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TheNightWatchman said:
I always compare Sachin and Kohli like MJ and Lebron
And Like Jordan says:You cannot determine a greater player cross generation. Bill Russel has won more championships than Jordan. Jack Nicklaus has won more majors than Tiger Woods. It's an unfair parallel when comparing across eras. Playing against different types of players, different tournaments, equipment technology. How Kohli would fare against Wasim and McGrath is pure conjecture. Same way how Sachin would fare against cricketers who are generally playing at top tier fitness levels and with the benefit of modern technology and strategies. is pure conjecture.
The only thing we can compare is how much impact each has had on the game they played. We can only say they are the greatest of their respective generations but comparing cross generations is always going to be difficult.
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Kohli's got that Jordan "I took it personally" and hypercompetitive win at all costs attitude though :jordan
 
ABD is a legend of the game and his legacy will be defined by test and ODI exploits. IPL is just like a cherry on the cake. He was already heading to greatness in 2012-13 when he was just like any other overseas batsman in IPL.

There are three four major cricket nations who haven't produced a batsman as good as ABD in last 30-40 years. Virat is obviously better than him though.
 
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Revealed! What Dan Christian said about RCB skipper Virat Kohli in deleted podcast

RCB all-rounder Dan Christian found himself in the midst of a controversy over his appearance in 'The Grade Cricketer' podcast. Here's what he had said about Virat Kohli in the deleted podcast.Royal Challengers Bangalore have done little wrong in the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021 on the field but the franchise met with a bit of a controversy off it. All-rounder Dan Christian was given a 'gentle reminder' for the podcast he had with an overseas publisher. While the video has now been deleted, many fans have been wondering as to whether it was the content of ‘The Grade Cricketer’ podcast that earned Christian an unofficial warning.

It has been learned that Christian had spoken about RCB skipper Virat Kohli and all-rounder Kyle Jamieson in the podcast. During the podcast, Christian spoke about the conversation Kohli and Jamieson had about the latter bowling to the Indian batsman with the Dukes ball but the Kiwi cricketer had refused.

“Pretty cagey from Virat actually, right in the first week we were here. The three of us were sitting down after the nets and these two were talking about Test cricket. “Virat said: ‘So Jamie (Kyle Jamieson) have you bowled much with the Dukes ball?’ and they are talking about that stuff.

“Jamie says: ‘Yeah, I have a couple of them here, I will have a bowl leading in before I go over there’ and Virat says ‘Oh, if you want to have a bowl against me in the nets, I am more than happy to face’. “Jamie was like, ‘No chance I am going to ball at you!’ He would have looked at his release point and everything that he does with the Dukes ball! (chuckles),” Christian revealed on the podcast.

In the podcast, Christian was also full of praise for AB de Villiers and revealed how humble the former South Africa skipper is.

“So AB (de Villiers) is the happiest, most humble… never got a bad word to say about anybody, will be there from start to finish. Maxi (Glenn Maxwell) is there from start to finish as well,” said Christian.

While there were reports that suggested that Christian was issued a warning for 'breach of contract', RCB later clarified that the veteran Aussie cricketer was only given a gentle reminder by the franchise over the interview.

“RCB issued a gentle reminder regarding the team’s media protocols to all their players recently (following Christian’s interview). Like every season, that note had been shared with the players before IPL 2021 as well. No official warning was issued to Dan Christian or any other individual player,” said the official.

On request of RCB and Christian, channel’s co-host Sam Perry deleted the video. “I was informed by Dan Christian that he has been issued a warning for breach of contract… Dan was asked to request us to take that interview down by RCB. On account of our respect for Dan and his contract, we have taken it down,” Perry had said.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/ipl/article/revealed-what-dan-christian-said-about-rcb-skipper-virat-kohli-in-deleted-podcast/751829
 
Ab Fan said:
ABD is a legend of the game and his legacy will be defined by test and ODI exploits. IPL is just like a cherry on the cake. He was already heading to greatness in 2012-13 when he was just like any other overseas batsman in IPL.

There are three four major cricket nations who haven't produced a batsman as good as ABD in last 30-40 years. Virat is obviously better than him though.
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His test, ODI exploits just aren't enough to be considered an ATG. A great batsman no doubt but his stats were definitely overinflated in the latter stages of his career. Where as Virat can be considered the greatest bat from his country, the same cannot be said for DeVilliers who's still below Kallis.
 
TheNightWatchman said:
His test, ODI exploits just aren't enough to be considered an ATG. A great batsman no doubt but his stats were definitely overinflated in the latter stages of his career. Where as Virat can be considered the greatest bat from his country, the same cannot be said for DeVilliers who's still below Kallis.
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Kohli is one of the greatest batsman of all-time but if he gets overshadowed every year in IPL by de Villiers, you have to give him credit. Doing better at one year can be understandable because of luck and bad form but doing it every year means we are talking about an extraordinary player.

ABD is not better than Kallis but he is better than any batsman Pakistan has produced ever and Pakistan has a good batting history with players like Miandad, Inzy and Younis so it is a huge achievement. Cheers!
 
AB is a better batsman than Kohli for sure, Kohli himself has admitted it.
 
Ab Fan said:
Kohli is one of the greatest batsman of all-time but if he gets overshadowed every year in IPL by de Villiers, you have to give him credit. Doing better at one year can be understandable because of luck and bad form but doing it every year means we are talking about an extraordinary player.

ABD is not better than Kallis but he is better than any batsman Pakistan has produced ever and Pakistan has a good batting history with players like Miandad, Inzy and Younis so it is a huge achievement. Cheers!
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ABD may be a legend but never in the ATG category; same with any other Pakistani bat. Miandad, YK are still better test batsman than devilliers was.
Overshadowing Kohli in a T20 league doesn't prove anything. Tests and ODIs will always be the bearing standard of excellence instead of smashing Manish Panday and Harsha Patel.
And again AB's lack of gun tournaments and smashing a weakened WI side will not put him in that greats category. Where as for Kohli you can make that argument. He's not even the 2nd best bat of this gen. That's Smith/Rohit
 
shah_1 said:
AB is a better batsman than Kohli for sure, Kohli himself has admitted it.
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Kohli is probably the only one who says that. Line up any cricket analyst and former cricketer and they will instantly say Kohli is the best of this generation. Even when AB was at the top of the rankings, it was Virat who was taking the world by storm. Impact matters
 
TheNightWatchman said:
ABD may be a legend but never in the ATG category; same with any other Pakistani bat. Miandad, YK are still better test batsman than devilliers was.
Overshadowing Kohli in a T20 league doesn't prove anything. Tests and ODIs will always be the bearing standard of excellence instead of smashing Manish Panday and Harsha Patel.
And again AB's lack of gun tournaments and smashing a weakened WI side will not put him in that greats category. Where as for Kohli you can make that argument. He's not even the 2nd best bat of this gen. That's Smith/Rohit
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Manish Pandey is not a bowler. He is a batsman in mould of Babar. :))

I agree with you that Rohit is a better bat than Miandad/YK if you say so.
 
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Ab Fan said:
Manish Pandey is not a bowler :))

I agree with you that Rohit is a better bat than Miandad/YK if you say so.
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Rohit is an LOI ATG already. He's far superceded any Indian LOI opener ever and is amongst the names of Gilly, Tendulkar. Ofcourse he's better than Miandad and YK in LOIs.
 
WTH!

Miandad, ABD and Younis are not ATGs and Rohit is an ATG and this is coming from a Pakistani poster??

This is gold comedy stuff :)))
 
TheNightWatchman said:
Kohli is probably the only one who says that. Line up any cricket analyst and former cricketer and they will instantly say Kohli is the best of this generation. Even when AB was at the top of the rankings, it was Virat who was taking the world by storm. Impact matters
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It is my opinion that AB is better
 
Ab Fan said:
WTH!

Miandad, ABD and Younis are not ATGs and Rohit is an ATG and this is coming from a Pakistani poster??

This is gold comedy stuff :)))
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Read my comment again. Rohit is an ATG LOI opener. His name is amongst the Gillys and Tendulkars. He's a better LOI bat than Sehwag, Gambhir, Ganguly or any other Indian opener.
As far as Miandad, YK, ABDv go, no they are not ATGs; legends yes. But they are much less likely to make an all time XI
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anushka and I have started a campaign on <a href="https://twitter.com/ketto?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ketto</a>, to raise funds for Covid-19 relief, and we would be grateful for your support. <br><br>Let’s all come together and help those around us in need of our support.<br><br>I urge you all to join our movement. <br><br>Link in Bio! &#55357;&#56911;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InThisTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InThisTogether</a> <a href="https://t.co/RjpbOP2i4G">pic.twitter.com/RjpbOP2i4G</a></p>— Virat Kohli (@imVkohli) <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli/status/1390532345753522180?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.ketto.org/fundraiser/inthistogether
 
7cr is big amount, this contribution is huge.
Even contribution for a single oxygen cylinder also an achievement during pandemic.
Only Morons can question.

Great job Kohli and his wife.
 
We are seeing this in selection: Former India all-rounder explains how Kohli's thinking ‘changed after Australia tour’

Reetinder Sodhi remarked that Kohli and the selectors, after the Australia tour, have started giving more weightage to bowlers who possess potent batting abilities.

India's tour of Australia witnessed some valuable knocks by Indian bowlers in testing conditions, something rarely seen in the past. Be it Shardul Thakur's 67 and Washington Sundar's 62 in the first innings in the Gabba Test or the rearguard action involving R. Ashwin in the Sydney Test, the lower order stepped up to help out with instrumental batting duties. According to former India cricketer Reetinder Singh Sodhi, those performances may have changed Virat Kohli's mindset regarding bowlers than can bat.

While speaking to India News, Sodhi remarked that Kohli and the selectors, after the Australia tour, have started giving more weightage to bowlers who possess potent batting abilities.

“I feel Virat Kohli's thinking changed after the Australia tour. The theory that if your bowler can bat has proved effective. If we talk about Washington Sundar and Ashwin's batting in Australia, I think they were pivotal there. They changed the match there and we created history. So, somewhere or the other we are seeing in this selection that the selectors have given weightage to the bowlers who can bat and are all-rounders,” Sodhi told India News.

While speaking about India's upcoming tour of England, Sodhi said India's key spinners will prove to be potent on English wickets.

“The way Ashwin has come back if we talk about his bowling. The way Axar Patel has given splendid performances against England, they have been recognised for their good performances. They all can prove to be aces in the pack because we all know that how potent our spinners can be on the England wickets,” said Sodhi.

India, in the near future, will travel to England for a long tour. They will first play New Zealand in the World Test Championship (WTC) final. Following that, Team India will lock horns with Joe Root and Co. in a 5-match Test series, which is scheduled for August-September 2021.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/virat-kohli-s-thinking-changed-after-australia-tour-reetinder-sodhi-says-more-weightage-given-to-bowlers-who-can-bat-101620620929862.html
 
Virat Kohli Donates Rs 6.77 Lakh For Treatment Of Former India All-Rounder's Mother


Former BCCI South Zone convenor N Vidya Yadav lauded Virat Kohli's great gesture after India skipper provided financial aid to ex-India all-rounder KS Sravanthi Naidu for the treatment of her COVID-19 positive mother.

Virat Kohli Donates Rs 6.77 Lakh For Treatment Of Former India All-Rounders Mother

Virat Kohli, who had started a campaign to help the country in the fight against COVID-19, came forward to financially help former India cricketer KS Sravanthi Naidu for the treatment of her mother by donating Rs 6.77 lakh. Sravanthi Naidu's mother had tested positive for coronavirus and ace doubles badminton player Jwala Gutta had tweeted, seeking financial aid for the former India all-rounder who has reportedly spent 16 lakhs for the treatment of her parents.

Former India and Hyderabad all rounder Sravanthi Naidu's parents r fighting Covid-19. She already spent Rs 16 lakh and is in urgent need for more funds for hospital expenses.
She needs our support sir
Pls help
— Gutta Jwala (@Guttajwala) May 17, 2021

Former BCCI South Zone convenor N Vidya Yadav, while speaking to Sportstar, said she was amazed at Kohli's "spontaneous gesture."

"Honestly, I was amazed at his spontaneous gesture. Such a great gesture from such a great cricketer," Vidya was quoted as saying by Sportstar.

She also thanked India fielding coach R Sridhar, who had tagged Virat Kohli and Hanuma Vihari in his tweet, seeking help for the former India all-rounder.

"I am also grateful to the Indian fielding coach R. Sridhar who also took up the issue with Kohli," she added.

Kohli and his wife Anushka Sharma raised more than 11 crore for their campaign to raise funds for Covid relief in the country.

The star couple started the campaign by donating Rs 2 crore themselves and urged others to "come together and help our India".

After exceeding the target of their fund-raiser, Kohli and Anushka posted a video on social media and thanked everyone who came forward and donated for the noble cause.

Kohli will soon travel to the UK for the upcoming World Test Championship final and the subsequent five-match Test series against England.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/virat-kohli-donates-rs-6-77-lakh-for-treatment-of-former-india-all-rounders-mother-2445518?pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories
 
'He is responsible for making India one of the best teams in the world': Richard Hadlee on Virat Kohli

Richard Hadlee termed Indian captain Virat Kohli as a ‘passionate and competitive’ cricketer who has a ‘strong desire’ to achieve success for himself as well as his team.

Legendary New Zealand fast bowler Richard Hadlee said that Virat Kohli is ‘responsible’ for ensuring the competitiveness in Indian cricket which makes them ‘one of the best teams in the world.’

Hadlee termed Kohli as a ‘passionate and competitive’ cricketer who has a ‘strong desire’ to achieve success for himself as well as his team.

"I see Virat as being a very passionate and competitive cricketer with a strong desire for himself and the team to succeed. He is a proud man and a world-class player -- a delight to watch. The pressure and expectations on him to 'win' is enormous.

“There are millions of Indian fans who idolize him which puts great pressure on him. Virat is responsible for ensuring that Indian cricket remains competitive and be one of the best teams in the world," Hadlee said in an official ICC media release.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?145864-Virat-Kohli-The-Mega-Discussion/page60&highlight=Kohli+mega
 
Team India captain Virat Kohli is going through an unusual patch in international cricket as his century drought is extended to over one and a half year. The talismanic batter has been in decent touch and consistently score 50-plus scores in all the formats.

Kohli has been one of the most prolific run-scorers in international cricket and before the century drought, he was known for his excellent conversion rate.

India will next play New Zealand in the final of the World Test Championship which will begin from June 18 in Southampton. A lot of eyes will be once again on captain Kohli to perform for India at a very big stage.

Former Pakistan captain Ramiz Raja, who is now a renowned cricket commentator, said that there is nothing to worry about as Kohli knows what he needs to do.

“What I have seen in his batting off late, he has been playing cross the line towards the leg side, breaking his wrist. If he maintains his position and plays straight and then plays his flicks, then it won’t be a problem anymore. However, he knows what he needs to do. So, there is nothing to worry about it,” Raja said on India News Sports.

“Sometimes you think much and put yourself under pressure of not getting runs or centuries. As long as he plays the first 20-25 over straight and doesn’t break his wrist very much, he can succeed in this [WTC Final] Test match,” he added.

Raja further gave his opinion on the World Test Championship window and want it to get cut short to six months where the teams play only red-ball cricket against each other.

“I think the World Test Championship should have been conducted in a completely different window. A six-month window during which teams could have played against each other. Other formats should not have been conducted in this window, because if you are keen to uplift the Test cricket, this type of window has to be created,” he said.

“The span of two years is quite long and people might forget who played against whom. The tournament has become interesting just because India is in the final. Had it been some other team playing New Zealand, there wouldn’t have been that much interest,” he signed off.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...aja-on-indian-skippers-century-drought-985932
 
OMB said:
We are seeing this in selection: Former India all-rounder explains how Kohli's thinking ‘changed after Australia tour’

Reetinder Sodhi remarked that Kohli and the selectors, after the Australia tour, have started giving more weightage to bowlers who possess potent batting abilities.

India's tour of Australia witnessed some valuable knocks by Indian bowlers in testing conditions, something rarely seen in the past. Be it Shardul Thakur's 67 and Washington Sundar's 62 in the first innings in the Gabba Test or the rearguard action involving R. Ashwin in the Sydney Test, the lower order stepped up to help out with instrumental batting duties. According to former India cricketer Reetinder Singh Sodhi, those performances may have changed Virat Kohli's mindset regarding bowlers than can bat.

While speaking to India News, Sodhi remarked that Kohli and the selectors, after the Australia tour, have started giving more weightage to bowlers who possess potent batting abilities.

“I feel Virat Kohli's thinking changed after the Australia tour. The theory that if your bowler can bat has proved effective. If we talk about Washington Sundar and Ashwin's batting in Australia, I think they were pivotal there. They changed the match there and we created history. So, somewhere or the other we are seeing in this selection that the selectors have given weightage to the bowlers who can bat and are all-rounders,” Sodhi told India News.

While speaking about India's upcoming tour of England, Sodhi said India's key spinners will prove to be potent on English wickets.

“The way Ashwin has come back if we talk about his bowling. The way Axar Patel has given splendid performances against England, they have been recognised for their good performances. They all can prove to be aces in the pack because we all know that how potent our spinners can be on the England wickets,” said Sodhi.

India, in the near future, will travel to England for a long tour. They will first play New Zealand in the World Test Championship (WTC) final. Following that, Team India will lock horns with Joe Root and Co. in a 5-match Test series, which is scheduled for August-September 2021.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/virat-kohli-s-thinking-changed-after-australia-tour-reetinder-sodhi-says-more-weightage-given-to-bowlers-who-can-bat-101620620929862.html
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England conditions .not equal to. Australia conditions.
Specialist skilled players > All Rounders
 
I wonder if we have already seen the peak of Kohli's career. Some players peak way early in their careers and are unable to maintain the same standards throughout. Tbh even Ponting became mortal in the last 4-5 years of his career where he averaged 39.

The guy has a lot of distractions too in his life i.e. being married to a Bollywood Starlet and now with a kid. After a while, your life is not necessarily completely your own anymore
 
Kohli is in the same spot mcgregor is at. A ton of money, no hunger for the game anymore. Kohli probably thinks hes the best ever and doesnt have anything else to achieve.
 
Sir-fraz said:
Kohli is in the same spot mcgregor is at. A ton of money, no hunger for the game anymore. Kohli probably thinks hes the best ever and doesnt have anything else to achieve.
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Kohli said he discussed with Williamson the philosophy of life and asked for advice on books on the topic before the WTC final.

Might retire and become a life coach at this rate.
 
street cricketer said:
Kohli said he discussed with Williamson the philosophy of life and asked for advice on books on the topic before the WTC final.

Might retire and become a life coach at this rate.
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Lol, dudes having a mid life crisis.. purpose to life, whatever you make it.
 
He looks to be going the Ricky Ponting route in the last 4/5 years of his career
 
8 golden ducks for Kohli - 4 have been against England.
 
Top 3 LOI batsman of all-time. Only behind Viv Richards and Sachin Tendulkar and at same level to AB de Villiers.

Among the top 15-20 test batsman of all-time.
 
Surprised at the sheer amount of burnol needed for the posters here … haters are gonna hate. The real Indian fans will always be with VK … he is us, we are him … take a walk haters….
 
Kohli is the Mohammed Ali of cricket. What does Kohli not have?

1. Talent
2. Fame
3. Overseas Test series victory as Kaptaan in Oz, Saf, Eng
4. Beautiful wife
5. Six pack
6. Removed Sachin and became the real God of India

He has everything so obviously there will be haters, just jealous of his huge success.
 
You know i was watching interview of mike tyson where he says that after some years he stopped caring about his belts amd trophies that he won because his priorities changed what he wanted to do now was to just stay with his children and wife and i guess thats exactly whats happening right now with kohli. I mean he has got a lot of money so he is not even gonna care of being dropped or retiring from cricket even at this age. Because he has so many businesses. And i think after these 2 t20 world cup he will say bye to t20 internationals (excluding ipl) and after 2023 50 world cup he will say bye to odi cricket and at the age of 36 he will retire (not sure about ipl though). Not everyone is sachin even with that kind of a fitness he will feel the heat around 35 age.
 
Kohli still has at least 3 years left in him, still too early to give up. With that being said, I saw his eyes after getting dismissed by Anderson, he is not the same batsman any more. Not sure if it's a mental issue or just reflex slowing down due to age.
 
Ravindra Jadeja credits Virat Kohli for improving fitness standards of Indian players

Star Indian all-rounder Ravindra Jadeja credited Indian skipper Virat Kohli for improving the fitness standards of the team.

Indian all-rounder Ravindra Jadeja remains to be one of the best all-rounders in world cricket. In the last few years, Jadeja has also improved upon his batting and has excelled in all three formats of the game. But one of Jadeja's biggest strengths is his fielding and it's a treat to watch him on the field.

From taking tough catches to producing direct-hit run-outs from impossible angles, Jadeja has done it all. He also remains to be one of the fittest cricketers around.

Speaking to TimesofIndia.com, Jadeja said shared the secret behind him being one of the best fielders in world cricket.

"Yes, I am one of the best fielders in the world. But I don’t take anything for granted, I keep working on my game and my fitness. I do a lot of shoulder exercises and running for that, for instance. That’s how I maintain my fitness, which helps me on the field," Jadeja told TimesofIndia.com.

Team India is led by Virat Kohli - who has transformed himself through fitness and it has also rubbed upon his teammates as fitness is now an important parameter for selection in the Indian team.

Jadeja also credited Kohli for improving the fitness standards of the players as he said, "Virat definitely has been very enthusiastic, proactive, and fit. He believes a lot in fitness as well, so everyone has to raise their fielding standards. Everyone in the team has been working on their fitness, that’s why you can see the difference on the field now."

Jadeja was included in the first Test against England ahead of Ravichandran Ashwin - who has been in sublime form for Team India in whites lately. The left-handed batsman played a crucial role for the team as he scored crucial 56 runs while batting lower down the order. India were in control of the proceedings in the first Test but the match ended in a draw after the fifth day was entirely washed away due to rain.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/ravindra-jadeja-credits-virat-kohli-for-improving-fitness-standards-of-indian-players/798100
 
[MENTION=151307]King_Kohli[/MENTION] -

Since you are a big Kohli fan, where you think he is going wrong since there are no centuries for past 2 years?

What does he need to do to turn it around in your opinion?

Do you think he will ever come back to his absolute best like he was in 2016?
 
Rajdeep said:
[MENTION=151307]King_Kohli[/MENTION] -

Since you are a big Kohli fan, where you think he is going wrong since there are no centuries for past 2 years?

What does he need to do to turn it around in your opinion?

Do you think he will ever come back to his absolute best like he was in 2016?
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O common 2016 was something else even 2018 is difficult
But i guess he will still end up with 80 centuries max no chance of breaking sachin record
But if he leaves ipl and t20i and only focus on test cricket and odi then i can bet he will end up with 100+ centuries and might also play till 38
 
If Kohli gives up his captaincy, he will be back to its best. At the moment, he seems to be overburdened with captaincy and it is affecting his game too.

Rohit should take up the LOI captaincy and KL should be groomed as a test captain. This will bring back the best of Kohli as batsman and he can replicate the stuffs which SRT did between 2007-11.
 
Rajdeep said:
[MENTION=151307]King_Kohli[/MENTION] -

Since you are a big Kohli fan, where you think he is going wrong since there are no centuries for past 2 years?

What does he need to do to turn it around in your opinion?

Do you think he will ever come back to his absolute best like he was in 2016?
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I feel he should play tour practice matches, he is always playing tests without playing a single practice match. Second thing is he looks so relaxed after marriage.

He will come back for sure but he won't touch 2016/18 peak.
Last two years ODI avg is 45, also he is doing well in T20's. He is only struggling in Test format.

Just a matter of time when he jumps in the air again to celebrate another achievement.

I will be very happy even if he end up 80 centuries.
 
King_Kohli said:
I feel he should play tour practice matches, he is always playing tests without playing a single practice match. Second thing is he looks so relaxed after marriage.

He will come back for sure but he won't touch 2016/18 peak.
Last two years ODI avg is 45, also he is doing well in T20's. He is only struggling in Test format.

Just a matter of time when he jumps in the air again to celebrate another achievement.

I will be very happy even if he end up 80 centuries.
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What about his vegan diet. I am too not much into chicken and meat. I feel since his vegan diet he is not the same player.
 
 
Looks set for a big score in this innings, took his time to get set but the England team will be feeling worried now.
 
Missed a chance for a big hundred?

Robinson to Kohli, out Caught by Root!! This time Kohli's edge has carried to the slips. Kohli c Root b Robinson 42(103) [4s-3]

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Looks set for a big score in this innings, took his time to get set but the England team will be feeling worried now.
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He missed a great chance to improve his average in England.

Too bottom handed for tests imo but of course he will still score the odd 100.
 
Kohli looks out of form to me, low on confidence, and his batting style does not seem to particularly suit the English conditions.

The two extremely impressive and robust opening batsmen seem to be carrying India’s lineup at the moment.
 
Kohli time is over. His peak years was regressed quickly..Time to move on from him..Centuries making difficult for him now.Two and half year no centuries in any format says it all..
 
Yesterday was the best time to score a century tbh. Tired bowlers and a well set batsman on the other side to give him the confidence and the time he needed, with the ball not doing much.

I still feel he will get a century in this series, if he doesn’t then something is wrong
 
His career hundred tally is not a problem but the problem is lack of consistency. Root these days is batting at a different level to him.
 
MP2011 said:
More than form and confidence, I think his hunger to do well for India is totally gone which is a far serious issue than anything else as he is still our captain in all formats till foreseeable future.

If in his mind he thinks he has achieved it all then it's a really dangerous territory he is in.

Rather than him, it reflects far more poorly on BCCI for not having guts to fire him, neither for us beings duds under him for quite some now, nor for his own miserable batting form.
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One more poor year in 2022 and I am sure that BCCI will start sending signals.
But in all fairness, ego or no ego, Kohli is still a performance beast if he regains his form. Just needs some motivation (challenge).
 
OMB said:
One more poor year in 2022 and I am sure that BCCI will start sending signals.
But in all fairness, ego or no ego, Kohli is still a performance beast if he regains his form. Just needs some motivation (challenge).
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If he regains form....

Well we have been waiting for more than 2 years now for him to regain his form.

As for him needing motivation, wasn't WTC final enough of motivation for him or these England tests? Just asking....

When will that motivation arrive?
 
I don't understand why everyone wants kohli to be stripped from captaincy. India has had a brilliant couple of years in test cricket and his captaincy has to be credited. Combined with culture of fitness and playing 5 bowlers he has not done much wrong

Coming to his batting form, it's evident it's gone down. Looking at his innings it feels like he wants to tone down on shot making and play some attritional cricket for a while.
All it takes is one innings and he will be back.
 
For the Tendulkar fanatics here whose sole motivation is to somehow big up Tendu and put others down.
Lets see what were Sachin's stats in one out of his many slumps.

His ending

2 years 2012-2013
Played 15 matches averaged 27 with the bat and still went on to play a series vs WI just to get to 200 tests.

2 full years 2005- 2006
Played 17 matches averaged 31 on relatively flatter tracks than the ones Kohli plays on.

The less said about his starting period the better.

I expect atleast Sachin fans to realise that a player can have a one or two year slump when he had so many throughout his career.
Even Root was struggling before 2020, same goes for Williamson.

I can't recall any test ATG apart from Steve Smith who didn't have a one or two year slump in his career, it's as common as it gets.
 
MP2011 said:
If he regains form....

Well we have been waiting for more than 2 years now for him to regain his form.

As for him needing motivation, wasn't WTC final enough of motivation for him or these England tests? Just asking....

When will that motivation arrive?
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I said one more poor year in 2022, most probably Kohli should regain his form before that.
if not, then BCCI will start sending signals. His motivation (challenge) will come in the form of another player (challenger) to the throne.
As of now, no one from Rohit, Rahul, Rahane, Ashwin or Pant can replace Kohli unless he steps down from the position himself.
 
He is still the best all- format batsman of his generation. It just puts into context how tough it is to maintain greatness across all formats.

The only batters to be able to do it are :-

1. Viv
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
4. Kohli
5. ABD

End of list. These are the five greatest batsman in last 50 years. The Bevans, Dhonis etc are one trick pony compared to them.
 
MP2011 said:
It is indeed unbelievable that the only bowler who looked remotely threatening on that green pitch in WTC final isn't played even once in this series.

Bunch of Muppets we have masquerading as our think tank.
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next what? Rahane and pujara did not perform, so you suggest to remove them from team.
ashwin may or may not have performed. its a 50 50 choice. Jadeja has not done bad. And it's only the second test.
 
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Virat Kohli since his last 100...
10 Tests, 17 inns, 407 runs, ave 23.94, 50s: 3 (HS 74)
15 ODIs, 15 inns, 649 runs, ave 43.26, 50s: 8 (HS 89)
18 T20Is, 17 inns, 709 runs, ave 64.45, 50s: 6 (HS 94*)

He hasn't done anything in last 2 years of test cricket.
 
Most consecutive innings without a century for Kohli

49 (2019/2021)*
25 (2014)
24 (2011)
 
Indian Captains to win most Tests in SENA

5* - Kohli
3 - Dhoni
2 - Pataudi
2 - ** Bedi
2 - Dravid
 
Asian Captains with Most Wins in SENA Countries

5 - Virat Kohli*
4 - Javed Miandad
4 - Wasim Akram
3 - MS Dhoni
3 - Misbah-ul-haq
3 - Mushtaq Mohammed
3 - MAK Pataudi
 
Virat Kohli goes past Clive Lloyd's 36 wins as captain in 11 fewer Tests. Only Graeme Smith (53), Ricky Ponting (48) and Steve Waugh (41) are ahead of him in terms of the number of Test wins

Captains with most Test wins:
53 Graeme Smith
48 Ricky Ponting
41 Steve Waugh
37* Virat Kohli
36 Clive Lloyd
 
Sachin at 37 was playing masterclass knocks vs peak Steyn at Centurion and Cape Town while Kohli at 32 already looking like a Masters T20 league player. Levels.
 
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Anderson very happy!
 
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street cricketer said:
Sachin at 37 was playing masterclass knocks vs peak Steyn at Centurion and Cape Town while Kohli at 32 already looking like a Masters T20 league player. Levels.
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Tendulkar played against much tougher competition in tougher conditions. There really is no comparison. He also did not benefit from having quality bowlers in his ranks in the 90's, early 2000's vs Kohli where a lot of his knocks, efforts with the bat would have translated into big wins.
 
I thought Dhoni had a vice-like grip over BCCI. It seems Kohli trumps even him.
 
street cricketer said:
Sachin at 37 was playing masterclass knocks vs peak Steyn at Centurion and Cape Town while Kohli at 32 already looking like a Masters T20 league player. Levels.
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Forget Sachin even Dravid at the age of 35+ played great innings against Broad and Anderson.
 
How simply people write off kohli as he's done and dusted with his career

Yes he has slowed down but lad is far from finished and will score a lot more
 
Protea Fan said:
How simply people write off kohli as he's done and dusted with his career

Yes he has slowed down but lad is far from finished and will score a lot more
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If you keep playing you will of course score.

Kohli always had a poor average in England. The home of cricket is where you prove your batting skills. Kohli simply isnt a great test batsmen, he's good nothing more.
 
Kohli is still the best Indian captain, even Ganguly couldn't win a series in Australia, Kohli won it twice and will win it in England :kohli

Best subcontinental player of the decade
 
KingKhanWC said:
If you keep playing you will of course score.

Kohli always had a poor average in England. The home of cricket is where you prove your batting skills. Kohli simply isnt a great test batsmen, he's good nothing more.
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Kohli is great, just not all time great in tests. He is still good enough to be picked in all time India XI.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Kohli is still the best Indian captain, even Ganguly couldn't win a series in Australia, Kohli won it twice and will win it in England :kohli

Best subcontinental player of the decade
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The teams that Ganguly was up against were much stronger than the teams Kohli has faced in Australia
 
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