jnaveen1980
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I hope Australia continue ignoring Bangladesh 7 years running. As a neutral i love that !
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I hope Australia continue ignoring Bangladesh 7 years running. As a neutral i love that !
you are if anything a neutral, having said that Aussies are easily the best in sports overall and esp cricket.I hope Aussies will win this one. I want to see them in final. As a neutral, I love watching them play final and dominate.
Saffers can do it, England is the only one that looks like they won’t make it.Wtc final qualification criteria for all the teams
For aus ,inda finals both teams can qualify with 58 percent.for other teams to surpass one of aus/ind ,they have to score 60View attachment 142683
Problem is they have 2 test matches in paddy fields of bangladesh. I don't think they can survive. If aus,ind series is 3to 2 ,then both aus and ind will go through. We have 5 matches against nz,bng so we should be through.Saffers can do it, England is the only one that looks like they won’t make it.
Something about these Western nations that make them better than South Asians, Arabs Turks in sports
OdI and Tests. They don’t care about T20 and still have a wc.Yeah. It is their fitness and diet. It gives them an edge.
But, then again, England aren't that great like the Aussies even though they have similar cultures/diets. It is probably the mindset. Aussies have a stronger mindset.
Test is Australia's strongest format and I expect them to win many WTC trophies.
Best Venue for Test Cricket where equal support for home and as well as Neutral teams is guaranteed due to presence of huge diaspora of all Cricket playing Nations.Wonder why all WTC finals have to be in England. Why can’t the final venues be rotated?
Absolutely I rather see one in UAE than again England maybe then they would make it to finals.Wonder why all WTC finals have to be in England. Why can’t the final venues be rotated?
Aus would be same. England has same kind of pitches suiting swing over spin and pace.Best Venue for Test Cricket where equal support for home and as well as Neutral teams is guaranteed due to presence of huge diaspora of all Cricket playing Nations.
That doesn’t make sense - in that case why ICC events not conducted only in England but are rotated across the playing nations?Best Venue for Test Cricket where equal support for home and as well as Neutral teams is guaranteed due to presence of huge diaspora of all Cricket playing Nations.
WTC finals are in England because there is almost no chance of it being a home match for a team.Wonder why all WTC finals have to be in England. Why can’t the final venues be rotated?
NO. | TEAM | PLAYED | WON | LOST | DRAW | POINT DEDUCTIONS | POINTS | POINT PERCENTAGE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | INDIA | 9 | 6 | 2 | 1 | -2 | 74 | 68.51 |
2 | AUSTRALIA | 12 | 8 | 3 | 1 | -10 | 90 | 62.50 |
3 | NEW ZEALAND | 6 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 36 | 50.00 |
4 | PAKISTAN | 5 | 2 | 3 | 0 | -2 | 22 | 36.66 |
5 | WEST INDIES | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 16 | 33.33 |
6 | SRI LANKA | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 33.33 |
= | BANGLADESH | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 33.33 |
8 | SOUTH AFRICA | 4 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 25.00 |
9 | ENGLAND | 10 | 3 | 6 | 1 | -19 | 21 | 17.5 |
Ya whoever tops the table make them champion will be good idea or play 3 match final in neutral venues .. keeping one single final in Sena pitches is injustice to non Sena teams..If not India have the WTC final in Srilanka !! Why surfaces suitable for Australia. Steve smith played county cricket right before WTC final. Indians played IPL right before WTC final. If India can't change venue atleast they should have schedule changed. Cannot play a one off Test after completely drained out in IPL for a month. BCCI for all their "current interest" towards Test did not bother to check WTC final schedule. It is better they scrap this fake tournament final. Whoever tops the table are champions.
Didn't they win the 1998 ctSouth Africa are a very good chance of featuring in their first final of a world event.
They have easy home and away fixtures.
AUS have to defeat India with a good margin and then hope to overcome SL away. Not easy. But not insurmountable either.
India have two easy home fixtures but a really tough one away against AUS. I do not foresee India triumphing 3rd time in a row. They should be hoping to draw one and win one and that might just be enough to secure a place in final.
Batter | Team | Runs | Average |
Yashasvi Jaiswal | India | 1028 | 68.53 |
Usman Khawaja | Australia | 943 | 41 |
Zak Crawley | England | 887 | 46.68 |
Mitchell Marsh | Australia | 750 | 46.87 |
Steve Smith | Australia | 738 | 35.14 |
Bowler | Team | Wickets | Average |
Josh Hazlewood | Australia | 51 | 20.45 |
Pat Cummins | Australia | 48 | 26.2 |
Mitchell Starc | Australia | 48 | 28.37 |
Nathan Lyon | Australia | 43 | 21.79 |
R Ashwin | India | 42 | 21.69 |
Batter | Team | Opposition | Score |
Rachin Ravindra | New Zealand | South Africa | 240 |
Yashasvi Jaiswal | India | England | 214* |
Yashasvi Jaiswal | India | England | 209 |
Saud Shakeel | Pakistan | Sri Lanka | 208* |
Abdullah Shafique | Pakistan | Sri Lanka | 201 |
Bowler | Team | Opposition | Figures |
Tom Hartley | England | India | 7/62 |
Matt Henry | New Zealand | Australia | 7/67 |
Shamar Joseph | West Indies | Australia | 7/68 |
Noman Ali | Pakistan | Sri Lanka | 7/70 |
R Ashwin | India | West Indies | 7/71 |
Fielder | Team | Catches |
Steve Smith | Australia | 26 |
Joe Root | England | 21 |
Ben Duckett | England | 13 |
Agha Salman | Pakistan | 11 |
TrueI wonder what percentage of cricket fans actually care about this farce called WTC.
This WTC was introduced to make every game more meaningful. But this penalty took the edge of it.I wonder what percentage of cricket fans actually care about this farce called WTC.
True
The most useless cricketing event ever
I have never seen anything like this in the sports world.This WTC was introduced to make every game more meaningful. But this penalty took the edge of it.
No love for Asian teams?I hope Aussies will win this one. I want to see them in final. As a neutral, I love watching them play final and dominate.
You know SA can very well beat all those teams and win 7 out of 8 tbh.Wtc final qualification criteria for all the teams
For aus ,inda finals both teams can qualify with 58 percent.for other teams to surpass one of aus/ind ,they have to score 60View attachment 142683
Odi is their strongest format.Yeah. It is their fitness and diet. It gives them an edge.
But, then again, England aren't that great like the Aussies even though they have similar cultures/diets. It is probably the mindset. Aussies have a stronger mindset.
Test is Australia's strongest format and I expect them to win many WTC trophies.
No love for Asian teams?
Yeah I'd love for South Africa to make it for a change but 7 of 8 is very tricky. Sri Lanka at hope has been a banana peel for them and Bangladesh will have the ball turning square.You know SA can very well beat all those teams and win 7 out of 8 tbh.
Easy vs pak
Easy vs sl
Although sl can trouble them
Ban away will be tough might lose one
They always hammer w.indies away anyway
So yes 7/8 on the cards
Hopefully india vs SA.
India win again.
Even the people supposedly running it, the ICC could not care less.Probably the least hyped event from ICC. WTC??? No one really cares about it. ICC should just scrap this event.
There is literally no interest in this event.Even the people supposedly running it, the ICC could not care less.
WTC final doesn't have level playing field because of it. One team plays the WTC final right after a Test series in the same conditions against home side. Another team plays the WTC final right after IPL. And the conditions have to be neutral even in alien conditions. So this probably is the dumbest idea even though India will keep on entering the final. They should bring back the test mace and be done with it.I have never seen anything like this in the sports world.
For the above reasons, no one knows or cares when the "tournament" started or is ending!
- Likely the longest ever sports tournament in the history of sports. Goes on for 2-3 years.
- No structured scheduled. Anyone can play anyone as they please.
- Playing and winning the same type of game (test match) is worth different points! Takes the cake in my opinion.
- Longest ever final in history of sports. Scheduled to go on for five days.
On top of that, WTC Final (which is the most crucial match of that ICC test cycle) is being held in the same country every time. Makes it quite monotonous/boring. Also gives undue advantage to Eng. It's a different story that Eng hv been unable to reach the Final till date. Imagine if Eng had made it to the Finals each time (and with the home advantage), they would hv most likely won all of them.Probably the least hyped event from ICC. WTC??? No one really cares about it. ICC should just scrap this event.
This event is exclusively for India/Australia/England/NZ/SA. Others just have to pick a team and root for it. If anything it is a India vs Some team final.Even the people supposedly running it, the ICC could not care less.
WTC as a concept is good enough. But the issue is with the farcical "final" in the same country again and again just for the sake of it.
Just crown the no.1 team in the standings at the end of each cycle ala football league style and be done with it. Why on earth would you still need a one off final to decide the best even after 24 freaking months of hard toiling across varying conditions?
A World Cup needs a final.
But, I think they should make the final a 3-match series.
How on earth is it a World Cup ?
Which world cup is 2 years long and has teams playing unequal number of games with unequal number of points at stake per stake?
This is considered as a Test World Cup. World Test Championship.
Championship is not the same as a World cup.
World cups happen under a single umbrella. ICC has nothing to do with 99% of this 2 year long tournament until they display their event management skills for the one off final. Try to make sense for once..
You can give it any fancy name you want. But, it is supposed to be the flagship Test event. This is the silverware for Test format.
Latest points table of WTC 2023-25 cycle after South Africa's win over West Indies:
It feels unfair but the daily over rate rules have been clear for years now so neither side can complain.Why the penalty? I don't understand.
Game didn't last full 5 days.
I feel the rules are unevenly implemented.It feels unfair but the daily over rate rules have been clear for years now so neither side can complain.
Actually it's fair enough for Pakistan to struggle to meet the rate with 4 quicks but inexcusable for Bangladesh to do so bowling primarily spinners.
Shows both sides are still rather unprofessional in tests really.
The point to be noted is England were deducted 19 points in the WTC for slow over rate in last year ashes. So we can't say rules are unevenly implemented.I feel the rules are unevenly implemented.
I am sure the England were short by atleast 10 overs in Test series v/s WI but no deductions happened.
Sorry...haven't been tracking that but I'd be surprised if the rules aren't clear yet. England, Australia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India (which certainly wouldn't take it lying down) have all faced points penalties for poor overrate this cycle.I feel the rules are unevenly implemented.
I am sure the England were short by atleast 10 overs in Test series v/s WI but no deductions happened.
England were short by 10 overs even after consuming 30 mins extra time on a few days of the test. There was no rain delay or anything. There is no way to justify those delays. I am surprised they escaped penalty during the series.Sorry...haven't been tracking that but I'd be surprised if the rules aren't clear yet. England, Australia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India (which certainly wouldn't take it lying down) have all faced points penalties for poor overrate this cycle.
I always excuse those for a bit on seamer heavy attacks. Very difficult to keep up the pace when you've got a spin heavy attack, it's not done.
Updated WTC points Table after England's series win over Sri Lanka
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England are looking good to finish 3rd or 4th. They may even finish among top 2 (if certain things go their way).