Saurav
Senior T20I Player
- Joined
- Feb 7, 2010
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He is fitter than Steyn and almost equal to him in terms of skill, if he stays injury free will surpass him in no of wickets.
No.Look at what both have done in India
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He is fitter than Steyn and almost equal to him in terms of skill, if he stays injury free will surpass him in no of wickets.
Yeah, Steyn's skills were on another planet. Rabada has long long way to go before being spoken in same sentence as Steyn.No.Look at what both have done in India
Yeah, he is overrated. Better than Steyn and what not!A green/home track bully par excellence.
Put him anywhere in Asia and he goes to water.
Averages 23 in srl and 22. 5 in pakistan.A green/home track bully par excellence.
Put him anywhere in Asia and he goes to water.
Kagiso Rabada 200 Test wickets:
- 8th South African; Steyn, S Pollock, Ntini, Donald, M Morkel, Kallis & Philander
- 3rd fastest South African (44 Tests); Steyn (39) & Donald (42)
- 4th youngest all-time (25y & 248d); behind Waqar Younis, Kapil Dev & Harbhajan Singh
A green/home track bully par excellence.
Put him anywhere in Asia and he goes to water.
Brilliant bowler. Who cares what he does in Asia lol? Some people think too much of this. What are you expecting a fast bowler to do on pitches that have nothing in it for them? If they perform, that is great. If not, doesn’t make you a rubbish bowler
Rabada will do okay in Asia anyway.
Kagiso Rabada on Waqar Younis during the post day presser:
"I would like to chat with him when all of this is over and see what he has to say"
Highly sceptical of the real ages of the top 3 - in all likelihood Rabada is the fastest. Having said that a better comparison may be number of deliveries taken to reach the milestone.
His brother Faisal let it slip on air that Waqar is 52 right now. That’s 3 years of fudging, which puts him just below Steyn on the above list.
Haha, just seen this. Not surprised at this. Where was this?
QeA trophy final. He was doing commentary
Highly sceptical of the real ages of the top 3 - in all likelihood Rabada is the fastest. Having said that a better comparison may be number of deliveries taken to reach the milestone.
5 wickets at an average of nearly 40.
He was awful and looked disinterested most of the time.
Even with the bat he is no mug, but in this series he scored 22 runs in 4 innings.
5 wickets at an average of nearly 40.
He was awful and looked disinterested most of the time.
Even with the bat he is no mug, but in this series he scored 22 runs in 4 innings.
Needs a breather and a proper captain. Most talented fast bowler in the world along with Archer.
He has burned-out.I find him to be highly over rated. Nortjke kept racing in, bending his back and touching speeds around 140-145 km/hr regularly in all his spells and Rabadda was hovering at 129-132 km/hr, he clearly is a bouncy track bully, doesn't know how to bowl outside his comfort zone.
Needs a breather and a proper captain. Most talented fast bowler in the world along with Archer.
How do you rate Bumrah? He too has the skills, can move the ball both ways and reverse it. The pace has gone down a bit but can still crack it to 140s often.
Ever since the Warner QDK fight 3 years ago, Rabada has struggled. Looks to be going backwards very quickly.
He had a stress fracture in his lower back. And CSA play him in every single format all the time. A young bowler shouldn't have such an insane workload.
But he has also had a rest for pretty much a year and a bit and looks, by his own standards, very average
I commented around 2 years ago that he had lost that zip.I agree. There's something not quite right with the way hes bowling. Just does not have the same zip off the wicket he had earlier.
Needs to work with Lillee or one of those Aussies coaches and get his action, rhythm and everything sorted much like Johnson did or I fear for his future. CSA are clueless.
World Cup Hat-trick for Kagiso Rabada against England.
0/51 from 20 innocuous overs at Centurion today, he just doesn't look the same bowler he was three years ago.
Can't spot any major technical differences from when he was bullying the Pakistani batsmen in 2019, however, pace is down considerably and there's no real swing or seam movement.
0/51 from 20 innocuous overs at Centurion today, he just doesn't look the same bowler he was three years ago.
Can't spot any major technical differences from when he was bullying the Pakistani batsmen in 2019, however, pace is down considerably and there's no real swing or seam movement.
It's the composition of the side which is destroying him.
He is bowling an extra 3 overs in every session, because the support bowlers are not Test class. It's the same reason why Shaheen Shah Afridi is so much more dangerous when Faheem Ashraf is in the team.
Give Rabada 5 overs per session and he can bowl at 145K and he will take a wicket in every spell.
Give Rabada 7 overs per session and he will bowl at 136K and take fewer wickets.
It's the composition of the side which is destroying him.
He is bowling an extra 3 overs in every session, because the support bowlers are not Test class. It's the same reason why Shaheen Shah Afridi is so much more dangerous when Faheem Ashraf is in the team.
Give Rabada 5 overs per session and he can bowl at 145K and he will take a wicket in every spell.
Give Rabada 7 overs per session and he will bowl at 136K and take fewer wickets.
Surprising you'd say that. SA pacers are
1. Jansen - 6'8"
2. Ngidi - 6'5"
3. Rabada - 6'3"
4. Mulder - 6'2"
This is the tallest, and by virtue of that fact, the greatest seam attack currently playing especially since that rth quick is tall enough too.
Surely that's not an excuse for Rabada![]()
He has lost a lot of pace. Disappointing yesterday.
He once looked like a champion bowler, but not in that class at the moment.
Rabada is a high quality bowler, who is going through a bad patch. That is part of the game. Doesn't make him any bad. He is still in the same class as Cummins and Bumrah as top 3 bowlers of this generation.
Kagiso Rabada's statistics:
November 2015 to January 2019:
Matches: 35
Bowling Innings: 65
Overs: 1075.5
Maidens: 224
Wickets: 168
Best Bowling Innings: 7/112
Best Bowling Match: 13/144
Bowling Average: 21.41
Strike Rate: 38.4
5 Wicket Innings: 9
10 Wicket Match: 4
February 2019 to December 2021:
Matches: 13
Bowling Innings: 22
Overs: 408.2
Maidens: 85
Wickets: 45
Best Bowling Innings: 5/34
Best Bowling Match: 7/171
Bowling Average: 28.88
Strike Rate: 54.4
5 Wicket Innings: 1
10 Wicket Match: 0
It's a significant decline.
Kagiso Rabada's statistics:
November 2015 to January 2019:
Matches: 35
Bowling Innings: 65
Overs: 1075.5
Maidens: 224
Wickets: 168
Best Bowling Innings: 7/112
Best Bowling Match: 13/144
Bowling Average: 21.41
Strike Rate: 38.4
5 Wicket Innings: 9
10 Wicket Match: 4
February 2019 to December 2021:
Matches: 13
Bowling Innings: 22
Overs: 408.2
Maidens: 85
Wickets: 45
Best Bowling Innings: 5/34
Best Bowling Match: 7/171
Bowling Average: 28.88
Strike Rate: 54.4
5 Wicket Innings: 1
10 Wicket Match: 0
It's a significant decline.
It's the composition of the side which is destroying him.
He is bowling an extra 3 overs in every session, because the support bowlers are not Test class. It's the same reason why Shaheen Shah Afridi is so much more dangerous when Faheem Ashraf is in the team.
Give Rabada 5 overs per session and he can bowl at 145K and he will take a wicket in every spell.
Give Rabada 7 overs per session and he will bowl at 136K and take fewer wickets.
Plays too many limited over games to for my liking, SA should limit his workload and use him closer to tournaments in the limited overs. Prioritise Tests and use him in bursts, but support at the other end would help to. At the moment he needs some rest to.
Was a high quality bowler but isn't at the moment. Weren't you arguing how good he was and after one innings you are now saying he is going through a bad patch. How can 20 overs lead you to conclude a bad patch?
So, which great bowler hasn't gone through a bad patch?
Rabada is one of the best bowler of this generation and he just proved it by performing very well vs the best side of this generation. He is in a league of his own with 200+ test wickets at an average under 23 at age of 26 only.
He looks short of rhythm and confidence- surely he needs to play more not less at this point..
He has slowed down but definitely not 127-133.Was watching clips of his bowling in 2016-2017. The guy used to consistently operate at 140-145 km/hr. His pace has drastically dropped to 127-133 km/hr. That drop in pace makes a huge difference. He is very lucky he gets fast bouncy seaming wickets at home where his 127-133 km/hr bowling is effective but he will struggle for effectiveness on most other wickets.
Was watching clips of his bowling in 2016-2017. The guy used to consistently operate at 140-145 km/hr. His pace has drastically dropped to 127-133 km/hr. That drop in pace makes a huge difference. He is very lucky he gets fast bouncy seaming wickets at home where his 127-133 km/hr bowling is effective but he will struggle for effectiveness on most other wickets.
He has slowed down but definitely not 127-133.
He bowls at 133- 142 nowadays.