Will stop flow of India's share of river water to Pakistan: Water resources minister Nitin Gadkari

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Under the leadership of Hon'ble PM Sri <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" [MENTION=140582]Naren[/MENTION]dramodi</a> ji, Our Govt. has decided to stop our share of water which used to flow to Pakistan. We will divert water from Eastern rivers and supply it to our people in Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab.</p>— Nitin Gadkari (@nitin_gadkari) <a href="https://twitter.com/nitin_gadkari/status/1098567044574916608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Will stop flow of India's share of river water to Pakistan: Nitin Gadkari

NEW DELHI: India has decided to stop the flow of its share of water to Pakistan from rivers under the Indus Water Treaty, a move seen as an immediate fallout of deadly terrorist attack that killed 40 paramilitary personnel in south Kashmir.

Water resources minister Nitin Gadkari tweeted to convey the decision of the government to stop India's share of water going to Pakistan.

But the actual implementation of the decision may take up to six years as dams as high as 100 metres will have to be built to stop such flow, officials said insisting its decision was in no way a violation of the Treaty and was only aimed at getting the rightful due to people of the country.

Under the Indus Water Treaty signed in 1960, the waters of the western rivers -- the Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab -- was given to Pakistan and those of the eastern rivers -- the Ravi, Beas, and Sutlej -- to India.

India's share of water from Ravi, Beas and Sutlej rivers came to 33 million acres feet (MAF). While about 95 per cent of the water was being used in the country after the construction of three main dams across the rivers, close to 5 per cent water or 1.6 MAF would flow to Pakistan.

To gain access to this water, India is now building more dams which will be completed in six years, officials said.

Another official said the decision was taken two months back.

Water to Pakistan from the three rivers has been flowing for 60 years while the country needs the same to meet needs of its citizens, they said insisting stopping of its share of water from going to Pakistan is in no way a violation of the Treaty.

"Under the leadership of Hon'ble PM Sri [MENTION=140582]Naren[/MENTION]dramodi ji, Our Govt. has decided to stop our share of water which used to flow to Pakistan. We will divert water from Eastern rivers and supply it to our people in Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab," Gadkari said in a tweet.

He further said, "The construction of dam has started at Shahpur- Kandi on Ravi river. Moreover, UJH project will store our share of water for use in J&K and the balance water will flow from 2nd Ravi-BEAS Link to provide water to other basin states."

Gadkari's tweets have come barely a week after the gruesome Pulwama terror attack on February 14 in which as many as 40 CRPF personnel were martyred when a terrorist rammed an explosives-laden vehicle into a bus carrying them. New Delhi believes the attack was planned and supported by elements in Pakistan.

Following the attack, the government revoked the Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status given to Pakistan and also imposed 200 per cent customs duty on all goods imported from the neighbouring country.

"We have started the work of purification of river Yamuna ... After the formation of India and Pakistan, Pakistan got three rivers, and India got three rivers. The rightful water of our three rivers was flowing to Pakistan. Now we will build three projects on them, and divert the water to river Yamuna," Gadkari has said yesterday at Baghpat in Uttar Pradesh while addressing a public rally.

The Union Cabinet in December had approved the Shahpurkandi dam project on the Ravi river in Punjab, a move that was intended to help India arrest its share of water flowing into Pakistan.

For this, central assistance of Rs 485.38 crore for irrigation component over five years from 2018-19 to 2022-23 was also announced.

The Indus Waters Treaty was signed between India and Pakistan in 1960 for sharing of Indus waters. According to the Treaty, India got the full rights for utilisation of waters of the three eastern rivers -- Ravi, Beas and Satluj.

"Some of the water of the Ravi river at present is going waste through the Madhopur Headworks downstream to Pakistan. Implementation of the project would minimise such wastage of water," the government has said in a statement.

In September 2018, Punjab and the Jammu and Kashmir governments had signed an agreement to resume works on the Rs 2,793-crore Shahpurkandi project.

Though the work on the project began in 2013, it was halted due to certain issues raised by J&K.

The Punjab government also submitted a revised cost estimate of Rs 2,793.54 crore and requested the Centre to include the project in the prioritised list of the Pradhan Mantri Krishi Sinchai Yojana (PMKSY)/Accelerated Irrigation Benefit Programme (AIBP) projects.

The project, when implemented, will enable the up-stream Ranjit Sagar Dam project power station to act as a peaking station, besides having its own generation capacity of 206 MW and irrigation benefit of 37,173-hectare to Punjab and J&K.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...kistan-nitin-gadkari/articleshow/68098430.cms
 
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Before the usual people post here - make sure you think twice before posting any insult/abuse.
 
He is talking about taking rivers of J&K and supplying them to J&K. What?

The Anpads who elected BJP have ensured we all get killed.
 
It's a shame that India hasn't done that already. Every drop of water needs to be diverted to our farmers as long as Pakistan gets it's share as per the treaty.
 
Nah not breaking at all ,even if it was on smaller level,noone would notice anyways

Its a precursor to diverting the other rivers. This diversion itself will reduce the water flow of eastern rivers to Pakistan.There are already Dams on western rivers that have been constructed despite Pakistani objections.
 
Its a precursor to diverting the other rivers. This diversion itself will reduce the water flow of eastern rivers to Pakistan.There are already Dams on western rivers that have been constructed despite Pakistani objections.

What has pakistan done to store water?

Answer that then objection can be made
 
Its only India's share of water I guess. If yes, it should not affect Pak much.
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] you can chill bro :srini
 
can't understand what you have written. I am sorry to say you don't make sense at all.

Well i knew that will be the answer u ll come up with

To ur earlier question" is that all they can do?"

- they can do many thing s which i wont waste my time typing..
- you should be happy they arent doing anything to allow you to say that

- many countries including china who completly ignores neighbouring countries rights to water ,wont even listen ,silently will block water na d reduce incoming water and thats exacly what india can also do but aimt doing which many should be thankful for

And i observe when no good reply can be made best they come up with is try to find typos or mistakes in grammer LOL to that

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Well i knew that will be the answer u ll come up with

To ur earlier question" is that all they can do?"

- they can do many thing s which i wont waste my time typing..
- you should be hapoy they arent doing anything to allow you to say that

- many countries including china who completly ignores neighbouring countries rights to water ,wont even listen ,silently will block water na d reduce incoming water and thats exacly what india can also do but aimt doing which many should be thankful for

And i observer when no good reply can be made best they come up with is try to find typos or mistakes in grammer LOL to that

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I thought they were going to attack us? What happend to that? Or was it just to run their mouth's?
 
I thought they were going to attack us? What happend to that? Or was it just to run their mouth's?

Well many has habit of running thier mouth, whenevr there is spark some tries to sparkle but hey who cares?

Do u want war? Do i? Nope not at all ,atleast with present economy
 
Well many has habit of running thier mouth, whenevr there is spark some tries to sparkle but hey who cares?

Do u want war? Do i? Nope not at all ,atleast with present economy

No one wants war so they don't need to act tough when they are cowards themselves. They just need to shut up, if they can't do anything, which everyone knows they can't.
 
No one wants war so they don't need to act tough when they are cowards themselves. They just need to shut up, if they can't do anything, which everyone knows they can't.

Unlike in some contry ,india actually has freedom of speech where anti indians are allowed to say stuff on national television and so are blind bhakts , just like some country our military shud try to do its part and block all of that stuff ,not to mention at the extent people shud be afraid to do that (pun intended)
 
Unlike in some contry ,india actually has freedom of speech where anti indians are allowed to say stuff on national television and so are blind bhakts , just like some country our military shud try to do its part and block all of that stuff ,not to mention at the extent people shud be afraid to do that (pun intended)

Yes freedom where you will be killed for eating cow.
 
He is talking about taking rivers of J&K and supplying them to J&K. What?

The Anpads who elected BJP have ensured we all get killed.

So who is building dams on Jhelum?? I thought that was a violation of Indus Water Treaty but then these politicians can say whatever they want knowing that there's none to point out their stupidity...
 
Yes freedom where you will be killed for eating cow.

Well see the problem is,

Since india has freedom of speech and whenever something happens prosecutors always fly thier kits high

I have a muslim friend AZAD , we r kinda best friends ,i am complete nonveg and he often eats hell alotta meat and beef as well , i nevee saw anyone obejcting him nor forcing him to do anything and he for one understands keeping status of cow in indian society..either ask people around before he eats beef around them or not eat aroudn objectionable people and we share hell lotta stuff for me not to get carried away with such stuff

When some one tries to mock some particular religious groups are mocked like,"hey see imma gonna eat your cow mata in yiur face" and still expect it will go well

But thing is such incidents happens on really small scale and media needs mirch masala and flshy news and opposition party needs something to press the ruling party up against

Its like taking example of asia biwi case and saying thats fate of every minority person in pakistan and thats whole all of u treat them,but even i know thats not true but such things doesnt come forward coz pak media is highly censored and any bad stuff that may hurt pak face wont come in light that often

When 100s of religion are packed togather ,they will fight a little but i have many muslims friends and none of them live in threat like you point of ,there are stores who sell beef there arw hindu and others who eats it ,but media needs masala so dont keep your view oriented to masalas

I will not go deep into how u portrey this but your view doesnt match with how well indian muslims have flourished in indian society ,let it be president,ministers,space,govt jobs, bollywood,not to mention i cant find any place where they arent flourishing ,if it were as u say it were then none of this is possible

All of this you can see is why india has freedom of speech ,unless u think otherwise ,come here n try

But hey people have thier opinions dont. Let the fact come your way
 
Well see the problem is,

Since india has freedom of speech and whenever something happens prosecutors always fly thier kits high

I have a muslim friend AZAD , we r kinda best friends ,i am complete nonveg and he often eats hell alotta meat and beef as well , i nevee saw anyone obejcting him nor forcing him to do anything and he for one understands keeping status of cow in indian society..either ask people around before he eats beef around them or not eat aroudn objectionable people and we share hell lotta stuff for me not to get carried away with such stuff

When some one tries to mock some particular religious groups are mocked like,"hey see imma gonna eat your cow mata in yiur face" and still expect it will go well

But thing is such incidents happens on really small scale and media needs mirch masala and flshy news and opposition party needs something to press the ruling party up against

Its like taking example of asia biwi case and saying thats fate of every minority person in pakistan and thats whole all of u treat them,but even i know thats not true but such things doesnt come forward coz pak media is highly censored and any bad stuff that may hurt pak face wont come in light that often

When 100s of religion are packed togather ,they will fight a little but i have many muslims friends and none of them live in threat like you point of ,there are stores who sell beef there arw hindu and others who eats it ,but media needs masala so dont keep your view oriented to masalas

I will not go deep into how u portrey this but your view doesnt match with how well indian muslims have flourished in indian society ,let it be president,ministers,space,govt jobs, bollywood,not to mention i cant find any place where they arent flourishing ,if it were as u say it were then none of this is possible

All of this you can see is why india has freedom of speech ,unless u think otherwise ,come here n try

But hey people have thier opinions dont. Let the fact come your way

Yes the the whole is blind that they can't see indian killing people over beef, but you are right? all the news is fake and you are right because you have a Muslim friend who eats beef.
 
Yes freedom where you will be killed for eating cow.

Yes the the whole is blind that they can't see indian killing people over beef, but you are right? all the news is fake and you are right because you have a Muslim friend who eats beef.


Islamophobes use a similar logic to paint a bad picture of Islam quoting what a handful of terrorists do.

There are bound to be criminal acts even in the most free societies, so don't expect a nation housing 1/6th of human population to be perfect.
 
Well see the problem is,

Since india has freedom of speech and whenever something happens prosecutors always fly thier kits high

I have a muslim friend AZAD , we r kinda best friends ,i am complete nonveg and he often eats hell alotta meat and beef as well , i nevee saw anyone obejcting him nor forcing him to do anything and he for one understands keeping status of cow in indian society..either ask people around before he eats beef around them or not eat aroudn objectionable people and we share hell lotta stuff for me not to get carried away with such stuff

When some one tries to mock some particular religious groups are mocked like,"hey see imma gonna eat your cow mata in yiur face" and still expect it will go well

But thing is such incidents happens on really small scale and media needs mirch masala and flshy news and opposition party needs something to press the ruling party up against

Its like taking example of asia biwi case and saying thats fate of every minority person in pakistan and thats whole all of u treat them,but even i know thats not true but such things doesnt come forward coz pak media is highly censored and any bad stuff that may hurt pak face wont come in light that often

When 100s of religion are packed togather ,they will fight a little but i have many muslims friends and none of them live in threat like you point of ,there are stores who sell beef there arw hindu and others who eats it ,but media needs masala so dont keep your view oriented to masalas

I will not go deep into how u portrey this but your view doesnt match with how well indian muslims have flourished in indian society ,let it be president,ministers,space,govt jobs, bollywood,not to mention i cant find any place where they arent flourishing ,if it were as u say it were then none of this is possible

All of this you can see is why india has freedom of speech ,unless u think otherwise ,come here n try

But hey people have thier opinions dont. Let the fact come your way

Freedom of speech you say?

Navjot Sidhu begs to differ
 
Islamophobes use a similar logic to paint a bad picture of Islam quoting what a handful of terrorists do.

There are bound to be criminal acts even in the most free societies, so don't expect a nation housing 1/6th of human population to be perfect.

I agree with you, but your politician have banned meat i think, they are always talking rubbish, so i wonder what about the rest of the population.
 
Islamophobes use a similar logic to paint a bad picture of Islam quoting what a handful of terrorists do.

There are bound to be criminal acts even in the most free societies, so don't expect a nation housing 1/6th of human population to be perfect.

No one does.

But when that nation continues to elect radicalized extremists it shows that vast majority is supporting that narrative.
 
No one does.

But when that nation continues to elect radicalized extremists it shows that vast majority is supporting that narrative.

This is obvious in their choice of leadership. The votes reflect the majority choice, thinking, and ideals of the people and nation.
 
Yes the the whole is blind that they can't see indian killing people over beef, but you are right? all the news is fake and you are right because you have a Muslim friend who eats beef.

Never said news are fake ,omg but they happen in such small amount compared to other crimes ,yet for sake of mirch masalas they r portreyed as only news availible ,theyre are also cases of muslims killing others but noone want that news to come to light.. you see it with your own made glasses thats what u cant read what i said
 
Irresponsible statement and disgraceful intentions if true.

The Indus Water treaty is an exemplary and historic agreement. Only immature and ignorant politicians could come up with such awfully stupid statements.

I am not surprised however. This is BJP. this what they do.
 
No one does.

But when that nation continues to elect radicalized extremists it shows that vast majority is supporting that narrative.

Continous to elect? He hasnt even been elected 2nd time

Were abdul kalam /atal bihari also elected based on radicalism

Thing is you want to see it the way u wanna see it

Yes some extemism is goibg on recently but at time of election i remeber people electing modi on points of promises made for making jobs availible ,ablishing reservations and making country progressive... Its deer who thinks of lion passing by as an eye of prey , for a passing lion it wasnt even time for dinner...
 
Continous to elect? He hasnt even been elected 2nd time

Were abdul kalam /atal bihari also elected based on radicalism

Thing is you want to see it the way u wanna see it

Yes some extemism is goibg on recently but at time of election i remeber people electing modi on points of promises made for making jobs availible ,ablishing reservations and making country progressive... Its deer who thinks of lion passing by as an eye of prey , for a passing lion it wasnt even time for dinner...

As if no other politician were elected who Isnt radicalized extremists with the view of marginalizing minority.

Between deer is meat is great if cooked right.
 
Its a precursor to diverting the other rivers. This diversion itself will reduce the water flow of eastern rivers to Pakistan.There are already Dams on western rivers that have been constructed despite Pakistani objections.

At some point India has to respond to the latest terrorist attack in some manner. If it does not, then these attacks will continue happening. The Pakistani Army believes that it can continue a low-level war because a fully fledged conventional war will not happen due to nuclear weapons being possessed by both sides. Given this thinking the Indian response has to be something that is also another form of a "low-level war", but one that hurts Pakistan significantly so that their Army changes its behavior. Diverting water is one option. Will the Pakistani Army start a nuclear war if water is diverted? Probably not. Will it hurt then enough that they think of changing their behavior? Possibly.

The truth is that if India does get the Pakistani Army to change its behavior, the biggest beneficiaries will be the common Pakistani whose country is being kept poor by the Army's grip on the economy.

Anyway, all these arguments about the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK. Both nations have a large number of poor people, however one nation is making progress while the other has the highest rate of infant mortality (higher than Sub Saharan countries) due to poor hygienic conditions. One nation is developing its modern industries and exporting high value items such as autos, pharma and software while the other is stuck with primitive industries and requires handouts from dictatorial countries to pay its import bill. One country regularly sees a change in government following democratic elections and the other country has its Army playing a major role in selecting the winner.

All this back and forth comparing the sins of omission and commission for the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK.
 
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Never said news are fake ,omg but they happen in such small amount compared to other crimes ,yet for sake of mirch masalas they r portreyed as only news availible ,theyre are also cases of muslims killing others but noone want that news to come to light.. you see it with your own made glasses thats what u cant read what i said

Presented nothing but justification.
 
At some point India has to respond to the latest terrorist attack in some manner. If it does not, then these attacks will continue happening. The Pakistani Army believes that it can continue a low-level war because a fully fledged conventional war will not happen due to nuclear weapons being possessed by both sides. Given this thinking the Indian response has to be something that is also another form of a "low-level war", but one that hurts Pakistan significantly so that their Army changes its behavior. Diverting water is one option. Will the Pakistani Army start a nuclear war if water is diverted? Probably not.

Anyway, all these arguments about the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK. Both nations have a large number of poor people, however one nation is making progress while the other has the highest rate of infant mortality (higher than Sub Saharan countries) due to poor hygienic conditions. One nation is developing its modern industries and exporting high value items such as autos, pharma and software while the other is stuck with primitive industries and requires handouts from dictatorial countries to pay its import bill. One country regularly sees a change in government following democratic elections and the other country has its Army playing a major role in selecting the winner.

All this back and forth comparing the sins of omission and commission for the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK.

The wanna be preacher.

Provide evidence of selecting a PM or get the hell out of here.

Go out on the street if Pakistan, ain’t no body got selected.

Come up with a better narrative.
 
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India seems to be severely underestimating the consequences of its actions. Per Wikileaks the understanding of the Pentagon is the only reason they’d ever be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan is over the water dispute. Modi is turning out to be a failure on foreign policy...
 
As if no other politician were elected who Isnt radicalized extremists with the view of marginalizing minority.

Between deer is meat is great if cooked right.

Same minority who have been given supreme privileges ,compared to anywhere in the world?

Not to mention such country like pak where minorities are treated like dogs? And who even need to be afraid of not drinking or offering water to ur neighbours?
 
Your comment is actually nothing

Take it as you wish.

But all you have done is provided justification of violence and discrimination against minority by the majority.

And before you go on to preach about Pakistan isn’t an exemplary example of good treatment of minority, we know, we acknowledge and we are working on it by electing a non radicalized extremists.
 
Same minority who have been given supreme privileges ,compared to anywhere in the world?

Not to mention such country like pak where minorities are treated like dogs? And who even need to be afraid of not drinking or offering water to ur neighbours?

And there it is.

Lol
 
At some point India has to respond to the latest terrorist attack in some manner. If it does not, then these attacks will continue happening. The Pakistani Army believes that it can continue a low-level war because a fully fledged conventional war will not happen due to nuclear weapons being possessed by both sides. Given this thinking the Indian response has to be something that is also another form of a "low-level war", but one that hurts Pakistan significantly so that their Army changes its behavior. Diverting water is one option. Will the Pakistani Army start a nuclear war if water is diverted? Probably not. Will it hurt then enough that they think of changing their behavior? Possibly.

The truth is that if India does get the Pakistani Army to change its behavior, the biggest beneficiaries will be the common Pakistani whose country is being kept poor by the Army's grip on the economy.

Anyway, all these arguments about the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK. Both nations have a large number of poor people, however one nation is making progress while the other has the highest rate of infant mortality (higher than Sub Saharan countries) due to poor hygienic conditions. One nation is developing its modern industries and exporting high value items such as autos, pharma and software while the other is stuck with primitive industries and requires handouts from dictatorial countries to pay its import bill. One country regularly sees a change in government following democratic elections and the other country has its Army playing a major role in selecting the winner.

All this back and forth comparing the sins of omission and commission for the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK.

What Pakistan army will get from this revenge killings?
 
India seems to be severely underestimating the consequences of its actions. Per Wikileaks the understanding of the Pentagon is the only reason they’d ever be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan is over the water dispute. Modi is turning out to be a failure on foreign policy...

Nothing has happened yet and nothing will they do regarding water.

An optics to please Indians.
 
At some point India has to respond to the latest terrorist attack in some manner. If it does not, then these attacks will continue happening. The Pakistani Army believes that it can continue a low-level war because a fully fledged conventional war will not happen due to nuclear weapons being possessed by both sides. Given this thinking the Indian response has to be something that is also another form of a "low-level war", but one that hurts Pakistan significantly so that their Army changes its behavior. Diverting water is one option. Will the Pakistani Army start a nuclear war if water is diverted? Probably not. Will it hurt then enough that they think of changing their behavior? Possibly.

The truth is that if India does get the Pakistani Army to change its behavior, the biggest beneficiaries will be the common Pakistani whose country is being kept poor by the Army's grip on the economy.

Anyway, all these arguments about the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK. Both nations have a large number of poor people, however one nation is making progress while the other has the highest rate of infant mortality (higher than Sub Saharan countries) due to poor hygienic conditions. One nation is developing its modern industries and exporting high value items such as autos, pharma and software while the other is stuck with primitive industries and requires handouts from dictatorial countries to pay its import bill. One country regularly sees a change in government following democratic elections and the other country has its Army playing a major role in selecting the winner.

All this back and forth comparing the sins of omission and commission for the two countries is pointless. All one needs to do is to to OPEN THEIR EYES AND LOOK.

The Pakistany people have OPENED THEIR EYES AND HAVE LOOKED and what they saw was not pretty.
Corruption that destroyed the economy. Fighting someone else’s war which cost 70,000 lives and spread terrorism in the country and cost billions of dollars...

They OPENED THEIR EYES and ignored the government sponsored filth spread by the media and voted...

Perhaps it’s time for the Indian people to OPEN THEIR EYES
 
What Pakistan army will get from this revenge killings?

When a person start stating how much money they got then you know that person has no genuine argument regarding the issue between India and Pakistan.

when they continue to support a corrupt leader of a nation Aka Nawas Sharif despite being disqualified for corruption

When they continue to say that PM was selected despite no evidence of it.

When they continue to say that Pakistan has no democracy despite the last three consecutive democratic election.
 
The Pakistany people have OPENED THEIR EYES AND HAVE LOOKED and what they saw was not pretty.
Corruption that destroyed the economy. Fighting someone else’s war which cost 70,000 lives and spread terrorism in the country and cost billions of dollars...

They OPENED THEIR EYES and ignored the government sponsored filth spread by the media and voted...

Perhaps it’s time for the Indian people to OPEN THEIR EYES

Lol.

Na brah, Reinstate NS because once he held s hand of Modi.
 
Take it as you wish.

But all you have done is provided justification of violence and discrimination against minority by the majority.

And before you go on to preach about Pakistan isn’t an exemplary example of good treatment of minority, we know, we acknowledge and we are working on it by electing a non radicalized extremists.

Atleast some provide justification, rather than nothing comments that makes no sense , mostly what i see on PP is not undertanding but faith and since its faith no argument is enough ,they just turn blind eye to it
 
Strcutures are to be made ,so i wont say it nothing.

But surely not enough to give it attention

Despite making structures Indian establishment will not allow any politician to indulge in blockade of water supply to Pakistan.

Any person with better understanding of the region and issue would understand.
 
Despite making structures Indian establishment will not allow any politician to indulge in blockade of water supply to Pakistan.

Any person with better understanding of the region and issue would understand.

Well i think everyone here understands a word of politician has worth of one shoe

Why bother point it out?
 
Ofc it will be there, have u not heard?look at ur self before u criticise others? Well then again what buddha said has nothing to do with sheeps of islamic replublic

This would be true if I was excluding Pakistan from same criticism as Indian.

I’ve acknowledged.
 
The Pakistany people have OPENED THEIR EYES AND HAVE LOOKED and what they saw was not pretty.
Corruption that destroyed the economy. Fighting someone else’s war which cost 70,000 lives and spread terrorism in the country and cost billions of dollars...

They OPENED THEIR EYES and ignored the government sponsored filth spread by the media and voted...

Perhaps it’s time for the Indian people to OPEN THEIR EYES

Fair enough, the passage of time will show whether Pakistan is headed in the right direction. Arguments on the internet are a waste of time, come back to this thread in 5 or 10 years to see who was right.

I gave an objective list of facts about the current situation in the two countries. Indian eyes open or closed will not make a difference to Pakistan (unless of course you subscribe to the excuse that Pakistan's poor development is India's doing).
 
Fair enough, the passage of time will show whether Pakistan is headed in the right direction. Arguments on the internet are a waste of time, come back to this thread in 5 or 10 years to see who was right.

I gave an objective list of facts about the current situation in the two countries. Indian eyes open or closed will not make a difference to Pakistan (unless of course you subscribe to the excuse that Pakistan's poor development is India's doing).

Lol,

Do you live in a LALA land? Why are you giving yourself so much self importance ?

Who is blaming India for current Pakistan’s situation? Lol

Aren’t you full of yourself.

Lol
 
Modi’s government trying ways and means in the last 4 months to keep its power for the next year 5 year term.

They tried a budget recently out of nowhere

Then this attack happened , war mongering goes on

Heard that historically when there is an ongoing Indo-pak war then the party in power will win the election

Modiji is trying all options to keep his regime and now the war mongering because surely he and his party have lost the votes by number failed promises, stupid moves like demonetisation, Rafale deal, best uni to a uni which has no building, Patel statue for millions when they r still under poverty line and many more
 
The water situation should be monitored most closely by Pakistan for the next few years because it can start a nuclear war, one that will be justified because how can anyone survive without water?!?!
 
Modi’s government trying ways and means in the last 4 months to keep its power for the next year 5 year term.

They tried a budget recently out of nowhere

Then this attack happened , war mongering goes on

Heard that historically when there is an ongoing Indo-pak war then the party in power will win the election

Modiji is trying all options to keep his regime and now the war mongering because surely he and his party have lost the votes by number failed promises, stupid moves like demonetisation, Rafale deal, best uni to a uni which has no building, Patel statue for millions when they r still under poverty line and many more

About Modi's policies and actions my friend you have no idea what Indians are thinking.
He is still way ahead of his nearest rival

many Indians are still living below poverty line and trust me they are but they did befpre modi came on to power and no one in world have power to lift people out of poverty in few years
But fact is that India currently 6th largest economy and witj record exports and foreign reserves so eventually it will help lift people at bottom
 
if they stop our supplies then china will stop india supplies so yeah i dont think they have the guts to do it.Let the dogs bark.
 
First they banned the tomatoes & now stopping the water so that we can not grow our own. :13:

Anyway If India was giving the water from their own share then they should stop this immediately Bcz Pakistani peoples deserve this punishment. Who stop them to construct dams? & still we are not serious, doing this funny chanda campaign we are thinking we can collect thousands billion :facepalm:
 
Pak is a survivor and we'll find a way. It would help if we had built dam's over the years to preserve some water, can't blame India for that at all. Could be that China stops Indian water as well like they've done in the past. Paani re paani tera rang kaisa:narine
 
Could be that China stops Indian water as well like they've done in the past.

Only one problem, India is China's largest trade partner in Asia and one of it's largest trade partners in the world. So if you get the hint, China would not go to a level Pakistan needs it to, to stop water flow to India...
 
From Dawn:

In response to an Indian minister’s statement that his country has decided to stop the flow of water to Pakistan from its share in the rivers under the Indus Water Treaty (IWT), Pakistan says it has no concern if India diverts water of eastern rivers (Ravi, Sutlej and Beas).

Talking to Dawn on Thursday, secretary of Pakistan’s Ministry of Water Resources Khawaja Shumail said: “We have neither concern nor objection if India diverts water of eastern rivers and supplies it to its people or uses it for other purposes, as the IWT allows it do so.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1465324/pakistan-says-it-has-no-concern-if-india-diverts-water
 
if they stop our supplies then china will stop india supplies so yeah i dont think they have the guts to do it.Let the dogs bark.

China didnot stop supplies for its own agenda, but will stop supply for Pakistan's?

They have a annual $80bn trade with India. They are not going to be directly involved.
 
Only one problem, India is China's largest trade partner in Asia and one of it's largest trade partners in the world. So if you get the hint, China would not go to a level Pakistan needs it to, to stop water flow to India...

China will do what is right for it. We will see what level of water it stops.
 
Pakistan is indeed lucky to have a neighbour like India. I am sure if they had a choice in neighbours, they would choose India always.
 
From Dawn:

In response to an Indian minister’s statement that his country has decided to stop the flow of water to Pakistan from its share in the rivers under the Indus Water Treaty (IWT), Pakistan says it has no concern if India diverts water of eastern rivers (Ravi, Sutlej and Beas).

Talking to Dawn on Thursday, secretary of Pakistan’s Ministry of Water Resources Khawaja Shumail said: “We have neither concern nor objection if India diverts water of eastern rivers and supplies it to its people or uses it for other purposes, as the IWT allows it do so.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1465324/pakistan-says-it-has-no-concern-if-india-diverts-water


As they say in URDU, Jab mian biwi razi to kiya karay ga Qazi? ie why are our keyboard warriors fighting so much when Pakistan doesnt have an objection?



LAHORE: In response to an Indian minister’s statement that his country has decided to stop the flow of water to Pakistan from its share in the rivers under the Indus Water Treaty (IWT), Pakistan says it has no concern if India diverts water of eastern rivers (Ravi, Sutlej and Beas).

Talking to Dawn on Thursday, secretary of Pakistan’s Ministry of Water Resources Khawaja Shumail said: “We have neither concern nor objection if India diverts water of eastern rivers and supplies it to its people or uses it for other purposes, as the IWT allows it do so.”

As issuance of harsh statements by Indian authorities continues after the terrorist attack in Pulwama, Nitin Gadkari, India’s transport and water resources minister, said in a Twitter message earlier on Thursday: “Under the leadership of Honourable PM Sri Narendra Modi, our Government has decided to stop our share of water which used to flow to Pakistan. We will divert water from Eastern Rivers and supply it to our people in Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab.”

Mr Shumail said Pakistan did not see Mr Gadkari’s tweet as worrisome in context with the IWT. “Actually India wants to construct Shahpurkandi dam at the Ravi basin. This project is abandoned since 1995. Now they (India) want to construct this in a bid to use its own share of water that goes unutilised and finally flows to Pakistan. So if they want to use this whether through storing it through construction of this dam or any other way for their people, they can do as we have nothing to do with it,” he added.

“But we will definitely express our concerns and raise objections strongly if they use or divert waters of western rivers (Chenab, Indus, Jhelum) on which our right to use prevails,” he maintained.

According to Pakistan’s Commissioner for Indus Waters Syed Mehr Ali Shah, as the IWT has already given a right to India in 1960 to use the water of eastern rivers it is now up to it to do so or not. “Whether they diverted and used their unutilised share of eastern rivers’ waters in 1960, we had no problem. They want to do it now, we have no problem. And if they don’t want to use this, we have no issue,” Mr Shah said.

He said the planned Shahpurkandi dam was actually the stage-2 of the Ranjit Sagar dam. “Though this project will also generate power, it will be used for irrigation purposes,” he added.

While commenting about the proposed visit of Indian experts (India’s commissioner for Indus waters) to Kotri Barrage (Sindh, Pakistan) keeping in view the tension between the two countries after the Pulwama terrorists attack, the commissioner said: “Let’s see what happens in this regard. But we hope for the best.”

It may be mentioned that a three-member delegation of Pakistani experts headed by Syed Mehr Ali Shah completed its general tour of inspection (from Jan 28 to Feb 1) to various hydropower projects — 1,000MW Pakal Dul, 48MW Lower Kalnai, 850MW Ratlay and 900MW Baglihar dam at Chenab Basin in India. Besides this, India, a couple of days before Pulwama attack, also shared the design data of its three planned run-of-the-river hydropower schemes with Pakistan under the IWT. These included Balti Kalan, Kalaroos and Tamasha hydropower projects which are planned to be constructed at Balti Kalan Nullah and Kalaroos Nullah at the Jhelum basin and Tamasha, a sub-tributary of the Indus river, respectively.
 
As they say in URDU, Jab mian biwi razi to kiya karay ga Qazi? ie why are our keyboard warriors fighting so much when Pakistan doesnt have an objection?



LAHORE: In response to an Indian minister’s statement that his country has decided to stop the flow of water to Pakistan from its share in the rivers under the Indus Water Treaty (IWT), Pakistan says it has no concern if India diverts water of eastern rivers (Ravi, Sutlej and Beas).

Talking to Dawn on Thursday, secretary of Pakistan’s Ministry of Water Resources Khawaja Shumail said: “We have neither concern nor objection if India diverts water of eastern rivers and supplies it to its people or uses it for other purposes, as the IWT allows it do so.”

As issuance of harsh statements by Indian authorities continues after the terrorist attack in Pulwama, Nitin Gadkari, India’s transport and water resources minister, said in a Twitter message earlier on Thursday: “Under the leadership of Honourable PM Sri Narendra Modi, our Government has decided to stop our share of water which used to flow to Pakistan. We will divert water from Eastern Rivers and supply it to our people in Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab.”

Mr Shumail said Pakistan did not see Mr Gadkari’s tweet as worrisome in context with the IWT. “Actually India wants to construct Shahpurkandi dam at the Ravi basin. This project is abandoned since 1995. Now they (India) want to construct this in a bid to use its own share of water that goes unutilised and finally flows to Pakistan. So if they want to use this whether through storing it through construction of this dam or any other way for their people, they can do as we have nothing to do with it,” he added.

“But we will definitely express our concerns and raise objections strongly if they use or divert waters of western rivers (Chenab, Indus, Jhelum) on which our right to use prevails,” he maintained.

According to Pakistan’s Commissioner for Indus Waters Syed Mehr Ali Shah, as the IWT has already given a right to India in 1960 to use the water of eastern rivers it is now up to it to do so or not. “Whether they diverted and used their unutilised share of eastern rivers’ waters in 1960, we had no problem. They want to do it now, we have no problem. And if they don’t want to use this, we have no issue,” Mr Shah said.

He said the planned Shahpurkandi dam was actually the stage-2 of the Ranjit Sagar dam. “Though this project will also generate power, it will be used for irrigation purposes,” he added.

While commenting about the proposed visit of Indian experts (India’s commissioner for Indus waters) to Kotri Barrage (Sindh, Pakistan) keeping in view the tension between the two countries after the Pulwama terrorists attack, the commissioner said: “Let’s see what happens in this regard. But we hope for the best.”

It may be mentioned that a three-member delegation of Pakistani experts headed by Syed Mehr Ali Shah completed its general tour of inspection (from Jan 28 to Feb 1) to various hydropower projects — 1,000MW Pakal Dul, 48MW Lower Kalnai, 850MW Ratlay and 900MW Baglihar dam at Chenab Basin in India. Besides this, India, a couple of days before Pulwama attack, also shared the design data of its three planned run-of-the-river hydropower schemes with Pakistan under the IWT. These included Balti Kalan, Kalaroos and Tamasha hydropower projects which are planned to be constructed at Balti Kalan Nullah and Kalaroos Nullah at the Jhelum basin and Tamasha, a sub-tributary of the Indus river, respectively.

True. Very mature response from Pak I must say.
 
About Modi's policies and actions my friend you have no idea what Indians are thinking.
He is still way ahead of his nearest rival

many Indians are still living below poverty line and trust me they are but they did befpre modi came on to power and no one in world have power to lift people out of poverty in few years
But fact is that India currently 6th largest economy and witj record exports and foreign reserves so eventually it will help lift people at bottom

As expected divert of replies for his blunders that has cost lives

Well if you are from one of that modi believers no point arguing, as I have heard the modi believers are nonetheless same like don’t care modi, just want his party to stay so that they can kill more people and name beef lynching, rape more girls and go on a parade to save the rapists.. never seen a bunch going on a protest to save child rapists.

And they keep telling the lies to themselves and the people that his rivals are far away but in reality it is much clear that modi and his party showcase all kinds of tricks up their sleeves to retain power because they knew that they done nothing to the people but everything to their corporate entities.

Announces demonetisation and run away for a foreign trip, storm in Chennai, floods in kerala doesn’t turn a ear , gives the red fort to his friend ambani ,there are so many to list out but modi believers are same like modi doesn’t care. lol the amount of arrogance he and his party does is dictatorship at highest level.

How come one bunch support them for their loot in rafale deal in defence sector, but can remove congress from power for the telecom scam.
 
They are only redirecting the flow of excess water as per the treaty and to which Pakistan has no objection. Bhakts will now celebrate thinking Modi has done some superhuman feat unchallenged by a nuclear power.

But about time we utilize our water resources more efficiently, we are getting to a point bordering water scarcity. We must learn water management from Israel. Sad to see so much water being wasted and flowing to the sea.
 
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Pakistan needs to use this "non threat" to drive up support for building Dams as priority.
Dams should be declared as National Emergency project and anyone opposing it exposed as unpatriotic :D
 
India will stop Pakistan's share of water: Indian minister

India’s Union Minister Nitin Gadkari on Thursday said New Delhi will stop Pakistan’s share of water – allocated in the Indus Water Treaty – if Islamabad “does not stop supporting terror groups”.

“We have already started a study into the matter. The water that will be stopped from flowing into Pakistan will be given to Punjab, Haryana and Rajasthan,” said the multi-portfolio minister during a press conference on his campaign tour.

According to Hindustan Times, he further said that India and Pakistan signed the water treaty based on friendship that has long since vanished. “So we are not bound to follow this treaty,” said Gadkari, who also holds the portfolio of shipping and water resources.

In March, soon after tensions between the two nuclear-armed neighbours flared up and the two sides skirmished in the air, during which at least two Indian Air Force jets were shot down, New Delhi started impeding the flow of three rivers shared by the two countries.

New Delhi had stopped 0.53 million acre-feet of water from the three eastern rivers flowing into Pakistan.

Talks on the lingering water disputes between the longtime rivals were held in August 2018 but ended without any major breakthrough.

Under the Indus Water Treaty signed in 1960, Islamabad has unrestricted access to the western rivers Indus, Jhelum and Chenab, while New Delhi enjoys the same authority over the eastern rivers Ravi, Beas and Sutlej.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1969298/1-india-will-stop-pakistans-share-water-indian-minister/
 
India will stop Pakistan's share of water: Indian minister

India’s Union Minister Nitin Gadkari on Thursday said New Delhi will stop Pakistan’s share of water – allocated in the Indus Water Treaty – if Islamabad “does not stop supporting terror groups”.

“We have already started a study into the matter. The water that will be stopped from flowing into Pakistan will be given to Punjab, Haryana and Rajasthan,” said the multi-portfolio minister during a press conference on his campaign tour.

According to Hindustan Times, he further said that India and Pakistan signed the water treaty based on friendship that has long since vanished. “So we are not bound to follow this treaty,” said Gadkari, who also holds the portfolio of shipping and water resources.

In March, soon after tensions between the two nuclear-armed neighbours flared up and the two sides skirmished in the air, during which at least two Indian Air Force jets were shot down, New Delhi started impeding the flow of three rivers shared by the two countries.

New Delhi had stopped 0.53 million acre-feet of water from the three eastern rivers flowing into Pakistan.

Talks on the lingering water disputes between the longtime rivals were held in August 2018 but ended without any major breakthrough.

Under the Indus Water Treaty signed in 1960, Islamabad has unrestricted access to the western rivers Indus, Jhelum and Chenab, while New Delhi enjoys the same authority over the eastern rivers Ravi, Beas and Sutlej.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1969298/1-india-will-stop-pakistans-share-water-indian-minister/

More aggression..Why? why cant they just leave it?? do they want to kill every pakistani?
 
More aggression..Why? why cant they just leave it?? do they want to kill every pakistani?

They want to win an election, and obviously there's nothing much to brag about at home, so they need an enemy to rally the people instead. It's an age old tactic of failing govts.
 
Election, Boss.

More like contingency. If there is a massive terror attack next, India will likely withdraw from the IWT. Considering pakistan has never kept its part of bargain in Shimla Agreement, India can also renege from the IWT.
 
More like contingency. If there is a massive terror attack next, India will likely withdraw from the IWT. Considering pakistan has never kept its part of bargain in Shimla Agreement, India can also renege from the IWT.

Why wait for the next massive terror attack to do this?
 
More like contingency. If there is a massive terror attack next, India will likely withdraw from the IWT. Considering pakistan has never kept its part of bargain in Shimla Agreement, India can also renege from the IWT.

lol..relax they are all false flag attacks..there will only be an attack when its convenient for your govt..taali doano haatoan say bujti hay jaanaab..
 
The flow of water from the Ravi river to Pakistan has been completely halted with the completion of the Shahpur Kandi barrage, which is situated on the border of Punjab and Jammu and Kashmir, as per media

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