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"We chose peace, Pakistan chose proxy war’: PM Modi on India-Pakistan relations on podcast with Lex Fridman

I have been saying this for a while: Indians claim to be an innocent kindergartner that has done no wrong to other countries, all while showing immense arrogance and delusions. And this is perfect example that. This guy is claiming India has not supported terrorists in Pakistan.

Not sure how they can say this with a straight face. It was not long ago that this was exposed to be BS even in the West when US and Canada both exposed their assassinations. But they will still claim to be innocent. 😂
 
Indians loving giving lectures but they are the only country in the world hosting a fugitive leader from their direct neighbour and have border dispute with all neighbours.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indians loving giving lectures but they are the only country in the world hosting a fugitive leader from their direct neighbour and have border dispute with all neighbours.
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Sheikh Haseena behen is the last hope for secularism in Bangladesh and the protection of millions of Hindus there. By protecting her we are keeping hopes of a nation and a community alive. We don’t want a situation like Nazi Germany that bloody thirsty Islamist mullahs of Bangladesh go on a rampage killing every Hindu at sight. As the peacekeepers in the region it is our duty to provide protection to ambassadors of peace. 🕊️
 
ahsan17 said:
I have been saying this for a while: Indians claim to be an innocent kindergartner that has done no wrong to other countries, all while showing immense arrogance and delusions. And this is perfect example that. This guy is claiming India has not supported terrorists in Pakistan.

Not sure how they can say this with a straight face. It was not long ago that this was exposed to be BS even in the West when US and Canada both exposed their assassinations. But they will still claim to be innocent. 😂
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No country is completely innocent, they all, in some way, undermine their neighbors behind the scenes. Just because paid media portrays their own country as righteous and others as evil doesn't make it the truth. :inti @Bhaijaan

According to our media and andhbhakhts:

India is like:

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Pakistan is like:

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Bhaijaan said:
Sheikh Haseena behen is the last hope for secularism in Bangladesh and the protection of millions of Hindus there. By protecting her we are keeping hopes of a nation and a community alive. We don’t want a situation like Nazi Germany that bloody thirsty Islamist mullahs of Bangladesh go on a rampage killing every Hindu at sight. As the peacekeepers in the region it is our duty to provide protection to ambassadors of peace. 🕊️
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Secularism abroad but you want Hindu rashtra at home.

This is what you guys accuse Pakistanis of .....
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indians loving giving lectures but they are the only country in the world hosting a fugitive leader from their direct neighbour and have border dispute with all neighbours.
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I mean .. if you're going to accuse India of hosting dangerous characters, surely you come up with someone other than the nefarious Dalai Lama. Unless of course, you mean Hasina..
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Secularism abroad but you want Hindu rashtra at home.

This is what you guys accuse Pakistanis of .....
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What is the problem with Hindu Rashtra? Hinduism is a peace loving, education promoting, progressive and insulted culture brother. Historically speaking all persecuted communities got safe haven in Hindu Bharat.
 
Modi is right here. After becoming PM, he tried to form good relationship with all neighbouring countries including Pakistan. He even went to met Nawaz Sheriff uninvited. Pakistani deep state responded that with attacks on Pathankot and Uri. This is not the first time. When Vajpayee was dong Aman Ka Aasha with Nawaz Sheriff, Musharraf decided to launch Kargil war and its militants attacked Indian parliament and hijacked a plane.

India is a global powerhouse now and Pakistan is living in IMF bailouts. So with these tainted history, Indian govt has no incentive or need to form close relationship with Pakistan again.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indians loving giving lectures but they are the only country in the world hosting a fugitive leader from their direct neighbour and have border dispute with all neighbours.
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Correct.

India is the most destabilising force in the subcontinent region. They have issues with many different countries --> China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and Maldives.

This is why I would love to see a weakened/balkanized India. It can be good for the region. :inti
 
Rajdeep said:
Modi is right here. After becoming PM, he tried to form good relationship with all neighbouring countries including Pakistan. He even went to met Nawaz Sheriff uninvited. Pakistani deep state responded that with attacks on Pathankot and Uri. This is not the first time. When Vajpayee was dong Aman Ka Aasha with Nawaz Sheriff, Musharraf decided to launch Kargil war and its militants attacked Indian parliament and hijacked a plane.

India is a global powerhouse now and Pakistan is living in IMF bailouts. So with these tainted history, Indian govt has no incentive or need to form close relationship with Pakistan again.
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Very Indian to use the most extreme and charitable description for India, then use the most extreme and uncharitable from the other end for the country Indians don't like, for generalizations.
 
sweep_shot said:
Correct.

India is the most destabilising force in the subcontinent region. They have issues with many different countries --> China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and Maldives.

This is why I would love to see a weakened/balkanized India. It can be good for the region. :inti
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Oh, and India had been supporting TTP and BLA all that time. So this may sell well in India but it's basically BS.
 
ahsan17 said:
Very Indian to use the most extreme and charitable description for India, then use the most extreme and uncharitable from the other end for the country Indians don't like, for generalizations.
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The things that I have mentioned like Plane hijacking, 26/11, attack on parliament, Kargil, Uri, Pathankot etall are nothing but truth where Pakistanis have hand on it. Had these things only happening during Modi era, one could have suspected a foul play and internal job. But the fact remains, these things happening under all PMs in India - Vajpayee, Manmohan or Modi. The thing is, Pakistan tried to fight India militarily man to man 4 times and lost all 4. It is perhaps a bigger humiliation than world cup streak. So starting 90s, since they realized they cannot beat India militarily, have resorted to attacking India from back using non state actors. This is exactly the proxy war Modi ji is talking about. After Osama Bin Laden was found 10 miles from ISI base, entire world is now aware of such non state actors residing in Pakistan.

However, Modi ji have time and again said the militants of Pakistan don't represent it common citizen. Everyone is aware 99.9% of Pakistani aam people are peace loving and have their own business to mind. It is the state of Pakistan and its usage of non state actors as proxies are the problem.

Rajdeep.
 
Rajdeep said:
The things that I have mentioned like Plane hijacking, 26/11, attack on parliament, Kargil,
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There was a book on kargil war by pak author. She mentioned clearly that a meeting with nawaj, musharraf and other pak top army leaders happened to discuss the capture of kargil just before 1 week of bus yatra by Vajpayee. Only benefit of doubt author gave to nawaj.she expressed her doubt that whether nawaz have brain to understand that kargil is in india but not in pak.when some one opposing military plan cryptically asked nawaj "have u understood sir,what they are planning to do?".he affirmatively said "Yes".As per his assistant interview with author, nawaj was very excited to think he will be the one who brought freedom to kashmir and will be on equal terms as jinnah .
 
Pakistan is everything that India isn’t. India needs to fight it out in every possible way to ward off Pakistan. Of course the real threat to India is China. Pakistan is a proxy for China to create trouble and keep India engaged in a perennial war like situation with them. It’s a political game and everyone knows what the others are doing. Pointing fingers is pointless.
 
Sad that we have two radicalised extremist nations on either side of our border, but Bharat has to move on. Like they say, you can't choose your neighbors.
 
Rajdeep said:
The things that I have mentioned like Plane hijacking, 26/11, attack on parliament, Kargil, Uri, Pathankot etall are nothing but truth where Pakistanis have hand on it. Had these things only happening during Modi era, one could have suspected a foul play and internal job. But the fact remains, these things happening under all PMs in India - Vajpayee, Manmohan or Modi. The thing is, Pakistan tried to fight India militarily man to man 4 times and lost all 4. It is perhaps a bigger humiliation than world cup streak. So starting 90s, since they realized they cannot beat India militarily, have resorted to attacking India from back using non state actors. This is exactly the proxy war Modi ji is talking about. After Osama Bin Laden was found 10 miles from ISI base, entire world is now aware of such non state actors residing in Pakistan.

However, Modi ji have time and again said the militants of Pakistan don't represent it common citizen. Everyone is aware 99.9% of Pakistani aam people are peace loving and have their own business to mind. It is the state of Pakistan and its usage of non state actors as proxies are the problem.

Rajdeep.
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Gujrat after those riots has been a totally different state for over two decades. Modi way works, there's no shortage of such examples.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
No country is completely innocent, they all, in some way, undermine their neighbors behind the scenes. Just because paid media portrays their own country as righteous and others as evil doesn't make it the truth. :inti @Bhaijaan

According to our media and andhbhakhts:

India is like:

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Pakistan is like:

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Your post and mine earlier can be demonstrated several times over in this thread. And that's why almost no one takes this one-sided narrative seriously anymore.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indians loving giving lectures but they are the only country in the world hosting a fugitive leader from their direct neighbour and have border dispute with all neighbours.
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Border dispute is a legacy of British times.

What fugitive? 😂

BD hasn't even formally asked for extradition.
 
ahsan17 said:
Your post and mine earlier can be demonstrated several times over in this thread. And that's why almost no one takes this one-sided narrative seriously anymore.
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Nobody needs to take each other's narrative seriously. Each to their own.

All trade, diplomatic & cricket ties between the two countries stand suspended indefinitely .. if you are happy with that, so be it.
 
The BJP regime has a perpetual need for a boogeyman and will persist in waging war against the long vanquished Mughals of India.
 
HalBass9 said:
The BJP regime has a perpetual need for a boogeyman and will persist in waging war against the long vanquished Mughals of India.
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Unfortunately the anti national Mughal mentality persists within many Muslims of Bharat who did not leave the nation to join Pakistan in 1947.
 
99% of the folk who will flock to comment here will not even watch and listen to the conversation.

Not even counting the ability to read and research about historical events, validate facts, political events etc. that obviously will be too much.
 
RexRex said:
Nobody needs to take each other's narrative seriously. Each to their own.

All trade, diplomatic & cricket ties between the two countries stand suspended indefinitely .. if you are happy with that, so be it.
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Makes no difference if anyone here is happy or sad about it. India is the one with the whip hand and always has been. What they want with regard to relations will always dictate matters, regardless of whatever spin Modi puts on it. To be clear, what else would you expect of him given his belief in a Hindu Rashtra.
 
HalBass9 said:
The BJP regime has a perpetual need for a boogeyman and will persist in waging war against the long vanquished Mughals of India.
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Yes. They are a party that needs gimmicks to stay relevant. Very little substance.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Unfortunately the anti national Mughal mentality persists within many Muslims of Bharat who did not leave the nation to join Pakistan in 1947.
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Given the growing Muslim population and majority of Indians still fighting to reclaim from the dead Mughals, another partition could be a possibility in the future.
 
When has India ever admitted their own mistake?

Every time, India makes claims someone is after them
 
Major said:
When has India ever admitted their own mistake?

Every time, India makes claims someone is after them
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We made a mistake in 1947.
Everyone in Bharat acknowledges it brother
 
Local.Dada said:
Indian PM will speak India’s narrative on an international forum. Why are you so surprised?
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Who would've guessed? We were all just so sure Modi was going to give a passionate speech about Cambodia instead of, you know, the country he actually runs. Shocking. LOL
 
Major said:
when did a podcast became an international forum
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An American podcaster on YouTube with 4 M subscribers is not an Indian forum.

Also what is it you are expecting him to say about Pakistan? A country with a messed up political system with ex Pm in Jail, insurgencies happening every where. In fact I feel he was very respectful towards Pakistani people.

If it was a Pak Pm he would have started crap like Islamic ummah etc.

Modi spoke like a true diplomat and politician. A lesson in how to behave in such forum for every Pak politician ever.

Learn from it instead of being a frustrated parrot.
 
Local.Dada said:
An American podcaster on YouTube with 4 M subscribers is not an Indian forum.

Also what is it you are expecting him to say about Pakistan? A country with a messed up political system with ex Pm in Jail, insurgencies happening every where. In fact I feel he was very respectful towards Pakistani people.

If it was a Pak Pm he would have started crap like Islamic ummah etc.

Modi spoke like a true diplomat and politician. A lesson in how to behave in such forum for every Pak politician ever.

Learn from it instead of being a frustrated parrot.
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so a podcast is international forum?
 
Major said:
so a podcast is international forum?
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Yes it is because it is consumed by international audience mostly.

What would you call an interview to a foreign media channel? I believe the common word is “international forum” from what I know. English is my third language , so not very fluent. so feel free to correct me on the verbiage.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Modi and Nadir Ali would be a good podcast. I am going to write a letter to GOI to ask if they will set it up.
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I could early imagine Nadir Ali saying "arey, ajj tou app humay apnay hatho ke chai tou bana kar pilaye"
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There are two fugutives.

Old man Dalai Lama and Bibi Hasina.
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Evil people like Dalai Lama and Hasina vs 👇

Based on publicly available information from the U.S. State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) list, the U.S. has designated four major groups that are generally recognized as originating from Pakistan:


1. Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT)


2. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)


3. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP)


4. Haqqani Network


Are people from this organization shaheed or fugitives? 🤔


Also will save you the effort

Based on the U.S. State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) designations, there is generally only one group originating in India that is currently listed as an FTO—the Communist Party of India (Maoist).
 
Major said:
so this excites you? That Trump shared the podcast?

This podcast must be the equivalent to a UN Security Council for you guys right?
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Trump is USA president. Lol

Why you're hurt?

Still waiting a phone call ?

:kp
 
Major said:
Question for Pakistan ppers. If Modi was to do a podcast with Nadir Ali, that would be an international forum aswell ? :ibutt
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Reminds me of his podcast with Rajpal Yadav. Using his logic, he shouldn't be called Local Dada either. He should be called International Dada because he falls under the international audience category. :inti
 
Local.Dada said:
Evil people like Dalai Lama and Hasina vs 👇

Based on publicly available information from the U.S. State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) list, the U.S. has designated four major groups that are generally recognized as originating from Pakistan:


1. Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT)


2. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)


3. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP)


4. Haqqani Network


Are people from this organization shaheed or fugitives? 🤔


Also will save you the effort

Based on the U.S. State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) designations, there is generally only one group originating in India that is currently listed as an FTO—the Communist Party of India (Maoist).
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The topic is Modis claim about India after his chit chat on an international forum.

India has harboured two fugitive leaders.

That is an undisputed fact and no lists of what happens in Pakistan can change it.
 
the discussion and the issue on this topic by some Pakistanis is the most vella issue I have ever seen 🤣

Must be an extremely slow news day in Pakistan. Can’t be given the tragic incidents of the last few week. However it’s kind of sad and kind of amusing that they have the most pointless of topics to circle jerk and feel happy about.
 
Devadwal said:
Trump is USA president. Lol

Why you're hurt?

Still waiting a phone call ?

:kp
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the fact that you lot celebrate a tweet by the social media manager of trumps account is hilarious.

The desperation for acceptance from a white man even if that lunatic is Trump.

Like a podcast is being labelled as an International forum here
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Guys please snap out from national and international forum, thanks
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come on man, we need to clear this whether a podcast falls under the domain of international forum or not.

This is a serious issue because our neighbours are making claims that if someone from another country does a podcast, that becomes an international forum.

Now an UN is an international forum, so it seems like some of the BJP fans are claiming this Podcast to be its equivalent.

Like i am concerned now that whatever Zakir Naik said to Nadir was basically him talking to a UN forum
 
Local.Dada said:
the discussion and the issue on this topic by some Pakistanis is the most vella issue I have ever seen 🤣

Must be an extremely slow news day in Pakistan. Can’t be given the tragic incidents of the last few week. However it’s kind of sad and kind of amusing that they have the most pointless of topics to circle jerk and feel happy about.
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images


Guess who started this thread? :inti
 
Major said:
come on man, we need to clear this whether a podcast falls under the domain of international forum or not.

This is a serious issue because our neighbours are making claims that if someone from another country does a podcast, that becomes an international forum.

Now an UN is an international forum, so it seems like some of the BJP fans are claiming this Podcast to be its equivalent.

Like i am concerned now that whatever Zakir Naik said to Nadir was basically him talking to a UN forum
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Ok, but please withhold the decorum
 
Modi should do one podcast with Ranveer Allahbadia and Samay Raina because they clearly represent the youth of India these days. :bow: :inti
 
Major said:
the fact that you lot celebrate a tweet by the social media manager of trumps account is hilarious.

The desperation for acceptance from a white man even if that lunatic is Trump.

Like a podcast is being labelled as an International forum here
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The sentiments Indians are posting are conditional on the white person liking India. Remember how they trash BBC every time it publishes an article they don't like.

In fact it gets funnier. When BBC writes an article against Pakistan, these same guys will go on about a mainstream Western media outlet writing the article, implying the article has credibility because it was written by a mainstream Western media outlet.

But switch to an article against India, they will go on about anti-India bias or whatnot.
 
Local.Dada said:
Yes great point. President of USA has no credibility 👍
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Actually tell me this seriously. Do you think Trump has credibility at international stage? Don't try to weasel out by saying "President of USA" in general. Talk about Trump specifically, the CURRENT president of US
 
Major said:
the fact that you lot celebrate a tweet by the social media manager of trumps account is hilarious.

The desperation for acceptance from a white man even if that lunatic is Trump.

Like a podcast is being labelled as an International forum here
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Its a international podcast. Every tweets is managed by Trump manager but after approval of Trump .

Agan asking the same question - phone call aya ya nahi Abhi tak ?

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Its a international podcast. Every tweets is managed by Trump manager but after approval of Trump .

Agan asking the same question - phone call aya ya nahi Abhi tak ?

:kp
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Trump doesn't have the same effect you think he does. These days it's quite the opposite.
 
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