shah_1
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Shami>>Rabads last two years
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In SC, yes. In general Rabada >>>>> ShamiShami>>Rabads last two years
In SC, yes. In general Rabada >>>>> Shami
Rabada is average in Asia and Shami isn’t average in SENA.
Rabada is average in Asia and Shami isn’t average in SENA.
Rabada averages 34.5 in Asia. Shami averages 33.9 in SENA
44 under Dhoni
28 under Kohli
Dhoni was never a fast bowler captain, he mostly liked line and length bowlers like Vinay Kumar and Parveen Kumar.
All Indians started to make him mediocre,stats does not show the picture he bowled well in this tour but there were no one to support him when you have trundlers like Philander and inexperienced bowler like Nortge.
He was highest wicket taker from South Africa in this series.
He is not a failure in Asia,he bowled well in Sri Lanka last year.
I wonder how noone cosiders these facts when they call Kapil Dev below Imran Khan as a bowler and when they call Srinath an average bowler.![]()
I never told that Rabada is best bowler in the world,I say that he bowled well.
Kapil should have retired after 1992 world cup or before that.
His legacy will be known same as James Anderson longevity but not effective.
In terms of longevity Courtney Walsh was successful.
The points you raised for Rabada that he hasnt a decent bowling partner to justify your point about Rabada's poor performance. Well, Kapil bowled without a bowling partner and without any decent bowlers for his entire career. Imagine what a hit his bowling stats took because of that.
Srinath for the first half of his career, when he was express, had no bowling partner neither a mentor to learn from. It was only around 2001ish that Zaheer and Nehra started bowling with him. But by then, he was at the fag end of his career.
Richard Hadlee did it, Courtney Walsh at the end of his career he outbowled Ambrose so many times.
Kapil is a good bowler but not great and he will be known same as James Anderson.
Rabada is just 24 now he has lots of time to prove.
If hadlee did and Walsh did, then Rabada should have done it too. Just means he is another average joe.
Rabada's career is not over yet let's judge him at the end of his career.
I will judge him then too. But for now, he is nothing more than an average bowler who is a home track bully. Nothing more.
I will judge him then too. But for now, he is nothing more than an average bowler who is a home track bully. Nothing more.
My mind says cummins, bumrah> Rabada but my heart says Rabada >>> bumrah, cumminsHe continues to remain a fantastic bowler in test cricket. This series was one of the toughest he had to deal against but he looked the only bowler who could make some impact but eventually couldn't do much with the bowl. At least he didn't became a stock bowler like Philander who was struggling for wickets in these conditions.
Rabada has done well in Sri Lanka and Australia has been great in other countries also. Overall, he still remains one of the best bowler in the world but maybe for now, Cummins and Bumrah can be rated higher in terms of recent performance.
I love kagiso. He will definitely go down as one of the greatest ever but I still think boom boom bumrah and cummins are better.
Not the Bumrah that we saw in NZ. if that Bumrah doesnt improve from that version, he is back in the pack. Rabada has simple problem- his lengths are too short(Broad and Anderson had similar problems until constant badgering by the SKY commentary team forced them to change) and have been for the last 1.5 years. He is also lacking rhythm and the injuries havent helped.
that bumrah just came back from a serious injury. He already showed how good he can be in the second test. How got rid of Kane twice for a low score. The 2 n.z openers were lucky pant can't keep for sh*t otherwise it would have been an easy 4/5 wicket haul in both innings of the second test.
He was slowly getting back to his best in that series. I have no doubt he will be at his best for the Australian summer tour.
Waqar Younis before a similar injury was a freak of nature, that WY lasted 2 and a bit years. Bumrah was destined to be the best Ind fast bowler ever and one of the recent greats, but he lost that zip and if he strives to get it back then it will mean stress on the body and if he doesnt strive, he will be one of the better bowlers but not a great bowler that he looked like being, its these tiny margins that separate the men from the boys.
like I said. I watched the whole game. Both test matches. He was close to his best in the second test. He bowled really well. Pant just csnt keep for sh*t. had Saha played the figures would have looked totally different. He beat the bat so many times. Just dint have much luck. Anyway we shall see what happens. I am certain a bowler of his calibre will bounce back stronger than ever. If a player like cummins with a fragile body could make a comeback after 7 years the I am sure bumrah can too.
I saw Bumrah on very helpful wickets and i didnt see what you say. Any bowler worth their salt would beat the bat on those wickets, he was still good and skill levels are exceptional and will remain good but its that zip that made him such a difficult prospect and he didnt have it. Its the small margin that make such big differences
I am pretty sure I follow every indian fixture and I know what he is capable of delivering. I have seen the zip. It was there in the second test.
Even if it wasn't he still bowled really well considering the fact that he was rushed into the series without enough rest. India also were fatigued from playing all these rubbish t20 and bilateral games vs australia and n.z.
He is a top bowler. With modern science and advanced technology I am sure he will return to his best. If cummins could do it then so can bumrah.
Home track bully are you kidding me?
He averages 17 in Australia 23 in Srilanka 28 in England.
Leading fast bowler of this generation. Absolutely phenomenal given he’s only 25.
Seems to be very lowly rated by everyone.
The guy is toothless on slow non bouncy wickets
He needs a good ICC tournament to get noticed by more people. He's obviously phenomenal in tests but underfired in both CT17 and WC19
Kagiso Rabada's T20 legacy is intact by his performance in IPL this year. It has been a legendary performance from him this year. He doesn't have to perform in WT20 to be considered a great T20 player now. If he does though, it further enhances his legacy.
His overall legacy is anyways much bigger and greater as he is a legend in all-formats. He does need to prove himself a bit more in ODIs though including World Cup.
In tests, the biggest challenge in modern era for a fast bowler is performing vs India in India and unless he delivers that, he will always be remembered as an inferior test bowler to Steyn Gun and White Lightning Donald.
There is no comparision between any cricket league games and the WT20.
Kagiso is the best in the world all formats combined no one's close to him.He is gonna be the best for Many years to come.Amazing bowler!
Most fast bowlers haven’t even debuted or hit their stride and Rabada has done all this by the time he’s 25. Phenominal.
Has the Steyn LOI problem: bowls either too full or too short and not smart with his variations.Rabada seems more threatening in IPL then in LO for South Africa. He is too good to not be impacting LOs more for South Africa.
Has the Steyn LOI problem: bowls either too full or too short and not smart with his variations.