What's new

Virat Kohli should stay back and fight for his team in Australia

Varun

Varun

Senior Test Player
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Runs
26,243
Post of the Week
1
If he leaves now, he's effectively leaving the team in tatters. The pussycat vice captain Rahane is not up to it, and our only chance of staving off a whitewash is if Kohli remains as batsman and captain.

He has decades in front of him to watch his child grow up. On the other side, Starc is reportedly facing a grave family situation but is still out there playing.

Kohli shouldn't leave the aftereffects of this mess to the drunk Shastri or the timid Rahane.
 
Covid threw a spanner in the works. In any other year, he would have missed just the one test. But take into account the quarantine requirements on both sides and he's out for the rest of the tour.

That said, one would think he and his wife could have planned the pregnancy better with this tour penciled in years in advance.
 
It should be the other way round.

Alongside Kohli, everyone else should board the flight and come back home.
 
Varun said:
If he leaves now, he's effectively leaving the team in tatters. The pussycat vice captain Rahane is not up to it, and our only chance of staving off a whitewash is if Kohli remains as batsman and captain.

He has decades in front of him to watch his child grow up. On the other side, Starc is reportedly facing a grave family situation but is still out there playing.

Kohli shouldn't leave the aftereffects of this mess to the drunk Shastri or the timid Rahane.
Click to expand...

There is nothing more than being there for your wife at that kind of timing. Not even representing India matters more.

He should travel back
 
Don't know what difference will it make if he meets his kid after a month or so. This has never happened before in Indian Cricket. Fans never realized when Cricketers married , who they married , when they had kids nobody made a fuss about going back in middle of the series. But in case of Kohli, his personal life from the time of his wedding, to Anushka getting pregnant and now the childbirth is always in the media.

Kohli is very conscious of his image and doesn't want to let go of an opportunity to be praised by the Media about what a great and ideal Husband and father he is, who quit series midway just to be with his wife , otherwise some tragedy could have happened in his absence.
 
Sportsmen and Soliders have a bigger duty to their country. Andrew Flintoff because he was captain of England decided against going back to England to be with her for the birth of their child because he couldn't leave his team behind during the ashes.

Besides this is the age of Skype, Zoom, Whatsapp video, he can easily take out time for 10 minutes for the special occasion and go back out there to join his team.
 
Why couldn't Anushka have given birth in Australia to make things easier for her husband?
 
Savak said:
Sportsmen and Soldiers have a bigger duty to their country. Andrew Flintoff because he was captain of England decided against going back to England to be with her for the birth of their child because he couldn't leave his team behind during the ashes in Australia.

Besides this is the age of Skype, Zoom, Whatsapp video, he can easily take out time for 10 minutes for the special occasion and go back out there to join his team.
Click to expand...

Lol there is a bit of difference between a soldier and cricketer isn’t it? Also why should Kohli care about what Flintoff did? This is a personal decision and there is really no right or wrong answer.
 
The decision needs to be respected. However I don't expect many of these Indian players ever recovering from this. They are scarred forever
 
Savak said:
Sportsmen and Soliders have a bigger duty to their country. Andrew Flintoff because he was captain of England decided against going back to England to be with her for the birth of their child because he couldn't leave his team behind during the ashes.

Besides this is the age of Skype, Zoom, Whatsapp video, he can easily take out time for 10 minutes for the special occasion and go back out there to join his team.
Click to expand...

Reminds me of that scene from the movie "Border" where a soldier(Sudesh Berry) ran away from his duty to be with his wife and family, Sunny Deol scolded him for that. He then came back, fought and gave his life away. Real question is who is going to be our Sunny Deol on this occasion? :inti
 
Are you kidding me hell yes he should board the flight . The birth of your first child is way more important than a game cricket. Also anybody who says he's playing for his country or India etc that should never be the point it's not a war it's a sport that you can't leave it and go. I hate it when players don't go back home after one of their parents has passed away are you like kidding me I would never sacrifice a day like that even if it were the world Cup final like that is your blood and blood comes before sport at the end even if it's for your country it's a sport not a war so Kohli should totally go
 
hafeezrocks said:
Who will die if Kohli plays Cricket? Whose life is under threat if he plays ?
Click to expand...

By life I didn’t mean life and death lol. The birth of his first child is a big moment in his life which he doesn’t want to miss . So he requested a leave from his job which his employers granted. Not sure why people are acting like he committed treason.

Not saying it would have been wrong for him to stay til the end of the series but at the end of the day it’s his decision which he should not be attacked for.
 
If someone in my family passed way or was even slightly sick, I would quit even the World Cup Final just to be with the ones who need me and everyone should in such a situation s But give me a break, not for the Childbirth.
 
Last edited:
Kohli or no kohli - your team is a joke overseas. I guess you should plan for an yeah long IPL [MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION]
 
It's modernism in a nutshell.

Kohli is in a tough spot here, the right decision is to stay on and fight for his team, which looks rudderless. But the modern world promotes a culture of selfishness and puts individual interest above collective values.

He will never reverse his decision, considering the person he's married to.
 
If Kohli leaves he will look like a coward. After a massive defeat like this he should be around to guide his comrades. India needs him more than ever.
 
Last Monetarist said:
It's modernism in a nutshell.

Kohli is in a tough spot here, the right decision is to stay on and fight for his team, which looks rudderless. But the modern world promotes a culture of selfishness and puts individual interest above collective values.

He will never reverse his decision, considering the person he's married to.
Click to expand...

What? You think that smacking some leather around is important than his child. Do you have children
 
He never really had his head in this series.

If he'd been taking it seriously he'd have played the warm-up match.

India need to rely upon players who want to be there, and who care.
 
May be Kohli should stay for the Toss ..,

Because when Kohli wins the toss .. team India NEVER looses ��
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Reminds me of that scene from the movie "Border" where a soldier(Sudesh Berry) ran away from his duty to be with his wife and family, Sunny Deol scolded him for that. He then came back, fought and gave his life away. Real question is who is going to be our Sunny Deol on this occasion? :inti
Click to expand...

Seems like Sunny Deol himself is going back :butt Border 2 cancelled :asif
 
Bewal Express said:
What? You think that smacking some leather around is important than his child. Do you have children
Click to expand...

Then he should quit Cricket forever and stay with his child 24/7 for lifetime because Children are important , right ? Why waste time smacking a leather when you can spend that quality time of a very short life with your kids instead ? You would understand that sentiment as you have children.
 
Kohli wants to be a good father be there for the birth of his child, remember the movie 'BIG FISH'

Just be happy for Kohli and respect his privacy, needless thread.
 
Bewal Express said:
What? You think that smacking some leather around is important than his child. Do you have children
Click to expand...

He's not the first cricketer in the world to have a child while away on tour. Cricket might just seem like a trivial sport to you, but its impact in the subcontinent on the well-being of a large portion of the public can't be comprehended by someone living in the UK. It's not comparable to a regular desk job.

I also expect self-sacrifice as an important attribute of strong leadership. Kohli has practically derailed the team's preparation for the whole series with the circus about his child being born. He should have left the tour altogether after the white ball leg and allowed the team to prepare with a clear head. It's been an awful distraction for the whole tour.
 
Last edited:
lol Isa put him a bit on the spot there by indirectly saying, Must be hard going back now...

In these kind of situations the people around him can make these kind of decisions easier for him. When Sachin left the WC after his Dad died, it was his mother who sent him back from Mumbai.

All Anushka has to do is say the word and Virat will stay in Aus. I don't care if some phony fraud-feminist supporters who have no clue what a feminist is or have never lived with one think - that this is once again picking on the woman and putting the onus on her.

But I doubt Anushka will do that and Virat is too egoistic to take the decision himself - he probably thinks it will be him giving in to the loud murmurs.

Think India will bounce back though.
 
I'm astonished any poster can suggest Kohli should stay and miss the birth of his child. Shocking. The birth of a child is one of the great precious moments in life.
 
Last Monetarist said:
He's not the first cricketer in the world to have a child while away on tour. Cricket might just seem like a trivial sport to you, but its impact on the subcontinent on the well-being of a large portion of the public can't be comprehended by someone living in the UK. It's not comparable to a regular desk job.

I also expect self-sacrifice as an important attribute of strong leadership. Kohli has practically derailed the team's preparation for the whole series with the circus about his child being born. He should have left the tour altogether after the white ball leg and allowed the team to prepare with a clear head. It's been an awful distraction for the whole tour.
Click to expand...

The people of the SC will need to grow up and realise that here are a million things more important.Cricket will go on and on, but your holding your child as they are born is unique.
 
Bewal Express said:
The people of the SC will need to grow up and realise that here are a million things more important.Cricket will go on and on, but your holding your child as they are born is unique.
Click to expand...
Agreed if someone’s well-being is linked with cricket then they really need to reevaluate their life.
 
They tour australia every other year , birth of a child is a special occasion and may come only once in a persons life.
 
Last Monetarist said:
It's modernism in a nutshell.

Kohli is in a tough spot here, the right decision is to stay on and fight for his team, which looks rudderless. But the modern world promotes a culture of selfishness and puts individual interest above collective values.

He will never reverse his decision, considering the person he's married to.
Click to expand...

Someone give this guy POTW. :bow:

You have captured what I wanted to say but couldn't put into words.

This mindset has soo deeply seeped into our culture that many have fallen hook, line and sinker for it.

Just look at the posts in this thread.

Yes it's his decision but looking at the comments you would think there's a life and death situation here and if he misses the birth of his child for an important assignment for his country, he has missed out on everything.

So raises 2 questions:

1. If Kohli withdraws from a WC final, is that ok?

2. Can armymen leave the same way in the middle of the battle? In their case, they might NEVER be able to see if their kids if they get killed so their case is FAR more legitimate?

I would be interested to see how many people say yes to the above 2 questions.
 
They have every right to be together especially if his wife needs him. Its not just about holding the child and celebrating that memory. It is also important to the wife to have her husband beside her at one of the most life changing moments one can possibly experience. And it's their decision to not spend it apart and neither should fans pressure him to.

If India is as good a team as they are made out to be, they can not possibly depend on one person entirely to be their savior. If that's their strategy than they need to build a better one. It will be hard without Kohli but one must be emphatic towards him too. God forbid if Kohli contracted Covid or some other unforseen circumstance occured, the team'd have rallied. They must and should now too.
 
It is not Kohli's fault if he is playing alongside bunch of lallu panjus who can't even bat, field and bowl properly even after playing International level IPL just before this series. Some fans are blaming Shaw and Saha for this but what is Rahane doing in this team? He should be kicked out of this team. He still bats like a noob after playing 65 tests.

Once Dhawan, Rohit and Kohli retires all Indian teams will enter in a rebuilding phase and none of the upcoming talents look like replacing these guys. :inti
 
Last edited:
Bewal Express said:
I am amazed its even being discussed.
Click to expand...

Just some people thinking that players are slaves for their entertainment. Let them vent, they don't matter anyway. A father will be going to attend a major life event, and a series will go on, while over entitled couch potatoes will remain irrelevant.
 
Mean&Green said:
Are you kidding me hell yes he should board the flight . The birth of your first child is way more important than a game cricket. Also anybody who says he's playing for his country or India etc that should never be the point it's not a war it's a sport that you can't leave it and go. I hate it when players don't go back home after one of their parents has passed away are you like kidding me I would never sacrifice a day like that even if it were the world Cup final like that is your blood and blood comes before sport at the end even if it's for your country it's a sport not a war so Kohli should totally go
Click to expand...

I agree to most of this. If I was in Kohli's position, I would definitely board that flight too.

However, I can also sympathize with those who do not go back because they know that this is their chance to start earning a decent living (International cricket) and supporting their family back home (someone like Naseem Shah who didn't travel when his mother passed). Someone else could take their spot and they would have no idea of when that opportunity will come again. They make that incredibly difficult decision to stay back, because they want to provide for the rest of the family.

Obviously, if you have the concept that earning comes from the Almighty, and it will come regardless of what may come, then these become non-issues, but not everyone perceives things through that particular perspective.
 
Bewal Express said:
If the guy was a day labourer, he would still be at his child's birth. Kohli is rich
Click to expand...

You are right. Kohli deserves to be with his wife and baby. But I am thinking of another scenario. Imagine this was the first test of India vs Pakistan series. How would fans from both countries have reacted then? I can imagine fans especially bhakhts would have called him a coward, traitor and abused his wife anushka also. I am also sure many politicians whose rozi roti depends on Pakistan would have also gave their opinions about this. Kohli would then have been pressurised by our fans not to leave the battlefield against Pakistan. :inti
 
Bewal Express said:
The people of the SC will need to grow up and realise that here are a million things more important.Cricket will go on and on, but your holding your child as they are born is unique.
Click to expand...

I just couldn’t agree more. The feeling of holding your new born in your arms for the first time is without a doubt the best feeling in the world. I wd sacrifice anything for that particular moment
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are right. Kohli deserves to be with his wife and baby. But I am thinking of another scenario. Imagine this was the first test of India vs Pakistan series. How would fans from both countries have reacted then? I can imagine fans especially bhakhts would have called him a coward, traitor and abused his wife anushka also. I am also sure many politicians whose rozi roti depends on Pakistan would have also gave their opinions about this. Kohli would then have been pressurised by our fans not to leave the battlefield against Pakistan. :inti
Click to expand...

That’s the down side of it .. I doubt whether Kohli wd hv left the tour mid way if it was against Pakistan.. India vs Pakistan is no less than a war and even more so under the current circumstances..
 
Imagining staying and getting bowled out for 40-70 runs again.

Jaa bhai jaa, jee le apni zindagi
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Someone give this guy POTW. :bow:

You have captured what I wanted to say but couldn't put into words.

This mindset has soo deeply seeped into our culture that many have fallen hook, line and sinker for it.

Just look at the posts in this thread.

Yes it's his decision but looking at the comments you would think there's a life and death situation here and if he misses the birth of his child for an important assignment for his country, he has missed out on everything.

So raises 2 questions:

1. If Kohli withdraws from a WC final, is that ok?

2. Can armymen leave the same way in the middle of the battle? In their case, they might NEVER be able to see if their kids if they get killed so their case is FAR more legitimate?

I would be interested to see how many people say yes to the above 2 questions.
Click to expand...

Mate, it was reading your post this morning in the match thread which forced me to be more open about this. You see how lots of folks are deliberately creating false equivalence by throwing in a sportsman's lot (the current Indian test captain, no less) with normal people and their careers, and anyone questioning that narrative is perceived as something depraved or inhuman. It honestly makes one despair.
 
Some things are more important than cricket. Besides if India bat the way they did today; Tendulkar, Lara and the ghost of Bradman wouldn't be able to save them.
 
We all know Kohli likes a good cry so the poor guy needs to be with his Mrs, at least when Australia whitewash India he can say it’s nothing to do with him!
 
No he shouldn't. He has all the right to be with his family irrespective of the team situation. We should all respect his decision of giving utmost priority to the family.
 
liam26 said:
Don't know what difference will it make if he meets his kid after a month or so. This has never happened before in Indian Cricket. Fans never realized when Cricketers married , who they married , when they had kids nobody made a fuss about going back in middle of the series. But in case of Kohli, his personal life from the time of his wedding, to Anushka getting pregnant and now the childbirth is always in the media.

Kohli is very conscious of his image and doesn't want to let go of an opportunity to be praised by the Media about what a great and ideal Husband and father he is, who quit series midway just to be with his wife , otherwise some tragedy could have happened in his absence.
Click to expand...
Agree with this. Talking strictly about Indian cricketers, so many of them have become fathers during their playing career, never have I ever heard any of them missing a single game, let alone missing 3 tests in an away series and that when your team which you've nurtured for years, desperately needs your presence.

Dhoni saw his daughter for the first time when she was 3 months old.
 
Pretty insensitive posting here. Methinks many of these posters do not have any kids
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are right. Kohli deserves to be with his wife and baby. But I am thinking of another scenario. Imagine this was the first test of India vs Pakistan series. How would fans from both countries have reacted then? I can imagine fans especially bhakhts would have called him a coward, traitor and abused his wife anushka also. I am also sure many politicians whose rozi roti depends on Pakistan would have also gave their opinions about this. Kohli would then have been pressurised by our fans not to leave the battlefield against Pakistan. :inti
Click to expand...

Virat Kohli once missed Asia Cup just to get some rest & missed 2 games against Pakistan . Here we are talking about his first child

Stop bringing politics everywhere !
 
No, he shouldnt. Indian fans call him names and try to bring his wife in a mocking manner in the conversation every possible time they can. For them Rohit is some ATG Captain who is being kept out LOL

Let the Indian fans be shown their aukat and get another reality check that Kohli is the only capable guy in their team. A one man army.
 
I think with Kohli departure Indiana side would perform worse than Pakistan. And yes Pakistan has some record of poor performances
 
NishanKonar said:
Virat Kohli once missed Asia Cup just to get some rest & missed 2 games against Pakistan . Here we are talking about his first child

Stop bringing politics everywhere !
Click to expand...

Obviously you do not understand the difference between a test series and a multi nation tournament. Get away. :inti
 
Slim said:
No, he shouldnt. Indian fans call him names and try to bring his wife in a mocking manner in the conversation every possible time they can. For them Rohit is some ATG Captain who is being kept out LOL

Let the Indian fans be shown their aukat and get another reality check that Kohli is the only capable guy in their team. A one man army.
Click to expand...

Exactly. This team is going to get exposed pretty badly now without Kohli. :inti
 
Here’s a guy who carried on playing a FC game despite his father dying overnight because he felt not completing a cricket game would be a sin. The man has clearly gone soft now if he can’t stay back for his team when they need him most. :yk
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Someone give this guy POTW. :bow:

You have captured what I wanted to say but couldn't put into words.

This mindset has soo deeply seeped into our culture that many have fallen hook, line and sinker for it.

Just look at the posts in this thread.

Yes it's his decision but looking at the comments you would think there's a life and death situation here and if he misses the birth of his child for an important assignment for his country, he has missed out on everything.

So raises 2 questions:

1. If Kohli withdraws from a WC final, is that ok?

2. Can armymen leave the same way in the middle of the battle? In their case, they might NEVER be able to see if their kids if they get killed so their case is FAR more legitimate?

I would be interested to see how many people say yes to the above 2 questions.
Click to expand...

On the other hand, this is a massive opportunity for Anushka to make a Bollywood movie out of her own story. Let the guy stay and fight for his country at a time of need....but then there is the danger of another embarrassing defeat, this would be highly risky and could destroy the Bollywood story plot.
 
Amirforpresident said:
Who is going to replace Kohli next match?
Click to expand...

The one and only...

klrahul171218_1.jpeg
 
Does India not have another youngster with then on tour, who has a good FC record? Might aswell play him.
 
He doesn't care. He has stopped caring a long long back. He is more worried about his brand value and PR after he became an all format captain in early 2017.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Someone give this guy POTW. :bow:

You have captured what I wanted to say but couldn't put into words.

This mindset has soo deeply seeped into our culture that many have fallen hook, line and sinker for it.

Just look at the posts in this thread.

Yes it's his decision but looking at the comments you would think there's a life and death situation here and if he misses the birth of his child for an important assignment for his country, he has missed out on everything.

So raises 2 questions:

1. If Kohli withdraws from a WC final, is that ok?

2. Can armymen leave the same way in the middle of the battle? In their case, they might NEVER be able to see if their kids if they get killed so their case is FAR more legitimate?

I would be interested to see how many people say yes to the above 2 questions.
Click to expand...

Cricket is a game and will always remain a game.Those lucky enough to earn a living from it are doing a job, they are not fighting a war. A World Cup final is important but will never be important as your child's birth because its not a matter of life and death. Soldiers leave the front line in a war is a matter of life and death.
 
Mesozoic said:
He doesn't care. He has stopped caring a long long back. He is more worried about his brand value and PR after he became an all format captain in early 2017.
Click to expand...

And you care more? What a terrible statement. You are confusing slowing down, which is a natural process as players get older with not caring.
 
He better go back, the way he is batting on this tour... It will help him and India if he goes back.

Kohli is very smart, no way he will stay to face the music this time around.
 
He better go back, the way he is batting on this tour... It will help him and India if he goes back.

Kohli is very smart, no way he will stay to face the music this time around.
 
Bewal Express said:
And you care more? What a terrible statement. You are confusing slowing down, which is a natural process as players get older with not caring.
Click to expand...

Okay. Let me rephrase my statement. He doesn't care enough about winning games for India to ignore the birth of his child.

Nothing to do with "slowing down". A 34 year old MSD didn't take paternity leave even when he was only about to miss a warm up game for the world cup 2015.
 
The calls for Colly to abandon his escape plans have grown louder due to being compounded with facts like he scored well in the first inning, and also by the fact that India lost badly.

Had he failed in 1st inning, or had India won/drew the match, people wouldn't have cared much about Colly's absence.

For me, Colly is a good batsman alright, but he is a disaster as a Captain, hence India shall feel his absence as a Batsman, but it's a blessing in disguise as far as Captaincy goes, as someone else shall be at the helm.

P.S: If India gets whitewashed, Colly shall be spared the axe, but I hope Bewda is kicked out, so he can spend his life doing what he loves, i.e being in an inebriated state mostly.

P.P.S: What's sad is that with Colly-Bewda Combo, there'll be no remorse or course correction after this debacle. I've already heard that Bewda is giving counters by saying that India was ahead in 5-6 sessions, & it was only an hour of poor play that costed his team the match :facepalm:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

C
Virat Kohli - How will Indian victory in Australia affect his influence and position as captain?
2
Replies
98
Views
5K
ManFan
ManFan
Slog
“Don’t jump the gun on Rahane; Still believe in his ability to be an impact player” : Virat Kohli
Replies
17
Views
1K
Suleiman
Suleiman
MenInG
‘The best player I’ve seen in my life’: Australia coach Justin Langer regarding Virat Kohli
2
Replies
90
Views
5K
sensible-indian-fan
sensible-indian-fan
Mamoon
The greatest Asian Test team of all time
12 13 14
Replies
1K
Views
80K
Devadwal
Devadwal
A
Virat Kohli back at Number 1 in ICC Test Batsman rankings after Trent Bridge heroics
Replies
24
Views
2K
Hasan123
Hasan123
Back
Top