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Why has India failed to win a Gold Medal in the Paris 2024 Olympics

Major said:
An indian athlete was deported, check agaib.

Lol you can celebrate third position. Olympic champion is the guy who wins gold.

You can win 20 silvers and 20 bronze, but Pakistan would still be on top ob the medal table as one gold has more worth.
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Once in 32 years .. yeah that is ok with us ! :)
 

Will Vinesh Phogat Get Paris Olympics 2024 Silver Medal? Court To Give Answer Today By...​


The ad-hoc division of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) will give its decision on the appeal filed by Indian wrestler Vinesh Phogat against her disqualification from the Olympic finals by 6pm local time (9.30pm IST) on Saturday. The hearing on the matter concluded here on Friday after it accepted Vinesh's appeal against her ouster for being 100gm overweight on the morning of her final against eventual gold-winner Sarah Ann Hildebrandt of USA. "By application of Article 18 of the CAS Arbitration Rules form the Olympic Games, the President of the CAS Ad Hoc Division extends the time limit for the Panel to give a decision until 10 August 2024 at 18h00 (Paris time)," a statement from the CAS said.

This was after the ad-hoc division, set up especially for dispute resolution during the Olympics, said that a decision can be expected before the end of the Paris Games on Sunday.

After the hearing, the Indian Olympic Association (IOA) had insisted that it was hopeful of a "positive resolution".

"Indian Olympic Association remained hopeful of a positive resolution of wrestler Vinesh Phogat's application before the Ad hoc Division of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) against her failed weigh-in," the IOA said in a statement on Friday.

In the summit clash, Vinesh was replaced by Cuban wrestler Yusneylis Guzman Lopez, who lost to her in the semifinals on Tuesday.

In her appeal, the Indian has demanded that she be given a joint silver with Lopez as she was within the prescribed weight limit during her bouts on Tuesday.

Vinesh was represented by high-profile senior advocates Harish Salve and Vidushpat Singhania.

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The ad-hoc division of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) will give its decision on the appeal filed by Indian wrestler Vinesh Phogat against her disqualification from the Olympic finals by 6pm local time (9.30pm IST) on Saturday.
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Major said:
An indian athlete was deported, check agaib.

Lol you can celebrate third position. Olympic champion is the guy who wins gold.

You can win 20 silvers and 20 bronze, but Pakistan would still be on top ob the medal table as one gold has more worth.
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No one was deported.

You can celebrate your once in a 30 year medal.
 
Major said:
An indian athlete was deported, check agaib.

Lol you can celebrate third position. Olympic champion is the guy who wins gold.

You can win 20 silvers and 20 bronze, but Pakistan would still be on top ob the medal table as one gold has more worth.
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We have been on our sweet little gradual progressions in Olympics
1988-92 : 0 medals
1996-00: 2 medals
2004-08 : 4 medals
2012-16 : 8 medals
2020-24: 13 medals
We are pretty secure with our trendline :D.
We are getting a few golds here and there too, so again very content :)
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
We have been on our sweet little gradual progressions in Olympics
1988-92 : 0 medals
1996-00: 2 medals
2004-08 : 4 medals
2012-16 : 8 medals
2020-24: 13 medals
We are pretty secure with our trendline :D.
We are getting a few golds here and there too, so again very content :)
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But but but we must do as per the wish of our padosis.
 
cricketjoshila said:
But but but we must do as per the wish of our padosis.
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Absolutely!! We should be able to compete with China.
China started with a baseline of 30 medals/ Olympics .. we were at ZERO .. hehe
Here is China's 2 Olympics trend:

1984-88: 60 medals
92-96: 104 medals
00- 04: 121 medals
08: Host Beijing : 100 medals
12-16: 162 medals
20-24: 171 medals

China took about 30 years to triple their medal tally and have reached a saturation level and will be hard to grow like before. Growth wise we have been growing at faster rate :p . China is about 3X from its base in 80s, We are 6.5X from where we were in late 90s 🔥 🔥 :hamster: . (Hard to define growth from zero as base :runaway: )
 
Arshad’s winning a Gold is actually a slap on the face of Pakistan’s sports and Government.

I’ve read that Arshad did not even have a Javelin to practice a few months ago and he had to beg for sponsorship.

While entire Pakistan is celebrating the Gold(understandably), the victory honestly is only his personal achievement. Against all odds he won. No one recognized his talent which is a shame.

In India too we hear similar stories, but more often than not, some company recognizes the talent and funds the basic stuff to practice and compete.
 
Major said:
An indian athlete was deported, check agaib.

Lol you can celebrate third position. Olympic champion is the guy who wins gold.

You can win 20 silvers and 20 bronze, but Pakistan would still be on top ob the medal table as one gold has more worth.
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Paris Olympic authorities are totally discriminating indian athletes. Australian hockey player found with Cocain arrested, but released immediately. Man converted woman boxer win gold medal. But no action
 
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Arshad’s winning a Gold is actually a slap on the face of Pakistan’s sports and Government.

I’ve read that Arshad did not even have a Javelin to practice a few months ago and he had to beg for sponsorship.

While entire Pakistan is celebrating the Gold(understandably), the victory honestly is only his personal achievement. Against all odds he won. No one recognized his talent which is a shame.

In India too we hear similar stories, but more often than not, some company recognizes the talent and funds the basic stuff to practice and compete.
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Some Pakistani cricketers should learn fro Nadeem… pak cricketers always give excuses and distracting their fans by making irrelevant statements
 
Champ_Pal said:
Arshad’s winning a Gold is actually a slap on the face of Pakistan’s sports and Government.

I’ve read that Arshad did not even have a Javelin to practice a few months ago and he had to beg for sponsorship.

While entire Pakistan is celebrating the Gold(understandably), the victory honestly is only his personal achievement. Against all odds he won. No one recognized his talent which is a shame.

In India too we hear similar stories, but more often than not, some company recognizes the talent and funds the basic stuff to practice and compete.
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In his autobiography, Shoaib Akhtar had a lament that Pakistan doesn't respect its sporting heroes like India does. Obviously he meant the sports bodies and not the people, who are as success hungry as anyone.

Olympics is basically a rich person's event. You need so much facilities, and some sports have huge entry barriers. How many people have access to swimming pools, or clean water bodies, or stadiums with facilities? In delhi, one civil servant emptied the stadium because he wanted to take his dog for a walk. Swimming, gymnastics, fencing has loads of medals but there should be facilities + culture to see any output. Some olympic medals will come our way as economy progresses, but we will not be serious olympic contenders for the next 50 years. And that is fine. Olympic success is not success, it is only the side effect of success.

I would rather people become fit, instead of being obese and celebrating the few olympic medals we get. Too many unfit youth and middle aged people. Watching sports only has entertainment value. Playing any physical sport is the real deal.
 
Major said:
Let me guess having a team in Paris is an achievement?

What about having an athlete deported?

Again where is your gold?
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The Indian athletes also refused to pay the taxi drivers in Paris and got reported to cops.

Some very shocking stories coming from the Indian camp.
 
RahulBose said:
Big picture... That this Gold is actually bad for Pak.

Any mercurial achievement is bad for Pak unless it actually moves the tide and leads to an overall development in sports.
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We have seen people turn negatives into positives, yet here you are doing the opposite. Why so bitter? Just congratulate them and move on. :inti
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The Indian athletes also refused to pay the taxi drivers in Paris and got reported to cops.

Some very shocking stories coming from the Indian camp.
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Not Indian athletes, but two of the support staff. These things happen in every event, no big deal
 
IAJ said:
So Pakistan were ‘only’ 25 medals away, whereas India 152😯
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Yes, So it will be easy for Pakistan to reach there, while India may never reach there.

Although neither of that will happen in your or my lifetime.
 
Major said:
That is what i am asking. Why that a country after soo much investment and with the highest population couldnt bother to win a gold?
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What do you mean soo much investment ? We only do proper Investment in Education... and as I have said that has paid off spectacularly when our H1B Imports evicted your babbar sher cricket team that too without eating any meat. It cant get any bigger than that. Does that answer your question on "Return on Investment" ?

BTW We also produce a whole lot of fortune 500 class CEOs if you are truly interested In "Return on investment".
 
Since population was mentioned here, then I think New Zealand must be the most talented country in summer olympics and Norway in winter Olympics no?
 
IAJ said:
Since population was mentioned here, then I think New Zealand must be the most talented country in summer olympics and Norway in winter Olympics no?
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Both those countries are one the best ones in the world. The culture and systems are too good.
 

Deadline extended to August 11​


There is some confusion regarding the extension of the deadline for a verdict. Earlier, it was said that the deadline was extended till August 13. Still, now the official statement says, "The ad hoc division of CAS has extended time till 6-00 p.m. on August 11, 2024, for the Sole Abritator Hon. Dr Annabelle Bennett in the Vinesh Phogat vs. United World Wrestling & the International Olympic Committee to issue a decision. The reasoned order will be issued at a later date."

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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
We have seen people turn negatives into positives, yet here you are doing the opposite. Why so bitter? Just congratulate them and move on. :inti
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Sure.. congratulations Pak.

But that wasn't the post , the post was about India and I was trying to say why it is not a big deal as long as the course India is taking is on the right path.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The Indian athletes also refused to pay the taxi drivers in Paris and got reported to cops.

Some very shocking stories coming from the Indian camp.
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Reminds me of the indian cricketer whole stole socks.


Funny thing is how joshila is denial of an indian athelete being deported
 
Major said:
Reminds me of the indian cricketer whole stole socks.


Funny thing is how joshila is denial of an indian athelete being deported
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He is right tbh.

They ran to India before french got a chance to report.
 
globetrotter said:
They have differed decision many times. It seems they will declare it after Olympic ends

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CAS verdict on Vinesh appeal on Sunday, August 11

The CAS decision on Vinesh Phogat's appeal against disqualification from Olympic finals has been deferred by a day to Sunday,August 11 at 9.30pm IST. The ad hoc division
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The decision was very harsh on the Indian lady. I feel bad for her but I suppose a line must be drawn somewhere
 
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Deadline extended to August 11​


There is some confusion regarding the extension of the deadline for a verdict. Earlier, it was said that the deadline was extended till August 13. Still, now the official statement says, "The ad hoc division of CAS has extended time till 6-00 p.m. on August 11, 2024, for the Sole Abritator Hon. Dr Annabelle Bennett in the Vinesh Phogat vs. United World Wrestling & the International Olympic Committee to issue a decision. The reasoned order will be issued at a later date."

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As I said earlier, this will be a nice script for Dangal 2. :inti
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He is right tbh.

They ran to India before french got a chance to report.
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still it will be considered deportation, as she was expelled from the country.

Its like a student caught misbehaving in school now whether he goes back home the next day and not return for a week doesnt matter, because if the School has expelled him it stands.

The indian athelete not only got deported, but also faces a 3 year ban most likely.

 
DeadlyVenom said:
The decision was very harsh on the Indian lady. I feel bad for her but I suppose a line must be drawn somewhere
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She wasted 6 months by joining agitation and she was in bad company of India alliance for 6 months… it affects her training/practice, she should have used those 6 months in weight management.

Before final night, she was 2.0 kgs more, she tried to reduce weight by exercise, but still overweight by 100 Gms. On the other hand Aman Sherawat have 4.5 kgs. Plus weight before quarter final night, he was exercising whole night to reduce the same. Before quarter final match his weight was ok and he won bronze
 
Major said:
still it will be considered deportation, as she was expelled from the country.

Its like a student caught misbehaving in school now whether he goes back home the next day and not return for a week doesnt matter, because if the School has expelled him it stands.

The indian athelete not only got deported, but also faces a 3 year ban most likely.

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So sharing your ID with your sister is a bigger crime > having cocaine in your pocket
 
cricketjoshila said:
No one was deported. Provide proof.
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Wrestler Antim Panghal and her entourage will be deported from Paris after her sister Nisha used the Indian wrestler's accreditation to enter the Olympic Games Village during the Paris Olympics 2024 but was detained by the police. The police questioned Nisha but she was released after some time. The authorities have decided to deport Antim's entire entourage and her accreditation was also canceled following the incident. Antim had earlier slumped to a humiliating 0-10 defeat to Turkey's Yetgil Zeynep in the women's 53 kg category.

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Indian wrestler Antim Panghal's entourage will be deported from Paris after her sister tried to enter Olympic Games Village.
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DeadlyVenom said:
Rules are rules and must be respected. During this Olympics it seems like Indian athletes wanted to implement their own rules.
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Honestly, things like this I could imagine some pakistanis do out of ignorance, but it’s surprising to see Indians do it.
 
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So sharing your ID with your sister is a bigger crime > having cocaine in your pocket
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This casual 'chalta hai', 'dekh lenge', 'tu bhi aaja' attitude may be tolerated in India, but it's entirely unacceptable in countries like France. By sharing her ID with others, she put the security of an Olympic event at serious risk. Who knows if she could have even shared it with someone with malicious intent? Her actions have not only endangered the Paris Olympics but also brought shame to India. She should be banned from India for compromising security, and defending such behavior is equally disgraceful.
 
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Why is the world’s most populous nation 71st in the Olympics medal table?​


India had to wait until the 13th day of the Paris Olympics to secure a medal higher than bronze, with flag-bearer Neeraj Chopra’s silver in the men’s javelin throw sending a wave of celebration tinged with relief through the medal-starved country.

India sent a contingent of 117 athletes to Paris yet have a paltry haul of five bronze medals and Chopra’s solitary silver to show for it. They rank 71st in the medals table, below the likes of Hong Kong, Taiwan, North Korea, Cuba and Saint Lucia – a Caribbean island of just 180,000 people.

It’s a disappointing return to the norm for a country that registered its best-ever performance at the last Games in Tokyo in 2021: seven medals including one gold. For the most populous nation on Earth, a sports-mad country of 1.4 billion which also boasts the world’s fifth largest economy, it’s a record as frustrating as it is puzzling.

India have won just two golds in the last three decades: the men’s 10m rifle shooting at Beijing 2008 and with Chopra’s javelin throw at the Tokyo Games. Until Tokyo, it had won a grand total of 28 medals across 36 Olympics, the same tally as the individual record of American swimmer Michael Phelps.

Speaking to The Independent, experts and former Indian Olympians explain that there’s no one quick fix that could bring the country a gold rush at Los Angeles 2028. Widespread poverty and malnourishment remain serious issues preventing millions of young people from reaching their sporting potential – but there is also a chronic lack of investment even at the elite level in the country.

After star wrestler Vinesh Phogat’s dramatic disqualification earlier this week due to failing to make weight for her women’s 50kg final, India’s sports minister Mansukh Mandaviya sparked controversy by defending the government’s Rs 7.5m (around £75,000) spending on Phogat’s training and support team. This would be a drop in the ocean compared to the amounts being spent on wealthier nations’ top medal hopes, or indeed the vast sums flowing around the Indian Premier League (IPL), the wealthiest cricket league in the world.

An increase in investment is needed from the grassroots up, says former Olympian Dipa Karmakar. Athletes need to be provided the right resources over the long term, she says, and not just for the few months running up to major competitions.

“Simone Biles pulled out of the Tokyo gymnastics finals to deal with her mental health but she still had consistent investment for three years. Here players are given resources for three or four months once they qualify for the Olympics,” says the gymnast, who came fourth at the Rio 2016 Games.

“If our players receive such resources from a year or two before, our medal count might increase.”

Karmakar, the first Indian female gymnast to compete at the Olympics, says “it is a very tough journey” for a player going from playing locally to competing at a state level, then national and international.

“I didn’t have any infrastructural support when I started out. It was only after 2016 that I got a foam pit and good equipment,” Karmakar tells The Independent.

Tripura, her home state in India’s remote northeast, is some 2,400km from the national capital. “I would travel to Delhi for training camps,” she says. “Now, there is infrastructure here in Tripura as well.”

Nobel laureates Abhijit Banerjee and Esther Duflo point to high malnutrition as a significant contributor to India’s Olympics underperfomance, and urge the need for better investment in the health sector as a whole.

“Of course India is poor but not as poor as it used to be, and not nearly as poor as Cameroon, Ethiopia, Ghana, Harti, Kenya, Mozambique, Nigeria, Tanzania, and Uganda, each of which, per head has more than 10 times India’s medal count,” the economists note in their book Poor Economics.

India’s stunting and wasting figures are devastating. At 18.7 per cent, according to the Global Hunger Index of 2023, the South Asian country has the highest child wasting rate in the world, reflecting acute undernutrition. Even war-torn and famine-stricken Yemen at 14.4 per cent and Sudan at 13.7 per cent fare better.

There has been some increase in investment in sports in recent years with the lion’s share going to the Khelo India, or Play India, programme launched by the Narendra Modi government in 2017, says Ronojoy Sen, senior research fellow at the National University of Singapore’s Institute of South Asian Studies.

“The overall budget for the sports ministry increased to Rs 34.4bn (£320m) this year from Rs 33.9bn (£310m) in the previous financial year,” he tells The Independent.

“I think India’s government investment in sports is much higher than most developing countries but of course it is for a much larger population too.”

The impact sustained investment can have is noticeable in some sports that have received more attention, such as field hockey, a sport in which India won a second straight bronze at Paris after ending a 41-year medal drought at Tokyo.

India once dominated hockey, winning a record 11 Olympic medals, including eight gold, in the sport until 1980. A steady decline over the following quarter century reached a nadir in 2008 when it did not even qualify for the Beijing Games.

The embarrassment sparked a process of rebuilding that culminated in a bronze medal at Tokyo, says former hockey goalkeeper and coach AB Subbaiah.

“Everybody worked very hard to win but we never had scientific support behind us,” he tells The Independent. “When to peak, when not to peak and how much training we have to take to prevent injury. Now scientific approaches have been introduced.” There is a physio now, a dietician, mental trainer, scientific adviser and analytical coach, he says.

“If you are building champions, you need to support them in every area. The players should be only thinking of going and giving their best on the ground.

“The manager has to take care of his players, visas, passports, travel plans, everything,” he says, drawing a contrast with his days playing for India between 1988 and 1998 when managers would sometimes “take support from players to carry their baggage”.

The change came about, he says, when the old Indian Hockey Federation was disbanded in 2008 and replaced with Hockey India.


As an example of poor administration of sports in India, Karmakar recalls how she missed the last Asian Games in Hangzhou, China, last year.

“I did not face a lot of politics but there was an administrative problem during the last Asian Games, when we were informed about the criteria after the trial,” she says. “As a result of which I could not go. And this despite securing the first spot during the trials.”

The federal sports ministry had informed the Gymnastics Federation of India that only two of its nine qualified athletes met the selection criteria for the Games.

“We were sent the criteria for qualification after seven or eight days of the trials,” the gymnast says. “If the administration had been more proactive, I would have received the criteria ahead of the trials, not a week after.”

At the Paris Games, Phogat’s dramatic exit has shone a spotlight on what critics have decried as the lack of support from sports administrators who were supposed to look out for her.

Phogat was guaranteed to win at least a silver medal, and had a good chance at gold, before she was disqualified on the morning of the final for coming in overweight – by as little as 100grams, according to some reports. Officials said she tried to cut weight through the night before the final, cycling and running, but to no avail.

“I am surprised and I feel very bad for the athlete,” says Subbaiah. “I’m also surprised that she was training the whole night. Without eating, I mean that could have been life-threatening. The support staff and coach should have taken a little more care.”

Phogat’s journey from Delhi to Paris was itself wrought with challenges. She wanted to compete in the 53kg category but a younger rival, Antim Panghal, had claimed the spot, SportStar reported.

When Vinesh sought a trial to determine who should be given the spot in her preferred weight category, the wrestling federation, with which she had locked horns while leading a street protest against its then chief over sexual abuse allegations, denied the request.

It meant competing in the 50kg category was her only chance of going to Paris.

Panghal, who was sent to compete in the 53kg, was deported from Paris on Thursday following a “disciplinary breach” by her entourage, including younger sister Nisha. She had already been knocked out in her quarter-final bout a day earlier, losing 10-0 to Turkey’s Zeynep Yetgil.

The Independent contacted India’s chef de mission in Paris, Gagan Narang, with a detailed questionnaire. He did not respond.

India’s sustained underperformance in sports stands in stark contrast to China, the country it overtook in terms of total population around mid-2023 according to the UN.

“I think there are different reasons for different underperformances,” says Rahul De, associate professor at Azim Premji University and host of the podcast series Economics of Khel that looks at the business of sporting subcultures.

“The first is, if you look at which countries dominate the Olympics, winning the most medals, you have nations that have historically invested a lot in sports,” he says.

Then there are countries such as China and Qatar which see winning sports medals as being important to their global brands, he adds.

“China is well known as almost a factory production where they identify children from the age of four and five years, put them into public hostels and in training,” he says.

“So it is kind of strange, they have ignored some sports that are popular while focusing on those that they have better chances winning even if those sports have no fans.”

Gymnastics, he points out, is one sport that receives high investment.

China has more than 2,183 state schools that train children as young as five to groom them for the Olympics, Reuters reported in 2016.

Calling China’s approach “authoritarian”, De says there are very few countries that can emulate such a system which also significantly limits access to sports for the general public.

India cannot take such an approach, he says, partly because the country’s system of devolved powers to state government makes it harder to roll out such a rigid policy nationwide.

But there is also no indication that the Modi administration sees it as a budget priority to do so. Considering “the amount of investment you need, the government has never allocated that much”, he says.

The message appears to be that if India is to turn around its fortunes at the Olympic, it will have to be through improving health and welfare across the board – rather than a sudden influx of investment in elite sports from the government.

 

Amid Vinesh Phogat Weight Controversy At Paris Olympics, PT Usha Puts Direct Blame On...​


Drawing criticism for Vinesh Phogat's weigh-in fiasco, Indian Olympic Association (IOA) President PT Usha on Sunday made it clear that it is the responsibility of the athlete to manage their weight and the attack on its medical team, especially Chief Medical Officer Dr. Dinshaw Pardiwala is "unacceptable and worthy of condemnation." The 29-year-old Vinesh was left heartbroken after she was disqualified ahead of her gold-medal bout in freestyle 50kg for being 100gm overweight in the morning weigh-in, crushing her Olympic dreams and prompting her to announce her retirement.

The incident started a blame game, also leading to an uproar in the Parliament, with some sections attacking Dr Pardiwala and his team for negligence with former IOA chief Narendra Batra indicating that Vinesh's diet might have had something to do with her disqualification.

"...the responsibility of weight management of athletes in sport like wrestling, weightlifting, boxing and judo is that of each athlete and his or her coach and NOT that of the IOA-appointed Chief Medical Officer Dr. Dinshaw Pardiwala and his team," Usha said in a statement.

"...the hate directed at the IOA medical team, especially Dr. Pardiwala, is unacceptable and worthy of condemnation." She hoped that those rushing to judge the IOA medical team "would consider all facts before arriving at any conclusions".

Vinesh had scripted history by becoming the first Indian woman wrestler to reach the gold medal bout in her category on Tuesday night. But her post-participation weight was found to have increased and despite all measures, which included cutting off Vinesh's hair, she was found to be 100gm extra during the morning weigh-in.

"Each Indian athlete in the Paris 2024 Olympic Games in such sport had his or her own support team. These support teams have been working with the athletes over so many years," Usha said.

"The IOA appointed a medical team a couple of months ago, primarily as a team that would assist in the recovery and injury management of athletes during and after their competition. This team was also designed to support athletes who did not have their own team of nutritionists and physiotherapists." Vinesh has appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS), demanding that she be awarded a joint silver medal with Cuban wrestler Yusneylis Guzman Lopez, who had lost to the Indian but was later promoted to the final following the Haryana wrestler's disqualification.

American Sarah Hildebrandt won the gold after defeating Lopez in the title clash.

The decision on Vinesh's appeal is expected to come on August 13.

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Drawing criticism for Vinesh Phogat's weigh-in fiasco, Indian Olympic Association (IOA) President PT Usha made it clear that it is the responsibility of the athlete to manage their weight.
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As per media reports, Vinesh Phogat's petition has been dismissed by CAS. Silver Medal is highly unlikely.
 
India failed because they are not good at any sport other than cricket.

Maybe once cricket enters Olympics, they have an outside chance to win a gold medal (if Aussies screw up).
 
FearlessRoar said:
As per media reports, Vinesh Phogat's petition has been dismissed by CAS. Silver Medal is highly unlikely.
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This was always going to be the case. I dont know why CAS deferred their judgement three times. USA gymnast actually had a case and they didnt agree to her plea either

The UWW rules are totally clear about this. Even 50 gms is considered overweight, Vinesh was 100 gms above the limit. I didnt see how the arguments would fly with the CAS
 
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As per media reports, Vinesh Phogat's petition has been dismissed by CAS. Silver Medal is highly unlikely.
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Vinesh Phogat's Appeal For Silver Medal At Paris Olympics 2024 Dismissed by CAS​


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Phogat's plea for a silver medal, after getting disqualified from the Women's 50kg freestyle wrestling final at the Paris Olympics 2024, has been dismissed by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on Wednesday.
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Vinesh Phogat's Appeal For Silver Medal At Paris Olympics 2024 Dismissed by CAS​


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Phogat's plea for a silver medal, after getting disqualified from the Women's 50kg freestyle wrestling final at the Paris Olympics 2024, has been dismissed by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on Wednesday.
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Good.

Vinesh Phogat should understand CAS is not spineless like ICC.
 
So this is how much India spent on the olympics where they couldnt win a singel event.

27 crore on weight lifting.
10 crore on sailing and swiminig
37.80 crore on wrestling
40 crore on archery
41.30 Crore Hockey
60 crore on shooting
60 crore on Boxing
96 crore on atheletics.

And yet, after spending all this money, their athete had to stand silently to a Pakistani National Anthem :D
 
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Wrestler Antim Panghal and her entourage will be deported from Paris after her sister Nisha used the Indian wrestler's accreditation to enter the Olympic Games Village during the Paris Olympics 2024 but was detained by the police. The police questioned Nisha but she was released after some time. The authorities have decided to deport Antim's entire entourage and her accreditation was also canceled following the incident. Antim had earlier slumped to a humiliating 0-10 defeat to Turkey's Yetgil Zeynep in the women's 53 kg category.

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Wrestler Antim Panghal returns to India after Olympic disciplinary breach controversy

Indian wrestler Antim Panghal faces disciplinary action after breaching Olympic village rules, returning to India amid controversy.
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They were not deported.
 
sweep_shot said:
India failed because they are not good at any sport other than cricket.

Maybe once cricket enters Olympics, they have an outside chance to win a gold medal (if Aussies screw up).
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When was the last time Bangladesh won anything?
 
Major said:
So this is how much India spent on the olympics where they couldnt win a singel event.

27 crore on weight lifting.
10 crore on sailing and swiminig
37.80 crore on wrestling
40 crore on archery
41.30 Crore Hockey
60 crore on shooting
60 crore on Boxing
96 crore on atheletics.

And yet, after spending all this money, their athete had to stand silently to a Pakistani National Anthem :D
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LMAO. Wow!

Is that a record?
 
Major said:
So this is how much India spent on the olympics where they couldnt win a singel event.

27 crore on weight lifting.
10 crore on sailing and swiminig
37.80 crore on wrestling
40 crore on archery
41.30 Crore Hockey
60 crore on shooting
60 crore on Boxing
96 crore on atheletics.

And yet, after spending all this money, their athete had to stand silently to a Pakistani National Anthem :D
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Good to see these numbers

A step in the right direction. Results may not show at the moment but our athletes place 4rth in 10+ events. So, these investments are working on the ground. It will take time to bear the fruits but we should get the process in place in the right direction. Nothing to be ashamed of IMO
 
Theanonymousone said:
Good to see these numbers

A step in the right direction. Results may not show at the moment but our athletes place 4rth in 10+ events. So, these investments are working on the ground. It will take time to bear the fruits but we should get the process in place in the right direction. Nothing to be ashamed of IMO
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I really hope to see the expenditure to get doubled for next time and it will give the good infrastructure to all athletes
 
Vikram1989 said:
I really hope to see the expenditure to get doubled for next time and it will give the good infrastructure to all athletes
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Yes
UK and Australia has one of the best support system for athletes in terms of economic assistance while US and China always had good infrastructure in place from grass root levels

Hopefully, numbers athletes participating in sports events increase at national level and the results will follow soon
 
Major said:
So this is how much India spent on the olympics where they couldnt win a singel event.

27 crore on weight lifting.
10 crore on sailing and swiminig
37.80 crore on wrestling
40 crore on archery
41.30 Crore Hockey
60 crore on shooting
60 crore on Boxing
96 crore on atheletics.

And yet, after spending all this money, their athete had to stand silently to a Pakistani National Anthem :D
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Very happy. Hope we double these amounts. I am fine with silver or bronze multiple medals.

St Lucia, Guatemala, Uganda too won gold. Singapore, malaysia did not. That is no insult to the latter nations
 
Major said:
So this is how much India spent on the olympics where they couldnt win a singel event.

27 crore on weight lifting.
10 crore on sailing and swiminig
37.80 crore on wrestling
40 crore on archery
41.30 Crore Hockey
60 crore on shooting
60 crore on Boxing
96 crore on atheletics.

And yet, after spending all this money, their athete had to stand silently to a Pakistani National Anthem :D
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Azerbaijan finished 30th with 7 medals. I am curious to know how much they spent on the Olympics. :inti
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Very happy. Hope we double these amounts. I am fine with silver or bronze multiple medals.

St Lucia, Guatemala, Uganda too won gold. Singapore, malaysia did not. That is no insult to the latter nations
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You can triple the funding, but if the athlete lacks the drive and ability to win, they will never succeed at the Olympics. :inti
 
FearlessRoar said:

Vinesh Phogat's Appeal For Silver Medal At Paris Olympics 2024 Dismissed by CAS​


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Vinesh Phogat's Appeal For Silver Medal At Paris Olympics 2024 Dismissed by CAS - News18

Phogat's plea for a silver medal, after getting disqualified from the Women's 50kg freestyle wrestling final at the Paris Olympics 2024, has been dismissed by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on Wednesday.
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She's being a drama queen right now. Move on and focus on writing the script for Dangal 2 with Aamir Khan. :rabada2

A word of caution: avoid including Brij Bhushan's character in the movie, or else 'andhbhakhts' might take offense. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
She's being a drama queen right now. Move on and focus on writing the script for Dangal 2 with Aamir Khan. :rabada2

A word of caution: avoid including Brij Bhushan's character in the movie, or else 'andhbhakhts' might take offense. :inti
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Yeah. I don't know what she is complaining about.

She was over the weight limit. So, disqualifying her was the right thing to do. It was the fault of her team for not monitoring her weight.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Very happy. Hope we double these amounts. I am fine with silver or bronze multiple medals.

St Lucia, Guatemala, Uganda too won gold. Singapore, malaysia did not. That is no insult to the latter nations
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These are the amounts spent on the Olympics event itself - the logistical costs, accommodation of athletes and officials and other expenses etc.

But funding is needed at the lower rungs to identify talent. The elite level is already funded well, but there is a lot of selection politics involved in who gets to reach the top. Either you have to know someone or you have to be personally wealthy to be able to afford the training and nutrition
 
sweep_shot said:
Yeah. I don't know what she is complaining about.

She was over the weight limit. So, disqualifying her was the right thing to do. It was the fault of her team for not monitoring her weight.
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She took a risk by competing in the lower weight category it seems. She was overweight by only 100 grams. But rules are rules and must be followed.

She is still a tremendous wrestler and her achievement will remain in all Olympic fan’s memory for sure.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Very happy. Hope we double these amounts. I am fine with silver or bronze multiple medals.

St Lucia, Guatemala, Uganda too won gold. Singapore, malaysia did not. That is no insult to the latter nations
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AamchiMumbaikar said:
Very happy. Hope we double these amounts. I am fine with silver or bronze multiple medals.

St Lucia, Guatemala, Uganda too won gold. Singapore, malaysia did not. That is no insult to the latter nations
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good to see that after spending more then 450 carores and finishing at 71st and having stand to Pakistanis national anthem who came 61st, that you are happy with these results.

Thats the spirit.

However, belonging from a Gold Winning Nation, being an Olympic champion matters
 

Every player who went to Paris Olympics is a champion: PM Narendra Modi​


Prime Minister Narendra Modi hosted India's Paris Olympians at his residence on the 78th Independence Day of the nation. PM Modi met and greeted Olympic medallists Manu Bhaker, the hockey team, Sarabjot Singh and wrestler Aman Sehrawat during the ceremony, which was attended by numerous athletes who were part of India's contingent in Paris.

PM Modi took to social media and boosted the athletes' morale with a heartwarming post, lauding the effort of every member of the contingent to represent the tri-colour at the biggest sporting spectacle.

"It was a delight to interact with the Indian contingent that represented our nation in the Paris Olympics. Heard their experiences from the games and lauded their feats on the sports field. Every player who went to Paris is a champion. The Government of India will continue to support sports and ensure that a top-quality sporting infrastructure is built," PM Modi said in a series of tweets on X.

Every player who went to Paris is a champion. The Government of India will continue to support sports and ensure that a top-quality sporting infrastructure is built. pic.twitter.com/WhgID22Bps — Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) August 15, 2024

India were represented by 117 athletes at the Paris Olympics. The Asian giants finished with six medals, including a silver and five bronze. Neeraj Chopra, who won silver in men's javelin, was not in attendance at the event. The double Olympic medallist flew to Germany from Paris to seek medical advice for a groin injury concern.

India had as many as six fourth-place finishes in a bittersweet campaign in the Paris Olympics. Vinesh Phogat's dreams of winning an Olympic medal was dashed when she was disqualified ahead of her gold medal match for being 100 grams overweight. Vinesh lost her appeal against disqualification and request for joint silver medal after a week-long court battle on Wednesday, August 14.

Apart from the medal winners, star athletes like Lakshya Sen and Lovlina Borgohain were seen interacting with the Prime Minister. Boxer Lovlina, who won a bronze for India at the Tokyo Olympics, revealed the details of her interaction with PM Modi.

"It was a very good meeting...As I could not win a medal this time, he (PM Modi) motivated me a lot...He supports us just like our parents support us," Lovlina told ANI news agency.

Notably, PM Modi, during his speech at Red Fort on Thursday morning, praised the Paris Olympians and wished luck to the Paralympians who will be in action later in the month in Paris.

www.indiatoday.in

Every player who went to Paris Olympics is a champion: PM Narendra Modi

Prime Minister Narendra Modi met and greeted the Paris Olympians at his residence on Independence Day. PM Modi praised the efforts of the athletes and promised that his government would continue to support the sporting stars.
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FearlessRoar said:

Every player who went to Paris Olympics is a champion: PM Narendra Modi​


Prime Minister Narendra Modi hosted India's Paris Olympians at his residence on the 78th Independence Day of the nation. PM Modi met and greeted Olympic medallists Manu Bhaker, the hockey team, Sarabjot Singh and wrestler Aman Sehrawat during the ceremony, which was attended by numerous athletes who were part of India's contingent in Paris.

PM Modi took to social media and boosted the athletes' morale with a heartwarming post, lauding the effort of every member of the contingent to represent the tri-colour at the biggest sporting spectacle.

"It was a delight to interact with the Indian contingent that represented our nation in the Paris Olympics. Heard their experiences from the games and lauded their feats on the sports field. Every player who went to Paris is a champion. The Government of India will continue to support sports and ensure that a top-quality sporting infrastructure is built," PM Modi said in a series of tweets on X.

Every player who went to Paris is a champion. The Government of India will continue to support sports and ensure that a top-quality sporting infrastructure is built. pic.twitter.com/WhgID22Bps — Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) August 15, 2024

India were represented by 117 athletes at the Paris Olympics. The Asian giants finished with six medals, including a silver and five bronze. Neeraj Chopra, who won silver in men's javelin, was not in attendance at the event. The double Olympic medallist flew to Germany from Paris to seek medical advice for a groin injury concern.

India had as many as six fourth-place finishes in a bittersweet campaign in the Paris Olympics. Vinesh Phogat's dreams of winning an Olympic medal was dashed when she was disqualified ahead of her gold medal match for being 100 grams overweight. Vinesh lost her appeal against disqualification and request for joint silver medal after a week-long court battle on Wednesday, August 14.

Apart from the medal winners, star athletes like Lakshya Sen and Lovlina Borgohain were seen interacting with the Prime Minister. Boxer Lovlina, who won a bronze for India at the Tokyo Olympics, revealed the details of her interaction with PM Modi.

"It was a very good meeting...As I could not win a medal this time, he (PM Modi) motivated me a lot...He supports us just like our parents support us," Lovlina told ANI news agency.

Notably, PM Modi, during his speech at Red Fort on Thursday morning, praised the Paris Olympians and wished luck to the Paralympians who will be in action later in the month in Paris.

www.indiatoday.in

Every player who went to Paris Olympics is a champion: PM Narendra Modi

Prime Minister Narendra Modi met and greeted the Paris Olympians at his residence on Independence Day. PM Modi praised the efforts of the athletes and promised that his government would continue to support the sporting stars.
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India giving each other participation medals..
 
FearlessRoar said:

Every player who went to Paris Olympics is a champion: PM Narendra Modi​


Prime Minister Narendra Modi hosted India's Paris Olympians at his residence on the 78th Independence Day of the nation. PM Modi met and greeted Olympic medallists Manu Bhaker, the hockey team, Sarabjot Singh and wrestler Aman Sehrawat during the ceremony, which was attended by numerous athletes who were part of India's contingent in Paris.

PM Modi took to social media and boosted the athletes' morale with a heartwarming post, lauding the effort of every member of the contingent to represent the tri-colour at the biggest sporting spectacle.

"It was a delight to interact with the Indian contingent that represented our nation in the Paris Olympics. Heard their experiences from the games and lauded their feats on the sports field. Every player who went to Paris is a champion. The Government of India will continue to support sports and ensure that a top-quality sporting infrastructure is built," PM Modi said in a series of tweets on X.

Every player who went to Paris is a champion. The Government of India will continue to support sports and ensure that a top-quality sporting infrastructure is built. pic.twitter.com/WhgID22Bps — Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) August 15, 2024

India were represented by 117 athletes at the Paris Olympics. The Asian giants finished with six medals, including a silver and five bronze. Neeraj Chopra, who won silver in men's javelin, was not in attendance at the event. The double Olympic medallist flew to Germany from Paris to seek medical advice for a groin injury concern.

India had as many as six fourth-place finishes in a bittersweet campaign in the Paris Olympics. Vinesh Phogat's dreams of winning an Olympic medal was dashed when she was disqualified ahead of her gold medal match for being 100 grams overweight. Vinesh lost her appeal against disqualification and request for joint silver medal after a week-long court battle on Wednesday, August 14.

Apart from the medal winners, star athletes like Lakshya Sen and Lovlina Borgohain were seen interacting with the Prime Minister. Boxer Lovlina, who won a bronze for India at the Tokyo Olympics, revealed the details of her interaction with PM Modi.

"It was a very good meeting...As I could not win a medal this time, he (PM Modi) motivated me a lot...He supports us just like our parents support us," Lovlina told ANI news agency.

Notably, PM Modi, during his speech at Red Fort on Thursday morning, praised the Paris Olympians and wished luck to the Paralympians who will be in action later in the month in Paris.

www.indiatoday.in

Every player who went to Paris Olympics is a champion: PM Narendra Modi

Prime Minister Narendra Modi met and greeted the Paris Olympians at his residence on Independence Day. PM Modi praised the efforts of the athletes and promised that his government would continue to support the sporting stars.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
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Haha!

Participation trophy?

This genuinely made me laugh.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You can triple the funding, but if the athlete lacks the drive and ability to win, they will never succeed at the Olympics. :inti
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Of course. I don't think it's an issue with athletes. We send
Major said:
good to see that after spending more then 450 carores and finishing at 71st and having stand to Pakistanis national anthem who came 61st, that you are happy with these results.

Thats the spirit.

However, belonging from a Gold Winning Nation, being an Olympic champion matters
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We have 10 gold in Olympics compared to your 4 overall. Hence we are the superior gold winning nation. So looks like you need to work on diet and other things not us.

Let's continue the conversation this way
 
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oatmeal said:
But funding is needed at the lower rungs to identify talent. The elite level is already funded well, but there is a lot of selection politics involved in who gets to reach the top. Either you have to know someone or you have to be personally wealthy to be able to afford the training and nutrition
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I agree with you that funds have to reach grass roots to identify and nurture the talent. But as we are not a sporting country, we have to flush it from the both sides, top and bottom. We need to spend at the top as the awards will inspire the athletes and amount have to be pumped at grass root level for a long time benefit.grass root level spending will be a hallmark of a sporting, developed country. Hope we get there
 
uppercut said:
What do you mean soo much investment ? We only do proper Investment in Education... and as I have said that has paid off spectacularly when our H1B Imports evicted your babbar sher cricket team that too without eating any meat. It cant get any bigger than that. Does that answer your question on "Return on Investment" ?

BTW We also produce a whole lot of fortune 500 class CEOs if you are truly interested In "Return on investment".
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Someone is still not touching this very important factually correct post I made last week... I wonder why ... lol
 

Army Chief felicitates athletes from Indian Army who took part in Paris Olympics​


Army Chief General Upendra Dwivedi felicitated the athletes from the Indian Army who took part in the recently-concluded Paris Olympics 2024. The Army Chief expressed his confidence that the athletes from the Indian force would continue their quest for excellence and achieve greater heights. The Indian Army accounted for 13 out of the 117-member Indian contingent that headed to the Paris Olympics 2024. Which meant the Indian Army's representation in the Games was 11.11 per cent. In fact, the athletes from the Army contributed 16.66 per cent towards the overall medal tally of India.

The highest medal, i.e. the only silver that was earned, was also won by ace javelin thrower Sub Maj Neeraj Chopra. The gold medallist at the Tokyo Olympics 2020 managed to win the silver medal in the men's javelin throw final, with Pakistan's Arshad Nadeem winning the gold. The felicitation ceremony for the athletes took place at the South Block in Delhi.

Sub Maj Neeraj Chopra wins Olympic medal in Paris​


The occasion was not just to celebrate the achievements, but also to acknowledge the crucial role the Indian Army played in nurturing the country's sporting talent. General Dwivedi felicitated them for their "remarkable accomplishments" at the Paris Olympics 2024.

"The Indian contingent clinched a total of six medals -- one silver and five bronze, with Sub Maj Neeraj Chopra of the Army winning the only silver medal in javelin for India. This exemplary performance has etched itself as one of the most remarkable displays of the Army at the Olympic Games," the Army said.

Indian Army athletes' contribution at Olympics​


In the previous Olympic Games as well, the Army personnel have impressed by winning medals in the shooting category.

"In 2004 Olympics at Athens, Colonel RVS Rathore had won a silver medal in shooting while in 2012 London Games, a silver was bagged by Sub Maj (Hony Capt) Vijay Kumar in shooting," the Army said.
The Army Chief expressed profound pride in the incredible achievements of the Army's sportspersons.

"Their discipline, perseverance, and dedication symbolise the core values of the Indian Army. Their achievements have not only brought accolades but have also inspired countless others to pursue excellence in the field of sports," the Army said.

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Army Chief felicitates athletes from Indian Army who took part in Paris Olympics

Army Chief General Upendra Dwivedi felicitated the athletes from the Indian Army who took part in the recently-concluded Paris Olympics 2024.
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