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Thanks for writing this,We will win the T20 WC this year, next year’s Champion’s Trophy, the 2026 T20 WC, and the 2027 ODI WC.
Not to mention we will become the #1 ranked Test team and go undefeated for the next 5 years.
If you think that’s a serious post and not just trolling Babar haters like you, I’m not really sure what to tell youThanks for writing this,
Post is bookmarked.
I still have the same opinion. I believe that once Shaheen was made captain, he should have had the opportunity to continue through the end of the T20 WC at least.
But for now, I will enjoy the meltdown of the Babar haters.
So you stand for nothing? But you want to watch people who stand for something out of honesty to have a meltdown?If you think that’s a serious post and not just trolling Babar haters like you, I’m not really sure what to tell you
People criticized some decisions that Naqvi made and you basically just called them angry supporters. Sorry, I’m not gonna feel bad now when he makes a decision against what you wanted.So you stand for nothing? But you want to watch people who stand for something out of honesty to have a meltdown?
What are Babar haters? They don’t care about Pakistan and just want Babar to suffer personally?
Also I’ve already posted what I stand for many times in the past few threads about Babar being reappointed. You can go back and read those threads. You were too busy telling us that your source was saying these reports were wrong and that Babar was really called to ask when he would show up for camp.So you stand for nothing? But you want to watch people who stand for something out of honesty to have a meltdown?
What are Babar haters? They don’t care about Pakistan and just want Babar to suffer personally?
Right, you stand for political agendas and not cricket.People criticized some decisions that Naqvi made and you basically just called them angry supporters. Sorry, I’m not gonna feel bad now when he makes a decision against what you wanted.
Respectfully, why not bro? This is all politically motivated.Calm down guys. No need to bring in political stuff here.
I have no involvement in Pakistani politics, I don’t even live in Pakistan.Right, you stand for political agendas and not cricket.
Got it.
To be honest I have no idea who “160KPH” is, I’m just trying to help you avoid digging an even bigger hole for yourself in missing the attempted subtlety and irony of his post.Na I’m going to take things for face value,
Don’t backtrack now, and stop supporting your friend.
But you want to pick fights with people who basically supported what you are arguing here? So why are you so confused? If you believe in something, why mock/ridicule people who believe in the same truth as you?I have no involvement in Pakistani politics, I don’t even live in Pakistan.
But when someone tries to make reasonable criticisms and you just turn it into politics, what do you expect us to do when he makes a decision you don’t like? Should we now take your criticism super seriously or should we treat your criticisms the same way you treated other’s criticisms?
I already said many many times that in my opinion if they were just going to bring Babar back he should not have been dropped. It makes no sense to me to bring Shaheen as captain only to drop him after 1 series.
For political stuff, we have other thread available. No need to bring imran khan or PPP here. Keep thread on topic.Respectfully, why not bro? This is all politically motivated.
It’s not really about cricket. If it were, how does Babar merit a return as white ball leader?
I can handle myself, thanks for your concernTo be honest I have no idea who “160KPH” is, I’m just trying to help you avoid digging an even bigger hole for yourself in missing the attempted subtlety and irony of his post.
However, should you remain content in letting it fly over your head, so be it.
I wish you well
Right,For political stuff, we have other thread available. No need to bring imran khan or PPP here. Keep thread on topic.
Because when people were making some criticisms that I was making before, you called them supporters of a certain political figure rather than engage with the point. Now you’re getting treated the way you treat others and you don’t like it?But you want to pick fights with people who basically supported what you are arguing here? So why are you so confused? If you believe in something, why mock/ridicule people who believe in the same truth as you?
I never wanted Babar to take this role once again. He was getting back into batting form nicely but this extra burden will do no good to him.Right,
Do you agree this decision isn’t based on merit though?
Babar’s last ODI results: ICC World Cup, 4 out of 9 wins (Netherlands, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and New Zealand on DLS)
Asia Cup: 2 wins (Bangladesh and Nepal)
But I ask you to be fair and honest,I never wanted Babar to take this role once again. He was getting back into batting form nicely but this extra burden will do no good to him.
There was no point of making him captain again and remove shaheen just after 1 series failure.
The issue is mixing up formats.But I ask you to be fair and honest,
Was his initial removal justified or not?
I am fair and honest in my opinion. The removal of Babar earlier was not bad because he failed badly in a few tournaments. T20s we qualified for semis and finals back to back so it was not that bad of a results but failing to not even win 1 out of 4-5 tournament is not good. And his own batting form was also not good during that tenure.But I ask you to be fair and honest,
Was his initial removal justified or not?
The people who supported Babar were indeed supporters of a certain political figure, they were blindly defending him because Babar was their leader’s choice. How was I or people like me wrong to call this out.Because when people were making some criticisms that I was making before, you called them supporters of a certain political figure rather than engage with the point. Now you’re getting treated the way you treat others and you don’t like it?
Yes, with RizwanSo babar going to open again in t20
Opening position is the best position for statpadder babar know thatYes, with Rizwan
Our batting order:
1. Rizwan (he will face first ball as Babar is senior)
2. Babar
3. Fakhar
4. Saim
5. Iftikhar (might get sent to 8)
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab
8. Usama Mir
9. Shaheen
10. Wasim Jr
11. Naseem
babar hasn't made any new friends so farWait until we see Hasan Ali, Nawaz, Shadab getting into the T20 probables again.. Babars best buddies
Well, you should let him bat if you want to ensure that Pakistan remain below parOpening position is the best position for statpadder babar know that
Very easy to blame Babar here. He could have refused but he didn't.
As far as Shaheen is concerned, Shaheen in the past has made many pro IK statements and credited IK for encouraging him to accept the LQ captaincy. Naqvi is Asim Munirs brother in law and an extension of the establishment which is hell bent on punishing anyone who supports IK.
Bro!!! Babar fans are too busy with Babar's stats plus some wins here and there. Not bother with winning trophiesRight,
Do you agree this decision isn’t based on merit though?
Babar’s last ODI results: ICC World Cup, 4 out of 9 wins (Netherlands, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and New Zealand on DLS)
Asia Cup: 2 wins (Bangladesh and Nepal)
Let’s put trophies aside, we don’t have captains of the Australian/English caliber. We get thatBro!!! Babar fans are too busy with Babar's stats plus some wins here and there. Not bother with winning trophies
Purana Pakistan was supposed to be the Naya Pakistan in 2019. How did that work out?Welcome to Purana Pakistan
The only people who committed career suicide are the PP posters who have been doing bhangra for two weeks at the prospect of Amir and Imad returning to international cricket and have been working overtime to convince everyone that Babar is the worst batsman in history.Babar Azam is committing career suicide by accepting captaincy at this point.
Bro, I copied your thread and post it to Akhter Abbasi Youtube video who supporting Babar using stats. Hopefully you will not mindBabar Azam Stats as a Captain.
First Captain in the History of Pakistan who lost 6 Tournaments out of 6 .
Never Won any Major Trophy..
Lost 6 Major Tournaments
Lost the T20 Worldcup 2021
Lost the T20 Worldcup 2022
Lost the Asia Cup 2022.
Lost the Asia Cup 2023
Lost the One ICC Test Championship.
Lost ODI Worldcup 2023 .
Pakistan has lost five matches for the first time in the history of World Cup.
In Asia Cup 2023 ,In Super 4 Stage Pakistan ended at last spot their worst position ever in Asia Cup history !
The first time in World Cup history that Pakistan has lost four matches in a row. (Worldcup 2023 ).
Pakistan defending 270+ in world Cups
Before Babar azam Captaincy
1975 - 2019 (15 Matches - 14 wins - 1 Defeat )
Under Babar Azam Captaincy
2023 (3 Matches - 1 Win - 2 Defeats )
After 1999, Pakistan First time lost the Match against South Africa in Worldcup .
First time Lost the Match against Zimbabwe in Worldcup .
First time Lost the Match against Afghanistan in an ODI and Worldcup.
Lost the Match against Zimbabwe in T20 Series in Zimbabwe.
Lost the T20 series against Australia in Australia.
Lost the T20 Series against Australia B team in Pakistan.
Lost the Test Series against Australia in Pakistan.
Lost 4 Home Tests in a Row for the first time in the history of pakistan.
White Washed against England B team in ODI .
White Washed against England in test .
Lost the T20 Series against England in England.
Lost the T20 series against England in Pakistan.
Lost the test match against 8 ranked team West Indies and level the series .
Lost the test match against 7th ranked team Sri Lanka and level the series .
Lost the ODI Series against Newzealand in Pakistan..
Level the T20 series against Newzealand B team in Pakistan!
Pakistan's heaviest ODI World Cup defeat against india in terms of overs left . India won by 7 wickets with 117 balls(19.3 overs ) to spare.
First Captain in the History of PSL Who Lost 9 Matches out of 10 .
First Captain in the History of PSL Who lose the Match twice after scoring 240+ ..
Before Babar Azam Captaincy Pakistan was number 1 team in T20 Ranking and Now Pakistan is 5th Rank team in T20 .
Despite playing 52 matches in ICC events (including Asia cup), Babar Azam has only received one man of the match award.
Most matches captained for Pakistan:
Imran Khan 187
Misbah-ul-Haq 151
Babar Azam 134
Wasim Akram 134
You are saying that he is Still learning after 134 Matches ?
Pakistan Azam mostly wins against B or C teams !
When Babar azam became the Captain.
Pakistan team position at that time
Odi (5th position)
Test (6th position)
T20 ( 1st position)
When Babar Azam Leave the Captaincy :
Pakistan team position at that time
Odi (4th position )
Test (6th position )
T20 (5th position)
Team Ranking improvement under Babar azam Captaincy within 4 years )
ODI (5th => 4th) (Only +1 Ranking improvement)
Test (6th => 6th ) ( No improvement in Ranking )
T20 (1st = 5th ) (- 4 Ranking Decline)
▪︎Pakistan's Win Ratio in Last 4 Editions of ICC ODI World Cup ~
• WC 2011 : 71 % ( Capt : Afridi )
• WC 2015 : 57 % ( Capt : Misbah )
• WC 2019 : 63 % ( Capt : Saifi )
• WC 2023 : 44 % ( Capt : Babar )
Figures show that WC 23 was the worst campaign Team Pakistan had in last 4 Editions despite having No.1 Ranked Team , Batter and Bowler ~( We all know that Pakistan won mostly matches against B or C team Under Babar azam Captaincy)
Dunya Trophies jeetnay walo ko yad rkhti hai jaisay Imran khan ,Younis khan , Sarfraz Ahmed !
In 3no nay trophies jeeti Hain jubhi inka name hai !
Bhalay worldcup may India say haar jao koi farq NH parhta lekin trophy jeet jao ,trophy important hai na k ak T20 worldcup may India ko harana or us k bad buri trha India say haartay rehna !
And then what?not really a big issue everyone and their dog knows Babar can't perform in tournaments as soon as we are out of the tournament media will make sure Babar is sacked again as captain
You forgot Hasan Ali, Nawaz. Heard Shaheen may benched for Rauf. Don't think Usman has any chance to play as Babar will not take any new player for experiment. As a captain Babar have full authority to choose whom he wants.With the return of Babar Azam as captain and the return of Amir and Imad, the legendary Karachi Kings have been reunited.
Whatever petty disagreements and arguments happened in the past must be left in the past. Now we must stand together.
Shaheen, Naseem, Amir.
Shadab, Imad, Iftikhar.
Babar, Saim, Usman Khan, Rizwan, Harris.
Pakistan vs everybody.
We have a new PCB chairman and a new selection committee as well as 2 new coaches about to be hired.You forgot Hasan Ali, Nawaz. Heard Shaheen may benched for Rauf. Don't think Usman has any chance to play as Babar will not take any new player for experiment. As a captain Babar have full authority to choose whom he wants.
So most likely
Babar-Rizwan
Fakhar Ifti
Haris/Saim
Amir Shadab Nawaz Rauf Hasan in main team.
Come on Rizwan may better than Babar or you want to give Babar another 6-7 years?And then what?
Rizwan will be captain?
Apparently the new coach did have an inputThis is a poor move by the PCB for a few reasons.
Firstly the new coach for the white ball formats hasn't been appointed yet and should of had an input.
Secondly removing Shaheen after 1 series is a foolish knee jerk reaction and could have an adverse effect on his performance and create instability within the team close to a world tournament.
Thirdly Babar himself should of declined the offer.
We needed a fresh approach and mindset with someone tactically and strategically astute with game awareness to go to plan b or c during a game if need be and be able to think outside the box to make things happen.
If the PCB felt Shaheen wasn't the man then on merit Riz should of got an opportunity with Shadab being second choice with Hesson endorsing his credentials.
Imad could of been a short term solution as well.
Turns out Amir and Imad were playing checkers while Babar was behind the scenes playing chess.He is literally the mack daddy of all his haters
I would like a 1 min silence for the Bacha Party please.
Big and small Eid cancelled this year.
Rizwan doesn’t live on this planet I’m afraid. The guy needs to be avoided, he will cause a lot of issues even though he doesn’t intend to be a miscreantCome on Rizwan may better than Babar or you want to give Babar another 6-7 years?
Most social media posts and trends are against Babar this time ie it was very selfish of him to accept the captaincy and dethrone Shaheen in this manner.
However Babar was admanant in his conditions to the PCB ie I want the captaincy in all formats, I want the players I want ie no Amir, Imad, I want a say in the next coach.
Naqvi told him to sit down ie we are offering you the white ball captaincy keeping the T20 WC and CT 2025 in mind, we have other options as well, you will be given a fair long term chance as captain depending on team performance, as far as selection of the players is concerned, leave that to the selectors and mind you I will be keeping a close eye on things, I will not tolerate any injustice with any player on my watch, we will announce the test captain later in after the T20 WC ends and when we have the test coach here as well.
Turns out Amir and Imad were playing checkers while Babar was behind the scenes playing chess.
Checkmate boys.
Babar is stubborn. He will not listen neither to selectors like 2023 to Inzi co. nor coaches ie Micky. PCB is just wasting money. Whomever will choose to coach will end up dark spot on their coaching. PCB will sack coaches as scapegoat after we fail to reach semi.We have a new PCB chairman and a new selection committee as well as 2 new coaches about to be hired.
I will hope that they make intelligent selections until I’m proven wrong.
Don't believe this Naqvi guy!!!! Heard lots of injustice to people by himself. How can you tolerate injustice if you are not just yourself. This is the Public show talkWere you present when he was hired mate if you have access to the terms and conditions do share them buddy
More like Babar’s dad has told him to acknowledge those two as the brother’s of destructionIt will be blockbuster viewing when Pandya, sorry I mean Amir has to get in line and pledge allegiance to Babar.
Amir/Imad will be forced to acknowledge their tribal chief @BunnyRabbit
More like Babar’s dad has told him to acknowledge those two as the brother’s of destruction
Well that’s not what his dad wants, he wants it the other way round because he knows his son needs them.I think both of them are going to be joining the Babar kiss his backside club though lol they have to play under him
Well that’s not what his dad wants, he wants it the other way round because he knows his son needs them.
How could you prepare them by asking his son to do this to them?Babar’s dad is just preparing both Imad and Amir for the kiss the Azam’s behind in advance me thinks
Good cap, bad cop routine.Babar’s dad is just preparing both Imad and Amir for the kiss the Azam’s behind in advance me thinks
This has nothing to do with Lahore or any other city.it’s clear Lahore lobby showing their authority . Babar’s selfish behaviour is clear for all to see now . Babar is not even a better captain than Shan or shadab . You gave this failure captain 4 years and still want him while shaheen only got 5 games and you made a decision based on that . What a mockery !
How could you prepare them by asking his son to do this to them?