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[VIDEOS] "Maybe those difficult moments, will make me stronger in future" : Naseem Shah

And as I was saying, his team mate (Fakhar) says the same;

"Naseem Shah is a very talented bowler, and we say this amongst ourselves that if Naseem can take care of himself just like Shaheen Shah Afridi does, he has a good chance of becoming a superstar because of his talent"

That is the key to have a long and prosperous career. Without top level athlete fitness you cant be a pace bowler who gets 100s of international wickets. Even you learn way faster if you are fit enough to be able to play more cricket.
 
Marooned said:
Well we should be playing 4 pacers here. We shouldn't be so inflexible vs Netherlands now!
These series are meant to experiment, to explore.

The spinners aren't getting much here and more importantly, both spinners are now already part of the team.

Nawaz got a full series vs WI and now we know, he is going to be here. Time to give dahani his chance now.

Nawaz out, Dahani in will be my change for next game.
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Pakistan doesn't really go in with 4 pacers and just the 1 spinner pluss Nawaz hasn't played much himself however I would rest Shadab as he's pretty much garranteed in the first xi.
 
Bowling with fire and purpose - Naseem Shah vs NED - taken 2 wickets so far - great for his confidence.

FabtmOYWIAAKUsL
 
MenInG said:
Bowling with fire and purpose - Naseem Shah vs NED - taken 2 wickets so far - great for his confidence.

FabtmOYWIAAKUsL
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He has 5 wickets for 60 runs so far in his ODI career

Couldn’t have asked for a better start. This is a much better induction to international cricket considering how he was thrown into the deep end in Australia whilst a parent died back home.
 
Rana said:
He has 5 wickets for 60 runs so far in his ODI career

Couldn’t have asked for a better start. This is a much better induction to international cricket considering how he was thrown into the deep end in Australia whilst a parent died back home.
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Is no ball an issue with him?
 
MenInG said:
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Is no ball an issue with him?
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Naseem was torn apart by Kane Williamson and the other Kiwi batsman who scored the massive hundred against Pakistan in the 2nd Test because Naseem could not build any momentum or pressure due to his consistent no balls.

He bowls with an attitude in Tests in which trying to bowl as fast as you can and as close as you can to the batsman in order for him to feel the pace. In Tests he thinks he gets away with it because it’s just a run and that’s that. Now that he has moved into ODI, he seems to be equally careless!

Look at Harris Rauf and how he bowls at least two foot’s length behind the white line in order to avoid overstepping. He hasn’t come through the ranks as a junior bowler but he still has enough game awareness to now how harmful a no ball can be to the momentum of the side in white ball cricket

Tom Cooper of Netherlands should have been out. Naseem’s careless attitude has now allowed him to take the momentum forward from the free hit and is now punishing the bowlers!
 
Impressive first two matches to start his career. Impressive not because of wickets but, the length he was able to hit at consistently good pace and movement he was able to extract.

Really need to get his no ball issue sorted though as its really costly in white ball cricket and across the formats when you take a wicket on a no ball.
 
Really impressive stuff from Naseem he was getting the ball to move off the pitch.He was hitting the right Lengths and being patient.Needs to work on his no ball issue.
 
Impressive start. Really good line and length, solid 90MPH pace generation, and the ball is swinging good. He definitely got one of the most aesthetically pleasing actions.

Wish him a lot of luck, really hope he develops well and become a formidable bowling option for Pakistan.
 
He's slowly beginning to realize his true potential. We saw shades of it when he debuted in Australia but he was way too raw back then.

Changes I've noticed in him in the last 18 months.

1. Decrease in pace
He's not trying to bowl as fast as he can, instead he's also concentrating on other skills. His Average speed in Australia and England test series was 144-145 km/hr(which was faster than any Aussie bowler and even Archer) with the effort ball being 148-149. Recently though he's dropped down. He's more around 140 now with the peak speed around 145.

2. His length has improved day and night. He used to primarily bowl on the shorter side but now he's pitching it up more and more.

3. hes developed the ability to swing the ball occasionally. His dismissal of O'doud in the first ODI was an example of that. The ball ducked in the air significantly before crashing into the pads at 90mph


He's far from a finished product yet but Ive always rated him very highly..hopefully he can continue to develop further month after month and provide Shaheen with much needed support from the other end.
 
Also forgot about the yorkers..he's getting those toe crushers in now on consistent basis.
 
Grunge101 said:
He's slowly beginning to realize his true potential. We saw shades of it when he debuted in Australia but he was way too raw back then.

Changes I've noticed in him in the last 18 months.

1. Decrease in pace
He's not trying to bowl as fast as he can, instead he's also concentrating on other skills. His Average speed in Australia and England test series was 144-145 km/hr(which was faster than any Aussie bowler and even Archer) with the effort ball being 148-149. Recently though he's dropped down. He's more around 140 now with the peak speed around 145.

2. His length has improved day and night. He used to primarily bowl on the shorter side but now he's pitching it up more and more.

3. hes developed the ability to swing the ball occasionally. His dismissal of O'doud in the first ODI was an example of that. The ball ducked in the air significantly before crashing into the pads at 90mph


He's far from a finished product yet but Ive always rated him very highly..hopefully he can continue to develop further month after month and provide Shaheen with much needed support from the other end.
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Agree with these points.

I expect (and hope) he gets his old pace back though because his bowling is still undergoing changes.

If he is able to develop consistent swing, that's when he will take a massive step forward.

For the last few series, when he swings it, it's primarily inswing. I hope he develops a proper outswinger.
 
I don't think they should play Naseem in every odi and test team they need to manage his workload.
 
shamaan said:
I don't think they should play Naseem in every odi and test team they need to manage his workload.
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I agree that his body and workload should be managed as a pacer with his pace is prone to injuries in early 20s. Though would like him to play every test (Obviously if he is in form) unless he has been playing a lot of current near to a test match and if its against a lower ranked side as Pak would be playing around on avg 7 in next FTP in a year.
 
Titan24 said:
I agree that his body and workload should be managed as a pacer with his pace is prone to injuries in early 20s. Though would like him to play every test (Obviously if he is in form) unless he has been playing a lot of current near to a test match and if its against a lower ranked side as Pak would be playing around on avg 7 in next FTP in a year.
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Yes tests should take priority over odis and t20s but we will have to waite and see how our management manage him.
 
A lot of positives of Naseem in Tests & ODI's lately but the no balls have to be a massive concern, especially in ODI's. Six no balls in 2 ODI's matches is insane and makes it impossible to play him against a top side if he's going to bowl that many no balls.

He needs to take a page out of Rauf's handbook and land half a yard before the line. Bowling coach likely needs to modify his run up a bit to rectify the situation.
 
Naseem getting better with every outing

2/14 in 5 overs so far vs Netherlands in the 3rd ODI

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Lovely spell so far today which includes 2 wickets.

Lively pace and accuracy.
 
Saj said:
Lovely spell so far today which includes 2 wickets.

Lively pace and accuracy.
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Now 3 wickets


Edwards b Naseem Shah 6(6) [4s-1]

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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
What a dream start by Naseem Shah in ODIs. :inti
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Wicket #4

Nidamanuru b Naseem Shah 24(32) [4s-2]

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MenInG said:
Well deserved 5fer for Naseem.
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van Beek c Mohammad Nawaz b Naseem Shah 8(11)

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its not that he took 5 wickets.

its that he bowled very tightly and did not let off...

that is the sign of great bowlers...he led from the front.

if i had a choice, i would play shaheen, naseem and haris rauf as my top 3 with dahani vs. mohammad wasim as 4th.

i dont think hasan ali is top 3 for pakistan anymore. if he improves his batting then
 
Mamoon said:
One of the worst bowlers in the world. Laughably overrated by deluded fans.

He had zero talent and skill, just a runs leaking machine.

The one spell against Australia was probably his only decent bowling effort in 3 years of international cricket, but his fans act as if he is a superstar in the making. Madness.
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Great post
 
At the age of 19, he has a 5fer in Test and ODI cricket. Also a test match hattrick
 
Naseem bowled outstandingly well today. Forget the opposition - against any opposition, this was a masterclass of fast bowling.

Shaheen, Naseem and Haris are by some considerable distance the top 3 pacers in Pakistan.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseem Shah in the ODI series against Netherlands:<br><br>10-51-3<br>6-27-2<br>10-33-5<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NEDvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NEDvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/Sdt5NogWz3">pic.twitter.com/Sdt5NogWz3</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1561398020108759043?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2022</a></blockquote>
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A very good debut ODI series. Although Netherlands as opposition is far from what he will be bowling to in future, can't take away his effort. Has earned his selection for the next series.

His no ball problem is extremely frustrating though.
 
Brilliant start to his ODI career. Bowled some jaffas in the series.

Was the go to man for his captain and team in his very first series in the absence of Shaheen.
 
Usman said:
Naseem bowled outstandingly well today. Forget the opposition - against any opposition, this was a masterclass of fast bowling.

Shaheen, Naseem and Haris are by some considerable distance the top 3 pacers in Pakistan.
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Yep. Those are the best 3 bowlers in Pakistan at the moment, but we still have an undercooked bench. Waseem is still pretty raw, and so is Dahani. I think they need to add Akif Javed to the queue that gets rotated around. A good left-armer is always handy and he's probably the best of the bunch in domestic cricket.
 
A good start- pleasing to see him move the ball and bowl sharply. Obviously bigger tests await and there is a long way to go but he has been through alot and this is a reward for his hard work
 
LOL where are all the haters now.
Where are they hiding?
Come out of the cave.

Even though it's just nederlands but naseem has improved a lot. Even in the PSL he was very very good.

Barring any injuries he is gonna play for Pakistan a long time.

Very happy to see him doing well.
 
Obviously can't get ahead of ourselves but he gets full marks for this series. Brilliant.

His fitness worries me though.
 
Villager6964 said:
LOL where are all the haters now.
Where are they hiding?
Come out of the cave.

Even though it's just nederlands but naseem has improved a lot. Even in the PSL he was very very good.

Barring any injuries he is gonna play for Pakistan a long time.

Very happy to see him doing well.
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Naseem was always an exciting talent. Anyone who couldn't see that doesn't know much about cricket. It's just that he was inducted into the team in the worst way possible. 16 or even 18 years is no age to be playing your first international match, especially if that match is a TEST match against the likes of Warner and Smith in their backyard, i.e, on absolute roads. If Waqar Younis wanted to destroy a young man's confidence for life, he did everything he could to achieve that. On top of that, he lost his mother as a teenager and had some fitness issues as well.

A boy less tough than Naseem could've been permanently scarred by that experience but Naseem seems like someone who has confidence in his skills and the desire to perfect them. He came back strongly and is here to not only stay, but thrive!
 
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Asia Cup is going to be a big test. Wish him the best of luck. All hopes on him now that Shaheen is out.
 
Naseem has looked good.

In Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah, Pakistan can potentially have a world class opening bowling pair for 2023 WC, This will be a big threat for opposition teams.

Wasim - Waqar
Aamir - Asif
Shaheen - Naseem??
 
Saqlain on Naseem

"Its not easy to find a replacement for a good player like Shaheen Shah Afridi but the way Naseem Shah has performed today, he has shown that he has the makings of a superstar in the future; He is already a star but I pray that the Almighty will turn him into a superstar"

"The way he executed his plan with control, aggression and an attacking mindset today, he changed the complexion of the game and brought fame for his country"
 
Yes it was Netherlands, but Naseem bowled some beautiful deliveries in all 3 matches.

Bowled with good pace, control and aggression.

Hopefully we are starting to see the Naseem Shah we all want to see with the ball.
 
The best thing about Naseem was that he himself did not overtly celebrate his wickets in this series

He knew the quality of the players he dominated. Needs to stay humble and he will deliver similarly against the top oppositions too.

If Haris Rauf can be turned into a good wicket taking bowler, Naseem’s potential I’d far far more!
 
Happy for Naseem. Bowled really well. I just hope he stays fit, strong and works hard on his game he will be an asset.
 
Rana said:
The best thing about Naseem was that he himself did not overtly celebrate his wickets in this series

He knew the quality of the players he dominated. Needs to stay humble and he will deliver similarly against the top oppositions too.

If Haris Rauf can be turned into a good wicket taking bowler, Naseem’s potential I’d far far more!
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Well said. Haris could definitely learn on the celebrations from Naseem.
 
Slim said:
Well said. Haris could definitely learn on the celebrations from Naseem.
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In fact the whole team can. Sick and tired of our idiotic celebrations even after getting a no 11 out. It’s embarrassing.
 
Naseem Shah on his match-winning &#55349;&#57299;-&#55349;&#57297;&#55349;&#57297; crowd support in Rotterdam

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So much of the geniuses who called him "one of the worst bowlers in the world"..."laughably overrated by deluded fans" and a guy with "zero talent and skill".

How many fast-bowlers in the world his age, are performing at this level?
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
So much of the geniuses who called him "one of the worst bowlers in the world"..."laughably overrated by deluded fans" and a guy with "zero talent and skill".

How many fast-bowlers in the world his age, are performing at this level?
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I mean I agree, but for Naseem to be one of the best quicks in the world he's gotta do what he did to Netherlands to the Englands, Australias and Indias. If we're looking at it from that lens, his only notable performance was against Australia in the 3rd test this year (which was really good). Not to take anything away from his hattrick vs Bangladesh and 5fer vs SL, but it's ultimately gonna come down to how he fares consistently vs the big teams.
 
TeamPak95 said:
I mean I agree, but for Naseem to be one of the best quicks in the world he's gotta do what he did to Netherlands to the Englands, Australias and Indias. If we're looking at it from that lens, his only notable performance was against Australia in the 3rd test this year (which was really good). Not to take anything away from his hattrick vs Bangladesh and 5fer vs SL, but it's ultimately gonna come down to how he fares consistently vs the big teams.
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in one sentence you list his accomplishments and in other, you say he needs to do more.

the fact of the matter is, he has done average to good if not better in all chances he has gotten as a young bowler. he is surely going to improve.

his line and length and control was incredible whiich is rare for a young fast bowler.
 
arif_2021 said:
in one sentence you list his accomplishments and in other, you say he needs to do more.

the fact of the matter is, he has done average to good if not better in all chances he has gotten as a young bowler. he is surely going to improve.

his line and length and control was incredible whiich is rare for a young fast bowler.
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I’m not taking anything away here, all I’m saying is that his stature as a bowler will come down to how he fares vs the big teams consistently. The last thing people want is for Naseem to be a minnow basher. And yes what he’s done recently so far has been impressive, and the line and length + the speed he’s displayed vs Netherlands was brilliant. Here’s to hope he does this consistently in Asia Cup, Eng series, the World T20 and future tough assignments to come.
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
That won't end well!. Indians love nothing more than an erratic quick bowler. Could be very messy
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Lmao.

You have won me as a fan. Hats off to you lad, so so impressive. We prolly have found the right partner for shaheen.
 
Has come on in massive strides in the last few months. He looks a bowler who can get good batsman out. Today's experience will be priceless
 
Bowling out KL and Surya. Wow!

Could have had Kohli for 0 as well! He is a $1-2m IPL auction bowler (current market rate) for sure!
 
Absolutely brilliant he was today against a formidable lineup. Lots of humble pie today including some for myself.

Just goes to show was thrown in way too early into international cricket and in the wrong format!
 
Kroll said:
Absolutely brilliant he was today against a formidable lineup. Lots of humble pie today including some for myself.

Just goes to show was thrown in way too early into international cricket and in the wrong format!
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The bashing was baseless. This is a young bowler with immense potential. You have to see him bowl to believe it, rather than look at scorecards. He can hit the seam at high pace and get it to move slightly both ways, most teams will KILL to have such a young talented pace bowler.

Only issue has been, while such gems hone their skills in their respective domestic circuits in other countries, in Pakistan they are thrown into the deep end to survive.

Also dumb fans want them to start delivering immediately.
 
Getting to bowl consistently with the new ball is also making a difference. When Abbas was around he was resigned to bowling first change.
 
Have to say this kid is starting to prove me wrong and I don’t get many wrong. He’s got a long way to go but in the right track. Just needs to stay grounded and work harder
 
Kroll said:
Absolutely brilliant he was today against a formidable lineup. Lots of humble pie today including some for myself.

Just goes to show was thrown in way too early into international cricket and in the wrong format!
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Let's hope he stays fit. He needs to realise that his strength is bowling a fullish length around off stump at good pace.
 
Rana said:
Bowling out KL and Surya. Wow!

Could have had Kohli for 0 as well! He is a $1-2m IPL auction bowler (current market rate) for sure!
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Savak said:
Getting to bowl consistently with the new ball is also making a difference. When Abbas was around he was resigned to bowling first change.
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Was beautiful to watch his action. A great find.

Looks like Misbah ul Haq was right all along.
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]
 
Another difficult moment for Naseem as he had to leave with a cramp

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Just imagine if Pakistan have Shaheen, Naseem and Haris Rauf at the World Cup. Can think of few pace attacks more dangerous than that...
 
It would be mouth watering to see Shaheen and Naseem opening the attack while Rauf sandwiching between and with Wasim Jnr hurling down reverse swinging Yorkers as a 4th seamer and great to see Shahdab getting his groove back , it's almost like Afridi, Ajmal Gul and Hafeez level bowling attack now on paper.
 
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It doesn't come anymore difficult then losing your Mum at such a young age. He is doing good, no need to apologize or explain yourself when you've proved your mental strength.
 
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