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West Indies v Australia | 2nd Test | Antigua | 30/5/08 to 03/6/08

Inswinging Yorker said:
its not behefit of the doubt...ITS BLATANT CHEATING :12:
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I don't think it's cheating - just incompetence. Obviously Thiefin doesn't know where the off stump is. The batsmen were beaten playing shots by the ball swinging in.
 
Inswinging Yorker said:
probably sleeping?...it late in auss i think
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I'm not in OZ, I'm in Boston these days, but at work. I've been posting on the thread but I do have to do some work now and then. :P
 
OZGOD said:
I'm not in OZ, I'm in Boston these days, but at work. I've been posting on the thread but I do have to do some work now and then. :P
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forget work :P watch lee's awesome spell.
 
54 ovs left and 127 runs lead . I reckon aus can get another 225 runs by the end of days play.
 
I didn't see any of the so-called "thiefed" wickets, but as long as Theifin is consistent and gives people out when bowled outside off stump all the time, irrespective of which team they play for, I think it's all good. It doesn't change the fact that he's a shyte umpire (and we all knew that anyway - there's a reason why he was demoted from the Elite Panel), but at least he'll be consistent.

WI had best get over moping over this and concentrate on saving the game. It's tough but sh!t happens unfortunately, you just have to deal with it.
 
TruSachFan said:
what does sarwan sees in powell?
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Mate, they don't have bowlers. It isn't like a situation where you have Shoaib, Asif and Gul, and then Tanvir, Sohail Khan and Wahab Riaz. Powell is the one of their best - and he simply isn't very good.
 
There is no doubt about the fact that the Australians cheat to win and get a lot of help from the umpires especially when they are playing against the non-white teams

But the question is for how long are the non-white teams going to allow this farce to continue and tolerate this racial bias of the ICC?
There is a limit to anybody's tolerance?

So far only BCCI has the balls to confront the ICC and speak up against this racism
 
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junoon said:
So far only BCCI has the balls to confront the ICC and speak up against this racism
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Mate the BCCI just uses its money power, we don't want to go down the Indians' route.

But yeah, the West Indies, us, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka need to do something about it
 
junoon said:
There is no doubt about the fact that the Australians cheat to win and get a lot of help from the umpires especially when they are playing against the non-white teams

But the questions is for how long are the non-white teams going to allow this farce to continue and tolerate this racial bias of the ICC?
There is a limit to anybody's tolerance?

So far only BCCI has the balls to confront the ICC and speak up against this racism
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mate there is no racism in this. The umpire is just blind and stupid. But ICC seriously needs to do something about the level of umpiring. Maybe, give them more help, or like a challenge system like in american football.
 
Krapich is injured again lol. This guy is a medical insurers' nightmare! Bit of a blow to the body and he's out of commission for two days! :po:

Katich didn't field for most of the West Indies innings. It may be to do with a blow that he took to the body during his first-innings century
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junoon said:
There is no doubt about the fact that the Australians cheat to win and get a lot of help from the umpires especially when they are playing against the non-white teams

But the question is for how long are the non-white teams going to allow this farce to continue and tolerate this racial bias of the ICC?
There is a limit to anybody's tolerance?

So far only BCCI has the balls to confront the ICC and speak up against this racism
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Mate, Tiffin was demoted from the Elite Panel for a reason - he's crap.
 
junoon said:
The racial bias of the ICC cannot be ignored.

Even non-white umpires and officials like Aleem Dar, and the house-negroes of the ICC such as Steve Bucknor feel powerless in the white-dominated ICC and are forced to toe the line in order to please their white bosses
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Neither can your racial bias be ignored!
 
junoon said:
The racial bias of the ICC cannot be ignored.

For the last 5 years, the marginal decisions have been going in favour of Australia and England especially when they are playing against the non-white teams. There have been a lot of instances of blatantly biased decisions going in favour of Eng and Aus. The double standards are very obvious

Even non-white umpires and officials like Aleem Dar, and the house-negroes of the ICC such as Steve Bucknor feel powerless in the white-dominated ICC and are forced to toe the line in order to please their white bosses
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Disappointing post!
we all know what happened to the Bucknor after he pleased his "white bosses"
 
From Cricinfo

For those of you wondering why Katich is not opening, he has a bruised rib that he picked up while making a century in the first innings. He didn't field much during the West Indies innings and has apparently been sent off for some scans.
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Sounds pretty bad though no doubt OZGOD will find it funny
 
cars112 said:
Mate the BCCI just uses its money power, we don't want to go down the Indians' route.

But yeah, the West Indies, us, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka need to do something about it
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You do hate India, don't ya? There's nothing wrong what BCCI has did. I really admire that and i don't care if BCCI used money power to use. BCCI has ended the racism going on to non-white teams and the word is enough is enough. Thank to BCCI, umpires won't repeat again to other non-white teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, South Africa, and ofcourse Bangladesh too :D
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Disappointing post!
we all know what happened to the Bucknor after he pleased his "white bosses"
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That's because BCCI has the balls and they look out for their team and players.

If Bucknor tried the same antics when pakistan was playing, our PCB and DNA would not have done anything and Bucknor would not have been replaced for the next test match.

Look at the way ICC brought back that white racist, Hair. ICC treated pakistan like a pushover. Our PCB needs to learn a lot from BCCI
 
junoon said:
That's because BCCI has the balls and they look out for their team and players.

If Bucknor tried the same antics when pakistan was playing, our PCB and DNA would not have done anything and Bucknor would not have been replaced for the next test match.

Look at the way ICC brought back that white racist, Hair. ICC treated pakistan like a pushover. Our PCB needs to learn a lot from BCCI
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The guy got suspended after he made those incorrect decisions against India and you are telling me how the whites are in charge and controlling the umpires? :20:

Agree with cars on this one! I don't like the PCB(don't think any one does) but i don't want them to be like BCCI either.
 
All of you guys need to play the racist card a little less, not every tom dick & harry is out there to get us just because we are of different colour. The way everyone sees any injustice as a racial bias is just an excuse IMO.
 
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imranahmed_khan said:
All of you guys need to play the racist a little less, not every tom dick & harry is out there to get us just because we are of different colour. The way everyone sees any injustice as a racial bias is just an excuse IMO.
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fully agree.
 
Regarding Bucknor and India .. I think his bias there was purely personal and had nothing to do with the ICC.

The guy just enjoyed screwing India.
 
Baah ..... what are these snails doing ... send in Lee and MJ for some quick runs and then declare.
 
kashif77 said:
Regarding Bucknor and India .. I think his bias there was purely personal and had nothing to do with the ICC.

The guy just enjoyed screwing India.
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Bucknor was not biased against India. The Indians just used him as an excuse for their usual defeats
 
TruSachFan said:
still 41 ovs left though
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and if they keep going at 2 runs and over they won't have a big enough lead to declare.
 
Thus far this match has been "A tale of two tails"

The difference in the first innings score can be entirely contributed to how each teams lower order performed.

Lee and MJ pounded out an almost century partnership while the Windies tail surrendered in no time.
 
Australia 43/0 (17.4 Ovs)
Phil Jaques 19(57)
Mike Hussey* 19(51)

Aus in no hurry, it seems
 
cars112 said:
Bucknor was not biased against India. The Indians just used him as an excuse for their usual defeats
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If you look at history, Bucknor has been biased to India in the past just like Billy Doctrove against Pakistan in the past. Sadly, Hair umpiring started worse since 2000 and then we all know what happened in Lord Test :|
 
MalikBrother said:
If you look at history, Bucknor has been biased to India in the past just like Billy Doctrove against Pakistan in the past. Sadly, Hair umpiring started worse since 2000 and then we all know what happened in Lord Test :|
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I agree that certain umpires have been biased against Pakistan, but Bucknor was not biased against India, any mistakes were genuine. At the end of the day India lost those games because of their own weaknesses
 
cars112 said:
Bucknor was not biased against India. The Indians just used him as an excuse for their usual defeats
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No mate ... I'm no fan of Indian whingering ... but Bucknor had it out quite specifically for the Indians.
 
cars112 said:
I agree that certain umpires have been biased against Pakistan, but Bucknor was not biased against India, any mistakes were genuine. At the end of the day India lost those games because of their own weaknesses
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genuine mistakes? :20:
 
cars112 said:
I agree that certain umpires have been biased against Pakistan, but Bucknor was not biased against India, any mistakes were genuine. At the end of the day India lost those games because of their own weaknesses
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You have no idea about History between Bucknor and India, do you?
I agree India has lost most of games because of their poor performance. We can't forget the second test and it reminded me of how Bucknor was used to be biased toward India and proved it again. :|
 
Sammy to Ponting, no run, a huge shout from Sammy as the ball pitches outside off and comes back in, hitting Ponting just below the knee roll but Umpire Tiffin is unmoved. Has it hit him outside the line?

errr!
 
OZGOD said:
I didn't see any of the so-called "thiefed" wickets, but as long as Theifin is consistent and gives people out when bowled outside off stump all the time, irrespective of which team they play for, I think it's all good.
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28.3 Sammy to Ponting, no run, just outside off, Ponting comes on the frontfoot and looks to defend, rapped on the pads, HUGE APPEAL!! turned down, the impact was outside the off stump, West Indies got a few decisions against them which were so similar
 
cars112 said:
Say whatever you want about the PCB, they aren't bullies like the BCCI
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How are the BCCI bullies??
Infact, it was the ICC that was the bully in that case and BCCI dealt with that ICC a brilliant way

PCB can learn a lot from BCCI about how to deal with a bigger bully called the ICC
 
22 ovs left and already a 219 run lead. Me thinks aus will bat 10 more ovs trw and post a daunting total of 350ish.
 
f.b.m said:
Question is, can they bowl out west indies in less than a day?
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Yes
If you take out Sarwan and chanders then the average of the averages of others in the top 7 is in the 20s.

ps ...and WI MUST have Chanders bat at 4
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Yes
If you take out Sarwan and chanders then the average of the averages of others in the top 7 is in the 20s.

ps ...and WI MUST have Chanders bat at 4
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True, but how are they going to ge Chandu out? And Bravo and Marshall have looked quite good too.
 
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cars112 said:
From Cricinfo



Sounds pretty bad though no doubt OZGOD will find it funny
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What a wusso. Bit of bruised rib never hurt anyone.
 
f.b.m said:
True, but how are they going to ge Chandu out? And Bravo and Marshall have looked quite good too.
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they don't need to they can get the other 10

Marshall is very inexperienced and Bravo should not cause too many problems if Macgill can find a neutral point between a 40 mph bouncer and a knee high full toss
 
Aus 116-1 after 37 overs - lead of 243
25 overs left today
if Macgill can find a neutral point between a 40 mph bouncer and a knee high full toss
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:))
2 overs ago - Here comes West Indies' frontline spinner, well, for this match anyway, Sarwan to bowl
 
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I think Aus won't declare before getting a lead of 350 plus.
 
cars112 said:
28.3 Sammy to Ponting, no run, just outside off, Ponting comes on the frontfoot and looks to defend, rapped on the pads, HUGE APPEAL!! turned down, the impact was outside the off stump, West Indies got a few decisions against them which were so similar
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LOL Thiefin obviously watched some replays and realised that he didn't know where the offstump was. He should at least balance the decisions out though. And this is an OZ fan talking.

That said, the OZ team can't do anything about Thiefin, we can only play based on the way the game unfolds.
 
junoon said:
How are the BCCI bullies??
Infact, it was the ICC that was the bully in that case and BCCI dealt with that ICC a brilliant way

PCB can learn a lot from BCCI about how to deal with a bigger bully called the ICC
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The ICC is the most emasculated world sporting body. They couldn't bully their way out of a wet paper bag.

Also, Malcolm Speed's abrupt departure shows who really pulls the strings in the ICC. It ain't the Australia-England bloc, and it hasn't been for a long time.
 
Jaques doing an excellent job. They have scored close to 55 runs in the last 10 overs


....and jaques leaves!
 
The lead approaching 300 now with just over 100 overs remaining.

I reckon the Aussies will be looking at 80-85 overs to bowl the Windies out.
 
PlanetPakistan said:
They should declare tonight.
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WI chased 250 against SL recently, which I'm sure will play on Punter's mind. Not that it is likely to happen, but you never know
 
They arent exactly going for broke out there are they.

Bat another 6 or 7 overs and put them in Punter. There's no BC Lara !
 
cars112 said:
WI chased 250 against SL recently, which I'm sure will play on Punter's mind. Not that it is likely to happen, but you never know
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They are already ahead by 312 runs! Just need another 50 runs(which they can achieve tonight) to be safe
 
50.6 Powell to Symonds, THATS OUT!! Run Out!!
Punches it to mid off and sets off for a quick single, Clarke responds, the throw as at his end instead of the danger end, it is a direct hit, third umpire is in action!!
 
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