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[VIDEOS] "Maybe those difficult moments, will make me stronger in future" : Naseem Shah

Better news regarding Naseem.

He's back in training and available for selection.
 
Saj said:
Better news regarding Naseem.

He's back in training and available for selection.
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Looks like Mohammad Wasim may have grabbed his place. Pretty unfortunate as he was probably going to be 3rd seamer until he got injured.
 
hitthestump said:
Looks like Mohammad Wasim may have grabbed his place. Pretty unfortunate as he was probably going to be 3rd seamer until he got injured.
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If he's fully fit, they will most likely go with Naseem over Wasim Jr.

An argument to be made for Pakistan to go with a 4th seamer if Shadab can bat at #4.
 
Nasty Naz said:
If he's fully fit, they will most likely go with Naseem over Wasim Jr.

An argument to be made for Pakistan to go with a 4th seamer if Shadab can bat at #4.
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Hmmm this is going to be tricky…
Shadab at 4 means they do have 1 more bowling option. 4 fast bowlers and 2 spinners is the perfect combo to go with.
 
Nasty Naz said:
If he's fully fit, they will most likely go with Naseem over Wasim Jr.

An argument to be made for Pakistan to go with a 4th seamer if Shadab can bat at #4.
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Even though Wasim has impressed in the last two games at the death; still the jury is out on him. If he holds his own at the death against NZ in the remaining two (potentially) games then he could start versus India.

4 seamers would be the attacking option against India. However, don't think current management is brave enough to do that. They like to play safe and would stick to extra (albeit non-hoper) middle order batsman.

Whoever out of Nasim/Hasnain is in better rhythm should be played. It is a tough one as I personally prefer Nasim but I think Hasnain's bounce can be vital against India. However, if Nasim has regained his fitness/rhythm, then I would still go with him over Hasnain (that again depends upon how Wasim bowls in remaining games plus management's team combination).
 
Naseem over Wasim is a no brainer. Wasim can have good games but he is seriously gargage a lot of the time too
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseem Shah has overcome his health issues and is available for selection for Pakistan's match against New Zealand <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NZvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NZvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1579526978264526848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf should start. The remaining 3 games here and the 2 warm ups will probably decide if Wasim should be preferred over Naseem but I'm pretty sure Naseem will outperform him.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseem Shah has overcome his health issues and is available for selection for Pakistan's match against New Zealand <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NZvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NZvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1579526978264526848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Naseem confirming that he is fine

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Farabi said:
Hmmm this is going to be tricky…
Shadab at 4 means they do have 1 more bowling option. 4 fast bowlers and 2 spinners is the perfect combo to go with.
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Agreed, it's just a shame that Babar has no idea how to utilize 6 bowlers.
 
sam_ahm said:
Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf should start. The remaining 3 games here and the 2 warm ups will probably decide if Wasim should be preferred over Naseem but I'm pretty sure Naseem will outperform him.
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Shaheen won't play this series.
Shaheen,Rauf and naseem will be the pacers for the world cup.
 
Got the breakthrough today

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He rarely looks ruffled in International matches. Didn't seem like he was bowling after a long gap. His mental game is stronger than most guys in our side
 
Lucky wicket today, got the captain!

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I think he is getting overexcited with the slower balls. I will never understand some of our bowlers who even when no one is trying to attack them, or they are bowling at tailenders come in and bowl slower ball after slower ball.

The last over of the Netherland innings was all about slower slower balls. He should have gone the Wasim Jr route and tried to blast them out.
 
I have no idea why pacers are trying to bowl slow ball variation in this tourney. These pitches are spicy a slow ball just sits up as medium pace trundler ball. Had Haris bowled his regular fast in to the body stuff no way was Kohli smoking him for those two sixes.
 
Xoib said:
I have no idea why pacers are trying to bowl slow ball variation in this tourney. These pitches are spicy a slow ball just sits up as medium pace trundler ball. Had Haris bowled his regular fast in to the body stuff no way was Kohli smoking him for those two sixes.
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Probably bcoz that's the only variation they have. The Pakistan pace attack is fast but very unidimensional. Lacks variation or swing or seam movement. So bowlers compensate the lack of variation with slower deliveries and end up overdoing it
 
NishanKonar said:
Probably bcoz that's the only variation they have. The Pakistan pace attack is fast but very unidimensional. Lacks variation or swing or seam movement. So bowlers compensate the lack of variation with slower deliveries and end up overdoing it
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They do swing the new ball when conditions assist more often than not. Its with the older bowl they try the slower balls as there is nothing much else an older ball can offer unless there is some reverse.
 
NishanKonar said:
Probably bcoz that's the only variation they have. The Pakistan pace attack is fast but very unidimensional. Lacks variation or swing or seam movement. So bowlers compensate the lack of variation with slower deliveries and end up overdoing it
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That's a very mediocre assessment. Shaheen, Naseem and Haris all swing it quite a bit Shaheen maybe not this tourney because he is not fully fit.

And iam talking about slow variation in the death overs, which bowler has actually swung the ball on death overs here there is leliterally erally zero reverse on these tracks.
 
Xoib said:
That's a very mediocre assessment. Shaheen, Naseem and Haris all swing it quite a bit Shaheen maybe not this tourney because he is not fully fit.

And iam talking about slow variation in the death overs, which bowler has actually swung the ball on death overs here there is leliterally erally zero reverse on these tracks.
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Pakistani bowlers swing new ball only in helpful conditions. If u see the Indian pace bowlers - they are getting lot more swing in every venue in Australia. But Pakistani bowlers hardly got much swing - even in Melbourne when conditions were good for swing

This lack of swing and variation is why Pakistani bowlers are going for slower deliveries
 
NishanKonar said:
Pakistani bowlers swing new ball only in helpful conditions. If u see the Indian pace bowlers - they are getting lot more swing in every venue in Australia. But Pakistani bowlers hardly got much swing - even in Melbourne when conditions were good for swing

This lack of swing and variation is why Pakistani bowlers are going for slower deliveries
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That's because Indian used a fresh pitch and Haris and Naseem were moving the ball vs India with new cherry its just India got to use a fresher pitch.

Shaheen would swing it if he was match fit he always moves the new ball hence high ratio of first over wickets.
 
NishanKonar said:
Pakistani bowlers swing new ball only in helpful conditions. If u see the Indian pace bowlers - they are getting lot more swing in every venue in Australia. But Pakistani bowlers hardly got much swing - even in Melbourne when conditions were good for swing

This lack of swing and variation is why Pakistani bowlers are going for slower deliveries
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Watch Naseem’s spell against India in the first Asia Cup game, and Haris’ spell against Sri Lanka in the Asia Cup final. There’s enough evidence that these boys are lethal when there’s a bit in the air for the bowlers.

They struggle due to not getting the back of length deliveries. That’s what works in Australia, not swing.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Watch Naseem’s spell against India in the first Asia Cup game, and Haris’ spell against Sri Lanka in the Asia Cup final. There’s enough evidence that these boys are lethal when there’s a bit in the air for the bowlers.

They struggle due to not getting the back of length deliveries. That’s what works in Australia, not swing.
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Thats what I said. They swing only in helpful conditions. Else they wud swing the ball in every match. Not in one off games

Look at Bhuvi and Arshdeep. They swing in every game

Now look at Pakistan. Against Zimbabwe they pitched the ball up but got no swing and instead Zimbabwe got off to a flyer in the PP. India on the other hand got enough swing against South Africa at the same venue and same conditions
 
Xoib said:
That's because Indian used a fresh pitch and Haris and Naseem were moving the ball vs India with new cherry its just India got to use a fresher pitch.

Shaheen would swing it if he was match fit he always moves the new ball hence high ratio of first over wickets.
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Yesterday at Perth India bowled 2nd and still they got more swing than South African bowlers or Pakistani bowlers who bowled against ZImbabwe or Holland
 
Also when Indian bowlers bowled anything above 135k the swing was very low compared to early to mid 130s.
 
NishanKonar said:
Yesterday at Perth India bowled 2nd and still they got more swing than South African bowlers or Pakistani bowlers who bowled against ZImbabwe or Holland
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LoL they are just 130ks trundlers obviously they were gonna get the swing.
Shaheen is not fit but other guys especially Naseem can Swing the ball at over 140ks.
 
What about those slower bouncers!!. He's mastered that skill to perfection it seems. Haven't seen a single batsman this WC who has been able to read his slower balls.

Based on recent form, he's actually a much better death bowler compared to Shaheen.
 
Grunge101 said:
What about those slower bouncers!!. He's mastered that skill to perfection it seems. Haven't seen a single batsman this WC who has been able to read his slower balls.

Based on recent form, he's actually a much better death bowler compared to Shaheen.
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Shaheen is bog average at death regardless of his fitness. The sooner Pakistan realizes that the better.
Naseem on the other hand has shown better skills and temperament at death. However, it would be better if he uses his pace to better effect in his opening spells. He doesn't seem to put any heart in his opening burst.
 
Grunge101 said:
What about those slower bouncers!!. He's mastered that skill to perfection it seems. Haven't seen a single batsman this WC who has been able to read his slower balls.

Based on recent form, he's actually a much better death bowler compared to Shaheen.
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Yes, he is turning out to be the best bowler in death overs for Pak, overall seems to be a very intelligent young man, a quick learner.
 
Naseem has done well but he needs to be careful. As does Rauf.

They have developed good slower ball skills and are able to bowl 2-3 different variations of slower balls. Which as skills to have, our great.

Naseem in particular is like a kid in a sweet shop - he is enjoying bowling his slower balls and is getting a bit too excited. It’s fine, but he has to remember, he’s a fast bowler. Same with Rauf. Your primary reason for being in the team is as a fast bowler. Definitely bowl your slower balls, but when the situation requires it. Yesterday was good from Naseem, the situation required it. But E.g against Netherlands, sometimes there was no need.

Yesterday even, I was glad that Naseem bowled a normal pace on the last ball, but he could have reverted back to normal pace after the 3rd delivery. Haris Rauf yesterday was still bowling slower balls in the final over when it was impossible for SA to win!

Only bowl slower balls and bring variations in when you are being chased. Otherwise impose your will on the opposition with your pace.
 
Unsung hero of the last few months.
He has been unhittable in the middle and death overs so far.
 
He is the silent assassin in the current WT20.

Quietly bowling those economical overs mixing his 145 kph yorkers with some beautiful slower ones. The way he bamboozled the dangerous and well set Daryl Mitchell in the slog overs was the difference in the semifinal today.

The most improved white ball bowler. Surely the credit should go to Shaun Tait.
 
gazza619 said:
He is the silent assassin in the current WT20.

Quietly bowling those economical overs mixing his 145 kph yorkers with some beautiful slower ones. The way he bamboozled the dangerous and well set Daryl Mitchell in the slog overs was the difference in the semifinal today.

The most improved white ball bowler. Surely the credit should go to Shaun Tait.
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Credit to dwayne bravo who taught him in CPL
 
Naseem's new ball skills have suffered. He's had an ordinary T-20 WC with the new ball, he is not taking wickets up front. He's done well in the death overs with his variations but a guy with his pace needs to also be picking up wickets upfront with the new ball.
 
Savak said:
Naseem's new ball skills have suffered. He's had an ordinary T-20 WC with the new ball, he is not taking wickets up front. He's done well in the death overs with his variations but a guy with his pace needs to also be picking up wickets upfront with the new ball.
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Yup very surprised to see no swing from him in powerplay overs .He was getting excellent swing in the air in asia cup
 
He's fine one of our more mentally strong cricketers. I expect him to be an absolute superstar in next couple of years.
 
He has bamboozled alot of batters in this world cup with the slower ball.
 
I know Shaheen was MVP with the ball today; Haris has looked potent throughout but in my opinion, he has been the most bankable pacer of the tournament so far for the team. He has bowled the most difficult overs. 2nd over is usually the one where the batters settle after the first one and then take a chance. Then he either bowls 4th or 5th over of the innings; again ball no longer swings or seams by that time and bowler is under pressure to keep the batters in check.

He then returns at the death and has to deal with set batters most of the times

Pandya/Kohli
Stubbs
And he succeeded with flying colors in both games.



But today was perhaps his best display in the death overs.

Even though he was mostly avoiding getting hit for boundaries against the above mentioned names, I felt he was too reliant on his in-to-pitch slower balls. I always felt that if the batter was setting himself up for the slower one then he could have been hit for boundaries as he was hardly bowling a yorker.

His spell in the semi-final against well-set Mitchell and Neesham was just about perfect; a death bowler's dream. He was unpredictable; batters couldn't line him up as he bowled fast full pitched deliveries, bordering on yorker length, and mixed them up with his ever-reliable into the pitch slower ones.

Only boundary he conceded in the death overs was when he went too full with the slower one and Mitchell managed to get it over cover.

I was skeptical about him doing the job at the death as I thought he was too predictable with his slower ones and couldn't bowl a consistent yorker but he showed today that he has got more tricks up his sleeve and has multiple options to stay unpredictable at the death. Phenomenal defensive bowling skills; better than Haris Rauf right now in my opinion.

Perhaps the defensive bowling skills have affected his overall mindset as he doesn't bowl fullish length even in his first over with the new ball. I think, he should be allowed to bowl full in search of a wicket, even if it costs a couple of boundaries. We know how much he has improved with his control and in general with his new ball bowling so he just needs to be told to bowl attacking lengths in search of a wicket in his first over.
 
Good potential but annoys me with his brainless bowling.
 
Overrated. A nothing bowler.
 
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SpiritOf1903 said:
I think he cost Pakistan the match...was close without his pies
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Yup, there was no way England would’ve chased an above par score of 137 had it not been for Naseem.

Not Rizwan’s fault.

Not Babar’s fault.

Not Ifti’s fault.

Not the management fault for not opening with Haris and not bringing Shadab on ahead of Ifti.

But, let’s blame a bowler who has to defend 138 against the best white ball team in the world that chased 169 without losing a wicket in the previous game.
 
He beat the bat 11 times today - mainly Buttler, Brook and Stokes.

No luck at all.
 
Anyone who saw this spell from Naseem and thought he is overrated, doesn't know the first thing about fast bowling or cricket. Two of modern day LOI greats were getting beaten ball after ball.

And he is far from his peak at the moment, just 19
 
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Babar utilizes him badly otherwise he would have taken 2 or 3 wickets under aggressive and sensible captain.
 
Once the 1st ball full ball was hit 4,he needed a guiding hand to adapt quickly. Took 2 overs too long but pressure does things to you. After that he was excellent.
 
Saj said:
He beat the bat 11 times today - mainly Buttler, Brook and Stokes.

No luck at all.
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In his 2nd and 3rd over he beat the bat 10 times.
5 times Buttler
2 times Brooks
3 times Stokes.

It was the best piece of bowling of the day.
 
The only one who says he bowled badly is a blind hater on another day he ends with 3-20.

Stokes was clueless against him
 
Xoib said:
The only one who says he bowled badly is a blind hater on another day he ends with 3-20.

Stokes was clueless against him
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Even Butler was not laying bat on ball apart from that ridiculous scoop for the whole of his second over. Brilliant bowling, just so unlucky.
 
His first over (as with all of our frontline bowlers), was too full and we paid for it.

Great comeback tho and once he got his length right was unplayable. His last two overs were excellent
 
the people saying he bowled pies would have been lauding him if one caught an outside edge, apart from the 5 wides i don't think he did anything wrong per se, would liked to see him try to swing one or two in early on however.

still him, shaheen and rauf give hope for the future.
 
Excellent development as a bowler he was a class act today shame didn't have the freedom to defend a sizeable total
 
Naseem in his first two overs - 25 runs

Naseem in his last two overs - 5 runs

He has great potential and he was incredibly unlucky not to pick up a wicket.
 
Hextro said:
Naseem in his first two overs - 25 runs

Naseem in his last two overs - 5 runs

He has great potential and he was incredibly unlucky not to pick up a wicket.
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Even his 2nd over was great, managed to beat Butler 5 times in this over.

Extremely unlucky to not pick a wicket
 
He is a special bowler

Will be man of the series against England in the test series. Bookmark this post.
 
Hextro said:
Naseem in his first two overs - 25 runs

Naseem in his last two overs - 5 runs

He has great potential and he was incredibly unlucky not to pick up a wicket.
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Rauf should have gone to him and offer some advice.He was trying to get swing in the first two overs.He should have bowled test lengths.He made the correction in his second spell but he he gave 25 runs in his first two overs.
 
Mobashir said:
In his 2nd and 3rd over he beat the bat 10 times.
5 times Buttler
2 times Brooks
3 times Stokes.

It was the best piece of bowling of the day.
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11 times overall.

Apart from loose stuff in his first over he was brilliant and very unlucky.
 
EXTREMELY POOR captaincy by Baber in the final

You saw how Adil Rasheed bowled and you saw how bad was Naseem’s first over.

Simply connect the two dots and bring on Shadab to replace Naseem IN THE POWER PLAY.

But he went for Naseem again and gave away another 20 odd runs.
 
Naseem’s last 2 overs were the stuff of legends.

Had everyone watching on the edge of their seats. Doing this against a well set Stokes.

A special, special talent. Took away some of the hurt
 
He is improving steadily which is the important thing. He is not quite finished yet but has threatened to be world class on a number of occasions this year and has slowly gotten better after the injuries and loss of form.

I'm almost glad to see him on this steady curve rather than starting with a bang and fizzling away like Hassan Ali.
 
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