[VIDEOS/ PICTURES] Waqar Younis "Liked that Rizwan stood in the middle and read prayers in front of the Hindus"

[Lego20]

I am a Pakistani living abroad. It true a lot of people will not agree to what he said but a good portion of Pakistani and Indians are basically the same kind of xenophobic, religious hate mongers. They would both say, look we are fair and other party is a religious fanatic. Look we treat our minorities and the others dont. In reality, minorities in both countries suffer, anti hindu/any other religion than islam sentiment is quite common in Pakistan without acknowledging that is is there. While at the same time, India suffers form anti-muslim sentiment. Civil society of India is a bit bigger in terms of percentage and more secular than civil society of Pakistan but just by a small bit. The countries are quite the same. Insensitive comments like from waqar could just come from some bjp loving player in India against Pakistan's defeat and noone in India would notice. We are all the same. Just admit the truth and then try to improve it.

There is a big difference in degrees. So no, not equal at all.

You are equating fringe, rare but disproportionately magnified events in hyperactive Indian media with factually verifiable statistics against (now almost non-existing) minorities in Pakistan.

 

[TheSultan]

I think what Waqar meant was that it’s good to see Rizwan offering prayers egen though there were Hindus there.

I.e. He wasn’t ashamed to pray and did what he had to do at that time.

 

[princeuk]

This is why cricketers arent treated like gods in pakistan unlike India because they are still normal people like everyone else, and most of them are uneducated so we cant take them seriously. Not that i havent heard indian cricketers making stupid remarks but i dont blame the entire country.

 

[Kroll]

I think what Waqar meant was that it’s good to see Rizwan offering prayers egen though there were Hindus there.

I.e. He wasn’t ashamed to pray and did what he had to do at that time.

What was the need for him to say anything at all? It wasn't relevant to the game and knew it would be construed as inflammatory.

 

[cricketmerijaan]

Waqar's comments have been taken out of context, and should have been worded better. He's apologised for them, and lets move on.

But what's the bigger issue is secular, borderline atheists on PP having a hissy fit everytime a player mentions Allah or performs a Sajda.

 

[IcedCoffee]

I'm not talking about the Indian media which is garbage and routinely indulges in Islamophobia. I'm talking about Indian cricketers, who I don't remember making any comments directed against muslims or Islam specifically. Whereas the likes of Afridi, Tanveer et al have made religious comments directed against Hindus or Hinduism.

Who knows? They probably have. As far Afridi and others go, it’s probably because of the treatment of Muslims on a large scale by the government ala Kashmir—something which isn’t happening even in Pakistan which isn’t great for minorities either. But as I said, neither deserves a place in the media despite the sentiments.

 

[Bewal Express]

Waqar's comments have been taken out of context, and should have been worded better. He's apologised for them, and lets move on.

But what's the bigger issue is secular, borderline atheists on PP having a hissy fit everytime a player mentions Allah or performs a Sajda.

What makes you think that you are more pious than the guys that dont like fake piety.

 

[OmarKhan99]

What? I don't have anything to do with this. Always said he was a batsman and captaincy candidate for the future. Way better than the previous generations of Akmal and Sarfraz.



I don't think you know much about Hayden - he's one of the most devout kumbayah people out there. More so since retirement.

Any particular reason you thought it necessary to quote me without context in another thread and not reply in original one? My point was in relation to "should Rizwan be allowed to pray mid-drinks break", and I was contesting someone who essentially implied that "spirituality doesn't offer any motivation" and that all motivation is just innate to sporting ability.

Anyone with even a little bit of understanding knows that Muslims pray for their own benefit not to one up folks from other religions. Waqar's line is totally bonkers and most would disagree with his sentiments.

Also, I'd rather agree with Hayden since that agrees with what I see with my very own eyes (team's collective spirit), than doubt him since you think he's gone all hippy.

In the future, don't quote me in another thread, and without full context. Absolutely disingenuous and extremely disappointing.

 

[jawwada]

see you are again saying , you are fair and the other party is bad. I am friends to many Indians, the support of Modi is extremely strong among educated Indian expats. And the worst part is that they have logics like you

 

[Zaz]

We can see that Indian cricketers are far more street smart and more groomed. I hope Pakistan players, ex-players and other staff can carry themselves more graciously but I'm not holding my breath.

For every kohli and tendulkar you have bufoons like bhaji, sehwag, prasad and gambhir spewing venom n hate so lets not make out like indian cricketers are so much better When clearly many are worse

 

[jawwada]

stupid nationalism, greed, racism, religious and political divide is penetrating the world of cricket more than it should. The ugly spats between former players, negative comments about opposition groups coming from sporting heroes is eating at the beauty of the game and accepted as norms from folks who take them as dieties. Alas!!

 

[cricket4all]

For every kohli and tendulkar you have bufoons like bhaji, sehwag, prasad and gambhir spewing venom n hate so lets not make out like indian cricketers are so much better When clearly many are worse

Absolutely spot on. Gambir and Sehwag especially with disrespectful and war mongering stuff full of hate and spite. What Waqar said was wrong but he clarified and apologised which the Gambhirs haven’t. As for Afridi, he’s only spoken for the rights of Kashmiris.
The bigger more serious picture after this latest cricket match is the Kashmiris being beaten around India for supporting Pakistan. In Kashmir itself many have ludicrously and obviously targeted by the state by being charged with ‘terrorism’ for just celebrating Pakistan’s win. Show the insecurity. Imagine expats in the West being charged for terrorism for cheering for their native country or any other? Wow!

 

[Civil]

Waqar apologized on A sports post match and said it was heat of the moment. Hopefully people move on from this shameful comment.

 

[OmarKhan99]

Any particular reason you thought it necessary to quote me without context in another thread and not reply in original one? My point was in relation to "should Rizwan be allowed to pray mid-drinks break", and I was contesting someone who essentially implied that "spirituality doesn't offer any motivation" and that all motivation is just innate to sporting ability.

Anyone with even a little bit of understanding knows that Muslims pray for their own benefit not to one up folks from other religions. Waqar's line is totally bonkers and most would disagree with his sentiments.

Also, I'd rather agree with Hayden since that agrees with what I see with my very own eyes (team's collective spirit), than doubt him since you think he's gone all hippy.

In the future, don't quote me in another thread, and without full context. Absolutely disingenuous and extremely disappointing.

Actually I take that last bit back [MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION], I just realised that the mods would have probably branched into this thread from that original thread and hence why it seems out of context.

You're all good

 

[freezerburn]

I'm glad he apologized. I think the problem is we Pakistanis are very casual people. In our society it is acceptable to make casual comments even if the person has good intent.

Waqar despite being an ex-professional and coach thought it was okay to casually say what he did, without realizing he comes off as a buffoon.

 

[skhanmac]

Agree with Harsha.. Let's not mix religion with sports.

Rizwan can pray in the open or in private - his decision. Praying between non-muslims meant nothing to him or others.

 

[Golden arm]

Lol there was a funny joke on twitter I saw for this Waqar comment that another 15 years of BJP and ministers would be calling the Indian players to match the on field religious worship of the Pakistanis to show that Hinduism is no less and players will start lighting an aarti and agarbathi after a 50 lol.

correct, this why Modi is what Zia was for Pakistan

 

[Lego20]

Who knows? They probably have. As far Afridi and others go, it’s probably because of the treatment of Muslims on a large scale by the government ala Kashmir—something which isn’t happening even in Pakistan which isn’t great for minorities either. But as I said, neither deserves a place in the media despite the sentiments.

(While I dont agree with your claim), treatment of Kashmiris by Indian govt has absolutely nothing to with them being Muslim. But again exposes your thinking lens where Muslims are to be cared for, people from other religions (eg. Hindus in Bangladesh etc.) are low lives. One up, even Muslims are low lives if they reside in the land of Iron Birathers. Even one up, certain Muslims (Ahmedis) in our own land are proclaimed and disowned of their Muslim identity written in their Passports.

 

[Mirpur express]

Frankly speaking this is the result of godi media & Indian media in general,” kharbooza kharboozay ko dekh k rang pakarta hai, expected someone like Tanvir Ahmed to say something like that not Waqar he deserves all the heat..

 

[wrongun]

Matty Hayden used to make a cross every time he got a ton. I don't remember that becoming a topic of political discussion.

It's a bit provocative of Waqar to bring it up in such a way.

 

[Firebat]

He's issued an apology for his comments:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the heat of the moment, I said something which I did not mean which has hurt the sentiments of many. I apologise for this, this was not intended at all, genuine mistake. Sports unites people regardless of race, colour or religion. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/apologies?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#apologies</a> &#55357;&#56911;&#55356;&#57339;</p>— Waqar Younis (@waqyounis99) <a href="https://twitter.com/waqyounis99/status/1453109128755232772?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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[Snowflake]

Matty Hayden used to make a cross every time he got a ton. I don't remember that becoming a topic of political discussion.

It's a bit provocative of Waqar to bring it up in such a way.

Yeah...not the same thing at all

 

[Snowflake]

Request to any PPer who is trying to justify, explain or worse, support what Waqar said; please stop!

What Waqar said was flat out wrong. No two ways about it. Please show that his comments do not represent us all.

 

[Sycamore]

The comments highlight exactly why having Waqar on as the coach for this WC wouldve meant failure. Imagine if he had said it in the coaching room in the mid innings break to rizwan ?

As for the actual comment, its actually more direspectful to Rizwan, he (waqar) is insinuating that Rizwan offered prayers for some particular reason in mind (astaghfirullah). As a muslim the only, ONLY reason you offer prayers is for Allah SWT, the relationship and that Namaz is between god and the individual.

 

[street cricketer]

Who knows? They probably have. As far Afridi and others go, it’s probably because of the treatment of Muslims on a large scale by the government ala Kashmir—something which isn’t happening even in Pakistan which isn’t great for minorities either. But as I said, neither deserves a place in the media despite the sentiments.

I'm not talking about the numerous comments of Afridi in favour of Kashmir. That is normal for any Pakistani to tweet in support of Kashmir. Those are purely political comments.

But I remember Afridi once saying in a tv show that he saw his little daughter doing something that imitated doing an aarti while watching a Star plus serial and he got angry and broke the TV. I'm not sure what this had to do with Kashmir, but you probably would understand why he said so.

It's like an Indian cricketer saying he got angry and broke his TV because he saw his son or daughter singing kun faya kun or khwaja mere khwaja running on tv.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

He's issued an apology for his comments:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the heat of the moment, I said something which I did not mean which has hurt the sentiments of many. I apologise for this, this was not intended at all, genuine mistake. Sports unites people regardless of race, colour or religion. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/apologies?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#apologies</a> &#55357;&#56911;&#55356;&#57339;</p>— Waqar Younis (@waqyounis99) <a href="https://twitter.com/waqyounis99/status/1453109128755232772?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Good stuff. I am glad he issued apology and clarified. Many Indians of course are using this to divert attention from the obvious.

 

[pillionrider]

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Sorry, but this looks like an apology forced on him by the broadcaster. That was one arrogant apology

And interestingly, he seems to be only focused on India, forgetting more importantly what it meant to the Pakistani Hindus who idolize him.

Anyway, I don't think an apology matters or was even required. As far as I'm concerned, his original statement just revealed in a disappointing way, a certain side to him that I didn't see. Maybe I'm just more disappointed with myself for reading him wrong

 

[saeedhk]

You would think that Waqar who has lived in Australia would be open-minded and progressive but we have been proven otherwise.

 

[Jeetlodil]

Sorry, but this looks like an apology forced on him by the broadcaster. That was one arrogant apology

And interestingly, he seems to be only focused on India, forgetting more importantly what it meant to the Pakistani Hindus who idolize him.

Anyway, I don't think an apology matters or was even required. As far as I'm concerned, his original statement just revealed in a disappointing way, a certain side to him that I didn't see. Maybe I'm just more disappointed with myself for reading him wrong

Some things cannot be corrected by an apology but only by a penalty. He should be barred from the media by PCB like any match fixer would have been. There is disgrace not only for Hinduism but also for his religion and his country of origin in what he said

 

[street cricketer]

Some things cannot be corrected by an apology but only by a penalty. He should be barred from the media by PCB like any match fixer would have been. There is disgrace not only for Hinduism but also for his religion and his country of origin in what he said

Oh please, it's not that deep.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Waqar's apology is not adequate. It's not even an apology. He is saying 'maybe' or 'could have hurt sentiments'. He is also saying people in India are playing it up because Pakistan lost - not the fact that he said something that is despicable and should be condemned on both sides of the border - or indeed everywhere.

Not good enough.

He should be sacked. End of.

 

[Jeetlodil]

Oh please, it's not that deep.

The depth of understanding can vary with each person. I invite you to correct or change the depth of my understanding.

 

[Energy]

This only goes to show how many decisions he's taken in the past, selection wise and coaching wise 'in the heat of the moment' that have gone on to cost Pakistan matches, and series, and made a mockery of the team.

Do something stupid, then think about what you've done and apologise. This guy should never have a PCB position again if our team is to progress.

 

[IcedCoffee]

(While I dont agree with your claim), treatment of Kashmiris by Indian govt has absolutely nothing to with them being Muslim. But again exposes your thinking lens where Muslims are to be cared for, people from other religions (eg. Hindus in Bangladesh etc.) are low lives. One up, even Muslims are low lives if they reside in the land of Iron Birathers. Even one up, certain Muslims (Ahmedis) in our own land are proclaimed and disowned of their Muslim identity written in their Passports.

You can disagree if you want, but the reality is that there is clearly an islamophobic element in India especially when it comes to Kashmir and India by at large. Hell, look at the treatment Muslim Indian players get whenever there is a loss on the cards especially against Pakistan, not to mention some of the govt's Islamaphobic policies. For your other silly point, you're just putting words in my mouth now. I never said that being concerned about Muslims somehow makes it ok to consider other minorities as "low lives". What does the treatment of Hindus in Bangladesh have to do with Pakistan? I don't know what Iron Birathers are. Ahmedis openly go against the Quran so by definition, they cannot be Muslims. It's another issue when it comes to their treatment (or mistreatment rather).

However, none of that is to the scale of what's happening in Kashmir and hence players tend to get emotionally charged and make such statements because it's perceived that their "brothers" are being harmed in IOK. it wouldn't be too far from the truth either as there's a clear target on Muslims through this Modi administration. I don't see that in Pakistan.

I'm not talking about the numerous comments of Afridi in favour of Kashmir. That is normal for any Pakistani to tweet in support of Kashmir. Those are purely political comments.

But I remember Afridi once saying in a tv show that he saw his little daughter doing something that imitated doing an aarti while watching a Star plus serial and he got angry and broke the TV. I'm not sure what this had to do with Kashmir, but you probably would understand why he said so.

It's like an Indian cricketer saying he got angry and broke his TV because he saw his son or daughter singing kun faya kun or khwaja mere khwaja running on tv.

Kashmir is a political and partly religious issue hence the calls for a referendum vote.

As for the Afridi thing, first of all, I don't know if that is true, but if so then you could argue whether or not he overreacted by breaking the tv, and whether he should have shared this on tv or not, but it's perfectly fine to be upset at your kids for breaking such an important rule in the religion (copying other religions or associating others with God). Obviously, Pakistan is a lot more Islamically inclined a nation than secular at least in comparison to India so you can see why he made those sentiments--provided they're not degrading or belittling other religions (there's a deeper side to this which I don't have time to fully discuss right now but it could have to do with him wanting to strengthen the resolve/discipline of the nation at large who do seem to get carried away quite a lot). I still don't think it should be shared on live tv as there are Hindus in Pakistan as well.

What Waqar did was worse because it came off as boastful and self-centered almost as if to send a message to Hindus rather than practice your faith. Politicizing a religious ritual isn't right.

As for those 2 songs you mentioned, I'm not sure what those have to do with Islam as music is a controversial topic, but beyond that, those two "songs" are not part of any religious ritual as the aarti or salah is. But let's say they were imitating some Islamic ritual, then it would be fine for their parents to get upset if they're Hindus but better to not share on live tv especially in India because as I said, it's more of a secular country than a religious republic and the minority factor.

 

[Golden arm]

He's issued an apology for his comments:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the heat of the moment, I said something which I did not mean which has hurt the sentiments of many. I apologise for this, this was not intended at all, genuine mistake. Sports unites people regardless of race, colour or religion. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/apologies?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#apologies</a> ����</p>— Waqar Younis (@waqyounis99) <a href="https://twitter.com/waqyounis99/status/1453109128755232772?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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You should be definitely ashamed.
You were thorough wrong
Please give definitely whole hearted apology.

 

[Golden arm]

This only goes to show how many decisions he's taken in the past, selection wise and coaching wise 'in the heat of the moment' that have gone on to cost Pakistan matches, and series, and made a mockery of the team.

Do something stupid, then think about what you've done and apologise. This guy should never have a PCB position again if our team is to progress.

Spot on. This too me, is the crux and indicator of his mental calibre.

 

[Golden arm]

Waqar's apology is not adequate. It's not even an apology. He is saying 'maybe' or 'could have hurt sentiments'. He is also saying people in India are playing it up because Pakistan lost - not the fact that he said something that is despicable and should be condemned on both sides of the border - or indeed everywhere.

Not good enough.

He should be sacked. End of.

I agree
Though later he said he shouldn't have said
I think he knows he said wrong stuff but some where his ego is still coming in the way which is natural.
Let's move on

 

[Mobashir]

The innital comment was in a bad taste, good from Waqar to recognize it and apologize for it.

 

[TheSultan]

What was the need for him to say anything at all? It wasn't relevant to the game and knew it would be construed as inflammatory.

True, he shouldn’t have said anything but once he did we should all know he’s not great with words. There’s a whole thread of his commentary bloopers.

 

[street cricketer]

The depth of understanding can vary with each person. I invite you to correct or change the depth of my understanding.

People make stupid comments. Don't need to demonise them for eternity for a single mistake.

 

[MenInG]

Waqar apology added to Post #1

 

[YousafTheBeast]

An apology won’t be enough, he’s just ruined his own reputation and gained nothing from it.

He’d probably need to make some donations to the Pakistani Hindu community, and some pr

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Waqar apologized, he said it in the heat of the moment. Watching Rizwan pray in the middle of the ground we all had a peaceful aura which can't be expressed similar to how Hardik says he has an aura around him

 

[street cricketer]

Waqar apologized, he said it in the heat of the moment. Watching Rizwan pray in the middle of the ground we all had a peaceful aura which can't be expressed similar to how Hardik says he has an aura around him

The only aura Hardik has around him is nautanki aura.

 

[Jeetlodil]

People make stupid comments. Don't need to demonise them for eternity for a single mistake.

A ban for 6 months to a year will send a good message plus it will work as an inhibitor for such comments in the future. An apology is less likely to bring that kind of a change.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Our players and pundits need to learn not to weaponize religion. Sure express it openly but don't beat others over the head with it.

I am glad Waqar apologised. I do feel the criticism was slightly overblown but if he had just kept his mouth shut about Rizwan praying then nothing would have happened.

 

[street cricketer]

A ban for 6 months to a year will send a good message plus it will work as an inhibitor for such comments in the future. An apology is less likely to bring that kind of a change.

If we go into woke standards, guys like Gambhir and Sehwag can never do punditry in TV.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absolutely vile and disgusting comments from Waqar Younis. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Shameful?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Shameful</a></p>— Wasim Jaffer (@WasimJaffer14) <a href="https://twitter.com/WasimJaffer14/status/1453227042296799239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

I agree
Though later he said he shouldn't have said
I think he knows he said wrong stuff but some where his ego is still coming in the way which is natural.
Let's move on

I will never move on from this personally. This was bigoted and wrong.

Between Waqar, Amir, Sheikh Rashid, they have done their best to take away from the work of the team and from true culture of Pakistan.

 

[MenInG]

New Delhi: Congress leader Abhishek Manu Singhvi on Wednesday slammed former Pakistani pacer Waqar Younis for making religious overtures during India-Pakistan's ICC T20 World Cup 'Super 12' game that took place on October 24. Pakistan had defeated India by 10 wickets in the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2021 match.

In a tweet, the Rajya Sabha MP said, "Pakistan is a state of mind... a mental disease... And regardless of 'stature', anyone suffering from the disease displays common symptoms - be it Masood Azhar or Waqar Younis!"

He was commenting on cricket commentator Harsha Bhoghle's remarks that Younis' statements are disappointing.

"For a person of Waqar Younis' stature to say that watching Rizwan offering namaz in front of Hindus was very special to him, is one of the most disappointing things I have heard. A lot of us try hard to play such things down and talk up sport and to hear this is terrible," the tweet by Bhogle read.

Former India cricketers Aakash Chopra and Venkatesh Prasad had yesterday criticised Waqar Younis for his controversial remark that Pakistan opener Mohammad Rizwan offering namaz "in front of Hindus was very special to him".

During the drinks break of the match on Sunday, Rizwan offered namaz and the video has gone viral.

Former Pakistan bowling coach Waqar told Shoaib Akhtar and a Pakistani journalist that witnessing Rizwan perform namaz during the match was a special moment for him.

"Sabse achi baat jo Rizwan ne ki. Usne ground mein khade hoke Naamaz padhe, hinduon ke beech mein...So that was really something very very special for me. (What I liked the most is what Rizwan did. He stood in the middle of the ground and read the prayers, in front of the Hindus)," Waqar was cited as saying by Arya News.

The statement made by Waqar upset his fans and angered a few former Indian cricketers too.

In response to his remarks, former India pacer Venkatesh Prasad described Waqar as a shameless man.

"Hinduon ke beech me khade hoke namaaz padi, that was very very special for me - Waqar. Takes jihadi mindset of another level to say this in a sport. What a shameless man," tweeted Prasad.

Younis later apologised for his statement, saying, "In the heat of the moment, I said something which I did not mean which has hurt the sentiments of many. I apologise for this, this was not intended at all, genuine mistake. Sports unites people regardless of race, colour or religion. #apologies (Folded hands symbol)."

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...tal-disease-says-abhishek-manu-singhvi/827034

 

[globalcitizen]

This is just a game of cricket and not a religious war and marking territory sort of thing. Ok he has beliefs and did namaz, nothing more than that no one cared either.
Waqar first gives a statement which he absolutely meant it and then gives a sham apology as well. And he was coach of Pakistan just few months back..

 

[Uzi]

He made an idiotic comment and has apologised. Move on you snowflakes.

It's not something he should be hung for. I personally wouldn't have him on the show in any case as he isn't that good a pundit.

 

[Mamoon]

Waqar is basically echoing the thoughts of every single Pakistani. We are an extremist nation and denial won’t help.

The only difference is that millions of Pakistanis do not have a platform to express their bigotry and extremism.

However, you can observe it at a fundamental level by the fact that Pakistan is by far the worst country in the world when it comes to the treatment of minorities.

 

[topspin]

Waqar is basically echoing the thoughts of every single Pakistani. We are an extremist nation and denial won’t help.

The only difference is that millions of Pakistanis do not have a platform to express their bigotry and extremism.

However, you can observe it at a fundamental level by the fact that Pakistan is by far the worst country in the world when it comes to the treatment of minorities.

Also notice that his apology doesn't come across as sincere even in the slightest. It should have been addressed directly to the Hindus who have every right to feel aggrieved by his words.

Waqar isn't sorry, he's sorry that he got caught speaking his mind.

The comments made by him and Sheikh Rasheed are symptomatic of a society that is fuelled by religious intolerance and extremism.

What will serve our best interests is secularism in Pakistan cricket and have a functioning society where we're not united merely by religion.

 

[Pakhs]

Waqar is basically echoing the thoughts of every single Pakistani. We are an extremist nation and denial won’t help.

The only difference is that millions of Pakistanis do not have a platform to express their bigotry and extremism.

However, you can observe it at a fundamental level by the fact that Pakistan is by far the worst country in the world when it comes to the treatment of minorities.

What gives you the right to speak for every Pakistani in the world? I know a lot of Pakistanis who are not extremists. I think you are speaking for your self and your family.

 

[Pakhs]

Also notice that his apology doesn't come across as sincere even in the slightest. It should have been addressed directly to the Hindus who have every right to feel aggrieved by his words.

Waqar isn't sorry, he's sorry that he got caught speaking his mind.

The comments made by him and Sheikh Rasheed are symptomatic of a society that is fuelled by religious intolerance and extremism.

What will serve our best interests is secularism in Pakistan cricket and have a functioning society where we're not united merely by religion.

Shiekh Rashid comments serve and advances his political agendas similar to what many politicians do in many countries including India but Waqar comments are more disgusting.

 

[IMMY69]

Wow..

"In a tweet, the Rajya Sabha MP said, "Pakistan is a state of mind... a mental disease... And regardless of 'stature', anyone suffering from the disease displays common symptoms - be it Masood Azhar or Waqar Younis!"

I think this is actually worse then what Waqar said and what Waqar said was bad!

 

[Ha55an]

Waqar is basically echoing the thoughts of every single Pakistani. We are an extremist nation and denial won’t help.

The only difference is that millions of Pakistanis do not have a platform to express their bigotry and extremism.

However, you can observe it at a fundamental level by the fact that Pakistan is by far the worst country in the world when it comes to the treatment of minorities.

Do you ever come back to read your own posts? You know... reflect on your own self? It would help you a lot, trust me.
I am a pakistani and you have no right to speak for me or every single pakistani. Speak for your own self. Thank you.

 

[Amarahmed]

Waqar is basically echoing the thoughts of every single Pakistani. We are an extremist nation and denial won’t help.

The only difference is that millions of Pakistanis do not have a platform to express their bigotry and extremism.

However, you can observe it at a fundamental level by the fact that Pakistan is by far the worst country in the world when it comes to the treatment of minorities.

Never seen such an honest Pakistani...bhai Galati se toh paida nahi hue na

 

[cricket4all]

Many from India wanting Waqar banned and saying he's shameless and so on. Yes, he was wrong and made a bad comment, but he quickly apologised. Nobody can go into ones heart whether he meant it or not but have to take it on face value.
However, these same people are quite hypocritical not complaining about even more and regular disgusting comments about Sehwag, Gambhir, Prasad etc which sterotype and generalise Pakistanis as well as being war mongering and full of hate.
Such a hoo ha about someone who has apologised for his mistake. Theres much bigger things like the beating up of innocent kashmiris and charging them with 'terrorism' for just celebrating pakistan's win.
People should move on and get over Waqar's comments which he has apologised for.

 

[Jeetlodil]

If we go into woke standards, guys like Gambhir and Sehwag can never do punditry in TV.

Same punishment if Sehwag or any cricketer who makes such comments on a public platform. It is for all so that it is not repeated. There has to be a cost to passing such comments.

Gambhir has turned into a politician. Not that it gives someone a license but there is precedence of stupidity there which is generally ignored by the masses.

 

[Saj]

He's apologised on national tv.

Many other former players around the world would not have said sorry.

 

[Romali_rotti]

LOL This is such a Pakistani cricketer thing to do, they just don't get it.

I recall Shoib Malik years ago after a win when he was captain said something like: I like to dedicate this win to all muslims of the world.... Danish Kaneria a Hindu I believe may have played in that match...Even if Danish didnt play that match, it was such a pathetic thing to say as many Pakistani Hindus would be supporting Pakistan.

 

[Romali_rotti]

What Shoib Malik did was a lot worst than Waqar imo

 

[YousafTheBeast]

LOL This is such a Pakistani cricketer thing to do, they just don't get it.

I recall Shoib Malik years ago after a win when he was captain said something like: I like to dedicate this win to all muslims of the world.... Danish Kaneria a Hindu I believe may have played in that match...Even if Danish didnt play that match, it was such a pathetic thing to say as many Pakistani Hindus would be supporting Pakistan.

What about Sehwag and Gambhir? You really think they heard firecrackers from their homes when Pakistan won?

They were insinuating that Muslims in India were setting off firecrackers, and even if they were why does it bother them so much?

 

[Romali_rotti]

What about Sehwag and Gambhir? You really think they heard firecrackers from their homes when Pakistan won?

They were insinuating that Muslims in India were setting off firecrackers, and even if they were why does it bother them so much?

Compare apples with apples.

Sehwag and Gambir have never in their playing days after any match said;;we won because we were hindus or say dumb and insensitive things like; we would like to dedicate this win to all hindus of the world.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Compare apples with apples.

Sehwag and Gambir have never in their playing days after any match said;;we won because we were hindus or say dumb and insensitive things like; we would like to dedicate this win to all hindus of the world.

Which Pakistani cricketer said that we won because we’re Muslims?

 

[Majid Khan]

While Waqar’s comment was unnecessary in the context of a cricket match, maybe I’m missing something obvious here but I’m trying to understand what is offensive about it , has he said anything insulting about Hindus by praising a Muslim for practising his religion proudly in the presence of people from another religion in the middle of a match?

Or is any part of what he’s said factually incorrect ?

Or maybe there’s some other statement he’s given that I’m not aware of in which case please someone correct me.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Which Pakistani cricketer said that we won because we’re Muslims?

You are very slow my friend.. Just leave it ...

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

He's apologised on national tv.

Many other former players around the world would not have said sorry.

He didn't apologize. He said agar and magar.

And if others don't apologize, it doesn't make Waqar's offense any smaller.

A lot of people bringing in Sehwag, Gambhir etc - which is just whataboutery.

What others say is irrelevant here. What Waqar said is relevant.

He brought the country into disrepute, he didn't represent the true sentiments of Pakistanis.

I don't recall talking to any Pakistani muslim during the match and heard any mention of someone saying Rizwan is praying amongst Hindus. All everyone noticed was him praying, many liked it and moved on. Not one mention of Hindus - until Waqar and the likes of Sh Rashid spoke up about Islam. Even after the match, I didn't see one picture/mention/meme about Rizwan mentioning Hindus.

This is not Pakistani mindset. It is a non bailable offense. It hurts minorities in both countries and gives fuel to the fire to extremists on both sides. He should be sacked.

 

[Zaz]

It was inappropriate comment Waqar acknowledges that religion shouldnt have been brought up in the discussion Like a poster said he didnt demonise or criticise hindus or hinduism So all this hoo ha i dont get

Hes apologised and its time to move on Theres been a lot worse been said in the past and no aplogies made

These indian ex cricketers who are jumping on the band wagon critisicing him need to look closer to home and start speaking up for the minorities in their country They go quiet n missing when the likes of shami are persecuted but are quick to spew when pakistanis make a mistake

 

[Zaz]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absolutely vile and disgusting comments from Waqar Younis. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Shameful?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Shameful</a></p>— Wasim Jaffer (@WasimJaffer14) <a href="https://twitter.com/WasimJaffer14/status/1453227042296799239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here we go Another one jumping on the bandwagon Going over the top calling it vile n disgusting I mean whats he trying to prove?

Waqars accepted his mistake so to come out with this is just ridiculous Has Wasim Jaffer called all the comments shamis getting vile and disgusting too?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Wow..

"In a tweet, the Rajya Sabha MP said, "Pakistan is a state of mind... a mental disease... And regardless of 'stature', anyone suffering from the disease displays common symptoms - be it Masood Azhar or Waqar Younis!"

I think this is actually worse then what Waqar said and what Waqar said was bad!

Agreed. Waqar has realised his words were ill advised, and has rightly apologised on national tv. I hope this Indian MP has the good grace to do the same.

But I doubt it.

 

[IMMY69]

He didn't apologize. He said agar and magar.

And if others don't apologize, it doesn't make Waqar's offense any smaller.

A lot of people bringing in Sehwag, Gambhir etc - which is just whataboutery.

What others say is irrelevant here. What Waqar said is relevant.

He brought the country into disrepute, he didn't represent the true sentiments of Pakistanis.

I don't recall talking to any Pakistani muslim during the match and heard any mention of someone saying Rizwan is praying amongst Hindus. All everyone noticed was him praying, many liked it and moved on. Not one mention of Hindus - until Waqar and the likes of Sh Rashid spoke up about Islam. Even after the match, I didn't see one picture/mention/meme about Rizwan mentioning Hindus.

This is not Pakistani mindset. It is a non bailable offense. It hurts minorities in both countries and gives fuel to the fire to extremists on both sides. He should be sacked.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said and something like this shouldn't go unpunished as it does relflect badly on majority of people who do not share these views.

Having said that, a line must now been drawn under it. A stupid statement from a stupid person and that's that. The more importance we give to it the more it is highlighted snd used by certain people to jump down on, for example that MP in the Indian congress...

Anyway that's just my two cents

 

[Major]

He's apologised on national tv.

Many other former players around the world would not have said sorry.

I agree with this. Many would not even admit their mistake.

However, what waqar said is something that majority pakistans do share but wont say it and will get backlash. Problem is we pakistanis look at india as a hindu nation.

Remember sohail tanvir comments, i used to be his fan but when he made those hindu comments it made to stop supporting him.

While its good waqar apologised, but still he made some stupid remarks in his apology.. he doesnt realize we also have a hindu population that exists in the country.

Anyways, Waqar can do some social work with the hindu population of Pakistan if he wants to save his image

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He didn't apologize. He said agar and magar.

And if others don't apologize, it doesn't make Waqar's offense any smaller.

A lot of people bringing in Sehwag, Gambhir etc - which is just whataboutery.

What others say is irrelevant here. What Waqar said is relevant.

He brought the country into disrepute, he didn't represent the true sentiments of Pakistanis.

I don't recall talking to any Pakistani muslim during the match and heard any mention of someone saying Rizwan is praying amongst Hindus. All everyone noticed was him praying, many liked it and moved on. Not one mention of Hindus - until Waqar and the likes of Sh Rashid spoke up about Islam. Even after the match, I didn't see one picture/mention/meme about Rizwan mentioning Hindus.

This is not Pakistani mindset. It is a non bailable offense. It hurts minorities in both countries and gives fuel to the fire to extremists on both sides. He should be sacked.

It was a dumb comment, no argument about that, but all he said was that he was proud that Rizwan was praying in a place where they was predominantly Hindus. It's not like he insulted Hindus, from what I can tell it was more of a compliment to Rizwan's own conviction of his faith. I think as long as he has realised it was a poor statement we can leave it at that. If Pakistan want to sack him, then should do it because he's a poor coach, that statement alone is not really grounds for it.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

(Most/ 99%) Desis (especially form INDO PAK) are just half minded backward under developed humans. Idc if anyone is offended.

No wonder the whites see us as subhumans, as they should.

This raise of social media has only made it worse. The way these desis use social media, I think we should be banned from it.

And they’re so much concentrated on “being better than the other” coz they deep down know they’re worthless and no one cares about them. Attacking minorities, based on race, religion, sect, gender is all they could do. And since 60% of them are jobless (have some random jobs) no wonder they do some of the ugliest things on this planet to keep themselves busy

 

[Zaz]

It was a dumb comment, no argument about that, but all he said was that he was proud that Rizwan was praying in a place where they was predominantly Hindus. It's not like he insulted Hindus, from what I can tell it was more of a compliment to Rizwan's own conviction of his faith. I think as long as he has realised it was a poor statement we can leave it at that. If Pakistan want to sack him, then should do it because he's a poor coach, that statement alone is not really grounds for it.

Waqar isnt a coach of pakistan anymore so they cant sack him

 

[SM1989]

(While I dont agree with your claim), treatment of Kashmiris by Indian govt has absolutely nothing to with them being Muslim. But again exposes your thinking lens where Muslims are to be cared for, people from other religions (eg. Hindus in Bangladesh etc.) are low lives. One up, even Muslims are low lives if they reside in the land of Iron Birathers. Even one up, certain Muslims (Ahmedis) in our own land are proclaimed and disowned of their Muslim identity written in their Passports.

"Ahmedis" are not muslims. This is what the legal constitution of Pakistan states and what the core beliefs of muslims stipulate. If they don't like it, they can easily take asylum in the UK.

Regardless Waqar's comments were a bit unnecessary. However if seen in the light of annoying all the hindutva supporters of the Indian team, they fit nicely.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said and something like this shouldn't go unpunished as it does relflect badly on majority of people who do not share these views.

Having said that, a line must now been drawn under it. A stupid statement from a stupid person and that's that. The more importance we give to it the more it is highlighted snd used by certain people to jump down on, for example that MP in the Indian congress...

Anyway that's just my two cents

Thanks. A sacking will be nice though. From his media job.