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Younis Khan versus VVS Laxman

Younis has been a magnificent player, who is more highly regarded outside of Pakistan, than in it.

That said he hasn't played the sort of magical innings that Laxman has played. Then again very few have in the history of the game have.

Without looking at stats I would say Younis is probably more consistent but when Laxman performs, it is truly special.
 
Laxman is a gifted player.
Y.Khan is an honest trier.
Both do great job for their respective teams.
 
Very hard to tell.

If I've to chose one then it'll be probably :yk but I might be biased there.

None of them in the ODI side though.
 
Younis is more consistent than laxman, has a better technique, can play better in tougher conditions and generally scores more
 
I believe if you compare them just as batsmen then there may be some comparison but overall it is not fair to compare apples and oranges. Younis as a leader, as a fielder and as a part time bowler proved himself. Also as a batsman if you are in a line up starting with Sewag, Tendulkar, Dravid, Gangully, and ending with Dhoni, you should be pretty relax even if you commit a mistake. While on other hand if you are coming to bat at one down position with more often one or both openers being out in first 5 overs and then no big batting prospect to follow you, you should be facing different ball, match and mental pressure conditions. I wouldn't be surprise to see better batting statistics for Younis when he was followed by Inzi and MoYo both.

It may not be very fair to say but look at Ponting current performance when one of the opener get out very early in the game versus when Mathew Hayden and Langer et al were giving 100 + start before Ponting was coming out to bat.

So keeping all factors and qualities in equation, I will rate Younis Khan way higher than Laxman though among Indian batsmen I do think Laxman is better prepare to handle pressure than other big names.
 
^ Whilst true he OP is asking about pressure situations.

Brilliant question... YK..For the press ups -

YK digs you out of holes
Laxman seems to to do this with a little more flair.
 
A tough one.

I will say Laxman because of what he has done recently when he won the game against Australia, and also because of many other times he has won it for India against Australia.
 
You have to say that VVS has the edge with all those match-changing performances under pressure.
 
you guys are idiots. You are comparing a part time player to the best batsmen in Pakistan.
Younis Khan's ODI avg's are not in the 40's because he in the beginning of his career he was always batting 5,6,7.
 
well Younis Khan averages 50.09 in test cricket and 33 in ODI cricket , VVS averages 47 in test cricket and 30 in ODI cricket.
So going by the stats its pretty easy to see who is the better batsman
 
Laxman struggles with in cutters but better with outside off stump dollys . While Younis khan struggles with outswingers . Both r run scoring machines on thier days . My preference is Younis though . More reliable .
 
Younis khan has probably had to save pakistan 90% of all the matches he's played considering an opener always got out early. One bats at 3, the other at 6
 
a bowler who can bowl an off cutter can own laxman , both are wonderful players. Younis khan has an edge as he plays at one down the most important and difficult position to bat at. Laxman has saved india in many matches and so has younis( pakistan of course)
 
Both are world class batsmen, but if you ask me to choose one of them, then VVS Laxman it's. That guy plays till the end, and always perform well against Australia and done well in the past. Both are not decent ODI batsmen though, but i will have Sehwag and Laxman over Younus and Yousuf. They are match winners, and perform well against Australia. Surprisingly, they struggle in South Africa big times. Last time, Pakistan toured in South Africa, Younus played well, and Yousuf came close to century in 3rd Test which was most difficult wicket both Pakistan and South Africa have ever played, and the game finished in day 3.

It's similar to why I will choose Inzimam over Tendulkar even though Tendulkar is Legend and world best batsman.
 
zulfi00 said:
I believe if you compare them just as batsmen then there may be some comparison but overall it is not fair to compare apples and oranges. Younis as a leader, as a fielder and as a part time bowler proved himself. Also as a batsman if you are in a line up starting with Sewag, Tendulkar, Dravid, Gangully, and ending with Dhoni, you should be pretty relax even if you commit a mistake. While on other hand if you are coming to bat at one down position with more often one or both openers being out in first 5 overs and then no big batting prospect to follow you, you should be facing different ball, match and mental pressure conditions. I wouldn't be surprise to see better batting statistics for Younis when he was followed by Inzi and MoYo both.

It may not be very fair to say but look at Ponting current performance when one of the opener get out very early in the game versus when Mathew Hayden and Langer et al were giving 100 + start before Ponting was coming out to bat.

So keeping all factors and qualities in equation, I will rate Younis Khan way higher than Laxman though among Indian batsmen I do think Laxman is better prepare to handle pressure than other big names.
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Well said . I agreed . YK also has higher avg.
 
VVS saves India.....again. I gotta say that guy is what we want Younis Khan to be these days.
 
compare their batting? its hard to call...both very good test match players

but younus was a brilliant captain and is a brilliant fielder

all round its got to be younus right?

without any bias because vvs is class
 
Tough one

VVS much more gifted but at the end of the day performance wise both have had similar careers.
 
YK is all application and hard work

VVS is all class and sublime wrist work

both good at what they do :)
 
Its a difficult comparison to be honest

Both have similar test records, both have been disappointing in the shorter formats (especially VVS)

Things in Younis Khan's favour:

Slightly better test average

Its difficult to look past Laxman off late, but remember, we are looking at a whole career and Laxman has gone through his fair share of "troubled times"

Another thing in Younis Khan's favour is that he has had to bat at 3 for virtually all of his career whereas Laxman has batted at 5 and below more often.

And lastly, Laxman hasn't had the pressure of carrying the batting line up like Younis has

Things in Laxman's favour:

Performances against Australia - best team of his time

Match winning performances under pressure, won his side more matches than Younis

Played an instrumental role in making his side the no.1 test side

Longevity, Laxman has played and performed for longer

Much more pleasing on the eye than Younis Khan
 
Most comparisons are unfair. YK and Laxman play different roles in their teams. Laxman, when he performs, does it in style. He is team India's miracle man.
 
Lets not get carried away here, when the pressure is on and the game is on the line Laxman saved or has won matches for India time and time again. Tendulkar gets all the accolades but its Laxman who is the most valuable batsman in the Indian team. In that respect Laxman is better than Tendulkar let alone YK.
 
VVS Laxman would definitely be an easy choice for me:).
 
Very tough choice between to cricketers who are fighters with cricket bat in hand.
 
Younis has a slight dis-advantage here...

He plays in all three formats which is quite difficult as he has to deliver a different approach with the bat which is appropiate for the format.

Where Laxman is only being used in the longer format of the game and has only one format to concentrate on.
 
Both are class batsmen.

YK has to bat number 3 for Pak which is virtually opening as were always losing an early wicket, and opening is the hardest place to bat,the bowlers are fresh, new ball, fresh pitch and energetic fielders.

Laxman has had to bat a lower down the order which is easier in one sense but can also be more difficult as he's having to bat with the tail.

Whereas VVS has to concetrate on one form of the game, YK has to concentrate on two to three. Thus making it more difficult for YK to adapt to the different formats.

VVS has probably won more games for India, but no doubt YK has come in at pressure situations losing an early wicket, YK also has a higher average.

IMO it comes down to personal opinion, i would go with YK
 
YK for me is the better batsman. Bats at no.3 and has a higher average. Plus he's more vital to the Pakistani batting line up than Laxman.

But if we're only talking about performing under pressure then it's not even close. It's laxman by a country mile.
 
If this questions was asked to cricket team captains of all the countries.. They will all chose VVS.. Even Pakistan captain would chose VVS.. Anyway who is Pakistan captain these days? Have they gone back to Afridi yet? Any time now he should be coming back from retirement.
 
I think its pretty obvious who the better batsman is , Both Laxman/YK are the same age but Laxman is falling apart and it seems like his career is about to end while YK has been in the form of his career lately
 
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VVS Laxman, the guy played many match winning knocks against South Africa last year and occasionally against Australia, I don't remember :yk match winning knocks against quality bowlers
 
ahem ahem...bump

Also, Dhoni183, who unsurprisingly said:
DHONI183 said:
VVS Laxman would definitely be an easy choice for me:).
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...haven't seen him posting in the cricket forums ever since India went on a phainty roll.:13: Apparently he's active in off topic though.
 
Legend Killer said:
I think its pretty obvious who the better batsman is , Both Laxman/YK are the same age but Laxman is falling apart and it seems like his career is about to end while YK has been in the form of his career lately
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Laxman has been plying Eng n Aus,YK played BD,SL.even Laxman got 176* v WI recently
 
Laxman did well against aussies in his prime (and the aussies prime too). He has won matches in tougher situations as well. But i dont see how comparing someone who lays the foundation (younis) to someone whobats with the tail (Laxman). Comparing him to Inzi makes more sense.
 
VVS is more easy on the eyes, very graceful. Whereas YK is more about grinding it out in the middle. He does have some great shots too. But I think YK is possibly more reliable.
 
laxman has played in an era of supposedly batting friendly pitches....he bats at 6 when the ball gets older etc etc....and he doesn't average 50....so how can u compare him yk?!
 
PakPosheeda said:
ahem ahem...bump

Also, Dhoni183, who unsurprisingly said:


...haven't seen him posting in the cricket forums ever since India went on a phainty roll.:13: Apparently he's active in off topic though.
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Wow some people are so obsessed:))! Look, I haven´t been posting much on either of 'Cricket' or 'Time Pass' forum since quite a time. Just been a bit busy. But good thing is that people who were then obsessed with me are still so and miss me a great deal.

Kindly refrain from making misleading statements and also for making false allegations:).

As for VVS Laxman, yes, he is having a terrible time right now at the end of his career but that doesn´t take away what I said back then. Since my post, VVS Laxman has done very poorly and has averaged 37.91 whilst Younis Khan has done superbly at an average of 85.

But come on mate, we both know the bowling attacks both of them have faced and also the conditions they have played in. This, however, does not make for any excuses for VSS Laxman´s below par performances in the given period.

And yes, I am not here to debate anything. Choice of players is a matter of opinion and taste.

Good day:19:!
 
DHONI183 said:
Wow some people are so obsessed:))! Look, I haven´t been posting much on either of 'Cricket' or 'Time Pass' forum since quite a time. Just been a bit busy. But good thing is that people who were then obsessed with me are still so and miss me a great deal.

Kindly refrain from making misleading statements and also for making false allegations:).

As for VVS Laxman, yes, he is having a terrible time right now at the end of his career but that doesn´t take away what I said back then. Since my post, VVS Laxman has done very poorly and has averaged 37.91 whilst Younis Khan has done superbly at an average of 85.

But come on mate, we both know the bowling attacks both of them have faced and also the conditions they have played in. This, however, does not make for any excuses for VSS Laxman´s below par performances in the given period.

And yes, I am not here to debate anything. Choice of players is a matter of opinion and taste.

Good day:19:!
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Can you point to one I made?

I'm not debating YK vs VVS, everyone knows the answer. But the fact you claim to be a Pakistani, support India and mysteriously disappear when India is getting thrashed OR Pakistan is winning. Didn't W63L35 observe that first?
 
PakPosheeda said:
Can you point to one I made?
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Yes,........

PakPosheeda said:
...haven't seen him posting in the cricket forums ever since India went on a phainty roll.:13: Apparently he's active in off topic though.
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My last post before kind of re-entering the 'Cricket' forum was way back on the 2nd of December, a month before India´s first Test match in Australia (or the start of their 'Phainty' over there). Funnily enough, those were the days when India were beating a day-light out of West Indies at home as Virender Sehwag scored a record 219 in ODI Cricket and I was missing:)).

So once again.......

DHONI183 said:
Kindly refrain from making misleading statements and also for making false allegations:).
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PakPosheeda said:
I'm not debating YK vs VVS, everyone knows the answer. But the fact you claim to be a Pakistani, support India and mysteriously disappear when India is getting thrashed OR Pakistan is winning. Didn't W63L35 observe that first?
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The highlighted point has been proven false; rest is your opinion which I cannot change. Let me make it clear, I do not rely upon your 'vote of confidence' or approval of myself being a Pakistani or not. So for God´s sake give up this annoying obsession with my nationality, personality, choice of players etc.!

Good day:19:!
 
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younis averages over 50 batting at number 3 for most of his career. if laxman was at 3, he'd probably average 32
 
This is such a no - contest

YK by an absolute country mile. Laxman has probably played his final test, or at the most, will play in the 4th Test against Aus just so his avg can drop a little more.
 
YK no contest

a fighter and true team man, plus VVS is faded into oblivion whereas YK is on the up
 
No Brainer, Younis Khan any day.

Looking at the stats it tells a story itself, Laxman just does not go on to convert his starts. 133 Test matches and only 17 test centuries!!! whereas YK has 19 already from 73 matches and almost 100 innings less.

Younis's average baloons over Laxmans.


Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50
YK 73 128 11 6205 313 53.03 53.28 19 25
VVS 133 223 34 8728 281 46.17 49.43 17 56


However If your looking for style and touch then VVS, otherwise no contest.
 
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VVS Laxman, too much class.

They have very similar averages and strike rates. Laxman edges out YK in producing those very special knocks through which he completely shifts the momentum in India's favour. Those dominating and heroic knocks :bow:
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
VVS Laxman, too much class.

They have very similar averages and strike rates. Laxman edges out YK in producing those very special knocks through which he completely shifts the momentum in India's favour. Those dominating and heroic knocks :bow:
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A difference of 7 runs per innings is similar? :13:
 
I think that us Pakistanys should have a little bit more self respect and stop comparing our players to record hunting nobodys who are only decent on home conditions.

On paper India's top 6 should hsve propelled India to world dominance over the past 10-15 years but it didnt and there is a good reason for it...End of Story.
 
laxman without a doubt vs the best team was superior despite younis averaging slightly more but younis played less tests.

Overall though I think khan is the better player
 
Is this even a comparison? Yk is a much better then Laxman; their records portray this.
 
Younis averaged more than slightly more [MENTION=150610]tyron_woodley[/MENTION]. He averaged like 5 more

When the thread was started it was a discussion but not anymore. YK is an ATG, VVS was not
 
tyron_woodley said:
laxman without a doubt vs the best team was superior despite younis averaging slightly more but younis played less tests.

Overall though I think khan is the better player
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I am not sure what you really meant by slightly more, YK averages a full 5 points more over 118 tests, while having a better SR, and this despite having only half the Not Outs compared to Laxman (19 vs 34)!

YK played 16 less tests and yet has twice the 100's (34 vs 17)...quite a few of his 100's being big ones as well. Despite being not the player he once was at the end of his career, YK scored heavily just based on his grit and I think it is unfair to compare him to Laxman. As highly as Dravid is rated, if one compares YK's numbers with him, in some of the same aspects he matches or even betters Dravid!

VVS: https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/30750.html
YK: https://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/43652.html
Dravid: https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/28114.html
 
Romali_rotti said:
VVS against ATG to good bowlers:

filtered 1996-2011 38 2568 281 44.27 5 0 - - 0 42 0

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e..._involve=47154;template=results;type=allround


Younis Khan Against ATG to good bowlers:


filtered 2000-2013 23 1403 131* 33.40 4 2 1/16 62.50 0 31 0 -29.09

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e..._involve=47154;template=results;type=allround


Dont get me wrong, Younis is one of my favourite batsmen ever, VVS edges it though..
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That’s a fairly senseless comparison when the majority of these guys had retired by the time Younis Khan came to his peak.

For one guy you’re using the peak and for the other no.
 
Monsee said:
I am not sure what you really meant by slightly more, YK averages a full 5 points more over 118 tests, while having a better SR, and this despite having only half the Not Outs compared to Laxman (19 vs 34)!

YK played 16 less tests and yet has twice the 100's (34 vs 17)...quite a few of his 100's being big ones as well. Despite being not the player he once was at the end of his career, YK scored heavily just based on his grit and I think it is unfair to compare him to Laxman. As highly as Dravid is rated, if one compares YK's numbers with him, in some of the same aspects he matches or even betters Dravid!

VVS: https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/30750.html
YK: https://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/43652.html
Dravid: https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/28114.html
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I personally rate Younis higher than Dravid...
 
therealAB said:
Younis averaged more than slightly more [MENTION=150610]tyron_woodley[/MENTION]. He averaged like 5 more

When the thread was started it was a discussion but not anymore. YK is an ATG, VVS was not
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he played 6 games vs australia in australia.
VVS played 10. Younis's average would have dropped a fair bit if he played more.

Younis is still greater than VVS though.
 
Monsee said:
I am not sure what you really meant by slightly more, YK averages a full 5 points more over 118 tests, while having a better SR, and this despite having only half the Not Outs compared to Laxman (19 vs 34)!

YK played 16 less tests and yet has twice the 100's (34 vs 17)...quite a few of his 100's being big ones as well. Despite being not the player he once was at the end of his career, YK scored heavily just based on his grit and I think it is unfair to compare him to Laxman. As highly as Dravid is rated, if one compares YK's numbers with him, in some of the same aspects he matches or even betters Dravid!

VVS: https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/30750.html
YK: https://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/43652.html
Dravid: https://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/28114.html
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VVS had more not outs because he was difficult to bowl to when he is in form. He often batted with the tall.

At their peaks both were just as good as each other but younis takes this comfortably because he had a longer prime.

Younis in my opinion is the best Pakistani batsman ever along with miandad.
 
Romali_rotti said:
VVS against ATG to good bowlers:

filtered 1996-2011 38 2568 281 44.27 5 0 - - 0 42 0

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e..._involve=47154;template=results;type=allround


Younis Khan Against ATG to good bowlers:


filtered 2000-2013 23 1403 131* 33.40 4 2 1/16 62.50 0 31 0 -29.09

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e..._involve=47154;template=results;type=allround


Dont get me wrong, Younis is one of my favourite batsmen ever, VVS edges it though..
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rubbish.
it's signficantly harder to bowl in the current era with the batting friendly pitches on offer. If anything modern bowlers post 2010 are the best. Lot of the past greats would struggle with the rule changes post 2000.
 
tyron_woodley said:
he played 6 games vs australia in australia.
VVS played 10. Younis's average would have dropped a fair bit if he played more.

Younis is still greater than VVS though.
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Younis averaged over 50 in Aus. His average would not have dropped
 
Slog said:
That’s a fairly senseless comparison when the majority of these guys had retired by the time Younis Khan came to his peak.

For one guy you’re using the peak and for the other no.
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The comparison is legit, its based on who Younis faced in his career.

We can take A\mbrose and Walsh out as Younis may not have faced those bowlers, I set the criteria same as VVS hence I put the WI bowlers.

You are now talking about a 'wouldve, shouldve, couldve' now there is a place for this if Younis had an injury plagued time period, however that is not the case for Younis.

One good example is Mohammad Yousuf, when he had the record breaking year, he was at his peak, he scored heavily in Pakistan and Eng and in some other Asian countries, but the minute he toured SA, his avg was like 35 in that series ?. So you get the picture here, numbers always speak for themselves...
 
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