Will Afghanistan be safe/better off after US withdrawal in 2021?

[Cpt. Rishwat]

TTP came into Pakistan and took over Swat and even killed the army there. Infact, they army soldiers that TTP killed in Swat there bodies were hung around the city.

People fear weapons. WHen someone with a weapon enters people will have to give in. Even back than when Swat fell into ttp, alot of the local swat people had to join the TTP as they had no other choice.

Afghan people dont want Taliban, if they did there wouldn't be chaos in Kabul.

Afghanistan will not be able to sort out this on their own, unless the Taliban itself decides to have a proper govt in place.

But reality is its not happening. Taliban while claim to be students, but they are just people who know how to fight with Ak47s but dont know how to perform govt procedures. Majority of them dont know how to write their own name, which is why people know what is about to come.

Taliban isn't an answer to Afghanistans problems.

This is like saying that TLP is the answer to the problem of Pakistan.

Please stop pretending you speak on behalf of Afghans when you are appealing to [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] for moral support when he himself admits he doesn't even speak on their behalf or even Pakistanis where he is based. You are not representative, and we British are fed up being led up the garden path by keyboard warriors sitting in their air conditioned bedrooms living off mummy daddy's largesse.

No we won't be fooled into spending billions and wasting western lives trying to sort out problems halfway across the world. Ask your friends across the border to do it if it's so simple. They are a wannabe superpower, they should have the military firepower to support the "locals" if you really want a Bolly friendly govt.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

TTP came into Pakistan and took over Swat and even killed the army there. Infact, they army soldiers that TTP killed in Swat there bodies were hung around the city.

People fear weapons. WHen someone with a weapon enters people will have to give in. Even back than when Swat fell into ttp, alot of the local swat people had to join the TTP as they had no other choice.

Afghan people dont want Taliban, if they did there wouldn't be chaos in Kabul.

Afghanistan will not be able to sort out this on their own, unless the Taliban itself decides to have a proper govt in place.

But reality is its not happening. Taliban while claim to be students, but they are just people who know how to fight with Ak47s but dont know how to perform govt procedures. Majority of them dont know how to write their own name, which is why people know what is about to come.

Taliban isn't an answer to Afghanistans problems.

This is like saying that TLP is the answer to the problem of Pakistan.

You totally got me lost here dude. Your totally rhetoric goes out of the window.

Do you think all of "Afghan people" live only in Kabul?

Lets read this slowly.


"Afghan people dont want Taliban,
if they did
there wouldn't be chaos in Kabul".

How exactly do you define "Chaos"? Is there killing and slaughtering of innocent civilians happening in Kabul? Is there a fighting going on in Kabul?

Taliban surrounded Kabul a few days ago. The didn't enter the city or attacked it.
They never said they were going to kill Ghani. Their demand was that Ghani needs to step down. I am speculating there was some negotiation happened where they let Ghani flew in peace (and with loads n loads of cash).

After Ghani left, Talibans walked into Kabul. There was "aam maafi" for all who wouldn't take guns against Talibans. There are some videos where residents of Kabul are doing Sajdas for Talibans taking over Kabul.

The airport is open, whoever wants to get out of Afghanistan, (anti Talibans) are allowed to get on the flights.

It looks like, on the contrary, the transition of taking over was QUITE SMOOTH.

Yes, whoever doesn't want to live in Afghanistan due to financial hardships and wants to move to greener pastures of the western world (I am sure there will be MILLIONS of such people in India and Pakistan as well), are taking the opportunity and get on the planes destined to USA or whatever.
Talibans aren't chasing anyone on the Kabul aiport with guns. Are they?

 

[Major]

You totally got me lost here dude. Your totally rhetoric goes out of the window.

Do you think all of "Afghan people" live only in Kabul?

Lets read this slowly.


"Afghan people dont want Taliban,
if they did
there wouldn't be chaos in Kabul".

How exactly do you define "Chaos"? Is there killing and slaughtering of innocent civilians happening in Kabul? Is there a fighting going on in Kabul?

Taliban surrounded Kabul a few days ago. The didn't enter the city or attacked it.
They never said they were going to kill Ghani. Their demand was that Ghani needs to step down. I am speculating there was some negotiation happened where they let Ghani flew in peace (and with loads n loads of cash).

After Ghani left, Talibans walked into Kabul. There was "aam maafi" for all who wouldn't take guns against Talibans. There are some videos where residents of Kabul are doing Sajdas for Talibans taking over Kabul.

The airport is open, whoever wants to get out of Afghanistan, (anti Talibans) are allowed to get on the flights.

It looks like, on the contrary, the transition of taking over was QUITE SMOOTH.

Yes, whoever doesn't want to live in Afghanistan due to financial hardships and wants to move to greener pastures of the western world (I am sure there will be MILLIONS of such people in India and Pakistan as well), are taking the opportunity and get on the planes destined to USA or whatever.
Talibans aren't chasing anyone on the Kabul aiport with guns. Are they?

you do realize that its only those people that could afford a plane ticket could actually go to the airport.

FIghting is not gonna happen, there isnt any army and the locals cant take out weapons agaisnt the taliban because it is a certain defeat.

The fact that they encircled Kabul and allowed GHani to go as if it was an ehsaan. Point is they caused a civil war in the country and made Ghani to surrender.

Many people are not even running to the western world, they are trying to get into the niehgbouring countries like Uzbekistan etc.

 

[Lego20]

People here are exploring whether a medieval, regressive, repressive and violent taliban will be good for Afghanistan.

Some believe that majority of afghan people want Taliban.

Its make believe to wash off your own sins.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

you do realize that its only those people that could afford a plane ticket could actually go to the airport.

No, I don't think that's the case. These local Afghan do NOT have any visa to any western countries (if they did, they probably won't live in Afghanistan)... and without a visa, you can't buy an airplane ticket from a third world country.

These are mostly people getting on the planes provided by the American operations.

Search this news,

"United States UN ambassador says US promises to be generous in resettling displaced Afghans"

FIghting is not gonna happen, there isnt any army and the locals cant take out weapons agaisnt the taliban because it is a certain defeat.

So you would rather WANT the fight to happen in Kabul between Afghani Army and Talibans or have these locals get into fight with Talibans and get killed? Or you think it's a more peaceful option for locals to live peacefully in Afghanistan, and if not, Talibans letting them get on the plane?

The fact that they encircled Kabul and allowed GHani to go as if it was an ehsaan. Point is they caused a civil war in the country and made Ghani to surrender.

Where is the "civil war" happening? Is that what you wanted or that's the report from the ground? I mean, do you even what a civil war is? And is that what you see at this point in Afghanistan?
And instead of ehsaan of letting him go, would you rather wanted Talibans to kill Ghani?

Many people are not even running to the western world, they are trying to get into the niehgbouring countries like Uzbekistan etc.

Exactly,
They are being allowed to do so. Who is stopping or chasing or killing them?

 

[mazkhan]

The airport has nothing to do with the taliban , it is controlled by usa nato
Everywhere else in Afghanistan things are normal markets are open people are going about their daily lives , only in the airport there is stampedes firings and people falling from aeroplanes and the people incharge are the usa.

So the conclusion is the part usa is incharge of is total chaos just like their 20 yr occupation was total chaos .

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

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USA literally saved their dogs over collaborators, spies and translators.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

People here are exploring whether a medieval, regressive, repressive and violent taliban will be good for Afghanistan.

Some believe that majority of afghan people want Taliban.

Its make believe to wash off your own sins.

Yes, you as an Indian obviously know far better what the Afghan people want right?

Did you ever try googling for pictures of everyday life before the Taliban took over? Women dressed in shorts and bars on every corner in your imagination perhaps?

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Life goes on in Kabul...


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">کابل شہر سے تازہ ترین<br>لوگ باہر نکل رہے ہیں، معمولات زندگی بحال ہو رہے ہیں <a href="https://t.co/3pLxDX1fiU">pic.twitter.com/3pLxDX1fiU</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1427585414987137030?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>