You sound bitter and someone who lost his marbles... [/b]
Why will I be better when my country has produced better batsmen than him?
If I was not a Pakistani, I'd still not be bitter, because unless I was from Bangladesh - whether I was Indian, Australian, English, Sri Lankan, Caribbean, South African or a Kiwi - all of these countries have produced superior batsmen to Younis.
We are not talking about Tendulkar, Lara, Viv Richards or Bradman. We are talking about Younis who doesn't make any neutral discussion of being amongst the greatest batsmen of all time.
Only on PakPassion will you see such nonsense (Dravid vs Younis) comparisons.
First you say Kohli is a better batsman than Amir is as a bowler....
So . . . . what is wrong with that? Do you get angry when people say that sky is blue and grass is green?
How is it not true? Or will you be only satisfied if I say that Amir is the bowling equivalent of Bradman and far better than Kohli?
He has a long, long and long way to go before he can be considered as the bowling equivalent of Kohli. Will he get there? maybe or maybe not, but right now, saying that Kohli is better than Amir at his craft is an obvious statement and nothing to get angry about.
YK has scored runs everywhere and played throughout 2000s against quality bowlers on green tops, rank turners, bouncy and deteriorating wickets. He averages 50 in all 4 innings something that only 2 other batsman have only achieved in history. Converts 1 in 3 of 100s to 150+ scores.
No, no and no.
He has only played 21 Tests in 16 years in Australia, England, South Africa and New Zealand collectively, and NZ for a good 10-12 years of his career (2000-2012), were pretty average.
That is a nothing sample size. Someone like Rahane has already outperformed him overseas, and it is no coincidence that he has a poor record in the South Africa because he has played more matches there compared to Australia and England.
I know what is coming next.
'It is not his fault he hasn't played enough matches there bla bla bla'
As I explained in my previous post, it partially is and the more Younis plays in Australia and England, the more he will get exposed and the worse his record will get, because he's a deeply mediocre player of pace bowling.
One or two good innings mean nothing. People call Kohli a 'rookie' Test batsman even though he has 5 hundreds in his last 5 Tests in Australia and a hundred and a 90 in two Tests in South Africa.
Younis has no sample size in countries like Australia and England and he has struggled quite a bit in SA.
Has scored more runs and hundreds than any other pakistan batsman isn't to be taken lightly
Which means nothing. Every career has a different story. He did not play parallel to other great Pakistani batsmen and no one else has had the luxury of playing a vast majority of their matches on absolute roads against weak bowling, and play so little overseas cricket in a 16 year career.
When he played alongside MoYo, he was generally overshadowed.
and I can keep going on and on
Sure you can, but I'm hoping that somewhere down the road, you will start making sense.
but you'll never stop holding double standard because from what I also remember you said Kohli is the best batsman in all formats. If that's the case why does he average 44 in the era of the most batting friendly conditions and weakest set of bowlers in international test cricket? Or is Kohli worse than anif, Zaheer, Inzamam, Saleem Malik, Saeed Anwar, Majid Khan, Asif Iqbal and MoYo huh???
Firstly, I think Joe Root is the best batsman in the world across all formats.
Secondly, quoting averages and bringing statistics when you don't understand the context means that you will not make sense and that is what is happening here.
The problem is that Kohli has raised the bar so high in ODIs that people write him off in Tests just because he isn't incredible in Tests like he is in ODIs, where he's very close to ATG status.
If you look at Kohli's Test career in isolation, it is very impressive. He is only 27 years old and entering the peak years of his career, and has another 10 years to go, but already he has achieved feats like scoring 6 Test hundreds in Australia as well as one in South Africa.
Ever since he made his Test debut in 2011, India have played too much cricket in the likes of Australia, England, New Zealand (and they have been a quality side in this time) and South Africa.
He has played 17 of his 41 Tests in these countries in just 5 years; in comparison, Younis has played only 21 of his 104 Tests in these countries in 16 years.
Can you believe that?
And still, he has scored 11 Test hundreds so far at an average of 44 at the age of 27 only, with his best years still to come.
How is that a mediocre record? India will play a lot of Tests at home. Watch his average reach 50 in the next few years because he's entering his peak now.
If he gets the opportunity to bash Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Australia on absolute dead wickets for 6 years, he will leave Younis in his dust just like he has left him in his dust already in ODIs.
Javed and Saeed did better than YK but the rest could only wish to be as good... Believe me even in UAE they still wouldn't be successful.
I don't believe a word you say. All of the Pakistani batsmen I mentioned would have far better records had they been gifted the opportunity to bash average bowling attacks for 6 years on the lifeless UAE tracks, which are far better for batting than the Pakistani wickets.
Also not good to have selective memory, what about YK's second last century in the 4th innings in SL scoring 171* virtually played a single hand to win that match and hence clinch the series...
Against Prasad, Lakmal and a rookie spinner like Kaushal. Even Masood scored a hundred, and he's not good enough for this level.
That is the story of his career. Majority of his heroic innings have been against low quality teams in great batting conditions, simply because he has been allowed the opportunities which the other Pakistani batsmen that I mentioned did not.
Just face it and grow up, you're not fan of YK but bum Virat Kohli because your judgement is clouded by aesthetics or nah??
Sorry got bored of your whinging and deceptive posting
My judgement is based on what I see, and what I see is that Younis is a mediocre player of pace but a master against spin, who has named all the records of Pakistani batting in Test cricket not because he has been better than everyone else but because he has been allowed the opportunity to do so.
Kohli is an incredible batsman, and so is Rahane in Test cricket. I will take both over Younis already unless I am playing on a rank-turner, because Younis is a master of playing spin and both of them have not refined their game against spin yet, but they are very young and both will end up as better batsmen than Younis by the time they retire.
Don't be sorry for using offensive words for me; be sorry for not making sense.
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is a decent bat but dravid could bat for hours nd was much more comfortable against pace than yk is
