Why are some Indians so obsessed to defend anything related to their country? Is it ultranationalism or something else?

[RizwanT20Champ]

Excellent question and the answer is it depends on whether I rennounce my aussie citizenship or not.

But dw, Pakistan will never implement such a policy. Lets not stick to What Ifs. The day this happens, you will know my decision mate.

Excellent answer brother. Both Australia and Pakistan are proud to have you. Any nation would be proud to have you. Based on your PP posting alone, I am surprised more countries are not lining up to offer you citizenship.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

@Tera Gawaandi is in my hitlist from now onwards for that rant. He is clearly either

• not Indian
• anti national
• one of that lot

You cannot disrespect Bharat maata like this in open forum otherwise.

You need to stop posting after getting repeatedly owned by brother @Bhaag Viru Bhaag

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Excellent answer brother. Both Australia and Pakistan are proud to have you. Any nation would be proud to have you. Based on your PP posting alone, I am surprised more countries are not lining up to offer you citizenship.

He would be an asset to any country. His passion is unmatched, and he resolutely defends his position.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

He would be an asset to any country. His passion is unmatched, and he resolutely defends his position.

Definitely is. What I find most remarkable is his grasp of the English language in addition to his ability to always back up what he says with pure facts based on numbers and truths. You can go a lifetime without finding even a typo from Momin brother much less an unverified or made up number.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Definitely is. What I find most remarkable is his grasp of the English language in addition to his ability to always back up what he says with pure facts based on numbers and truths. You can go a lifetime without finding even a typo from Momin brother much less an unverified or made up number.

I haven't engaged with his posts in such eagle eye detail, but will look out for it now that you mention it.

 

[mominsaigol]

@Tera Gawaandi is in my hitlist from now onwards for that rant. He is clearly either

• not Indian
• anti national
• one of that lot

You cannot disrespect Bharat maata like this in open forum otherwise.

I disrespect you all the time and you can do absolutely nothing about it other then ignoring or pinging cheerleaders to help. Sit down before I bring my shoe out.

 

[mominsaigol]

Excellent answer brother. Both Australia and Pakistan are proud to have you. Any nation would be proud to have you. Based on your PP posting alone, I am surprised more countries are not lining up to offer you citizenship.

I can techincally get a NZ passport as well. But no, too much. 2 nationalities are fine. Am not spending another 4+ years in another country.

 

[RexRex]

He would be an asset to any country. His passion is unmatched, and he resolutely defends his position.

I haven't seen a more immature poster.

 

[Rajdeep]

I disrespect you all the time and you can do absolutely nothing about it other then ignoring or pinging cheerleaders to help. Sit down before I bring my shoe out.

Did you quote me by mistake? We are no longer in talking terms, remember?

 

[mominsaigol]

Did you quote me by mistake? We are no longer in talking terms, remember?

Did you quote me by mistake? We are no longer in talking terms

Does it look like a mistake?

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

I can techincally get a NZ passport as well. But no, too much. 2 nationalities are fine. Am not spending another 4+ years in another country.

Wow bro!!! For someone so young, you have achieved so much. New Zealand would be blessed to have you I am sure. Do consider it.

 

[emranabbas]

So if tomorrow your country of birth passes a law forbidding dual citizenship does that mean you will suddenly become a scum by your own definition ?

The Constitution of India does not allow the holding of Indian citizenship with that of a foreign country simultaneously. so I have this question for you too?

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

People who are rich usually don't shout it out loudly in the streets like you seem to do regularly. #liar

Momina bro never lies. He is one of my favorites here.

 

[JaDed]

Now that I am free I will comment.

All immigrants who abaondoned their country yet have the audacity to support their home country knowing full well that they are doing jiggly jack to contribute are scum of the earth.

How exactly are people like you, @Vikram1989 and many others helping india? Or showcasing any nationalism? By paying taxes to a foreign country?

In my scenario I choose to keep both of my passports hence am recognised as a sovereign citizen of both countries. I passed by day in the life test for aus passport and am proud of its culture and norms and of my PK status.

However if an immigrants embraces their new home like many of our fellow UK Pakistani citizens have then I see no issue.

Similarly the sins of a father cannot be born upon the children. A father being a deserting scum cannot go towards the child who is influenced by the father who has turned his child into a scum.

Ik people hate kim john un but he isn't wrong about everything. Excellent policy to keep his citizens locked up in one land. Why shpuld they desert? While I disagree with his crazy antics, I agree with this one.

We need more policies that prevent desertion and keep nations like India and China land locked to their country for good.

I however should obviously excluded from this policy as I am not scum.

What’s embracing the new home any example, also India doesn't allow dual citizenship just like China Nepal.

It took me a moment to understand you gave an analogy of Kim lol… here let me put it this way, Indians and Chinese over centuries for majority of them on this earth never immigrated anywhere except starting in last 2 centuries, do you know who kept coming from their land?

 

[mominsaigol]

What’s embracing the new home any example, also India doesn't allow dual citizenship just like China Nepal.

It took me a moment to understand you gave an analogy of Kim lol… here let me put it this way, Indians and Chinese over centuries for majority of them on this earth never immigrated anywhere except starting in last 2 centuries, do you know who kept coming from their land?

Old gen has zero relevance. We are talking about the modern century. Idc about dead people.

 

[mominsaigol]

People who are rich usually don't shout it out loudly in the streets like you seem to do regularly #liar

News flash watching a bunch of dhar mann videos and preaching their nonsense quotes entails nothing.

You may believe what you wish bro.

 

[sweep_shot]

You can defend your country in your own platform. Nobody cares. It is your platform. You can do whatever.

But, when you visit non-Indian platforms and tell them what to say, that's where the issue is.

 

[sweep_shot]

Entire subcontinent is third world with lots of problems.

Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Nepalese, Sri Lankans etc. recognize it. Indians don't. That's the difference.

Indians think India is NUMBER ONE in everything and they can't tolerate any criticism of India which is absurd.

Anyway, I recently saw a video where the speaker was highlighting how Chinese people accept criticism and make themselves better while Indians always get defensive. Here is the video:

 

[Rajdeep]

You can defend your country in your own platform. Nobody cares. It is your platform. You can do whatever.

But, when you visit non-Indian platforms and tell them what to say, that's where the issue is.

But this thread is a charge against Indians and so Indians have all the right to defend themselves.

Not sure why you guys are so scared of running away from debates and counter arguements.

Also, this is a Pakistani platform and you are a Bangladeshi whom they kicked out in 1971 FYI.

 

[mominsaigol]

But this thread is a charge against Indians and so Indians have all the right to defend themselves.

Not sure why you guys are so scared of running away from debates and counter arguements.

Also, this is a Pakistani platform and you are a Bangladeshi whom they kicked out in 1971 FYI.

So how do Indians defend themsleves from me? By ignoring me while I continue to trample them like they trampled theirnown just to visit RCB?

Wow what a way to defend yourself. As for @sweep_shot did you forget that this is an open forumn as long as people are respectful to one another? Just like I am respectful towards anyone who doesn't irritate me.

 

[Rajdeep]

So how do Indians defend themsleves from me? By ignoring me while I continue to trample them like they trampled theirnown just to visit RCB?

Wow what a way to defend yourself. As for @sweep_shot did you forget that this is an open forumn as long as people are respectful to one another? Just like I am respectful towards anyone who doesn't irritate me.

I dont think there is anyone good enough from our camp to take you on brother. So pardon our excuse of not trying to engage with you

 

[sweep_shot]

So how do Indians defend themsleves from me? By ignoring me while I continue to trample them like they trampled theirnown just to visit RCB?

Wow what a way to defend yourself. As for @sweep_shot did you forget that this is an open forumn as long as people are respectful to one another? Just like I am respectful towards anyone who doesn't irritate me.

These Indians act like this is an Indian platform and they can behave as they please.

They forget they are guests here and they are insulting the hosts (i.e., Pakistanis).

 

[mominsaigol]

I dont think there is anyone good enough from our camp to take you on brother. So pardon our excuse of not trying to engage with you

Don't call me brother, you lost that right when you, actually tbh I have forgotten why I got mad at you lol.

Remind me why I got mad at you in the 1st place cause I forgot. Once you Remind me, I will use that against you and Remind you of your sins.

 

[mominsaigol]

These Indians act like this is an Indian platform and they can behave as they please.

They forget they are guests here and they are insulting the hosts (i.e., Pakistanis).

They forgot they are clowns here

 

[mominsaigol]

Don't call me brother, you lost that right when you, actually tbh I have forgotten why I got mad at you lol.

Remind me why I got mad at you in the 1st place cause I forgot. Once you Remind me, I will use that against you and Remind you of your sins.

The thing is rajdeep has stated so much nonsense, even ive lost count of all this rubbish

 

[JaDed]

Old gen has zero relevance. We are talking about the modern century. Idc about dead people.

So you don’t care about religion? If you don’t care about dead people why do you care about religions or countries created by old people?
Try to have a better train of thought.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

1. It's a poor unsophisticated nation and does not know how to admit faults. No one has time to go to woods and contemplate life and purpose. Life goes at brisk pace in India. Schooling is traumatic, parents tie you down with a stranger, soon you make babies and hit midlife crisis.

2. DNA, Remember Gypsies came out of Indian Rajasthan and are despised all over Europe for their uncivilized behaviour. Deep down desi's despise other races and cultures, they worship whites (for monetary gains, sexual pleasures etc) and at same time judge them for their lifestyle. They only assimilate when not huge in numbers, but in numbers in a small community they go back to their despicable lifestyle. We are seeing different results now in uncontrolled immigration compared to 80s-2000s.

3. They believe in some wacko stuff, imagine having to worship a monkey god, rat god and what not. It's embarrassing and puts them on self defence mode. That's why to this day they keep yapping that subcontinent Sikhs and Muslims are Hindu converts.

4. It's a hysterical, hyper superstitious country, always playing victim hood. Blaming Kala Jaaduu for their misfortunes, buri nazar etc. Indians leave Africans in dirt when it comes to belief in voodoo and cult stuff, every district has it's own baba known to have magical powers.

5. Regressive society, leading to situations like 'please send bob and vegganay photos'. If not for Britishers, they would still be practising Sati. They like to stare at women, despite ranking at bottom in terms of attractiveness among all races.

6. Indians reek and rank lowest in hygiene, they like to keep their house somewhat clean but litter everywhere outside, and pollute rivers with their stupid rituals and defecate wherever they want.

7. Unhealthy carb driven diet, seeing a fit Indian is a rarity, they are sick in body and mind. That's why few good looking Indians become run away success.

I came back just to see this post. I am jealous and disappointed that I couldn't write something so beautiful

 

[mominsaigol]

So you don’t care about religion? If you don’t care about dead people why do you care about religions or countries created by old people?
Try to have a better train of thought.

What does religion have anything to do with Indians running away from their country? And renouncing their passport?

Nonsense logic.

 

[JaDed]

What does religion have anything to do with Indians running away from their country? And renouncing their passport?

Nonsense logic.

Is your tagline goal post shifting? You started with you don’t care about dead people and only current stuff .. so

 

[LordJames]

1. It's a poor unsophisticated nation and does not know how to admit faults. No one has time to go to woods and contemplate life and purpose. Life goes at brisk pace in India. Schooling is traumatic, parents tie you down with a stranger, soon you make babies and hit midlife crisis.

2. DNA, Remember Gypsies came out of Indian Rajasthan and are despised all over Europe for their uncivilized behaviour. Deep down desi's despise other races and cultures, they worship whites (for monetary gains, sexual pleasures etc) and at same time judge them for their lifestyle. They only assimilate when not huge in numbers, but in numbers in a small community they go back to their despicable lifestyle. We are seeing different results now in uncontrolled immigration compared to 80s-2000s.

3. They believe in some wacko stuff, imagine having to worship a monkey god, rat god and what not. It's embarrassing and puts them on self defence mode. That's why to this day they keep yapping that subcontinent Sikhs and Muslims are Hindu converts.

4. It's a hysterical, hyper superstitious country, always playing victim hood. Blaming Kala Jaaduu for their misfortunes, buri nazar etc. Indians leave Africans in dirt when it comes to belief in voodoo and cult stuff, every district has it's own baba known to have magical powers.

5. Regressive society, leading to situations like 'please send bob and vegganay photos'. If not for Britishers, they would still be practising Sati. They like to stare at women, despite ranking at bottom in terms of attractiveness among all races.

6. Indians reek and rank lowest in hygiene, they like to keep their house somewhat clean but litter everywhere outside, and pollute rivers with their stupid rituals and defecate wherever they want.

7. Unhealthy carb driven diet, seeing a fit Indian is a rarity, they are sick in body and mind. That's why few good looking Indians become run away success.

I agree to a large extent.

Many Indians seem to carry an inferiority complex about their religion and culture. That’s why some present themselves as atheists or agnostics, and when they do identify as Hindus, they often avoid meaningful discussion. In fact, most Hindus don’t follow any clear belief system or structured practice.
​

India is still a poor, third-world country with widespread poverty, often masked by loud, jingoistic Hindutva—something obvious to anyone who has visited.

Economically and in terms of infrastructure, India has failed compared to its true peer, China. Instead, it prefers to compare itself with a much smaller neighbor, Pakistan, using selective metrics to soothe its ego. When they get their backside handed to them by Pakistan, I can understand why it would deeply hurt!

There are many (online and elsewhere) who try to attack Islam unsuccessfully (by stealing ideas from White Missionaries but lack the depth to sustain a conversation), but none stand firmly on their own beliefs or engage academically. The Hindu inferiority complex runs so deep that some even attempt to present their scriptures as equal in preservation, transmission, and authenticity to Islam—when in reality, they are not.​

 

[mominsaigol]

Is your tagline goal post shifting? You started with you don’t care about dead people and only current stuff .. so

Ironic, considering my post was about indians abandoning their country and you responded with 200 years ago, Americans and British came to us .

Like *** . What relevance does it have now, and they didn't come to settle in your land, they came to invade, Conquer and bankrupt your land . They weren't fetching for passports not that Passports existed back then

 

[JaDed]

1. It's a poor unsophisticated nation and does not know how to admit faults. No one has time to go to woods and contemplate life and purpose. Life goes at brisk pace in India. Schooling is traumatic, parents tie you down with a stranger, soon you make babies and hit midlife crisis.

2. DNA, Remember Gypsies came out of Indian Rajasthan and are despised all over Europe for their uncivilized behaviour. Deep down desi's despise other races and cultures, they worship whites (for monetary gains, sexual pleasures etc) and at same time judge them for their lifestyle. They only assimilate when not huge in numbers, but in numbers in a small community they go back to their despicable lifestyle. We are seeing different results now in uncontrolled immigration compared to 80s-2000s.

3. They believe in some wacko stuff, imagine having to worship a monkey god, rat god and what not. It's embarrassing and puts them on self defence mode. That's why to this day they keep yapping that subcontinent Sikhs and Muslims are Hindu converts.

4. It's a hysterical, hyper superstitious country, always playing victim hood. Blaming Kala Jaaduu for their misfortunes, buri nazar etc. Indians leave Africans in dirt when it comes to belief in voodoo and cult stuff, every district has it's own baba known to have magical powers.

5. Regressive society, leading to situations like 'please send bob and vegganay photos'. If not for Britishers, they would still be practising Sati. They like to stare at women, despite ranking at bottom in terms of attractiveness among all races.

6. Indians reek and rank lowest in hygiene, they like to keep their house somewhat clean but litter everywhere outside, and pollute rivers with their stupid rituals and defecate wherever they want.

7. Unhealthy carb driven diet, seeing a fit Indian is a rarity, they are sick in body and mind. That's why few good looking Indians become run away success.

Missed this gem of a post from Brampton, the subtle digs ignored by my fellow Panjabis.

All you guys do is keep whining about stereotypes about Sikhs and yet so many about Hindus.

There is a reason why Sikhs are converting to Christianity at a massive rate it now makes sense, there is a lot of insecurity, it also makes sense why the scientific pedigree is almost at lowest levels in the world.

 

[JaDed]

Ironic, considering my post was about indians abandoning their country and you responded with 200 years ago, Americans and British came to us .

Like *** . What relevance does it have now, and they didn't come to settle in your land, they came to invade, Conquer and bankrupt your land . They weren't fetching for passports not that Passports existed back then

You think Brits directly came to invade?

 

[JaDed]

The thread went from India to Hinduism, might as well go on colour next.

 

[LordJames]

The thread went from India to Hinduism, might as well go on colour next.

Unfortunately, the loud, bombastic, and abusive behavior of Hindutva extremists overshadows the majority of decent Indians—non-Hindutva Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Muslims, and Parsis.

I have good Sikh friends who visited Pakistan for Kartarpur and are highly influential; they’ve met Sikhs from India who faced obstacles from their government and have grown increasingly hostile toward India. I have been to Sikh places of worship (East and West) and never been abused and they have come to our Mosques with no issues.

I have good South Indian Christian friends and we discuss and we have disagreements but we interact in a decent manner and we interact and we eat and drink together.

The Hindutva brigade has made it impossible for us to ignore what they are doing.

Meanwhile, most non-Sikhs—Christians and Hindus alike—remain silent on human rights abuses against Dalits, Christians, and Muslims, which ends up painting the whole of India with the same Hindutva brush.

 

[mominsaigol]

You think Brits directly came to invade?

The thread went from India to Hinduism, might as well go on colour next.

Let me rephrase, my original point, indians claim they are patriotic.

Yet they renounced their rights to be classified as an indian citizen and aren't doing jiggly jack to better their country.

These selfish wannabee's have abandoned their country in order to contribute to another either via jobs + taxes, Business + taxes or whatever.

This is the opposite of nationalism and patriotism. Very easy to whine in a cricket forumn in comparison . So much for India no 1 when they have chosen to abandon their so called beloved country.

British India, and any other nonsense you bring up is irrelevant

 

[JaDed]

Let me rephrase, my original point, indians claim they are patriotic.

Yet they renounced their rights to be classified as an indian citizen and aren't doing jiggly jack to better their country.

These selfish wannabee's have abandoned their country in order to contribute to another either via jobs + taxes, Business + taxes or whatever.

This is the opposite of nationalism and patriotism. Very easy to whine in a cricket forumn in comparison . So much for India no 1 when they have chosen to abandon their so called beloved country.

British India, and any other nonsense you bring up is irrelevant

Hyperbole much, there are many patriotic Indians in India staying there contributing to the country and not wasting time.

Yes they are truly patriotic, but its rich coming from Pakistanis with multiple passports, this forum itself is mostly a product of British Pakistanis..

 

[JaDed]

Unfortunately, the loud, bombastic, and abusive behavior of Hindutva extremists overshadows the majority of decent Indians—non-Hindutva Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Muslims, and Parsis.

I have good Sikh friends who visited Pakistan for Kartarpur and are highly influential; they’ve met Sikhs from India who faced obstacles from their government and have grown increasingly hostile toward India. I have been to Sikh places of worship (East and West) and never been abused and they have come to our Mosques with no issues.

I have good South Indian Christian friends and we discuss and we have disagreements but we interact in a decent manner and we interact and we eat and drink together.

The Hindutva brigade has made it impossible for us to ignore what they are doing.

Meanwhile, most non-Sikhs—Christians and Hindus alike—remain silent on human rights abuses against Dalits, Christians, and Muslims, which ends up painting the whole of India with the same Hindutva brush.

There are extremist everywhere, have the right wing Muslims made you overshadow the teachings of your religion?

Also on Sikhs and Dalits, let me break it out the most violence against Dalits is by Sikhs in Panjab, Jatts are extremely violent, the worse part is there are Gurudwaras in UK where they are separated on caste.

I have Sikhs in my family, my mother followed Sikhism,I have witnessed bigotry from every religion in India closeby esp Sikhs, upper caste Hindu, newly converted Christians.

 

[sweep_shot]

1. It's a poor unsophisticated nation and does not know how to admit faults. No one has time to go to woods and contemplate life and purpose. Life goes at brisk pace in India. Schooling is traumatic, parents tie you down with a stranger, soon you make babies and hit midlife crisis.

2. DNA, Remember Gypsies came out of Indian Rajasthan and are despised all over Europe for their uncivilized behaviour. Deep down desi's despise other races and cultures, they worship whites (for monetary gains, sexual pleasures etc) and at same time judge them for their lifestyle. They only assimilate when not huge in numbers, but in numbers in a small community they go back to their despicable lifestyle. We are seeing different results now in uncontrolled immigration compared to 80s-2000s.

3. They believe in some wacko stuff, imagine having to worship a monkey god, rat god and what not. It's embarrassing and puts them on self defence mode. That's why to this day they keep yapping that subcontinent Sikhs and Muslims are Hindu converts.

4. It's a hysterical, hyper superstitious country, always playing victim hood. Blaming Kala Jaaduu for their misfortunes, buri nazar etc. Indians leave Africans in dirt when it comes to belief in voodoo and cult stuff, every district has it's own baba known to have magical powers.

5. Regressive society, leading to situations like 'please send bob and vegganay photos'. If not for Britishers, they would still be practising Sati. They like to stare at women, despite ranking at bottom in terms of attractiveness among all races.

6. Indians reek and rank lowest in hygiene, they like to keep their house somewhat clean but litter everywhere outside, and pollute rivers with their stupid rituals and defecate wherever they want.

7. Unhealthy carb driven diet, seeing a fit Indian is a rarity, they are sick in body and mind. That's why few good looking Indians become run away success.

Great post.

Great to see an Indian writing a self-critical post. Low-IQ sanghis can learn from you.

 

[mominsaigol]

Hyperbole much, there are many patriotic Indians in India staying there contributing to the country and not wasting time.

Yes they are truly patriotic, but its rich coming from Pakistanis with multiple passports, this forum itself is mostly a product of British Pakistanis..

Cool story bro, but I was referencing the overseas clowns on this forumn. They are my main target, not indians living in india.

And wdym its rich? I have 2 passports(aus and PK), I did not rennounce either? Whats wrong with that? How is that = to renouncing your rights?

And? You guys literally live on this open forumn talking rubbish about pakistani's yet cant migrate or stay on your own indian forumns? Weird that most of you despise pakistani's, yet for some reason are using their products.

Anyway your 3rd point is irrelevant and isnt related to what I said. When it comes to your 1st 2 points.

A) How is it relevant when I am targeting the overseas lot?

B) How is it relevant to me when I havent renounced mine? Is it wrong to have 2 passports? Also the onoy reason I went to uni + temporarily worked in AU along with my dad in the first place was to acquire a passport via the 190 subclass route and then passport route.

Aus passport allows visa free travel to 190 countries + an exclusive E3 visa which allows for work rights in usa without the need for sponsorship or any visa cap(their is a visa cap of 10,500 but to this daye it has never been filled) making it far far superior to that Donkey H1-B system.

As well as some exclusive benefits to the MENA region and NZ.

That's why I went to acquire it as I realised during my bachelors years, UK was a fore gone conclusion, besides it didnt really offer much.

You may call me a passport digger sure. Idc. Atleast I never renounced my passports. Infact im sitting in PK as we speak.

I went for a sole mission to acquire a passport and achieved it. I didnt go for the mission of abandoning my nation.

 

[Rajdeep]

I agree to a large extent.

Many Indians seem to carry an inferiority complex about their religion and culture. That’s why some present themselves as atheists or agnostics, and when they do identify as Hindus, they often avoid meaningful discussion. In fact, most Hindus don’t follow any clear belief system or structured practice.
​

India is still a poor, third-world country with widespread poverty, often masked by loud, jingoistic Hindutva—something obvious to anyone who has visited.

Economically and in terms of infrastructure, India has failed compared to its true peer, China. Instead, it prefers to compare itself with a much smaller neighbor, Pakistan, using selective metrics to soothe its ego. When they get their backside handed to them by Pakistan, I can understand why it would deeply hurt!

There are many (online and elsewhere) who try to attack Islam unsuccessfully (by stealing ideas from White Missionaries but lack the depth to sustain a conversation), but none stand firmly on their own beliefs or engage academically. The Hindu inferiority complex runs so deep that some even attempt to present their scriptures as equal in preservation, transmission, and authenticity to Islam—when in reality, they are not.​

Muslims are known as Terrorists all over the world because they try to over exert their religion on others.

Indians are better off the way they are. Dont lecture us.

 

[JaDed]

Cool story bro, but I was referencing the overseas clowns on this forumn. They are my main target, not indians living in india.

And wdym its rich? I have 2 passports(aus and PK), I did not rennounce either? Whats wrong with that? How is that = to renouncing your rights?

And? You guys literally live on this open forumn talking rubbish about pakistani's yet cant migrate or stay on your own indian forumns? Weird that most of you despise pakistani's, yet for some reason are using their products.

Anyway your 3rd point is irrelevant and isnt related to what I said. When it comes to your 1st 2 points.

A) How is it relevant when I am targeting the overseas lot?

B) How is it relevant to me when I havent renounced mine? Is it wrong to have 2 passports? Also the onoy reason I went to uni + temporarily worked in AU along with my dad in the first place was to acquire a passport via the 190 subclass route and then passport route.

Aus passport allows visa free travel to 190 countries + an exclusive E3 visa which allows for work rights in usa without the need for sponsorship or any visa cap(their is a visa cap of 10,500 but to this daye it has never been filled) making it far far superior to that Donkey H1-B system.

As well as some exclusive benefits to the MENA region and NZ.

That's why I went to acquire it as I realised during my bachelors years, UK was a fore gone conclusion, besides it didnt really offer much.

You may call me a passport digger sure. Idc. Atleast I never renounced my passports. Infact im sitting in PK as we speak.

I went for a sole mission to acquire a passport and achieved it. I didnt go for the mission of abandoning my nation.

Nothing wrong in having two passports I’m sure that’s very patriotic of you to have two passports, congratulations on embracing all countries but being patriotic.

This is an awesome forum and hence people flock here.
It’s similar to how so many Pakistanis dislike America but love to use google , Iphone etc etc..

 

[mominsaigol]

Nothing wrong in having two passports I’m sure that’s very patriotic of you to have two passports, congratulations on embracing all countries but being patriotic.

This is an awesome forum and hence people flock here.
It’s similar to how so many Pakistanis dislike America but love to use google , Iphone etc etc..

I dont dislike America? Lol. Anyway like I said the issue isn't indians on this forumn. I have no problems.

The issue is people who irritate me. I see nothing wrong with attacking them.

Anyway again what's this got to do with the overall topic?

Nationalism via rennouncment?

All i said was You can't be patriotic if you abandoned your home country and your identity?

I don't see why you are trying to counter this by claiming indians who live in india are excluded? Obviously they are excluded? Lol. Did I claim they aren't?

Topic was overseas indians being hypocrites. Not all of them, but the ones who claim to be loyal to their country.

News flash supporting a cricket team and talking about how great your country is overseas =/= being loyal to your country lol.

This so called dil to hindustan hai is crapola uttered from their mouths.

 

[Major]

Muslims are known as Terrorists all over the world because they try to over exert their religion on others.

Indians are better off the way they are. Dont lecture us.

So Indian Muslims are not Indian?

 

[uppercut]

I don't deal in what aboutism, ifs, buts, could have, would have, should have.

Once the policy is implemented only then a decison will be made.​

I already got the answer, when you chickened out... and it's laughable how you’re out here hurling insults when you are the poster child of stupidity on PP and get pwned by Indian posters on a daily basis. You call immigrants who cherish their roots “scum,” yet you’re the one who fled your terror-factory homeland to latch onto Western comforts like a spineless leech. Clinging to dual passports with zero integrity, you’ve got no right to lecture anyone on loyalty.

especially when your “sovereign citizen” nonsense falls apart the second either country bans dual citizenship. What then, genius? You’ll have to pick: your *****-factory ( btw now officially classified as a dump truck by your own Gernail lol ) or the West you’re too weak to leave. Bet you’ll be crying over your keyboards then. And contributions? You can’t even calculate an average and worse you support policies of a bonafide dictator like Kim, so the odds of you holding a real job are as dead as your logic or thinner than your spine. You’re just a freeloader spewing drivel online and the real scum and a illiterate coward who dodges questions to hide his flimsy, hypocritical contradictions.

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[HalBass9]

I already got the answer, when you chickened out... and it's laughable how you’re out here hurling insults when you are the poster child of stupidity on PP and get pwned by Indian posters on a daily basis. You call immigrants who cherish their roots “scum,” yet you’re the one who fled your terror-factory homeland to latch onto Western comforts like a spineless leech. Clinging to dual passports with zero integrity, you’ve got no right to lecture anyone on loyalty.

especially when your “sovereign citizen” nonsense falls apart the second either country bans dual citizenship. What then, genius? You’ll have to pick: your terror-factory ( btw now officially classified as a dump truck by your own Gernail lol ) or the West you’re too weak to leave. Bet you’ll be crying over your keyboards then. And contributions? You can’t even calculate an average and worse you support policies of a bonafide dictator like Kim, so the odds of you holding a real job are as dead as your logic or thinner than your spine. You’re just a freeloader spewing drivel online and the real scum and a illiterate coward who dodges questions to hide his flimsy, hypocritical contradictions.

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[HalBass9]

Muslims are known as Terrorists all over the world because they try to over exert their religion on others.

Indians are better off the way they are. Dont lecture us.

Of course, Indians think Irfan Pathan is a terrorist.

 

[mominsaigol]

I already got the answer, when you chickened out... and it's laughable how you’re out here hurling insults when you are the poster child of stupidity on PP and get pwned by Indian posters on a daily basis. You call immigrants who cherish their roots “scum,” yet you’re the one who fled your terror-factory homeland to latch onto Western comforts like a spineless leech. Clinging to dual passports with zero integrity, you’ve got no right to lecture anyone on loyalty.

especially when your “sovereign citizen” nonsense falls apart the second either country bans dual citizenship. What then, genius? You’ll have to pick: your terror-factory ( btw now officially classified as a dump truck by your own Gernail lol ) or the West you’re too weak to leave. Bet you’ll be crying over your keyboards then. And contributions? You can’t even calculate an average and worse you support policies of a bonafide dictator like Kim, so the odds of you holding a real job are as dead as your logic or thinner than your spine. You’re just a freeloader spewing drivel online and the real scum and a illiterate coward who dodges questions to hide his flimsy, hypocritical contradictions.

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Lol I guess i hit a nerve. I appreciate that it took you 8+ hrs to comment this .

Also before I respond, im sitting in pakistan right now .

I'll guess you a chance to edit your comments bro.

 

[Rajdeep]

So Indian Muslims are not Indian?

I am sure you are smart enough to understand he was not talking about muslims when he said Indians are insecure towards their religion. Not sure who has given right to this madrasa jobber to speak about others religion. He will get response in same tone obviously.

 

[HalBass9]

I am sure you are smart enough to understand he was not talking about muslims when he said Indians are insecure towards their religion. Not sure who has given right to this madrasa jobber to speak about others religion. He will get response in same tone obviously.

If Indians weren’t then they wouldn’t be forcing every Muslim in India to chant Jay Sri Ram

 

[mominsaigol]

I already got the answer, when you chickened out... and it's laughable how you’re out here hurling insults when you are the poster child of stupidity on PP and get pwned by Indian posters on a daily basis. You call immigrants who cherish their roots “scum,” yet you’re the one who fled your terror-factory homeland to latch onto Western comforts like a spineless leech. Clinging to dual passports with zero integrity, you’ve got no right to lecture anyone on loyalty.

especially when your “sovereign citizen” nonsense falls apart the second either country bans dual citizenship. What then, genius? You’ll have to pick: your terror-factory ( btw now officially classified as a dump truck by your own Gernail lol ) or the West you’re too weak to leave. Bet you’ll be crying over your keyboards then. And contributions? You can’t even calculate an average and worse you support policies of a bonafide dictator like Kim, so the odds of you holding a real job are as dead as your logic or thinner than your spine. You’re just a freeloader spewing drivel online and the real scum and a illiterate coward who dodges questions to hide his flimsy, hypocritical contradictions.

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especially when your “sovereign citizen” nonsense falls apart the second either country bans dual citizenship.

Good luck, . I love how indians are now begging Pakistan to ban dual citizenship lol.

I'll do you a solid, ill rennounce my aussie citizenship if Pakistan bans dual citizenship . Good luck on getting that to happen though

 

[sweep_shot]

Why do Indians demand answers from Pakistanis at a Pakistani forum? LOL. So cringy.

Nobody owes you guys answers about anything.

 

[mominsaigol]

Why do Indians demand answers from Pakistanis at a Pakistani forum? LOL. So cringy.

Nobody owes you guys answers about anything.

How can we give them answers if they don't even ask questions .

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Muslims are known as Terrorists all over the world because they try to over exert their religion on others.

Indians are better off the way they are. Dont lecture us.

Is Irfan Pathan a terrorist also, then why you lot angry on Shahid Afridi's comments calling him a non pashtun guy

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Muslims are known as Terrorists all over the world because they try to over exert their religion on others.

Indians are better off the way they are. Dont lecture us.

We have issues regarding how we are seen as a result of the behaviour of some followers and need to solve them.

 

[sweep_shot]

Is Irfan Pathan a terrorist also, then why you lot angry on Shahid Afridi's comments calling him a non pashtun guy

If they think Muslims are terrorists, what are they doing here? LOL.

Shouldn't they hang out with their fellow Hindus?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@Rajdeep Bhai pulled a genius move.

He has turned the thread on it's head. With one line he has made the Muslims obsessed to defend anything related to the behaviour of so called Muslims.

He pulled all your legs and you didnt realise

 

[uppercut]

especially when your “sovereign citizen” nonsense falls apart the second either country bans dual citizenship.

Good luck, . I love how indians are now begging Pakistan to ban dual citizenship lol.

I'll do you a solid, ill rennounce my aussie citizenship if Pakistan bans dual citizenship . Good luck on getting that to happen though

Does it occur to your small brain that you cannot claim to be loyal to two country's at the same time especially when they have massively conflicting laws/values ?

because your theocratic Pakistani hellhole( also known as the Dump truck ) is exactly opposite to the secular Aus ... you can’t serve two masters when one’s a secular democracy and the other’s a Sharia-soaked terror factory. Australia’s laws ... monogamy, interest, free speech etc ... spit in the face of Pakistan’s backward blasphemy codes and religious tyranny. Therefore you are the real scum if you do not denounce your Pakistani citizenship as the values of your dump-truck nation is squarely opposite to what Aus expects from its citizens.​

 

[Rajdeep]

If Indians weren’t then they wouldn’t be forcing every Muslim in India to chant Jay Sri Ram

Anyone can hide behind Afridi smiley and can give big statements. Unless you have taken a poll or conducted a survey where every Indian muslim have been forced to chant Jay Shri Ram, this is just hearsay.

Okay forget about all Indian muslims, just tag Indian muslim posters in this forum and ask them how many many of them have been forced on to do anything like that.

Kyon? #HaiHimmat?

 

[mominsaigol]

Does it occur to your small brain that you cannot claim to be loyal to two country's at the same time especially when they have massively conflicting laws/values ?

because your theocratic Pakistani hellhole( also known as the Dump truck ) is exactly opposite to the secular Aus ... you can’t serve two masters when one’s a secular democracy and the other’s a Sharia-soaked terror factory. Australia’s laws ... monogamy, interest, free speech etc ... spit in the face of Pakistan’s backward blasphemy codes and religious tyranny. Therefore you are the real scum if you do not denounce your Pakistani citizenship as the values of your dump-truck nation is squarely opposite to what Aus expects from its citizens.​

Let me dumb it down for you.

A) I'm a dual citizen, I am recognised by both states as one.

B) Overseas Indians however aren't. End of story. They are contributing to another country hence it automatically destroys their nationalism claim.

^^ This is a fact. No amount of insulting, Semantical reasoning, arguments or whatever perception you have towards both countries will ever change this fact.

You are obviously wrong about Pakistan however I will not get into that topic for 2 reasons.

A) its laughable you are preaching Pk and Aus's country values to me drapite never having stepped foot in either.

B) It's an argument out of anger and spite. We can argue semantics all day, but these 2 statements I presented are facts.

Counter these 2 statements with logic and then we shall see.

Until then all these nonsense hypotheticals or whatever your perception is about these 2 countries is irrelevant.

You can perceive Pakistan as North Korea and Australia as Antarctica for all I care.

 

[Rajdeep]

@Rajdeep Bhai pulled a genius move.

He has turned the thread on it's head. With one line he has made the Muslims obsessed to defend anything related to the behaviour of so called Muslims.

He pulled all your kachay down and you didnt realise

I don't like to offend anyone unless provoked but that guy is in my hitlist for a long time. Ever since he made that statement that if a war breaks out between India & Pakistan that will be end of Hinduism.

#KabhiAaoIndiaMein
#SwagSeKarengeSwagat

 

[mominsaigol]

Let me dumb it down for you.

A) I'm a dual citizen, I am recognised by both states as one.

B) Overseas Indians however aren't. End of story. They are contributing to another country hence it automatically destroys their nationalism claim.

^^ This is a fact. No amount of insulting, Semantical reasoning, arguments or whatever perception you have towards both countries will ever change this fact.

You are obviously wrong about Pakistan however I will not get into that topic for 2 reasons.

A) its laughable you are preaching Pk and Aus's country values to me drapite never having stepped foot in either.

B) It's an argument out of anger and spite. We can argue semantics all day, but these 2 statements I presented are facts.

Counter these 2 statements with logic and then we shall see.

Until then all these nonsense hypotheticals or whatever your perception is about these 2 countries is irrelevant.

You can perceive Pakistan as North Korea and Australia as Antarctica for all I care.

@uppercut YOU CANNOT CLAIM TO BE LOYAL TO BOTH.

Me: Why?

@uppercut Because Because Because Because

 

[uppercut]

The Constitution of India does not allow the holding of Indian citizenship with that of a foreign country simultaneously. so I have this question for you too?

I don't get it ... as I am not the one describing people as scum based on their passports

 

[mominsaigol]

I don't get it ... as I am not the one describing people as scum based on their passports

I am describing those who are claiming to be patriotic and nationalistic based of Passports as Scum.

Hilarious how you expect me to answer nonsense hypotheticals yet cant answer factual questions from @emranabbas .

Hilarious, but it is expected from Scum such as yourself.

 

[uppercut]

Let me dumb it down for you.

A) I'm a dual citizen, I am recognised by both states as one.

B) Overseas Indians however aren't. End of story. They are contributing to another country hence it automatically destroys their nationalism claim.

^^ This is a fact. No amount of insulting, Semantical reasoning, arguments or whatever perception you have towards both countries will ever change this fact.

Your “sovereign citizen” chest-thumping is a laughable sham, shredded by your own brain-dead hypocrisy. You boast about being “recognized” by both Australia and your theocratic Pakistani dumpster fire, but you can’t pledge loyalty to two systems that are at war with each other. And you are also contributing to Aus unless you are a freeloader living on Dole ... lol

You are obviously wrong about Pakistan however I will not get into that topic for 2 reasons.

the real reason is you will bet brutally pwned if you try .... you know that very well.

 

[mominsaigol]

Besides why do Indians even have an issue with me calling them Scum?

We have morons like @uppercut delusionally believing i cant hold a job because of my Kim John Un statement? Lol, how can I hold a job when I am literally a board member that owns the employees .

 

[sweep_shot]

Let's return to the topic of the thread. Indians are trying to derail this thread. Let's not let them do that.

 

[uppercut]

Besides why do Indians even have an issue with me calling them Scum?

We have morons like @uppercut delusionally believing i cant hold a job because of my Kim John Un statement? Lol, how can I hold a job when I am literally a board member that owns the employees .

You forgot your ability to do simple arithmetic ...

 

[mominsaigol]

Your “sovereign citizen” chest-thumping is a laughable sham, shredded by your own brain-dead hypocrisy. You boast about being “recognized” by both Australia and your theocratic Pakistani dumpster fire, but you can’t pledge loyalty to two systems that are at war with each other.



the real reason is you will bet brutally pwned if you try .... you know that very well.

Nothing more then crybaby bitter banter.

Answer A and B with facts and logic. Until then you can continue to chest pump yourself if it makes you sleep at night.

the real reason is you will bet brutally pwned if you try .... you know that very well.

Here's some facts for you mate.

A) 90% of indians have put me on the ignore list as all of them have admitted one thing.

- I'm either too brutal or too insulting to logically argue with and they cant handle being cussed 24/7.

Many of them have hidden behind the troll excuse, but most of them have directly or indirectly admitted to this fear.

So how exactly are indians owning me, when I make fun of them 24/7, and they dont have the power to do nothing about it? They dont have galls to reply, nor defend themsleves even at this point?

Even jeet blocked me after I exposed the reality of hindu gods being fake?

Like I said, I speak cold hard facts. It is not my fault the truth hurts and you give in.

You see I'm not a monster, I'm just a truthful guy. When I say you are dumb enough to literally trample your own over a RCB cricket team, you know I mean it.

 

[mominsaigol]

You forgot your ability to do simple arithmetic ...

Well since you're the math expert, you can enlighten me on the number of Indians with foreign passports and the no of trampled indians during the RCB incident.

 

[mominsaigol]

Let's return to the topic of the thread. Indians are trying to derail this thread. Let's not let them do that.

Obviously they are derailing this thread. Its 2nd nature to them. However I won't just stand around while 10 year old crybabies like @uppercut are throwing a hissyfit

 

[mominsaigol]

So the conclusion of this thread is that indians are desperate to defend anything related to their country is simply due to the fact that they are sc**.

Their you go, problem solved. Now was that so hard

 

[JaDed]

So the conclusion of this thread is that indians are desperate to defend anything related to their country is simply due to the fact that they are scum.

Their you go, problem solved. Now was that so hard

Whatever helps you sleep.

 

[mominsaigol]

Whatever helps you sleep.

Sorry, overseas Indians, not all Indians.

Forgot to add the overseas hashtag.

 

[JaDed]

Great post.

Great to see an Indian writing a self-critical post. Low-IQ sanghis can learn from you.

He is calling Indians “They”.. how is it self critical?

 

[Rajdeep]

So the conclusion of this thread is that indians are desperate to defend anything related to their country is simply due to the fact that they are sc**

Their you go, problem solved. Now was that so hard

Good....thread has been concluded

You can close this thread now brother @The Bald Eagle unless @sweep_shot has some additional questions

 

[JaDed]

Sorry, overseas Indians, not all Indians.

Forgot to add the overseas hashtag.

Sure.. add whatever you like.

 

[Rajdeep]

Sure.. add whatever you like.

Bro thinks he wins all debates. Seldom does he realize....

Anyway, let it go

#JokeAmIComedyToYou

 

[mominsaigol]

Good....thread has been concluded

You can close this thread now brother @The Bald Eagle unless @sweep_shot has some additional questions

It hasn't been concluded? I havent gotten to the local Indians yet?

I have only touched upon the overseas ones? Read the title of this thread. Ot states Indians, not overseas indians exclusively.

Right now I am tired and must head for bed, tmr I will discuss the other half.

The local indians feel the need to defend due to excessive procreating and child birth which I will touch upon tmr.

 

[JaDed]

due to excessive procreating and child birth which I will touch upon tmr.

This must be your Australian passport speaking because Pakistani passport will have a tough time speaking on procreation.