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Which side will win the New Zealand v Pakistan ICC World Cup 2019 game at Edgbaston?

Which side will win the New Zealand v Pakistan ICC World Cup 2019 game at Edgbaston?

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New found optimism in the Pakistan camp- can they keep the spirit going into the next game?

Could we be seeing CT17 repeat itself again?
 
Big ask for Pakistan but they have it in themselves to do this.
 
Ye chest thumping Jo aaj Twitter or Sab jagah ho rahi h bus 2 day or rahegi then.....:moyo2
 
I think Pakistan has woken up now. Inducting H Sohail is a testament to that.
It will be difficult for others to stop them now.

World cup is all about momentum.
 
I'm not confident about this game. NZ have always found a way to get over the line in this tournament.
 
Pakistan was expected to win against SA. Now the real challenge comes in the form of NZ and things have to really go our way if we are to win this. Hope the win today gives this team the cnfidence and momentum to beat the Kiwis.
 
NZ are due for an off day. They are yet to lose a game in this tournament. I won’t be surprised if it will be against Pakistan.
 
The way we are dropping catch after catch and really sloppy in the field. We do this against KW and Ross, they are going to murder us
We are not getting early wickets and that is a problem.
I can see Pakistan fighting to win but I can also see that our dropping catches and misfields is what is going to cost us this game.

A win would be amazing but in all honesty we may have beaten South Africa but New Zealand in this world cup are on another level and do not fold or lose as easily as they used to.

Plus we are not consistent in winning back to back games.
 
NZ unfortunately as they will take half chances but Pak will muck up by missing easy catches. Also Shahewn notbowling with variation will be costly .
 
Should be Pakistan, who have faced much more difficult competition up till now.

Plus Pakistan has derailed NZ famously before.
 
The kookaburra ball doesn’t swing so lateral movement won’t be too much of an issue.

The pitch is used spin and slower ball will play a big factor. I expect we will win this. (But Taylor and Williamson play spin very well)
Expecting hafeez to get Taylor
 
Get Kane Williamson out early, your chances of winning this game will double. He's the key wicket and if our bowlers fail to overcome him, we need Babar Azam to match him on the day to stand a chance.
 
50/50 game. If pakistan will drop catches NZ will punish you badly. If someone drop williamson catch on 10 runs then he will not give you another chance. Get willi and taylor cheaply and win match. Imad economy rate is outstanding but not taking wickets he need to work on his variations. Amir is still missing his bowling partner. He is not getting enough support from other end.
 
topspin said:
Get Kane Williamson out early, your chances of winning this game will double. He's the key wicket and if our bowlers fail to overcome him, we need Babar Azam to match him on the day to stand a chance.
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It's not all about Kane.

Munro and Latham - law of average catching up, they are due to perform.
Kane - In form
Taylor - In form
Neesham - Descructive
CDG - better version of Afridi

It's hard to accept that all of them will fail against Pakistan. And believe it or not, NZ tail is the best of the lot.
 
Although NZ will be hard to beat, at least Pakistan can take a little bit of heart from the fact that their bowling and batting is showing some improvement.
The big area to focus on now is fielding as they cannot drop catches against NZ
 
GrandMaster said:
It's not all about Kane.

Munro and Latham - law of average catching up, they are due to perform.
Kane - In form
Taylor - In form
Neesham - Descructive
CDG - better version of Afridi

It's hard to accept that all of them will fail against Pakistan. And believe it or not, NZ tail is the best of the lot.
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NZ could beat Bangladesh, NZ and WI by the narrowest margins and Kane Williamson has contributed immensely in most (if not all) of those games. Yes it's not all down to KW with the bat, however he has scored 2 tons and a half century in 3 of the 4 games he's played in this tournament, so it's paramount for Pakistan to dismiss him early in his innings.
 
GrandMaster said:
It's not all about Kane.

Munro and Latham - law of average catching up, they are due to perform.
Kane - In form
Taylor - In form
Neesham - Descructive
CDG - better version of Afridi

It's hard to accept that all of them will fail against Pakistan. And believe it or not, NZ tail is the best of the lot.
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Lol if you want to look at it like that, then Kane is due a golden duck and Taylor a single digit score.

Let's add in that Pak have not put in a complete performance yet- that's due too.
Joke post
 
Pakistan has the tendency to beat the team top of the table and/or the most hyped team before the tournament. Has already done the later, now time to do the former. Pakistan will win this.
 
Obviously Nz.

Pakistan will drop Guptil Williamson and Taylor thrice... And then miss a simple runout of CDG who will play a cameo and win it for Nz..

In terms of batting, Imam and Fakhar will flop against the pace, swing and bounce of Boult, Ferguson and company. Harris and Babar will give us hope before Nz will pull off a crazy catch or runout to trigger a Pakistani collapse.

End of dreams for Sarfaraz and the nation.

Oh and we will have the same problems that we r discussing today in 2023
 
I recon the Birmingham crowed will play a key role. This is a home game for Pakistan and New Zealand have just about hung on to beat West Indies, Bangladesh and South Africa (three sides that are unlikely to qualify).
 
Abdullah said:
Lol if you want to look at it like that, then Kane is due a golden duck and Taylor a single digit score.

Let's add in that Pak have not put in a complete performance yet- that's due too.
Joke post
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Pakistan has put up a decent performance against South Africa. Do you think Pakistan can repeat the same show against New Zealand? Expecting back to back win and similar performance is too much to ask from the current lot.

Pakistan can fall like a pack of cards but the same can't be said about New Zealand.
 
Rana said:
I recon the Birmingham crowed will play a key role. This is a home game for Pakistan and New Zealand have just about hung on to beat West Indies, Bangladesh and South Africa (three sides that are unlikely to qualify).
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Agreed. We have a chance just need to take it deep
 
We have to take catches and be make sure we hit the stumps more often than not then we can be in with a chance.
 
Pakistan is still struggling with two major facets. That is fielding and running between the wickets, they won't win until this is rectified.
 
NZ. They will kill us off due to the ridiculous chances we drop every game. We drop Taylor once and he will destroy us, which he's done before. For us to win fielding has to be spot on. Which I can't see it being, if it is spot on in the field we have a chance but only if we bat first. I can't see us chase 280+ against Boult.
 
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Pak will win, insha Allah. It would help if we batted first again, if not then NZ will be favourites.
 
Pakpak said:
NZ. They will kill us off due to the ridiculous chances we drop every game. We drop Taylor once and he will destroy us, which he's done before. For us to win fielding has to be spot on. Which I can't see it being, if it is spot on in the field we have a chance but only if we bat first. I can't see us chase 280+ against Boult.
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We dropped him twice to be fair
 
GrandMaster said:
It's not all about Kane.

Munro and Latham - law of average catching up, they are due to perform.
Kane - In form
Taylor - In form
Neesham - Descructive
CDG - better version of Afridi

It's hard to accept that all of them will fail against Pakistan. And believe it or not, NZ tail is the best of the lot.
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According to law of averages Fakhar and Imam are due a big score too
 
Like I've been saying NZ are probably the easiest team to beat out of the top 4 right now, just get KW and Taylor early and it's game over for them.
 
QalandarFan said:
Like I've been saying NZ are probably the easiest team to beat out of the top 4 right now, just get KW and Taylor early and it's game over for them.
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Yes, we need to get KW out early and Pak should win easily after that. McCullum, Ronchi, and Andersen aren't there and Guptil has been largely invisible.
 
NZ have been too reliant on Williamson and Taylor. Pakistan have to field tightly and not give anything away against these 2, if Pak can get them out early then NZ's fragile middle order will be exposed.

There might be some turn on offer, but there is rain forecasted for the 2 days prior to the match.
 
Kiwis are an overrated bunch and due a failure, expect PCT to crush them.
 
BaankeJi said:
I think Pakistan has woken up now. Inducting H Sohail is a testament to that.
It will be difficult for others to stop them now.

World cup is all about momentum.
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If the World cup is all about momentum, then how are they supposed to stop NZ, who've won 5 games on the bounce?
 
nz might be a case of simply peaking too early..well they have played against weak opposition so far..they will be tested now
 
We absolutely have to get Guptill, Munro, and especially KW and Ross Taylor early

Then we are very much in the game and can control it
 
Reckon NZ will win this. They've won a lot of cricket against Pakistan in the last few years. They're also a solid professional team that you know will always put up a fight. If Pakistan play their best cricket they'll have a chance. But if not NZ will win.
 
The pitch will play a big part in this - hope we get slow south Asian type wicket which will nullify bolt and co.
 
Our batting is the key now. If we cross 300, we are 80% favoured to win. Bowling is not the strong suit anymore. We have to bat first in all matches.
 
NZ are due a bad game
Pakistan unlikely to win two in a row
Nz are comfortable batting 1st or 2nd
Pakistan cant chase
Pakistan spin department is better than NZ
NZ pace attack has an edge
NZ lack a proper 5th bowler
Pakistan fielding is bad

Some points to ponder
 
NZ have historically been Pakistan's punching bag for years but as of recent since 2015 they've been a formidable team that has trounced us repeatedly. They've been winning too many games recently but they're due a loss. That loss against India and abuse from fans back home (and social media) is motivating us to do the best as we can in the WC. Inshallah we will win.
 
Pakistan have a history of dropping lots of catches when NZ is playing.
I think in two matches in recent years they dropped Ross Taylor a few times and he ended up making a big score.
In one Test match they dropped about 7 catches in one innings..
 
Bahnz said:
Reckon NZ will win this. They've won a lot of cricket against Pakistan in the last few years. They're also a solid professional team that you know will always put up a fight. If Pakistan play their best cricket they'll have a chance. But if not NZ will win.
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How likely is it for Pakistan to bat, bowl and field well in the same match?
That is what is needed in this match.
 
Pakistan have to be at the top of their game against NZ, do everything with precision. Bat well and bat to a good score, keeping in mind the ground doesn ot have very many giant scores. Another total around 280-310 would be perfect first up. Oh and do not drop catches!
 
Can't drop a catch and Babar needs to bat better than he did in the last game.
Fakhar needs to get us off to a flier and a double strike when we bowl up front will be great.

The crowd will do the rest ( by that I mean in the windies game NZ were 7-2, but if we get them like that the crowd will make it feel like something else!!)
 
NZ, they are already almost in the semi while it's a do or die for Pak, and we all know Pak could lose to Uganda when it comes to playing a pressure match.
 
RSA was a pressure game too

Pakistan don't have such psychological issues against England, RSA, NZ or even Australia as they have against India in World Cups.


If Pak bat first and bat well, then they have a chance. You should always bat first after winning the toss in ODIs unless it is overcast conditions or a damp pitch. There is something called scoreboard pressure. And ocourse …. cannot afford to drop so many catches again.
 
It's going to be difficult for Pakistan.

The H2H record between these two sides in the last 13 completed matches is 12-1 to New Zealand.

That's even more one-sided than India-Pakistan match-ups.

But it's about having one good day. If Pakistan pulls this off though it's going to be an upset.
 
More than its fielding, Pakistan 2nd bowling option is consistently failing. Pakistan never needed its batting, its bowlers won them the matches. Once other Pak bowlers get into form, this team will be tough to beat. Unfortunately raw u19 bowlers like shaheen and hasnain were selected so that Wahab riaz gets all games. Experience was made an excuse to select Shoaib Malik, and World Cup probables like Faheem, Junaid and Shinwari were plucked out to get a bowler who has not played an odi for last 2 years. Junaid and Shinwari absence has cost Pakistan badly. Team management gets unfairly blamed for the resources they have been given by selectors.
 
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Bahnz said:
If the World cup is all about momentum, then how are they supposed to stop NZ, who've won 5 games on the bounce?
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Because ALL of NZs games won bar Afgh & Lanka have been very close games that could have gone either way.

It be one thing if NZ was thrashing them like Aus of old.
 
Probably NZ as they are a far more professional team than us and if we drop the amount of catches we did in the last game NZ will crush us.
 
Looks like most people think Pakistan will win.

That's a shame.

Everyone knows by now that Pak will only show up when nobody expects anything from them.

NZ will win.
 
Chokli said:
Because ALL of NZs games won bar Afgh & Lanka have been very close games that could have gone either way.

It be one thing if NZ was thrashing them like Aus of old.
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You're wrong. Then they would be "peaking too early". :ashwin
 
New Zealand, they are playing quality cricket consistently, Pakistan are too much of a hit and miss team...most fans are hoping they hit and New Zealand misses on Wednesday.
 
ak619 said:
It's going to be difficult for Pakistan.

The H2H record between these two sides in the last 13 completed matches is 12-1 to New Zealand.

That's even more one-sided than India-Pakistan match-ups.

But it's about having one good day. If Pakistan pulls this off though it's going to be an upset.
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Tbf last ODI series rain saved them and it ended 1-1 but you're correct they have thrashed us.
 
If Pakistan field well, I believe we can win! Their batting is over reliant on Willamson. If Pakistan bat first and get a decent score, a win is possible. Also there will be a LOT of Pakistan support, I believe we can play a role in helping Pakistan
 
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