Wasim Akram's cowardly silence on the Karachi Kings debacle in PSL 7

[Savak]

So far it is Babar who is coping most of the flak in the media and among ex players but what about the person who was the main man involved at the draft and is the man who is apparently responsible for the cricketing side of things at KK as the President of KK? He is apparently the person who gets paid the highest at KK on their payroll.

Wasim in the past in interviews has always advocated the approach that the players and captains should take the credit and face the press when things go right and the coaches should protect the players and face the media, critics whenever the team loses.

So far he is no where to be seen. Not a single statement defending the team or responding to the public. How about deflecting some criticism from the captain Babar who is already under pressure, Wasim?

What was the planning, strategy behind the players picked?

Any franchise in the ipl would have shown people the door for the display put up by KK but as usual Salman Iqbal will put his personal relationship with Wasim Akram first and keep him on the payroll indefinitely for future seasons as well

 

[cricketerB94]

To be honest, Wasim Akram is not the one who is responsible for this debacle. He is the president of the franchise, he can advise about hiring coaches and captains and other managerial things. The team is prepared by the coach and captain.

He was at the draft does not mean that he was the in-charge of selecting players. I doubt that he would even know about the current overseas players who are performing well or the local players who are not part of the national team. Babar and Moores were announced as captain and coach well before the draft and I am sure that they were in-charge of selecting the team. This is also evident from the selection because when we see at the overseas picks, we see Nabi and Clarke who were their match winners previously. Then they have some no-name county players which can be the recommendation of Moores. Babar selected the local players if KK does not have any scout because I doubt if Wasim would have any knowledge about local players who are not part of the national team. So I don't see any involvement of Wasim Akram there.

I think we should all just agree to the fact that there are better captains available even in KK team and Wasim is just as shocked as we all are with this performance of KK. Because whatever the team is, there should be some winning intent. But there is no intent in that team. I mean Babar is the captain, he should know that at what position a player played when he got the domestic performer of the year award. But it just seems like he do not want to give any chances to him due to insecurities may be.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

To be honest, Wasim Akram is not the one who is responsible for this debacle. He is the president of the franchise, he can advise about hiring coaches and captains and other managerial things. The team is prepared by the coach and captain.

He was at the draft does not mean that he was the in-charge of selecting players. I doubt that he would even know about the current overseas players who are performing well or the local players who are not part of the national team. Babar and Moores were announced as captain and coach well before the draft and I am sure that they were in-charge of selecting the team. This is also evident from the selection because when we see at the overseas picks, we see Nabi and Clarke who were their match winners previously. Then they have some no-name county players which can be the recommendation of Moores. Babar selected the local players if KK does not have any scout because I doubt if Wasim would have any knowledge about local players who are not part of the national team. So I don't see any involvement of Wasim Akram there.

I think we should all just agree to the fact that there are better captains available even in KK team and Wasim is just as shocked as we all are with this performance of KK. Because whatever the team is, there should be some winning intent. But there is no intent in that team. I mean Babar is the captain, he should know that at what position a player played when he got the domestic performer of the year award. But it just seems like he do not want to give any chances to him due to insecurities may be.

What is his exact role as president?

Savak mentioned in another thread that he is getting 300k a year but for doing what?

He shares a greater level of blame than Peter Moores imo.

 

[Savak]

To be honest, Wasim Akram is not the one who is responsible for this debacle. He is the president of the franchise, he can advise about hiring coaches and captains and other managerial things. The team is prepared by the coach and captain.

He was at the draft does not mean that he was the in-charge of selecting players. I doubt that he would even know about the current overseas players who are performing well or the local players who are not part of the national team. Babar and Moores were announced as captain and coach well before the draft and I am sure that they were in-charge of selecting the team. This is also evident from the selection because when we see at the overseas picks, we see Nabi and Clarke who were their match winners previously. Then they have some no-name county players which can be the recommendation of Moores. Babar selected the local players if KK does not have any scout because I doubt if Wasim would have any knowledge about local players who are not part of the national team. So I don't see any involvement of Wasim Akram there.

I think we should all just agree to the fact that there are better captains available even in KK team and Wasim is just as shocked as we all are with this performance of KK. Because whatever the team is, there should be some winning intent. But there is no intent in that team. I mean Babar is the captain, he should know that at what position a player played when he got the domestic performer of the year award. But it just seems like he do not want to give any chances to him due to insecurities may be.

What is Wasim doing in the dugout and the training, practice sessions then? This posts sounds like it came from Wasims Business or PR manager

 

[cricketerB94]

What is his exact role as president?

Savak mentioned in another thread that he is getting 300k a year but for doing what?

He shares a greater level of blame than Peter Moores imo.

What is Wasim doing in the dugout and the training, practice sessions then? This posts sounds like it came from Wasims Business or PR manager

Wasim is the in-charge of overall operations of the franchise. He does not have a specific role to micromanage a specific department. He hired a coach who is well-known in county and previously worked with national teams. He hired a captain who is the all-format captain of Pakistan. I believe that he has to oversee the match preparations by players and coach and report every thing at the end of the tournament to the franchise owner. In other words, he is the eyes and ears of KK owner in the team because the owner cannot be with the franchise all the time.

I am not any PR manager for anyone. I am just stating the logic here. If a team performs badly, the responsible personalities are captain, coaches and selectors. Never heard a president being responsible for a team's bad performance. It's like saying Sameen Rana was responsible for LQ's bad performance in earlier seasons instead of Aqib Javed or Captain or players, because Sameen was the manager of LQ team. Yes, Wasim has a cricketing background, but I doubt if he knows any player currently who does not play for their national team so the overseas input was clearly from Moores.

 

[Savak]

Wasim is the in-charge of overall operations of the franchise. He does not have a specific role to micromanage a specific department. He hired a coach who is well-known in county and previously worked with national teams. He hired a captain who is the all-format captain of Pakistan. I believe that he has to oversee the match preparations by players and coach and report every thing at the end of the tournament to the franchise owner. In other words, he is the eyes and ears of KK owner in the team because the owner cannot be with the franchise all the time.

I am not any PR manager for anyone. I am just stating the logic here. If a team performs badly, the responsible personalities are captain, coaches and selectors. Never heard a president being responsible for a team's bad performance. It's like saying Sameen Rana was responsible for LQ's bad performance in earlier seasons instead of Aqib Javed or Captain or players, because Sameen was the manager of LQ team. Yes, Wasim has a cricketing background, but I doubt if he knows any player currently who does not play for their national team so the overseas input was clearly from Moores.

So he is being paid $300,000 for the season for just being the eyes and years of the owner. He hired a coach who has proven to be a disaster so far for the franchise and Wasims presence in the camp has made little difference to uplift the fortunes of the Franchise. Is he responsible or going to be accountable for anything?

Some reporters are now reporting that Wasim was unhappy with the decision to replace Imad as captain with Babar. Why is Wasim not coming out to defend the team from the volume of criticism especially the captain? Should he not be the big elder statesman and shield the captain from onslaught from the media and ex players for a disastrous season?

 

[cricketerB94]

So he is being paid $300,000 for the season for just being the eyes and years of the owner. He hired a coach who has proven to be a disaster so far for the franchise and Wasims presence in the camp has made little difference to uplift the fortunes of the Franchise. Is he responsible or going to be accountable for anything?

Some reporters are now reporting that Wasim was unhappy with the decision to replace Imad as captain with Babar. Why is Wasim not coming out to defend the team from the volume of criticism especially the captain? Should he not be the big elder statesman and shield the captain from onslaught from the media and ex players for a disastrous season?

If the franchise owner is happy to pay him that amount for his job, then who are you or me to whinge about that? He is accountable to the owner, not you or me or the general public as it's not some kind of tax money that he is getting. I mean a lot of players earn more than a million of $$ in IPL just to sit on the bench? Should we start whinging about that and their role as well?

 

[hitthestump]

I guess this explains why Wasim never got involved in any coaching or official posts with the PCB.

He either isn't cut out for it as seen by his poor work at the PSL.

Or he's wise enough to stay away from ungrateful fan base who'll call him a coward.

 

[cricketerB94]

He is a big enough name in cricket that only his association with a cricket franchise can increase the brand value of that franchise. That's why he gets this president role (previously with IU and MS, now with KK) where he does not need to do a lot of practical work. A win-win situation for him and the franchise. That is why I don't see any role of him in any practicalities of the team like selecting the team or playing 11 or designing tactics e.t.c.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Wasim is the in-charge of overall operations of the franchise. He does not have a specific role to micromanage a specific department. He hired a coach who is well-known in county and previously worked with national teams. He hired a captain who is the all-format captain of Pakistan. I believe that he has to oversee the match preparations by players and coach and report every thing at the end of the tournament to the franchise owner. In other words, he is the eyes and ears of KK owner in the team because the owner cannot be with the franchise all the time.

I am not any PR manager for anyone. I am just stating the logic here. If a team performs badly, the responsible personalities are captain, coaches and selectors. Never heard a president being responsible for a team's bad performance. It's like saying Sameen Rana was responsible for LQ's bad performance in earlier seasons instead of Aqib Javed or Captain or players, because Sameen was the manager of LQ team. Yes, Wasim has a cricketing background, but I doubt if he knows any player currently who does not play for their national team so the overseas input was clearly from Moores.

I believe his role is similar to the 'director of football' role in modern football.

He is responsible for strategy, shaping a team identity, long term team building and as you have mentioned he liases with the owner.

Had KK had a poor season then we could lay the blame on how the coach and captain executed the strategy and it would give him more time.

However when a team loses so abysmally then there is rightfully scrutiny on the guy that brought in the personnel who are failing and on what the overall strategy was.

I'm sorry, but to me his position is untenable.

 

[Major]

they deserve it.

One thing is found hilarious was the promo video they made. KARACHI KARACHI, showing big banners of Amir, Babar and Imad

oh how they are losing, karachi fans deserve it.. They used to troll Lahore and now lookk.

Anyways, yes the team is answerable to the fans.

Bhai everyone from PCB to Imran Khan is to be blamed, whether you guys like it or not. It was non of Imrans business that he got Azhar Ali removed as captain and Babar's name was proposed only because Babar plays beautiful cover drives. Babar was never captain material. Misbah had to listen to the stupid idea and had to accept it. During the first test series PCB was furious what Babar was doing....

Its ridiculous that you have to hear statement that Babar is improving as captain day by day. Oh bhai that shows he isnt cut out for captaincy at international level.

Anyways, 2021 happens, we get impressed by the World T20, and everyone thinks it was Babars captaincy brilliance. We mix up good batting with good captaincy. Babar than gets made captain of Karachi kings, and you have the results infront of you.

Eventually, Babar is gonna be removed from international cricket as captain, but when making that decision there will be a lot of back lash. It was premature to give him the captaincy..

Now that Rizwan, Shaheen and Shadab have emerged, everyone is regretting. Misbah atleast left Shadab as vice captain for t20s as he had an idea about him.


In Cricket a captain has more charge, and Babar will be blamed for the shambolic performance of his team especially what happened today.

Karachi Kings can make either of the decisions to fix the mess.

1. Remove Babar Azam as captain and give it back to Imad Waseem. This could lead to backlash from fans if we end up winning the world t20 under him. But Salman Iqbal will have to see if by keeping babar as captain he is making money or by removing him and getting Imad who will win and improve the brand of KK.

or

2. Trade Babar away in the drafts, get someone equally good and make Imad captain. This could might aswell lead to backash.

While PSL trades are terrible (azam for ifti lol), but the best trade that can happen is Babar for Shaheen.

Lahore would happily take Babar Azam and give away anyone they have. Babar is the pride of Lahore. Karachi Kings can pounce on Shaheen and make their bowling better

 

[cricketerB94]

I believe his role is similar to the 'director of football' role in modern football.

He is responsible for strategy, shaping a team identity, long term team building and as you have mentioned he liases with the owner.

Had KK had a poor season then we could lay the blame on how the coach and captain executed the strategy and it would give him more time.

However when a team loses so abysmally then there is rightfully scrutiny on the guy that brought in the personnel who are failing and on what the overall strategy was.

I'm sorry, but to me his position is untenable.

OK. For what it's worth, I don't care about his position either and I believe that KK needs a complete overhauls in next season. Wasim should be accountable to the owner but I don't think that the owner is going to let Wasim go anywhere else. I believe that Wasim has a very high level job in the owner's new channel (A sports) as well so their relationship will continue.

 

[cricketerB94]

they deserve it.

One thing is found hilarious was the promo video they made. KARACHI KARACHI, showing big banners of Amir, Babar and Imad

oh how they are losing, karachi fans deserve it.. They used to troll Lahore and now lookk.

Anyways, yes the team is answerable to the fans.

Bhai everyone from PCB to Imran Khan is to be blamed, whether you guys like it or not. It was non of Imrans business that he got Azhar Ali removed as captain and Babar's name was proposed only because Babar plays beautiful cover drives. Babar was never captain material. Misbah had to listen to the stupid idea and had to accept it. During the first test series PCB was furious what Babar was doing....

Its ridiculous that you have to hear statement that Babar is improving as captain day by day. Oh bhai that shows he isnt cut out for captaincy at international level.

Anyways, 2021 happens, we get impressed by the World T20, and everyone thinks it was Babars captaincy brilliance. We mix up good batting with good captaincy. Babar than gets made captain of Karachi kings, and you have the results infront of you.

Eventually, Babar is gonna be removed from international cricket as captain, but when making that decision there will be a lot of back lash. It was premature to give him the captaincy..

Now that Rizwan, Shaheen and Shadab have emerged, everyone is regretting. Misbah atleast left Shadab as vice captain for t20s as he had an idea about him.


In Cricket a captain has more charge, and Babar will be blamed for the shambolic performance of his team especially what happened today.

Karachi Kings can make either of the decisions to fix the mess.

1. Remove Babar Azam as captain and give it back to Imad Waseem. This could lead to backlash from fans if we end up winning the world t20 under him. But Salman Iqbal will have to see if by keeping babar as captain he is making money or by removing him and getting Imad who will win and improve the brand of KK.

or

2. Trade Babar away in the drafts, get someone equally good and make Imad captain. This could might aswell lead to backash.

While PSL trades are terrible (azam for ifti lol), but the best trade that can happen is Babar for Shaheen.

Lahore would happily take Babar Azam and give away anyone they have. Babar is the pride of Lahore. Karachi Kings can pounce on Shaheen and make their bowling better

Lahore is never going to give away Shaheen and Rauf to any franchise. They have invested a lot in these players and they will keep them as their main players. They have even made Shaheen the captain to make sure that he stays in LQ for long. If Babar keeps playing like the way he has played in this season of PSL, he may drop from the platinum category in the upcoming seasons.

Also I heard that there are going to be 1 or 2 more franchises in next season, so a fresh start for Babar with a new team may change his fortunes in the PSL.

 

[Major]

Lahore is never going to give away Shaheen and Rauf to any franchise. They have invested a lot in these players and they will keep them as their main players. They have even made Shaheen the captain to make sure that he stays in LQ for long. If Babar keeps playing like the way he has played in this season of PSL, he may drop from the platinum category in the upcoming seasons.

Also I heard that there are going to be 1 or 2 more franchises in next season, so a fresh start for Babar with a new team may change his fortunes in the PSL.

The franchise care for investment interms of branding and marketing. You offer Babar to LQ and they will even give both Harris Rauf and Shaheen for him. Babar Azam is a big thing in Lahore. The guy is a star there.
You get him to Lahore, the Lahore Qalnders would be making money and will milk babars brand.

Its like how Javed Afridi milked Afridi at Peshawar as he is loved by the people there.

Same way lahoris love this kid and would be crazy if they get him. When they had Umar Akmal there was alot of hype as Umar Akmal is the product of Lahore, Babar is Babar.

Shaheen has been made captain, but Shaheen isnt really the face of Lahore. Lahore can build their brand around him but the value they will get from babar is great than what they get off of Rauf or Shaheen.

 

[Savak]

Lahore is never going to give away Shaheen and Rauf to any franchise. They have invested a lot in these players and they will keep them as their main players. They have even made Shaheen the captain to make sure that he stays in LQ for long. If Babar keeps playing like the way he has played in this season of PSL, he may drop from the platinum category in the upcoming seasons.

Also I heard that there are going to be 1 or 2 more franchises in next season, so a fresh start for Babar with a new team may change his fortunes in the PSL.

The PCB signed new terms with the Franchises where they have agreed to give away 95% of the Central Pool to the Franchises and no new Franchises till PSL 10. So there will be no new PSL teams for the next 3 years

 

[arif_2021]

they deserve it.

One thing is found hilarious was the promo video they made. KARACHI KARACHI, showing big banners of Amir, Babar and Imad

oh how they are losing, karachi fans deserve it.. They used to troll Lahore and now lookk.

Anyways, yes the team is answerable to the fans.

Bhai everyone from PCB to Imran Khan is to be blamed, whether you guys like it or not. It was non of Imrans business that he got Azhar Ali removed as captain and Babar's name was proposed only because Babar plays beautiful cover drives. Babar was never captain material. Misbah had to listen to the stupid idea and had to accept it. During the first test series PCB was furious what Babar was doing....

Its ridiculous that you have to hear statement that Babar is improving as captain day by day. Oh bhai that shows he isnt cut out for captaincy at international level.

Anyways, 2021 happens, we get impressed by the World T20, and everyone thinks it was Babars captaincy brilliance. We mix up good batting with good captaincy. Babar than gets made captain of Karachi kings, and you have the results infront of you.

Eventually, Babar is gonna be removed from international cricket as captain, but when making that decision there will be a lot of back lash. It was premature to give him the captaincy..

Now that Rizwan, Shaheen and Shadab have emerged, everyone is regretting. Misbah atleast left Shadab as vice captain for t20s as he had an idea about him.


In Cricket a captain has more charge, and Babar will be blamed for the shambolic performance of his team especially what happened today.

Karachi Kings can make either of the decisions to fix the mess.

1. Remove Babar Azam as captain and give it back to Imad Waseem. This could lead to backlash from fans if we end up winning the world t20 under him. But Salman Iqbal will have to see if by keeping babar as captain he is making money or by removing him and getting Imad who will win and improve the brand of KK.

or

2. Trade Babar away in the drafts, get someone equally good and make Imad captain. This could might aswell lead to backash.

While PSL trades are terrible (azam for ifti lol), but the best trade that can happen is Babar for Shaheen.

Lahore would happily take Babar Azam and give away anyone they have. Babar is the pride of Lahore. Karachi Kings can pounce on Shaheen and make their bowling better

This is a cringeworthy post.

Aazhar Ali, the 44 year old father of a teenager - extremely unfit as a captain who lost 3-0 to bangaldesh is being compared with Babar Azam's team that has won a series against SA, drew against WI, beat Bdesh and beat India 152-0 in the all important T-20 world cup...

Secondly, at international level, Babar Azam carried Pakistan's batting for the last 4-5 years before Rizwan emerged...Fakhar has been inconsistent. He deserved captaincy on merit

The guy averages 50 plus in t20's and a decent strike rate for an opener. he is doing his job. its not his fault that the supporting cast and bowlers have not performed.

what do you want him to do? come 1 down? come 2 down? what difference will it make? it wont.

im sorry - kindly try to assimilate facts before you post. it is laughable that you're somehow considering this is babar azam's fault instead of karachi kings not trying to put a cohesive and well functioming team. they all seem confused while on field.

 

[Savak]

This is a cringeworthy post.

Aazhar Ali, the 44 year old father of a teenager - extremely unfit as a captain who lost 3-0 to bangaldesh is being compared with Babar Azam's team that has won a series against SA, drew against WI, beat Bdesh and beat India 152-0 in the all important T-20 world cup...

Secondly, at international level, Babar Azam carried Pakistan's batting for the last 4-5 years before Rizwan emerged...Fakhar has been inconsistent. He deserved captaincy on merit

The guy averages 50 plus in t20's and a decent strike rate for an opener. he is doing his job. its not his fault that the supporting cast and bowlers have not performed.

what do you want him to do? come 1 down? come 2 down? what difference will it make? it wont.

im sorry - kindly try to assimilate facts before you post. it is laughable that you're somehow considering this is babar azam's fault instead of karachi kings not trying to put a cohesive and well functioming team. they all seem confused while on field.

Ramiz Raja by firing Misbah has triggered the troll in him. He is now going to paint everything about Pakistan Cricket and its players as pessimistically as possible.

 

[cricketerB94]

The franchise care for investment interms of branding and marketing. You offer Babar to LQ and they will even give both Harris Rauf and Shaheen for him. Babar Azam is a big thing in Lahore. The guy is a star there.
You get him to Lahore, the Lahore Qalnders would be making money and will milk babars brand.

Its like how Javed Afridi milked Afridi at Peshawar as he is loved by the people there.

Same way lahoris love this kid and would be crazy if they get him. When they had Umar Akmal there was alot of hype as Umar Akmal is the product of Lahore, Babar is Babar.

Shaheen has been made captain, but Shaheen isnt really the face of Lahore. Lahore can build their brand around him but the value they will get from babar is great than what they get off of Rauf or Shaheen.

Shaheen has been made captain, but Shaheen isnt really the face of Lahore.

He is now. Same like Rizwan is the face of Multan now. Do you think that Multan can trade Rizwan for anyone else? I am from Lahore myself and if there is a choice between Shaheen and Babar in a T20 team, I'll always go for Shaheen. Shaheen is becoming a bigger brand than Babar and LQ will not let him go for Babar or anyone else.

 

[Major]

This is a cringeworthy post.

Aazhar Ali, the 44 year old father of a teenager - extremely unfit as a captain who lost 3-0 to bangaldesh is being compared with Babar Azam's team that has won a series against SA, drew against WI, beat Bdesh and beat India 152-0 in the all important T-20 world cup...

Secondly, at international level, Babar Azam carried Pakistan's batting for the last 4-5 years before Rizwan emerged...Fakhar has been inconsistent. He deserved captaincy on merit

The guy averages 50 plus in t20's and a decent strike rate for an opener. he is doing his job. its not his fault that the supporting cast and bowlers have not performed.

what do you want him to do? come 1 down? come 2 down? what difference will it make? it wont.

im sorry - kindly try to assimilate facts before you post. it is laughable that you're somehow considering this is babar azam's fault instead of karachi kings not trying to put a cohesive and well functioming team. they all seem confused while on field.

this post is an example of whats the problem with Pakistan cricekt.

Let me break it down for you, i said in my post, fans confuse good batting with good captaincy. You ended up doing the same thing lol...

Batting performance and on the field captaincy are separate things. Babar Azam can even break Tendulkar's record, that wont mean he is a good captain, that means he is a good batsmen. This is why Tendulkar played as a batsmen and Dhoni played as a captain.

No one made a comparison, i dont know where you thought comparisons were made, that shows you have issues with comprehending. Comparisons are something else.

What i am discussing is that removing Azhar as captain was premature. Azhar got removed and there was no other option at the time, thus Babar was made. Babar is not a good captain and for that I dont need quantitative data i have seen him from qualitative pov. Because Babar was made captain prematurely, he cannot be removed now and thus any bad performances by him as a captain would have to be bared.

At the time, Azhar Ali should had been bared as captain for 6 months in Test and Hafeez or Malik should had been made interim captains. After which when one of the youngsters emerged the captaincy should ahd been handed to that youngster.

Premature decision was made, Babar got captaincy. Now Shaheen, Rizwan, and Shadab have performed and everyone knows all these 3 players are better captain than Babar but Babar cant be removed now as it would look really bad.

Wrong decision was made in the past due to the influence of Prime Minister and chairman etc.

Babar's captaincy is a big issue

 

[Major]

He is now. Same like Rizwan is the face of Multan now. Do you think that Multan can trade Rizwan for anyone else? I am from Lahore myself and if there is a choice between Shaheen and Babar in a T20 team, I'll always go for Shaheen. Shaheen is becoming a bigger brand than Babar and LQ will not let him go for Babar or anyone else.

Bhai there is a difference between your personal choice and what Lahore wants.

Babar is the pride of Lahore just like how Afridi was. Yes LQ can market Shaheen and make the bucks out of it, but if they got a chance to get Babar they arn't gonna look back and will have to pounce on the opportunity.

These franchises are not into for winning the trophy, they are in it to make money through marketing

Its like if a Pindi franchise ever gets made, Shoaib Akhtar would be the obvious choise as the ambassador along with Shadab being convinced to join them.

Multan Sultans dont matter really. They dont have any branding going on. There marketing is just 0. If Zalmi were to get Rizwan they would need to offer something quality to Multan, but Zalmi dont have anything to offer for Rizwan.....

 

[Major]

The PCB signed new terms with the Franchises where they have agreed to give away 95% of the Central Pool to the Franchises and no new Franchises till PSL 10. So there will be no new PSL teams for the next 3 years

can you plz provide a source for this new terms plz

 

[Savak]

can you plz provide a source for this new terms plz

Its on cricinfo

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/psl-franchises-accept-pcb-s-offer-of-new-financial-model-1282578

 

[cricketerB94]

Bhai there is a difference between your personal choice and what Lahore wants.

Bhai the same applies to you.

Babar is the pride of Lahore just like how Afridi was. Yes LQ can market Shaheen and make the bucks out of it, but if they got a chance to get Babar they arn't gonna look back and will have to pounce on the opportunity.

No, he is not the pride of Lahore. We Lahories do not have this habit of discriminating players according to their birth places. Shaheen is as much the pride of Lahore as Babar and that's the opinion of most of the Lahories, not just me.

These franchises are not into for winning the trophy, they are in it to make money through marketing

Its like if a Pindi franchise ever gets made, Shoaib Akhtar would be the obvious choise as the ambassador along with Shadab being convinced to join them.

Shaheen is more marketable in franchise cricket and T20 format than Babar. So this argument is also wrong even if they are just into it for making money.

Multan Sultans dont matter really. They dont have any branding going on. There marketing is just 0. If Zalmi were to get Rizwan they would need to offer something quality to Multan, but Zalmi dont have anything to offer for Rizwan.....

OK, so going by this argument, if LQ gets Babar, then KK will get Shaheen. How is Shaheen the face of Karachi or KK?

 

[FSQ092]

this post is an example of whats the problem with Pakistan cricket.


Let me break it down for you, i said in my post, fans confuse good batting with good captaincy. You ended up doing the same thing lol...

Batting performance and on the field captaincy are separate things. Babar Azam can even break tendulkars record, that wont mean he is a good captain, that means he is a good batsmen. This is why Tendulkar played as a batsmen and Dhoni played as a captain.

No one made a comparison, i dont know where you thought comparisons were made, that shows you have issues with comprehending. Comparisons are something else.

What i am discussing is that removing Azhar as captain was premature. Azhar got removed and there was no other option at the time, thus Babar was made. Babar is not a good captain and for that I dont need quantitative data i have seen him from qualitative pov. Because Babar was made captain prematurely, he cannot be removed now and thus any bad performances by him as a captain would have to be bared.

At the time, Azhar Ali should had been bared as captain for 6 months in Test and Hafeez or Malik should had been made interm captains. After which when one of the youngsters emerged the captaincy should ahd been handed to that youngster.

Premature decision was made, babar got captaincy. Now Shaheen, Rizwan, and Shadab have performed and everyone knows all these 3 players are better captain than Babar but Babar cant be removed now as it would look really bad.

Wrong decision was made in the past due to the influence of Prime Minister and chairman etc.

Babar's captaincy is a big issue

If Babar is a bad Captain, I am not sure what's the word for Azhar Ali then. Azhar Ali was one of the worst we had since 2010 and Babar is still miles ahead of him. To replace Azhar Ali wasn't a bad decision, they guy doesn't warrant a place in the side and is already playing 3 years from his retirement. Stop supporting Misbah blindly.

The way you laugh at Karachi, you seem to have a certain problem with the city at its fan.

 

[Major]

If Babar is a bad Captain, I am not sure what's the word for Azhar Ali then. Azhar Ali was one of the worst we had since 2010 and Babar is still miles ahead of him. To replace Azhar Ali wasn't a bad decision, they guy doesn't warrant a place in the side and is already playing 3 years from his retirement. Stop supporting Misbah blindly.

The way you laugh at Karachi, you seem to have a certain problem with the city at its fan.

Problem of Pakistan cricket..........

Evaluating captaincy based upon personality and batting style

Azhar Ali was never a bad captain, too bad you people use a persons personality as the basis for judging captaincy

 

[Major]

Bhai the same applies to you.



No, he is not the pride of Lahore. We Lahories do not have this habit of discriminating players according to their birth places. Shaheen is as much the pride of Lahore as Babar and that's the opinion of most of the Lahories, not just me.



Shaheen is more marketable in franchise cricket and T20 format than Babar. So this argument is also wrong even if they are just into it for making money.



OK, so going by this argument, if LQ gets Babar, then KK will get Shaheen. How is Shaheen the face of Karachi or KK?

Look any team can make a payer the face of their franchise with proper marketing. Zalmi did it with Sammy.

So for Karachi it wouldn't be an issue. Yes, sarfraz Ahmed would be ideal for him, but as they cant get him they can use Shaheen for the purpose.


Look I agree, Lahore can make Shaheen into the face of its franchise, but Babar would always have higher glass ceiling in lahore due to reasons discussed above. Lq never had the oppurtunity to get Bbar in the past, but now after this season ends they can make a trade offer

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Wasim has rarely ever taken responsibility for poor performances of his team. He was the director of Multan Sultans in it's inaugral season and they failed miserably there.

KK is one of the richer franchises in PSL. Of all the money they used to get Peter Moores as Head Coach(a personal favorite of both Wasim and Ramiz), they could have gotten a fresh coach for almost the same salary. Jayawardene, Ponting, Stuart Law, Trevor Bayliss, Graham Ford, Paul Farbrace, Jason Gillespie, Simon Katich, Mike Hussey etc etc, they chose Peter Moores.

Plus another thing, it's not the time to turn against Babar Azam. He has probably been doing the best he can but things aren't coming off. It's a good thing his deficiencies are coming to the fore in a domestic league rather than in international cricket. Plus people calling Babar a poor captain, Babar has done quite well in international cricket as a captain. His captaincy in wt20 was commendable.

 

[Savak]

Wasim has rarely ever taken responsibility for poor performances of his team. He was the director of Multan Sultans in it's inaugral season and they failed miserably there.

KK is one of the richer franchises in PSL. Of all the money they used to get Peter Moores as Head Coach(a personal favorite of both Wasim and Ramiz), they could have gotten a fresh coach for almost the same salary. Jayawardene, Ponting, Stuart Law, Trevor Bayliss, Graham Ford, Paul Farbrace, Jason Gillespie, Simon Katich, Mike Hussey etc etc, they chose Peter Moores.

Plus another thing, it's not the time to turn against Babar Azam. He has probably been doing the best he can but things aren't coming off. It's a good thing his deficiencies are coming to the fore in a domestic league rather than in international cricket. Plus people calling Babar a poor captain, Babar has done quite well in international cricket as a captain. His captaincy in wt20 was commendable.

TBF to Babar, in this PSL, a captain is only good as its team. Even Imad would have struggled with this team. Imad failed in the previous PSL's with a better team.

 

[Saj]

The players have been terrible.
The draft was a debacle.

I don't think this is one person's mistake.

Overhaul at KK needed.

 

[Major]

Btw is Akram there today? hasnt been shown today

 

[MenInG]

Btw is Akram there today? hasnt been shown today

 

[shariqnoor]

I have always said that Wasim Akram has no intelligence beyond teaching in-swing, out-swing, reverse swing. I just don't get why there is always the fixation of having a cricketer overseeing the affairs. Pakistani cricketers just aren't technically sound in any facet except their own area of expertise which is batting or bowling.

These franchises need young 35 year olds who understand business management and use data analytics to their advantage. Who's responsible for letting go of Alex Hales and replacing him with Colin Ingram who is not even playing for KK? There is not a single current Pakistan fast bowler in the team. Wasim needs to explain these decisions.

Until Karachi develops a template of how they want to play their cricket, the franchise will always run on an adhoc basis.

 

[omairsiddiqui]

What exactly is Wasim Akram's role at Karachi Kings?

I understand he is the President, but what are his responsibilities? Is he in the dugout as a selector, coach, team director?

If heads must roll at KK at the end of the season, I believe it should start with sacking Wasim. This season has been shambolic and he is the most influential voice in that camp. Even as a commentator, I've seen him collect hefty paychecks even though he is poor and has zero knowledge on players. Have a feeling much of the same is happening at KK.

 

[Savak]

Wasim will scapegoat Babar for the results this season

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Wasim will scapegoat Babar for the results this season

Exactly that's what he is trying to do what he did in last match was all his nautanki drama .
If he was that serious to start with we wouldn't have came across such unbalance team & relu kattas overseas player's.

 

[Savak]

Lol, Wasim Akram is now stating in public that he alone was not the main decision maker at the draft and the draft picks were made in consultation with the KK management. But next season he will take charge of everything.

Deflecting responsibility?

 

[Savak]

Lol Wasim drove Babar out of KK. Zero accountability for the previous season. When the owners run the franchise teams so unprofessionally, how can the PSL progress?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Lol Wasim drove Babar out of KK. Zero accountability for the previous season. When the owners run the franchise teams so unprofessionally, how can the PSL progress?

Rightly so, Babar was putting too much pressure on Sharjeel Khan…now we’ll finally see Fakhar and Sharjeel light up the PSL.

 

[Gayle_Force]

Karachi Kings is without doubt the worst managed franchise in PSL and it’s unfortunate for people of Karachi as it is the biggest market. Just look at other franchises pretty much all of them have introduced emerging players that have gone on to represent Pakistan but same can’t be said for KK. The franchise even struggles to retain overseas players. Even a naïve person on the street knows that a franchise requires at least one domestic star player to help the brand and attract audiences. KK had one of the two biggest internationally recognized Pakistani stars and let him go for Shoaib Malik and Haider Ali. How pathetic is that. Now the entire franchise is getting blasted on social media.

Wasim Akram is a legend but it’s clear by his own admission that he no longer wants to put significant efforts towards Pakistan cricket and is more or less enjoying the retirement life. The KK gig is only a side hustle for him and I doubt he puts any serious effort for the franchise in drafting and scouting. He is mostly there to act as a mentor for a month.

 

[Savak]

Am disappointed with Wasim Akram yet again. Given that his Franchise has now lost 4 games out of 5 in the present season, should he not man up and attend at least one post match interview to take the heat away from the team and face tough questions? He was absent in the previous season and is absent this season as well. I expected better from such a big influential figure in the dug out.

 

[Savak]

Not a single press conference by this glorified chearleader on a fully paid vacation to defend the team or to explain this seasons debacle. And this guys official title is President of the Karachi Kings Franchise

 

[reversehook]

Bro KK is an advertisement for ARY A-SPORTS and tax saving for the owner... they could care less about winning or player development...