Would a Bangladesh series really be unprofitable to host in the UAE?

[Executioner]

Always been told that teams like West Indies and Lanka are more profitable than Bangladesh. But lately I believe Bangladesh are as good as both teams overall or slightly inferior.

However Bangladesh has a massive fanbase which is 10 times bigger than that of Windies or Lanka. Infact Bangladesh sponsors are everywhere.

60 percent of the sponsors last time we toured both Windies and Lanka where Bangladesh.

80 percent of the sponsors in the current tri series is, once again Bangladeshi which means sponsors from Bangladesh will paying good money for a series in UAE.

So the question is would Bangladesh be profitable side to host? If you ask me Bangladesh easily generates more revenue because of sponsors and viewership. Must also add that there are going to be thousanfs of Bangladeshis in the UAE.

 

[ExpressPacer]

There are lots of Pakistani's, Indians and Afghan expats in UAE. Is it similar for Bangladeshi's? If so, then a series will most probably be quite profitable.

 

[Markhor]

Yes I'm watching this Ireland-Bangladesh match now and there is a very healthy Bangladeshi contingent in Malahide.

Bangladeshis form the largest migrant community after Indians and Pakistanis in the UAE so you can't tell me they won't be a draw in the UAE.

PCB needs to stop with its pathetic posturing and host Bangladesh in UAE first then talk about home series. We don't play enough cricket as it is.

 

[ads101]

lol we hosted New Zealand, who are a far smaller country. And I can't imagine there being many New Zealanders in UAE.

Sadly I think this is just to get back at Bangladesh. There are probably quite a few bangladeshis in UAE too..

 

[Executioner]

There are lots of Pakistani's, Indians and Afghan expats in UAE. Is it similar for Bangladeshi's? If so, then a series will most probably be quite profitable.

Plenty. Almost half the number of Pakistanis that I can guarantee

 

[ExpressPacer]

Plenty. Almost half the number of Pakistanis that I can guarantee

PCB is just making excuses then. Bangladeshi fans are also very expressive especially because of the recent rise in their cricket. Even the tickets would raise a lot of revenue.

 

[Buffet]

If you can host NZ in UAE then not hosting BD has nothing to with economics.

 

[Executioner]

PCB is just making excuses then. Bangladeshi fans are also very expressive especially because of the recent rise in their cricket. Even the tickets would raise a lot of revenue.

It's not just PCB bt a lot of fans on this forum feel Bangladesh would mean a huge loss in revenue

 

[Arham_PakFan]

They won't be unprofitable to host.PCB is hellbent on making them play in Pakistan.

 

[BD-fan]

They won't be unprofitable to host.PCB is hellbent on making them play in Pakistan.

From a PCB stand point, I think it is a very valid ask. However, the way they are doing it, is incorrect. No official letter, no email, no communication, just telling it to the media that we are not sending our team, or canceling the tour; this is not diplomacy. It is disrespecting which will have a bitter taste in near future as well.

Just like England, France, India and some other places, there were few terror attacks in BD as well. Yet, we chose a proper channel of communication to host few ICC tournaments and England. How?

We made a plan (as full proof one can make), pitched it to the right authority. A proper presentation. England sent their security advisors multiple times. Australia is sending theirs' tomorrow I believe. We showed them where they will stay, what type of security they will have, how they will travel, entry and exits to and from the country, the whole 9 yards. That is how you convince the other boards to come.

Why can't PCB do that to BD? Be diplomatic. To bring back cricket Pakistan that is what is needed to be done. Not going to the media and saying we are cancelling the tour, and garbage logic as BD is not profitable, we tried to host BD in SL (BS) etc.

You exhaust all your resources before you burn the diplomatic bridge. Trying to play hardball without holding the cards will get PCB no where.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

From a PCB stand point, I think it is a very valid ask. However, the way they are doing it, is incorrect. No official letter, no email, no communication, just telling it to the media that we are not sending our team, or canceling the tour; this is not diplomacy. It is disrespecting which will have a bitter taste in near future as well.

Just like England, France, India and some other places, there were few terror attacks in BD as well. Yet, we chose a proper channel of communication to host few ICC tournaments and England. How?

We made a plan (as full proof one can make), pitched it to the right authority. A proper presentation. England sent their security advisors multiple times. Australia is sending theirs' tomorrow I believe. We showed them where they will stay, what type of security they will have, how they will travel, entry and exits to and from the country, the whole 9 yards. That is how you convince the other boards to come.

Why can't PCB do that to BD? Be diplomatic. To bring back cricket Pakistan that is what is needed to be done. Not going to the media and saying we are cancelling the tour, and garbage logic as BD is not profitable, we tried to host BD in SL (BS) etc.

You exhaust all your resources before you burn the diplomatic bridge. Trying to play hardball without holding the cards will get PCB no where.

You're talking about the PCB,my friend.They're about as professional or diplomatic as...well there's no comparison,really.

Thats ironic since the head of the institution is a former diplomat.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

As India are dumping PCB all the time and PCB is looking like a stalker still chasing India, Pakistan should form a new rivalry with Bangladesh, already there is a history. Maybe we can start a new Sharjah tournament Pakistan vs Bangladesh vs Afghanistan. This will be a blockbuster, the Bangladeshi expats will fill up the crowds. PCB needs to be humble at this stage as they have no home at the moment, if they still want to act like tigers in the middle of the ocean, they are only getting drowned and pretty soon the sharks are gonna get them. You gotta let your guard down brah

 

[Slog]

OP West Indies wasn't profitable as well

Also Sri Lanka is a side with a lot of success in recent history and when they played in uae they had a hanging of ATGs so please don't compare

 

[Hasan123]

Bangladesh vs Pakistan would be a competitive series . More interested in that then potential profit that could or might not be made.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

PCB is suffering from ego and it's attitude towards BDesh is condescending. If PCB wants good relation with BDesh then they should first invite BDesh to UAE. BDesh economy is performing better than Pak from what I see, this type of attitude will only hurt Pak in future

 

[Arsalan Pro]

If we can play West Indies in UAE, then we can play Bangladesh also.

 

[Junaids]

Host them in Leeds (for Bradford), Birmingham (for [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]) and at Ilford (the Essex ground in the East End of London).

It would be a licence to print money.

 

[shaz619]

Host them in Leeds (for Bradford), Birmingham (for [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]) and at Ilford (the Essex ground in the East End of London).

It would be a licence to print money.

PCB lose out generally regardless of who the opponent is playing in the UAE. A series in England would be great, I would attend the games! Plus Bangladesh's stock ought to rise further after they win the Champions Trophy in England; they have a decent fan base in the UK as well.

 

[Junaids]

PCB lose out generally regardless of who the opponent is playing in the UAE. A series in England would be great, I would attend the games! Plus Bangladesh's stock ought to rise further after they win the Champions Trophy in England; they have a decent fan base in the UK as well.

England went wrong in 2010 partly because of the fixing and partly because the ECB made Middlesex and Yorkshire pay a fortune to host the games.

Valentine's Park at Ilford hosts 6,000 people in temporary stands. It would be packed to the rafters, like Uxbridge was when I watched India and Pakistan play there - and the fans riot! - in 1991.

It's fifteen minutes on the tube from Brick Lane or West Ham. It would be like a home game for Bangladesh.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

You will not be invited......Deal with it !!!

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

You will not be invited......Deal with it !!!

And everyone count this,no?

 

[amit]

Even PCB knows Bangladesh will bring loads of profits in UAE, but they don't want to host them in UAE and want to host them in Pakistan as they think if Bangladesh doesn't tour Pakistan, then who will

I would say to the PCB to host Bangladesh once in UAE, then travel to Bangladesh for the next series and then invite Bangladesh to tour Pakistan in the 3rd series by keeping limited overs matches in Pakistan

 

[The_Odd_One]

If Pakistan can host WI in the UAE then they certainly an host BD. I did not even know half of the WI players before that series.

 

[Junaids]

Even PCB knows Bangladesh will bring loads of profits in UAE, but they don't want to host them in UAE and want to host them in Pakistan as they think if Bangladesh doesn't tour Pakistan, then who will

I would say to the PCB to host Bangladesh once in UAE, then travel to Bangladesh for the next series and then invite Bangladesh to tour Pakistan in the 3rd series by keeping limited overs matches in Pakistan

Too true, unfortunately.

Imagine a 4 day Test Friday to Monday at Ilford in the East End of London.

6,000 temporary seats at 40 pounds each, that's 1 million pounds in gate receipts.

 

[AlizeeFan]

It's not difficult to see that PCB wants to bully Bangladesh and is not bothered about life of players just for some extra bucks. Somehow many PPers even support this idea. Greed has no bounds.

 

[Executioner]

If Pakistan can host WI in the UAE then they certainly an host BD. I did not even know half of the WI players before that series.

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] said that Pakistan fans would rather prefer Pakistan playing west Indies than Bangladesh because of history

Surely Bangladesh players are more renowned than the west indies counterparts. Fans anywhere will know Tamim Shakib Riad Mushy Fizz Mash. Rubel Taskin Soumya and Sabbir are relatively low profile but have been around.

 

[Executioner]

Perhaps one should share statistics on how much PCB gains or loses from each series. Bangladesh and India are one of those teams that guarantee surplus but so should Australia or England.

 

[big_gamer007]

Egos and bullying tactics.. Part n parcel of cricket where bigger board with history bullies smaller boards..

 

[Executioner]

Egos and bullying tactics.. Part n parcel of cricket where bigger board with history bullies smaller boards..

Tbh Bangladesh is actually the bigger board now financially.

Rankingwise Pakistan aren't too good either to have that advantage over us either.

Not being able to play home hurts too.

 

[big_gamer007]

Tbh Bangladesh is actually the bigger board now financially.

Rankingwise Pakistan aren't too good either to have that advantage over us either.

Not being able to play home hurts too.

I agree with your post but I doubt PCB agrees with it..

 

[santos11]

Tbh Bangladesh is actually the bigger board now financially.

Rankingwise Pakistan aren't too good either to have that advantage over us either.

Not being able to play home hurts too.

Why are Bangladeshis so keen to play against Pakistan? First of all its a team with no exciting players, on the top of that playing against them in UAE which is the most boring International venue ever.

If Bangladesh really is a bigger board as you call it, then why not try to organize more Cricket with countries like Australia, New Zealand, England and SA instead of being hellbent on playing against a team like Pakistan in UAE?

Quality of Cricket, opponents and experience for youngsters will be much superior playing against the Western Countries. A self sufficient board and a rising team intends to organize more Cricket against Stronger teams in stronger venues, not against WI, Zimbabwe, Pakistan, SL.

 

[Executioner]

Why are Bangladeshis so keen to play against Pakistan? First of all its a team with no exciting players, on the top of that playing against them in UAE which is the most boring International venue ever.

If Bangladesh really is a bigger board as you call it, then why not try to organize more Cricket with countries like Australia, New Zealand, England and SA instead of being hellbent on playing against a team like Pakistan in UAE?

Quality of Cricket, opponents and experience for youngsters will be much superior playing against the Western Countries. A self sufficient board and a rising team intends to organize more Cricket against Stronger teams in stronger venues, not against WI, Zimbabwe, Pakistan, SL.

Bangladeshis aren't desperate about playing Pakistan. In recent times we have had several series against quality oppositions. And Bangladesh lacks exciting players? Many Pakistan fans drool over the flair of our players in the current setup.

Obviously Bangladesh can look for series against other sides but it's more likely that a team like Pakistan or Lanka will invite us rather than Australia or SA. But Pakistan hasn't hosted Bangladesh for 9 years. PCB too busy asking Bangladesh to tour UAE when no other boards have been asked to.do so

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Why are Bangladeshis so keen to play against Pakistan? First of all its a team with no exciting players, on the top of that playing against them in UAE which is the most boring International venue ever.

If Bangladesh really is a bigger board as you call it, then why not try to organize more Cricket with countries like Australia, New Zealand, England and SA instead of being hellbent on playing against a team like Pakistan in UAE?

Quality of Cricket, opponents and experience for youngsters will be much superior playing against the Western Countries. A self sufficient board and a rising team intends to organize more Cricket against Stronger teams in stronger venues, not against WI, Zimbabwe, Pakistan, SL.

Who is eager???!!! you misunderstood bro.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Almost a packed house today in Dubai with a lot of fans supporting Bangladesh

 

[The Googly]

In reality, no team wants to play Bangladesh except Afghanistan, Ireland and Zimbabwe who all feel they can target Bangladesh as they are the weakest teams. In 20 years, BD have simply not advanced enough especially in Tests where it matters. They remain minnows for now which is a shame as Asian cricket needs a strong BD.

 

[moghul]

BCB has to take clearance from BCCI to play against Pakistan and they won’t get it .

 

[light]

BCB has to take clearance from BCCI to play against Pakistan and they won’t get it .

and what wonderful proof do you have of this? Just cause you feel it doesn't mean it's true

 

[Darkrai]

BD fans are very passionate, and there are many of them in the UAE.

 

[Ahson8]

Almost a packed house today in Dubai with a lot of fans supporting Bangladesh

Bangladesh fans always come in droves in the UAE. Even in PSL, they used to come to watch their players play.

The truth is PCB could earn a lot of revenue by playing Bangladesh in UAE, but it is an ego issue for them since they want them to tour Pakistan instead, which Bangladesh are reluctant to do, which is why they have not been invited to UAE, while making this excuse.

 

[RainMan_]

In reality, no team wants to play Bangladesh except Afghanistan, Ireland and Zimbabwe who all feel they can target Bangladesh as they are the weakest teams. In 20 years, BD have simply not advanced enough especially in Tests where it matters. They remain minnows for now which is a shame as Asian cricket needs a strong BD.

Australia, England, SA, India, NZ a of them toured Bangladesh in last 3 years.

When was the last time a major team toured Pakistan? The only reason Pcb didn't invite BD in UAE is because Pcb wanted to blackmail BCB to send Bangladesh team in Pakistan. Obviously they were shown their real place by BCB.

PCB as a board of has little to no power or influence. But sadly Pcb officials overestimated their true worth and tried to flex their muscle against one of the richest boards in Asia. BD isn't like a team like Zimbabwe with corrupt abd incompetent board officials. We have one of the most efficient boards in world cricket.

 

[Executioner]

22000 BD fans atleast in the stands

Millions watching on TV. Our sponsors sponsor series overseas. PCB will get serious revenue which they won't against Australia Lanka WI SA.

 

[Markhor]

Rather face BD than another million series against SL or WI.

 

[Slim]

Its not about the crowd, no one cares about the crowds in the stadiums. The revenue from the crowd is equal to a peanut in front of TV rights. I believe its due to the expenses of holding the Bangla series in UAE and the revenue being not enough.

That is why we have never invited Zimbabwe, Ireland, Bangladesh to the UAE.

WI and SRL get invited because they have competitive test sides unlike Bangladesh. Also, both have already visited Pakistan as well which Bangladesh has not even though both are bigger teams than bangla in both rankings and historically as well.

So, my dear bangla brother, just because there is crowd for the first match of an inter continental cup, that does not mean that the series automatically becomes profitable.

 

[Slim]

22000 BD fans atleast in the stands

Millions watching on TV. Our sponsors sponsor series overseas. PCB will get serious revenue which they won't against Australia Lanka WI SA.

LOL What?

A single person watching in Australia, South Africa is worth probably 100 watching in Bangladesh because of the buying power of the said person.

WI and SRL get invited due to prestige because they both are former world champions, quality test teams and have a solid cricketing history. These all three things bangla does not have.

I dont want to sound harsh but this is the reality.

 

[Executioner]

LOL What?

A single person watching in Australia, South Africa is worth probably 100 watching in Bangladesh because of the buying power of the said person.

WI and SRL get invited due to prestige because they both are former world champions, quality test teams and have a solid cricketing history. These all three things bangla does not have.

I dont want to sound harsh but this is the reality.

Not to the sponsors. I am sure 50% of the sponsors will be from BD. How many sponsors from Australia or SA sponsored on UAE?

And the sheer number of fans at the stadium will make it a wonderful environment.

 

[RainMan_]

LOL What?

A single person watching in Australia, South Africa is worth probably 100 watching in Bangladesh because of the buying power of the said person.

WI and SRL get invited due to prestige because they both are former world champions, quality test teams and have a solid cricketing history. These all three things bangla does not have.

I dont want to sound harsh but this is the reality.

This statement of urs is wrong on so many levels that it's not even funny.

In terms of money power teams like WI or SL is nothing in front of us. Some of the biggest companies in south Asia r from Bangladesh and they will gladly sponsor any series involving Bangladesh. BD is the one of the fastest growing economies in the word at the moment with over 100 mn population and their purchasing power is growing at a rapid speed.

Most importantly, BD is a cricket crazy nation. Hence hosting BD is far more profitable than hosing teams like WI or SL.


But as I said earlier. PCB don't invite Bangladesh in UAE for entirely different reason. They wanted to blackmail BCB and foolishly tried to force BCB to send Bangladesh team in Pakistan. This is the same reason why PCB didn't keep their promise and didn't tour Bangladesh for their scheduled series last year. But obviously it didnt bother us at all. We have many other international teams regularly touring Bangladesh. PCB is just shooting on their own feet with these foolish tactics.

 

[Slim]

This statement of urs is wrong on so many levels that it's not even funny.

In terms of money power teams like WI or SL is nothing in front of us. Some of the biggest companies in south Asia r from Bangladesh and they will gladly sponsor any series involving Bangladesh. BD is the one of the fastest growing economies in the word at the moment with over 100 mn population and their purchasing power is growing at a rapid speed.

Most importantly, BD is a cricket crazy nation. Hence hosting BD is far more profitable than hosing teams like WI or SL.


But as I said earlier. PCB don't invite Bangladesh in UAE for entirely different reason. They wanted to blackmail BCB and foolishly tried to force BCB to send Bangladesh team in Pakistan. This is the same reason why PCB didn't keep their promise and didn't tour Bangladesh for their scheduled series last year. But obviously it didnt bother us at all. We have many other international teams regularly touring Bangladesh. PCB is just shooting on their own feet with these foolish tactics.

Maybe you start working up on your reading skills before you start calling others wrong.

I clearly mentioned Australia and SA wrt to buying power.

I clearly mentioned WI and SRL wrt to their prestige.

PCB doesnt need to blackmail BCB. They already had two bigger teams in the form of SRL and WI visit them. Bangladesh can continue being petty, i am glad we dont play you guys.

 

[Executioner]

Maybe you start working up on your reading skills before you start calling others wrong.

I clearly mentioned Australia and SA wrt to buying power.

I clearly mentioned WI and SRL wrt to their prestige.

PCB doesnt need to blackmail BCB. They already had two bigger teams in the form of SRL and WI visit them. Bangladesh can continue being petty, i am glad we dont play you guys.

Agree WI and Lanka are better in test

But we are better in Lois. We beat WI in home. We beat Lanka in nidahas and thrashing em today

 

[RainMan_]

Maybe you start working up on your reading skills before you start calling others wrong.

I clearly mentioned Australia and SA wrt to buying power.

I clearly mentioned WI and SRL wrt to their prestige.

PCB doesnt need to blackmail BCB. They already had two bigger teams in the form of SRL and WI visit them. Bangladesh can continue being petty, i am glad we dont play you guys.

That is ur perception and I have no interest of changing that. Bangladesh is one of the most Important teams in the world right now which is is why teams are like SA, AUS, ENG NZ r regularly inviting us as well as touring us.

My post was made to show the foolish nature and the double standard of PCB. Even though SL and WI r far less profitable as a touring team compared to Bangladesh, Pcb still invites them in UAE but gives financial reasons for not inviting BD in UAE which has no factual basis. This has already been proved in this thread as well as in other threads.


As I said earlier, as the last resort PCB tried to blackmail BCB by not honoring the mou and by canceling their last tour of Bangladesh. They throught they would manage to force BCB to tour Pakistan in that way. They even threatened to block Pakistani players from participating in BPL

Didn't PCB recently try to get compensation FROM India and filed a case against BCCI for not touring UAE? LOL. Didn't PCB commit the SAME crime by canceling THEIR LAST scheduled tour of Bangladesh? Do I need to give more example to prove PCB's double standard?

 

[Slim]

Agree WI and Lanka are better in test

But we are better in Lois. We beat WI in home. We beat Lanka in nidahas and thrashing em today

WI and Lanka are not just better in test but they are former world champions with a rich history.

Things Bangladesh have no substance in.

You guys are average in ODIs and are currently better than the two when these two are probably going through their worst phase.

Sorry, but i do not see how Bangladesh comes above the two at all. We dont just only play ODI cricket in UAE.

 

[Slim]

That is ur perception and I have no interest of changing that. Bangladesh is one of the most Important teams in the world right now which is is why teams are like SA, AUS, ENG NZ r regularly inviting us as well as touring us.

My post was made to show the foolish nature and the double standard of PCB. Even though SL and WI r far less profitable as a touring team compared to Bangladesh, Pcb still invites them in UAE but gives financial reasons for not inviting BD in UAE which has no factual basis. This has already been proved in this thread as well as in other threads.


As I said earlier, as the last resort PCB tried to blackmail BCB by not honoring the mou and by canceling their last tour of Bangladesh. They throught they would manage to force BCB to tour Pakistan in that way. They even threatened to block Pakistani players from participating in BPL

Didn't PCB recently try to get compensation FROM India and filed a case against BCCI for not touring UAE? LOL. Didn't PCB commit the SAME crime by canceling THEIR LAST scheduled tour of Bangladesh? Do I need to give more example to prove PCB's double standard?

Buddy, even though you have proved to be a very foolish poster but i would like to clear a few things before i stop responding to you on this thread;

1) Bangladesh's tour to Australia was cancelled because CA considered it unprofitable:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23448922/australia-cancel-hosting-bangladesh-later-year

SRL and WI regular tour to Australia. Have some shame before spouting lies and utter rubbish. I am sure the bangla ego was hurt after this as CA was accused of "lack of disrespect" and what not LOL because apparently even the BCB is living in the lala land like some of its fans.

I personally criticized it because cricket should not be all about profit.

2) No, it has not been proven anywhere that the Bangladesh series is more profitable. Another baseless point.

3) If you think BCCI's agreement which spanned on various years and series and was based on the Big 3 vote is similar to Pakistan not touring Bangladesh then i am shocked at the level of education in Bangladesh.

4) PCB had full rights to cancel the series because they were assured by the BCB board that their team would visit Pakistan but were later back stabbed as the courts got involved.

If Bangladesh wants to play Pakistan, they can only play us in Pakistan. Otherwise, Allah hafiz.

 

[Executioner]

WI and Lanka are not just better in test but they are former world champions with a rich history.

Things Bangladesh have no substance in.

You guys are average in ODIs and are currently better than the two when these two are probably going through their worst phase.

Sorry, but i do not see how Bangladesh comes above the two at all. We dont just only play ODI cricket in UAE.

WI aren't going to get any better anytime soon.

And overtime Bangladesh will improve.

Oh and rich history and heritage matters little to sponsors and broadcasters

 

[Slim]

WI aren't going to get any better anytime soon.

And overtime Bangladesh will improve.

Oh and rich history and heritage matters little to sponsors and broadcasters

It means a lot to sponsors and broadcasters buddy. Read up the concept of brand equity.

You guys said you will improve in 2015 as well but you rather regressed.

 

[Executioner]

It means a lot to sponsors and broadcasters buddy. Read up the concept of brand equity.

You guys said you will improve in 2015 as well but you rather regressed.

I thought we have been doing well in patches. We only truly improved in T20Is to an extent. Won a test against England and Australia at home. Went to SF of CT. Our ODI performance could have been better

In a high profile tournament like Asia Cup we begin by beating Lanka by 140 runs

And you talk about "brand value" but does it matter when our sponsors are taking charge. The thing is, when we play in UAE, Pakistan don't need to think about their own sponsors. Our sponsors will be playing huge money themselves.

 

[BDfanforever]

Maybe you start working up on your reading skills before you start calling others wrong.

I clearly mentioned Australia and SA wrt to buying power.

I clearly mentioned WI and SRL wrt to their prestige.

In cricket sense, purchasing power of BD in cricket is significantly higher than average people. For example, if USA plays cricket it would have purchasing power more than all the test cricket nation combined, but since no one in USA cares about Cricket it has very little purchasing power in cricketing world.

For example, NZ and Aus are far more developed than India but it doesn't mean their purchasing power when it comes to Cricket world is higher than India.

Do you get it now?

 

[Slim]

I thought we have been doing well in patches. We only truly improved in T20Is to an extent. Won a test against England and Australia at home. Went to SF of CT. Our ODI performance could have been better

In a high profile tournament like Asia Cup we begin by beating Lanka by 140 runs

And you talk about "brand value" but does it matter when our sponsors are taking charge. The thing is, when we play in UAE, Pakistan don't need to think about their own sponsors. Our sponsors will be playing huge money themselves.

You have only managed to win series at home at the peak of your cricket and then the performances tanked when you started going out of Bangladesh post 2015.

Yes, i realize that the fans feel elated today and rightly so but always remember one swallow does not make a whole summer. I truly want Bangla cricket to progress, you are a passionate lot but that does not mean we start believing in non-existent stuff.

During the same period, WI has managed to win another world cup. SRL has held their own and drew with England away and white washed Pakistan in tests. Something unimaginable for Bangladesh.

Bangladesh has ZERO silverware to show for. They have not won even a tri series tournament. Its just very unfortunate and sad.

You talk big like spilling money for brand sponsors is easy but thats again based on speculation and nothing else.

 

[Slim]

In cricket sense, purchasing power of BD in cricket is significantly higher than average people. For example, if USA plays cricket it would have purchasing power more than all the test cricket nation combined, but since no one in USA cares about Cricket it has very little purchasing power in cricketing world.

For example, NZ and Aus are far more developed than India but it doesn't mean their purchasing power when it comes to Cricket world is higher than India.

Do you get it now?

Your comparison does not makes sense because Bangladesh's cricketing power is non comparable to Australia, South Africa.

Have you heard about the Big 3?

The example which includes India is a totally different ball game where Bangladesh does not comes into play.

 

[BDfanforever]

Your comparison does not makes sense because Bangladesh's cricketing power is non comparable to Australia, South Africa.

Have you heard about the Big 3?

The example which includes India is a totally different ball game where Bangladesh does not comes into play.

I did not say BD purchasing power in terms of Cricket is higher than RSA or Australia.

I am merely pointing out your gross underestimation of BD Cricket purchasing power especially among Asian teams.

If we are so unprofitable, then why does NZ host us? cost of living in NZ is probably more than in UAE.

 

[Executioner]

You have only managed to win series at home at the peak of your cricket and then the performances tanked when you started going out of Bangladesh post 2015.

Yes, i realize that the fans feel elated today and rightly so but always remember one swallow does not make a whole summer. I truly want Bangla cricket to progress, you are a passionate lot but that does not mean we start believing in non-existent stuff.

During the same period, WI has managed to win another world cup. SRL has held their own and drew with England away and white washed Pakistan in tests. Something unimaginable for Bangladesh.

Bangladesh has ZERO silverware to show for. They have not won even a tri series tournament. Its just very unfortunate and sad.

You talk big like spilling money for brand sponsors is easy but thats again based on speculation and nothing else.

For a relatively young nation we still should have more silverware in our closet.

But you are completely disregarding the point that our sponsors will be contributing lion's share of the money. Today in the stands, 1 percent of the fans were lankan and 99 percent were BDeshis or neutrals.

Australia has 5 world cups, several champions trophy yet teams want to host India who has 40% of the silverware Australia has. Indian test teams never really stood up to the great Australian test team. But as of now everyone is willing to invite India and not Australia where GDP is higher, a rich history and some of the best cricketing facilities in the world. But India got the population, India got sponsors and right now they are ahead of Australia.

We toured west indies and barely a cumulative 20000 people came to watch the 4 LOI matches that was held in West indies. Don't give the point that its because we are a weak team because we actually beat them 2-1 in both LOI series.

Nonetheless i wont deny our performance in tests need to improve.

 

[RainMan_]

Buddy, even though you have proved to be a very foolish poster but i would like to clear a few things before i stop responding to you on this thread;

1) Bangladesh's tour to Australia was cancelled because CA considered it unprofitable:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23448922/australia-cancel-hosting-bangladesh-later-year

SRL and WI regular tour to Australia. Have some shame before spouting lies and utter rubbish. I am sure the bangla ego was hurt after this as CA was accused of "lack of disrespect" and what not LOL because apparently even the BCB is living in the lala land like some of its fans.

I personally criticized it because cricket should not be all about profit.

2) No, it has not been proven anywhere that the Bangladesh series is more profitable. Another baseless point.

3) If you think BCCI's agreement which spanned on various years and series and was based on the Big 3 vote is similar to Pakistan not touring Bangladesh then i am shocked at the level of education in Bangladesh.

4) PCB had full rights to cancel the series because they were assured by the BCB board that their team would visit Pakistan but were later back stabbed as the courts got involved.

If Bangladesh wants to play Pakistan, they can only play us in Pakistan. Otherwise, Allah hafiz.

Looks like a u r attempting to get personal now. Not surprising though. its the last resort of those who can't give valid reasons in an argument

Ur second point is wrong too. Australia tour didn't get canceled, it get postponed. It was a bad time for a cricket series since it was a busy schedule for other sporting events in Australia. That series will eventually take place just like the way Australia-BD series took place in BD last year after getting postponed. At first Australia were sceptic about the security situation of BD and postpone the series. But once they were assured about the security of their players they toured BD. SIMILARLY, Australia tour of BANGLADESH will eventually happen.


It has already been proven that BD companies r more Interested in sponsoring a series involving BD compared to SL or WI. Even neutral serieses r now getting sponsored by big Bangladeshu companies.


Furthermore, lots of expat from Bangladesh r available in UAE compared to SL, or WI. Today's match was a primed example. There was hardly any sl supporters in the crowd today and it felt as if the match was being played in Bangladesh. Another proof why BD is more profitable as a touring team.


More interested supporters mean more TV viewership, more advertisement and eventually more money for the sponsors as well as for the host. Its basic marketing. But obviously i don't expect u to understand that.


Whenever a match takes place in UAE it feels as if its being played in a graveyard. But today the whole stadium was buzzing and most of the supporters were Bangladeshi. Spectator number would have been even more if the match was against India or Pakistan. West indies and SL can only dream of having such passionate viewers. That means, matches involving BD has more viewers, hence they more profitable.

A breach of an agreement is a breach of an agreement. Whether the agreement was for three years or three moths doesn't matter here. BD didn't tour Pakistan because Pakistan wasn't safe for our cricketers to play cricket. No cricket team visits there due to security concern. So Bangladesh had a valid reason whereas PCB didn't have any valid reasons behind canceling the tour. If Pakistan can improve its security situation and can prove that in front of the world we will have no problem to visit Pakistan.


And no, PCB didn't get back stabbed. No body can go against the rule of court. Don't know how it works in Pak but this is how things work everywhere in the world. But that's not the case with pak touring BD. They Did't have any valid reason. Hence it was wrong and unethical. But as I said earlier, they tried to flex their non existent muscle against BD by playing these dirty tactics and didn't expect that they would get a shut up call from BCB in this manner.

 

[Slim]

I did not say BD purchasing power in terms of Cricket is higher than RSA or Australia.

I am merely pointing out your gross underestimation of BD Cricket purchasing power especially among Asian teams.

If we are so unprofitable, then why does NZ host us? cost of living in NZ is probably more than in UAE.

My comparison with regards to purchasing power was only limited to RSA and AUS.

Please, i request, please read posts clearly before you answer them. I have constantly notice this trait in Bangladeshi posters that they dont read the posts properly and are answering points that were not even raised to begin with.

NZ is a home series, you are playing at their home for god sake in their home grounds. Why do i have to explain basic stuff? We have no issues if you play us in Pakistan. Be our guests, welcome!

 

[Slim]

For a relatively young nation we still should have more silverware in our closet.

But you are completely disregarding the point that our sponsors will be contributing lion's share of the money. Today in the stands, 1 percent of the fans were lankan and 99 percent were BDeshis or neutrals.

Australia has 5 world cups, several champions trophy yet teams want to host India who has 40% of the silverware Australia has. Indian test teams never really stood up to the great Australian test team. But as of now everyone is willing to invite India and not Australia where GDP is higher, a rich history and some of the best cricketing facilities in the world. But India got the population, India got sponsors and right now they are ahead of Australia.

We toured west indies and barely a cumulative 20000 people came to watch the 4 LOI matches that was held in West indies. Don't give the point that its because we are a weak team because we actually beat them 2-1 in both LOI series.

Nonetheless i wont deny our performance in tests need to improve.

Executioner, you are a smart guy. Dont compare yourself to a BRIC/SCO nation. Thanks. I am exhausted.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Pcb is scared BD fans will fill up the stadium and make the “home”
Team look like the away side lol

 

[Hasan123]

I have no issue with playing Bangladesh in UAE.

 

[Executioner]

Executioner, you are a smart guy. Dont compare yourself to a BRIC/SCO nation. Thanks. I am exhausted.

nah mate I ain't comparing.

But you tell me don't you think PCB will actually get more money overall thanks to Bangladesh sponsors and BD people turning up at the stands rather than Lanka and WI who will neither contribute in terms of sponsorship or stadium attendance.

I don't know about you, but the average Pakistani these days wouldn't really prefer a LOI series against Lanka these days, certainly not if they are being bundled out for 124

 

[light]

Bangladesh fans always come in droves in the UAE. Even in PSL, they used to come to watch their players play.

The truth is PCB could earn a lot of revenue by playing Bangladesh in UAE, but it is an ego issue for them since they want them to tour Pakistan instead, which Bangladesh are reluctant to do, which is why they have not been invited to UAE, while making this excuse.

Honestly speaking, this ego, political nonsense in sports kills the fun for fans. Look at India-Pakistan, don't play series cause why? POLITICAL LEADERS ARE DOUCH BAGS! BD/PAK don't play series? Why? Cause BCB-PCB heads are dumb arses who doesn't know how to negociate anything properly and are sitting with ego problems. This He said/ she said only makes the fans miss out on cricket and players chance to shine/earn money. At the end of the day, none of us gives a crap about political issues, we just want to watch cricket. That's it, that's all.

 

[Slim]

nah mate I ain't comparing.

But you tell me don't you think PCB will actually get more money overall thanks to Bangladesh sponsors and BD people turning up at the stands rather than Lanka and WI who will neither contribute in terms of sponsorship or stadium attendance.

I don't know about you, but the average Pakistani these days wouldn't really prefer a LOI series against Lanka these days, certainly not if they are being bundled out for 124

Average pakistani does not care if we are playing Lanka or Bangla to be honest but if you guys end up visiting our country, it would help creating harmony and peace. A PCB-BCB partnership will only help the two boards but you government is too pro-India for that to happen.

I personally dont mind playing Bangladesh in UAE if we are playing only ODIs.

 

[Executioner]

Average pakistani does not care if we are playing Lanka or Bangla to be honest but if you guys end up visiting our country, it would help creating harmony and peace. A PCB-BCB partnership will only help the two boards but you government is too pro-India for that to happen.

I personally dont mind playing Bangladesh in UAE if we are playing only ODIs.

First and foremost, BCB isn't bothered about BCCI. BCB are keen to see us play Pakistan. Do you know that Pakistan W and BD W regularly play against each other?

I honestly believe PCB is too busy trying to get BD to tour Pakistan. I don't think it has any real benefit. BD touring UAE would help PCB get good revenue. Also helps us because we are playing overseas against a good side. Besides, we have never really played in UAE.

I believe it would be a decent series. yes right now Pakistan look better but in these conditions we can be good too.

 

[MMHS]

No need to play bilaterals with PAK, any where - let them enjoy Jason Mo's WIN and make money, lots of it.

Personally, if there is a voting on boycotting PAK from bilaterals, I'll vote for 10 years. I don't mind playing PCBs tam in tournaments, but won't mind two points if they give walk over in that game as well. Let it kill till dead end - it'll be fun to see who stands where.

 

[Slim]

First and foremost, BCB isn't bothered about BCCI. BCB are keen to see us play Pakistan. Do you know that Pakistan W and BD W regularly play against each other?

I honestly believe PCB is too busy trying to get BD to tour Pakistan. I don't think it has any real benefit. BD touring UAE would help PCB get good revenue. Also helps us because we are playing overseas against a good side. Besides, we have never really played in UAE.

I believe it would be a decent series. yes right now Pakistan look better but in these conditions we can be good too.

PCB's main goal is to return cricket to Pakistan.

When much bigger teams like SRL and WI have already visited Pakistan, i dont see PCB agreeing to play Bangladesh in UAE now.

Now other posters can try acting brave and call for boycott for bilaterls. Most welcome but we already have drawn first blood and that makes them sound like sore losers.

Sorry buddy, i feel that an ODI series would be fun but dont see it happening in UAE.

 

[Executioner]

PCB's main goal is to return cricket to Pakistan.

When much bigger teams like SRL and WI have already visited Pakistan, i dont see PCB agreeing to play Bangladesh in UAE now.

Now other posters can try acting brave and call for boycott for bilaterls. Most welcome but we already have drawn first blood and that makes them sound like sore losers.

Sorry buddy, i feel that an ODI series would be fun but dont see it happening in UAE.

And at the end of the day fans are missing out. I know PCB wants cricket back in Pakistan. BCB hasn't had any problem with that. BD players played PSL in Pakistan. Tamim went to play for World XI

PCB can easily host us if they have already hosted lanka and other teams in UAE.

 

[Slim]

And at the end of the day fans are missing out. I know PCB wants cricket back in Pakistan. BCB hasn't had any problem with that. BD players played PSL in Pakistan. Tamim went to play for World XI

PCB can easily host us if they have already hosted lanka and other teams in UAE.

So, if BCB's players can go play PSL in Pakistan and come to play with World XI then why cannot BCB come to Pakistan then?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

So, if BCB's players can go play PSL in Pakistan and come to play with World XI then why cannot BCB come to Pakistan then?

Politics

You think Hashina wants to help Pakistan, given the history there? When we won the Asia cup in 2012 she blamed the ISI

 

[Executioner]

So, if BCB's players can go play PSL in Pakistan and come to play with World XI then why cannot BCB come to Pakistan then?

Because the fear of an entire team of same nationality being targeted. That incident with Lanka team has left a permanent scar.

I must also add that BCB needs to convince their entire coaching staff too. Its one thing convincing the players but what about foreign coaches?

I believe things will get better in Pakistan and BCB will send their team to Pakistan without the need for extra security but it will still be provided nonetheless

 

[warcry]

hosting bangladesh in the UAE is an insult. either host bangladesh in pakistan or not, i dont care either way.

 

[Slim]

Politics

You think Hashina wants to help Pakistan, given the history there? When we won the Asia cup in 2012 she blamed the ISI

I know, i want the Bangla posters to admit to the reality.

 

[RainMan_]

Politics

You think Hashina wants to help Pakistan, given the history there? When we won the Asia cup in 2012 she blamed the ISI

No, not politics.

We r just concerned about the safety of our players in Pakistan.

In their free time players can go anywhere and do whatever they wish. That's their personal choice. Govt can't do anything against that.

But when the players r touring as a team the responsibility of ensuring the players' safety falls upon the respective board, hence BCB is sceptic about sending BD to tour Pak. They certainly can't force payers to go somewhere which is deemed unsafe for a full fledged series by the rest of the cricket playing nations.

 

[Slim]

Because the fear of an entire team of same nationality being targeted. That incident with Lanka team has left a permanent scar.

I must also add that BCB needs to convince their entire coaching staff too. Its one thing convincing the players but what about foreign coaches?

I believe things will get better in Pakistan and BCB will send their team to Pakistan without the need for extra security but it will still be provided nonetheless

Who are you kidding? Sri Lanka came and toured Pakistan. WI came and toured. PSL has been organized in Pakistan.

I expected better answer from you.

Looks like everyone is fake posturing on internet forums.

 

[Slim]

If some delusionals think that their team's security is still undermined in Pakistan especially i) when ISIS was found in their own country ii) and bigger and better teams have already toured Pakistan then only Allah can help them.

They can stay safe in their homes and stop asking us to host them in UAE.

 

[Executioner]

Who are you kidding? Sri Lanka came and toured Pakistan. WI came and toured. PSL has been organized in Pakistan.

I expected better answer from you.

Looks like everyone is fake posturing on internet forums.

You want to hear the truth? Well i will give to you.

When we want to tour a side, we don't want to be around a few hundred commandos. Its okay for a small tour or so.

We dont like the fact that PCB are trying to play a dirty game with us. I believe if PCB tried to be more diplomatic they could have convinced BD pretty soon. I mean, do you think you can get a girl to go out with you by being needy. You eventually rule out the possibility of her actually being keen to go out with you eventually.