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[VIDEOS] Is Mohammad Shami the best ODI bowler at the moment?

The most deceptive bowler ever.

I looked at Shami bhai 7-8 years ago and thought this brother getting retired in a year. But he been bowling like a warhorse tournament after tournament.

His will power must be incredible.

Just refuses to die.
 
The most deceptive bowler ever.

I looked at Shami bhai 7-8 years ago and thought this brother getting retired in a year. But he been bowling like a warhorse tournament after tournament.

His will power must be incredible.

Just refuses to die.
That’s because BCCI pays him for times when he misses IPL as well.
BCCI has managed bowlers way better since 2015.
 
I never felt good about his selection even though i like him a lot. I never support even 70% fit bowler . He is probably 50% now. you have to be 99% fit. He somehow displayed tremendous variations. Glad he proved me wrong.
 
That’s because BCCI pays him for times when he misses IPL as well.
BCCI has managed bowlers way better since 2015.

Whatever Shami has been doing fitness wise must be noted down word to word and passed down generations.

Or is he just a generic freak?
 
Better than Wasim Akram .

Maybe not in par with Starc or McGrath but up there for sure
Wasim won a world cup. If Shami can win it he can eclipse him for sure. Nevertheless his stats are fantastic and it's always in crunch games.
 
The most deceptive bowler ever.

I looked at Shami bhai 7-8 years ago and thought this brother getting retired in a year. But he been bowling like a warhorse tournament after tournament.

His will power must be incredible.

Just refuses to die.
He came onto the scene as a bit of a trundler called Shami Ahmed right?
 
He came onto the scene as a bit of a trundler called Shami Ahmed right?

True.
There was some confusion over his name.

World Cup 2015 was his breakout tournament. He’s been rock solid in every tournament since. Backbone of our strong performance in tournaments in the last decade.
 
He made debut against Pak in 2013. I don't think he was a speedy bowler when he appeared.

He has Harry Potter Philosopher stone and it gives him endless energy and youth it seems.

He was sharp. Close to early 140s.

But in 2015, someone adjusted his run up. That made a big difference to his balance at the delivery point.
 
He made debut against Pak in 2013. I don't think he was a speedy bowler when he appeared.

He has Harry Potter Philosopher stone and it gives him endless energy and youth it seems.
His problem was not pace. His problem was injuries. His availability was unreliabie. Then he developed his own fitness regime. They call it "desi fitness" regime. After that no looking back.
 
Goat of icc tournaments there’s no one who can match him in terms of strike rate and wicket taking abilities. Top 3 bowlers of all time in icc tournaments.
 
From the highlights of last night's game he seems noncommittal when it comes to fielding even off his own bowling. I think he is either not adequately fit, or displaying signs of aging, or very likely very one dimensional - a fast bowler with little else to offer. nevertheless, if a half fit, one dimensional shami is taking wickets like i eat donuts, his legend will exceed my waist measurement. and that is no easy feat.

absolute gem of a bowler. i ll take him in the team, and a dozen donuts please.
 
He is still not physically fully fit and is slightly off his peak pace by 3-5 kmph.

However somehow he is taking wkts. Yesterday his death spell was good.
 
Shami has been brilliant in ICC event... His achievements are on top.
 
Shami has been brilliant on sluggish pitches even though he was half fit.akram thought him to be a gem and heavily promoted Shami. Definitely shami eclipsed waqar, akthar with his impactful performances in the tournaments.
 
There is one and only shami. Nobody can match him.
I will say akram and bumrah are much better. They have that extra gear available for the atg.shamis numbers are awesome and not matches but other two have that nerve wrecking villainous ability to make the opposition and thier fans life pathetic.
 
I never felt good about his selection even though i like him a lot. I never support even 70% fit bowler . He is probably 50% now. you have to be 99% fit. He somehow displayed tremendous variations. Glad he proved me wrong.
What a player
What a player he is
I just don’t want him injured for England series

Easily top3 greatest odi bowlers of all time
Yes ALL TIME
 
Whatever Shami has been doing fitness wise must be noted down word to word and passed down generations.

Or is he just a generic freak?
Both
Genetic freak and top3 greatest odi bowlers of all time and hard worker

Perfect combo

But he can be fitter tbh
 
Goat of icc tournaments there’s no one who can match him in terms of strike rate and wicket taking abilities. Top 3 bowlers of all time in icc tournaments.
He really deserves a title
Hope we win champions trophy for him
 
I will say akram and bumrah are much better. They have that extra gear available for the atg.shamis numbers are awesome and not matches but other two have that nerve wrecking villainous ability to make the opposition and thier fans life pathetic.
I rate shami as top 3 in odi atg
Bumrah top 5

But no issues either way if vice versa
 
Both
Genetic freak and top3 greatest odi bowlers of all time and hard worker

Perfect combo

But he can be fitter tbh

He does a LOT of bowling practice apparently and trusts that more than gym training.

All great fast bowlers say that’s the best thing. Bowl as much as you can. Only way to build and maintain bowling muscle.
 
He does a LOT of bowling practice apparently and trusts that more than gym training.

All great fast bowlers say that’s the best thing. Bowl as much as you can. Only way to build and maintain bowling muscle.
Wonder if booms can benefit from this too
And perhaps the young ins too

Harshit
Prasidh
Kuldeep sen
Umran
Mayank
Himanshu
Yudhvir
Yash thakur

All should emulate him
 
I will say akram and bumrah are much better. They have that extra gear available for the atg.shamis numbers are awesome and not matches but other two have that nerve wrecking villainous ability to make the opposition and thier fans life pathetic.

Akram really isn't in the conversation for WC great bowlers. Of his 5 WC trips, he had one great tourney in 92 where he could be called the bowler of the tournament and had an above average 99 WC( not in top 5 seamers of tournament)

Rest in 87 and 96 he was markedly poor with his final outing in 03 being mediocre as well.

Even Zaheer came to 3 world cups and he was #2-#3 seamer in 2003 and clearly #1 seamer in 2011.

Starc, Shami, Bumrah are all way ahead of Akram in the WC great seamer stakes
 
Akram really isn't in the conversation for WC great bowlers.
Starc, Shami, Bumrah are all way ahead of Akram in the WC great seamer stakes
I was talking about the extra gear to rattle the opposition. There will be a fear factor with akram(batsmen getting harassed before getting out) but with shami its a silent, painless death for batsmen.I may be wrong also due to biasedness for akram.
 
Wonder if booms can benefit from this too
And perhaps the young ins too

Harshit
Prasidh
Kuldeep sen
Umran
Mayank
Himanshu
Yudhvir
Yash thakur

All should emulate him
They are not same quality. Trust me Bumrah and Shami together, I doubt India will have such lethal pair of fast bowlers again with new ball.
 
Mohammed Shami, India's star pacer, has urged the International Cricket Council (ICC) to reconsider the ban on saliva use, focusing on the fact that reverse swing has necessarily been removed since the rule was passed, he said:

"We are trying to reverse the ball, but without saliva, it has become difficult. We have been constantly appealing for saliva to be allowed again. It will make the game more exciting with reverse swing coming into play,"

"I am trying to get my rhythm back and contribute more to the team. It is a big responsibility when you don’t have two frontline pacers, and I have to step up in their absence."

"There is added pressure when you are the main pacer, and the other option is an all-rounder. You have to pick wickets and lead from the front. I am ready to give over 100% in every game,"
 
Mohammed Shami, India's star pacer, has urged the International Cricket Council (ICC) to reconsider the ban on saliva use, focusing on the fact that reverse swing has necessarily been removed since the rule was passed, he said:

"We are trying to reverse the ball, but without saliva, it has become difficult. We have been constantly appealing for saliva to be allowed again. It will make the game more exciting with reverse swing coming into play,"

"I am trying to get my rhythm back and contribute more to the team. It is a big responsibility when you don’t have two frontline pacers, and I have to step up in their absence."

"There is added pressure when you are the main pacer, and the other option is an all-rounder. You have to pick wickets and lead from the front. I am ready to give over 100% in every game,"
Bro would be a completely different beast if he reverses. He can be pretty unplayable.
 
They are not same quality. Trust me Bumrah and Shami together, I doubt India will have such lethal pair of fast bowlers again with new ball.
india will be fine. will be more like a team. even after they retire.
new players will get inspired by shami and bumrah
 
Saliva was banned for COVID reasons right? Now that COVID is controlled I guess they can reinstate that.
 

Following the announcement of India’s limited-overs squads for the Australia tour, Agarkar had revealed that there was no fresh update on Shami’s fitness.​


Veteran Indian pacer Mohammed Shami has taken a dig at chief selector Ajit Agarkar’s comments regarding his fitness, stating that he is fully fit and ready to play for India. The 35-year-old, who has been left out of the ODI and T20I squads for the upcoming Australia tour, questioned the selectors’ communication process while stressing that his participation in Bengal’s Ranji Trophy opener is proof enough of his fitness.

Following the announcement of India’s limited-overs squads for the Australia tour, Agarkar had revealed that there was no fresh update on Shami’s fitness. He mentioned that the pacer hadn’t played much competitive cricket over the past couple of years, apart from brief appearances in the Duleep Trophy and domestic games. However, Shami has been working his way back through domestic cricket after recovering from an Achilles tendon surgery.

The Indian fast bowler, who last represented India in the Champions Trophy 2025 final against New Zealand, has been named in Bengal’s squad for the 2025–26 Ranji Trophy season starting October 15. While Agarkar maintained that selectors were waiting for clarity from the National Cricket Academy (NCA), Shami made it clear that he believes he’s been unfairly sidelined. Speaking at Eden Gardens ahead of Bengal’s Ranji opener against Uttarakhand, Shami directly addressed the issue, saying the communication gap was not from his end.

 
His career is over. They've moved on from him.

Its bizzare, he looked like the best bowler in the world in the 2023 ODI WC. There are times when he has outbowled Jasprit Bhumrah. His real career began under Kohli and he has been an ATG bowler under Kohli's captaincy. And this is how the BCCI has treated him.
 
Its bizzare, he looked like the best bowler in the world in the 2023 ODI WC. There are times when he has outbowled Jasprit Bhumrah. His real career began under Kohli and he has been an ATG bowler under Kohli's captaincy. And this is how the BCCI has treated him.
What do you mean? BCCI have managed him exceptionally carefully.

Shami just had to prove his fitness in domestic and they'd pick him.

He hasn't played Test cricket in 2.5 years. And in that period he has played only 18 ODIs.

Not part of the T20 setup either.

In fact, after the 2023 World Cup, he only played 4 bilaterals + Champions Trophy.

How exactly was BCCI supposed to treat him better ?
 
Its bizzare, he looked like the best bowler in the world in the 2023 ODI WC. There are times when he has outbowled Jasprit Bhumrah. His real career began under Kohli and he has been an ATG bowler under Kohli's captaincy. And this is how the BCCI has treated him.
He is too old and struggles with injuries alot. You can't blame the BCCI for not selecting someone who is not fully fit. Even in the 2023 World Cup he suffered an injury in the final. His knees are shot and he had surgery on his ankle last year. He has been a great bowler for them but it's time to move on.
 
He is too old and struggles with injuries alot. You can't blame the BCCI for not selecting someone who is not fully fit. Even in the 2023 World Cup he suffered an injury in the final. His knees are shot and he had surgery on his ankle last year. He has been a great bowler for them but it's time to move on.
He was looking unfit in champion trophy 2025 , India is looking to build a team for 2027 ODI World Cup and he can't fit Along with Rohit and Kohli. Australia series is farewell series for both Rohit and Kohli.

:kp
 
What do you mean? BCCI have managed him exceptionally carefully.

Shami just had to prove his fitness in domestic and they'd pick him.

He hasn't played Test cricket in 2.5 years. And in that period he has played only 18 ODIs.

Not part of the T20 setup either.

In fact, after the 2023 World Cup, he only played 4 bilaterals + Champions Trophy.

How exactly was BCCI supposed to treat him better ?

18 ODI's is a decent amount of cricket. More than the ODI's Pakistani players have played in this time period. If the BCCI indeed have decided to move on from him, then they should communicate with him and let him know which is what he is complaining about.

BCCI's handling of senior players like Kohli, Rohit, Pujara, Rahane, Ashwin and Shami leaves a lot to be desired. Its like just because BCCI is blessed with endless talented quality players in the system and have replacements, they have decided they can disrespect senior players and just sideline them without giving respect to them for their seniority. These players should have atleast been given a farewell series at home with a message from the BCCI that this is your chance to say goodbye and move on with your own terms.
 
Its bizzare, he looked like the best bowler in the world in the 2023 ODI WC. There are times when he has outbowled Jasprit Bhumrah. His real career began under Kohli and he has been an ATG bowler under Kohli's captaincy. And this is how the BCCI has treated him.
He was at his 20% best in the champions trophy. Still created some impact though. But his fitness has gone to dogs. Remember he wanted to leave the field after his spell and umpires refused it in the CT. That is bad fitness. First and forestmost requirement for a fast bowler is fitness more than skill. If he suddenly breaks down half way through and he can be more harmful to the team.
 
He is too old and struggles with injuries alot. You can't blame the BCCI for not selecting someone who is not fully fit. Even in the 2023 World Cup he suffered an injury in the final. His knees are shot and he had surgery on his ankle last year. He has been a great bowler for them but it's time to move on.
And 35 is only his age on paper. In reality, he's probably 3-4 years older. Even back in 2023 , he used to go off the field after every spell to get work done with the physio etc.

He won't make 2027 and it's important to give his replacements enough matches before the World Cup.
 
18 ODI's is a decent amount of cricket. More than the ODI's Pakistani players have played in this time period. If the BCCI indeed have decided to move on from him, then they should communicate with him and let him know which is what he is complaining about.

BCCI's handling of senior players like Kohli, Rohit, Pujara, Rahane, Ashwin and Shami leaves a lot to be desired. Its like just because BCCI is blessed with endless talented quality players in the system and have replacements, they have decided they can disrespect senior players and just sideline them without giving respect to them for their seniority. These players should have atleast been given a farewell series at home with a message from the BCCI that this is your chance to say goodbye and move on with your own terms.

Those 18 ODIs were primarily Asia Cup 2023, World Cup 2023 and CT 2025.

He didn't play any Test cricket and played only 2 T20Is and that was purely to build his workload for CT.

BCCI basically let him play T20's despite not being part of the team just to get him adequate bowling fitness.


And Agarkar was very clear, Shami should prove his fitness in domestic before consideration.

He has played only 1 Duleep Trophy game.
 
And 35 is only his age on paper. In reality, he's probably 3-4 years older. Even back in 2023 , he used to go off the field after every spell to get work done with the physio etc.

He won't make 2027 and it's important to give his replacements enough matches before the World Cup.
Oh yeah, he is definitely nearing 40. You can tell that just by looking at his face.

Not only that but from what I recall, he was coming off an injury before that tournament too. Because I remember him not playing in the Asia Cup and India resting him for the early part of their campaign too. His 2023 World Cup performance was incredible but I don't think he can replicate anything like that ever again. Even in that tournament, looking back now, it felt alot like an old engine redlining one last time before the parts give out
 
He was looking unfit in champion trophy 2025 , India is looking to build a team for 2027 ODI World Cup and he can't fit Along with Rohit and Kohli. Australia series is farewell series for both Rohit and Kohli.

:kp
I dunno I think Kohli can definitely play till 2027. He has the fitness and the gameplay to still succeed in ODI. Rohit is just getting by on the excuse of 'intent', which is basically just a cover for I don't have the fitness to run between the wickets so I will try to bat at a higher strike-rate. It's an approach that's bound to burn out very soon, especially on pitches where you can't just smash your way out of a situation. Jaiswal should have been opening with Gill long ago.

Shami on the other hand should preserve his body for IPL and retire from international cricket. Because at his age he doesn't have alot of IPL seasons left in him either.
 
He was at his 20% best in the champions trophy. Still created some impact though. But his fitness has gone to dogs. Remember he wanted to leave the field after his spell and umpires refused it in the CT. That is bad fitness. First and forestmost requirement for a fast bowler is fitness more than skill. If he suddenly breaks down half way through and he can be more harmful to the team.
Glad he won it. Would have been a shame to have no ICC trophies.
 
Nobody deserved an ICC title more than him as he was the champion bowler for us. Our batsmen let him down. ALso India did not play him in 2019 semi final
That was a huge mistake and India bowling first let NZ off the hook after the initial spells of Bhuvi and Bumrah. When India had to bring Jadeja in the 11th over in that game, the match was lost there. it was a seaming pitch and India needed 3 fast bowlers + Pandya. I am not saying we would have won but NZ would not have been able to breath easy Shami had come on after the initial spells.
 
Those 18 ODIs were primarily Asia Cup 2023, World Cup 2023 and CT 2025.

He didn't play any Test cricket and played only 2 T20Is and that was purely to build his workload for CT.

BCCI basically let him play T20's despite not being part of the team just to get him adequate bowling fitness.


And Agarkar was very clear, Shami should prove his fitness in domestic before consideration.

He has played only 1 Duleep Trophy game.
Yeah I love Shami and the immaculate seam position but there's no way he was in contention for the tour. His body just can't take it unfortunately.
 

Shami: If I can play Ranji Trophy, I can play 50-overs​

Fast bowler responds to India not selecting him for their white-ball series against Australia in October

Mohammed Shami refuted any doubts about his fitness on the eve of Bengal's first game of the 2025-26 Ranji Trophy, saying he wouldn't be playing four-day cricket if he wasn't feeling right.

Shami last played for India during the 2025 Champions Trophy in March. The team has since gone on a Test tour of England, won the Asia Cup T20Is and swept West Indies 2-0 to kick off the new home season. It was in response to India excluding him from their next assignment - a white-ball tour of Australia starting later this month - that Shami said, "if I can play four-dayers [Ranji Trophy], I can also play 50-overs cricket."

"Selection is not in my hands. If there is a fitness issue, I shouldn't be here playing for Bengal," the fast bowler was quoted as saying by PTI on Tuesday. "I think I do not need to speak on this and create a controversy. If I can play four-dayers [Ranji Trophy], I can also play 50-overs cricket."

Shami, who recently turned 35, has played only nine international games since recovering from ankle and knee injuries.

"About giving an update, it's not my responsibility to give an update or ask for an update," he said. "It's not my job to give updates on my fitness. My job is to go to the NCA [Centre of Excellence in Bengaluru, formerly National Cricket Academy], prepare and play matches. That's their matter who gives them updates or not. It's not my responsibility."

India's chief of selectors Ajit Agarkar explained Shami's absence from Test cricket (his last outing was in June 2023) by saying he hadn't played a lot of first-class matches in the last two-three years. "So, as a performer, we know what he can do. But, he will need to play something," Agarkar said.

Shami was a regular member of the Indian team, with 197 matches across formats since making his debut in 2013. He played a starring role during their run to the ODI World Cup final two years ago and remains hopeful of representing the country again. His recent performances include bowling 30 overs in nine matches in IPL 2025 and then turning up for East Zone in the Duleep Trophy this August.

"Keep fighting, keep playing games. If you perform well, it will benefit you as well," Shami said. "Selection is not in my hands. I can only prepare and play matches. I've no objection... If you don't select me, then I will come here and play for Bengal. I've no issue with it.

"I also don't want to play in pain or make the [Indian] team suffer. I wanted to come back after the operation and make a strong comeback. I am trying to do the same. I am ready to go whenever they [selectors] want me to go."

Shami added he still values domestic cricket highly. "In the old days, Ranji Trophy was a big level for anyone. But today, we have a platform, and you think it's an 'insult' to go back to play junior cricket like Ranji Trophy. I don't think so. You should play four-day cricket."
 
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