in the IPL and one of international standard. But best attack in the world is stretching it. Overall, the Indian team has a better bowling than SRH.
Finally! Plays a responsible innings and finishes the job for his team at the international level with an unbeaten 64 of 62 balls. That India A won the series as a result is the icing on the cake
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...-india-a-final-england-a-team-tri-series-2018.
The talent was never in question but the temperament definitely was. Hopefully he can build up on this innings and replace the incumbent WK after the next WC. With him we have a like to like replacement of the MSD of yore with a nice left handed variety as a bonus!
What is this international level that you speak of? Playing FC player from another country does not make it international level. It's still FC level, just from another country.
He's faced better bowlers in IPL and bested them. Bailed his team out consistently in IPL from situations far more dire than this match. He's also scored stupendously long innings in FC cricket so his temperament shouldn't have been in doubt from the first place.
In 2019 India will field the most devastating ODI batting line up ever seen :-
Sharma
Dhawan
Rahul
Kohli
Pant
Pandya
Dhoni
Well...explain to me then why he doesn't have a single eye catching performance at the top most level. He puts too much pressure on himself trying to live up to his reputation and that puts his timing and subsequently his game awry.
Performing in the IPL and performing abroad are different - although pitches have flattened out all over the world, it is still not the same. Yes IPL has international bowlers who might be better than List A bowlers, but then Pant should have then thrashed lesser quality bowlers when he last played against International opposition by your logic.
So yes it is not a technical issue but more of a mental issue for Pant with respect to catering to International opposition and I am pretty sure he would have learnt more about approaching an international game on this tour from a mental approach perspective.
And playing your domestic FC team is different from an international FC team - and List A games are just one level below international games right?
Maybe because he hasn't had enough opportunities and he is only 20 years old? The guy has hit India's fastest T20 100, scored more than a 1000 T20 runs, smashed the best IPL bowlers everywhere- all in last 6 months. Why does he not deserve to play even T20s when other teams are giving weightage to IPL prformance for their team selection?
Look at his first class record , average of 50+ with a strike rate of nearly 100, add in all the exploits in T20 cricket - compare to any other 20 year old and you would know why he is rated so highly. To add, those are his performance only with the bat, that he's a regular keeper for his teams should mean him being given as many chances to succeed as he can get.
But here is not even getting picked for India A squad for unofficial tests, guy being picked ahead of him is someone with a FC average of 36!
Maybe because he hasn't had enough opportunities and he is only 20 years old? The guy has hit India's fastest T20 100, scored more than a 1000 T20 runs, smashed the best IPL bowlers everywhere- all in last 6 months. Why does he not deserve to play even T20s when other teams are giving weightage to IPL prformance for their team selection?
Look at his first class record , average of 50+ with a strike rate of nearly 100, add in all the exploits in T20 cricket - compare to any other 20 year old and you would know why he is rated so highly. To add, those are his performance only with the bat, that he's a regular keeper for his teams should mean him being given as many chances to succeed as he can get.
But here is not even getting picked for India A squad for unofficial tests, guy being picked ahead of him is someone with a FC average of 36!
He was indeed the first choice T20 WK in the Nidahas cup and DK came in after he did not grab his chances. So it is not the case that he is not getting opportunities but he has not made it count thus far. That is not a big concern, he has age on his side.
Him being not selected for T20s is a tad unfair I agree, but with the WC just a year away and with Pant not having a realistic chance to make it the squad, I guess the line of thinking is to give chances to the squad which most likely is going to make the cut.
Make no mistake, after the next WC he is going to be in for the long haul. Atleast for the shorter formats. He would definitely groomed for the longer formats as well behind Saha or DK.
I thought Pant is in the IND A squad for the FC matches...is he not?
He was indeed the first choice T20 WK in the Nidahas cup and DK came in after he did not grab his chances. So it is not the case that he is not getting opportunities but he has not made it count thus far. That is not a big concern, he has age on his side.
Him being not selected for T20s is a tad unfair I agree, but with the WC just a year away and with Pant not having a realistic chance to make it the squad, I guess the line of thinking is to give chances to the squad which most likely is going to make the cut.
Make no mistake, after the next WC he is going to be in for the long haul. Atleast for the shorter formats. He would definitely groomed for the longer formats as well behind Saha or DK.
I thought Pant is in the IND A squad for the FC matches...is he not?
Bharat is playing ahead of Pant in the unofficial test vs WI A. What a ridiculous decision to bench Pant. Guy has better FC average than some of the specialist batsmen in the India A team , yet is being forced to be on bench that too when he's in peak batting form.
Ridiculous!!!!!
Wasting one of the too talents we have currently.
4 matches in T20s spread over an year to a youngster is enough chances? In those matches he did not set the world on fire but his scores were 3*, 38, 23 and 7. He was judged on the basis of his last two matches where he played as a pure batsman!
And no DK was always the keeper for Nidhas Trophy, not Pant.
If English bowlers could bounce Raina out then Pant might get a chance sooner.But I dont think they are pacy enough to do that.Emergence of KLRahul as a fast scoring batsman has pushed risabhs inclusion in Indian team by a year. Either dhoni or raina will be replaced by him . Dhawan Raul kohli rohit followed by dhoni pant pandya will make a strong batting lineup in odi and t20. Then there is iyer shubman and Shaw to follow
Rishabh Pant is living the dream he always cherished after being selected for India’s Test squad. Pant, who has been in England with India A side for quite some time, earned a call to the Test team after a commendable performance in the IPL and steady outings with India A side. Crediting his family and coach Tarek Sinha the 20-year old youngster maintained that focus will be on gaining as much experience as possible.
“It was a great feeling to hear that I had been included in the Indian Test squad. I always wanted to be a part of the Indian Test squad and it was more like a dream come true for me. It was an amazing feeling, not only for me but also for my family and my coach Tarek Sinha sir, who helped me understand the game very early in my life. He has always wanted me to play Test cricket for India and when I got the call, he was very happy and proud and I enjoyed that moment,” Pant said.
Speaking about the differences between limited overs format and the longer version of the game, Pant said,”There isn’t too much difference, it’s mainly got more to do with shot selection. In red ball cricket, with the field placements, you can look around; take your time, because you have five days to play. Whereas in limited overs cricket you have a limited number of balls to play and score.”
“I have so far enjoyed my preparation with red ball cricket. The Duke ball swings a lot when you’re here in England and initially when I started playing here with India A, I realized that the swing will come a lot into play in these conditions,” he explained.
Crediting India A coach Rahul Dravid, he said, “The only thing he always tells me is that you need to be patient about everything, be it on the field or off it. Also, how I need to work harder on my game when it comes to red ball cricket since I’m a positive batsman, but at times you need to play to the situation. See the pace of the game and change your game accordingly. These have been my learning from him wherein he has helped me a lot.”
https://indianexpress.com/article/s...f-the-indian-test-squad-rishabh-pant-5272090/
The second most exciting young batting talent in the world right now after Lokesh Rahul. India truly is the talent powerhouse of cricket as far as batting is concerned.
No. Rishabh Pant is the second most overhyped cricketer in the world right now after Hardik Sobers Pandya.
tbf to Pant, he has averaged 50 in Ranjis.
Not every cricketer can replicate his domestic performances in international cricket too. And I am saying it after watching how he played last time. He looks like a proper tullaybaaz. Will be found out soon. He should definitely not play a single test against England. His best chance was to play against England in T20's because that's the correct format for him.
I guess you are better at judging players skill and potential as compared to Rahul Drvaid.
But then who is Dravid and what does he know about cricket???
https://www.wisden.com/stories/international-cricket/rishabh-pant-temperament-skills-rahul-dravid
Meh another childish argument.
Next time you post your views here I will remind you of so and so player knows more than you and your opinions are trash. You can use this logic on your posts too. People criticise Michael Holding too even though he knows better than you armchair critics.
So if you have anything to say about how Pant is not a tullaybaaz say it otherwise don't waste my time.
Not every cricketer can replicate his domestic performances in international cricket too. And I am saying it after watching how he played last time. He looks like a proper tullaybaaz. Will be found out soon. He should definitely not play a single test against England. His best chance was to play against England in T20's because that's the correct format for him.
Come on let the guy first make a debut, you already termed him a hack.No. Rishabh Pant is the second most overhyped cricketer in the world right now after Hardik Sobers Pandya.
Come on let the guy first make a debut, you already termed him a hack.
He is just 20 years old.
Looks like u already hate him
I was talking about test debut.Wake up. He has already played few matches for India. Go and watch those matches first. Guys who are overhyping him now will be the first ones to cuss him here.
I was talking about test debut.
Lokesh Rahul will be the wicket keeper in this practice match. If he can do a good job behind the stumps it will allow us to select another specialist batsman.
The next big tullaybaaz.
That shot he played is unforgivable.I said it before also after looking at his performance and batting style. He is a tullaybaaz and he should only play T20 cricket for India.
India need Saha back badly .
The next big tullaybaaz.
Should be given a few more games.
Too raw,but clearly has oodles of talent
And pakistanis are naming him Tullaybaaz. Dont know exactly what it means as never heard of this word used on Indian cricket fields but people use it for Afridi here.
Pant is a proper batsman.
Proper batsmen don't play the sort of shot he played a short while ago in a Test match.
England had just moved that fielder there and next ball he hit it straight down his throat.
He is 20yr old playing his 2nd test and can make such a mistake under pressure. Even greats of the game have done that.
Indian selectors need to be patient with him.He should be the backup wicketkeeper for India after Saha returns.Karthik shouldn't be near the side.Pant can play in the side as a batsman.
We are witnessing the birth of the Indian Shahid Afridi, without the hair and bowling talent ofcourse.Thats Afridi and co. Not Pant.
20 year old or 40 year old, it was not a very bright thing to do.
Looks like a risky choice for Tests.
We are witnessing the birth of the Indian Shahid Afridi, without the hair and bowling talent ofcourse.
On the other side Sam playing his first full series he has basically won 2 test matches for England in this series no way England would have won if Sam wasn’t playing
Unfortunately for me? I could care less how many chances you give this hackUnfortunately for you we dont play avg cricketers like Afridi for 300 mstches. So there wont be a Indian Afridi ever.

Sam wont win zilch if this was in India. Pant is yet to play a test in India.
He came under pressure all the time and delivered even if its in England . Rishab was lost
Unfortunately for me? I could care less how many chances you give this hack
Speaking of avg cricketers, a certain Dinesh Karthik has played for how many years now?