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“Mohammad Rizwan is better than me": Sarfaraz Ahmed

mominsaigol said:
What happened in the super over against USA? Where did Rizzu's keeping skills flop off to? Actually can you explain why such a goat keeper can't read DRS for the life of him?
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how many DRS has sarfaraz messed up as he was not just a keeper, but a captain as well???
 
Mohammad Rizwan is a better batter than Sarfaraz but Saifi was a better captain.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Mohammad Rizwan is a better batter than Sarfaraz but Saifi was a better captain.
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no doubt Sarfaraz is miles ahead if u compare him on his leadership skills but we havent seen rizwan yet in leadership role.. maybe he will become a better captain for Pakistan because right now anytghing could be better if u see Shan Masood in this role.
 
gazza619 said:
We dont know that yet, do we.

Riz should have been made captain of the national team a few years ago but the mafia kept him out.
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What do you want to know?

Sarfaraz won his country a CT and u19 World Cup

That’s like me saying “we don’t know if Imran Khan is a better captain than Asif Ali”

Your mate Rizwan is a loose canon. No one in the PCB trusts him
 
gazza619 said:
Agreed. To win the trust of the corrupt incompetent PCB one needs to be mentally weak, a yes sir guy and have no self esteem.
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It’s not about ‘yes sir guy’. It’s more of a situation to give a monkey a gun.

By all means, see this unfold before your eyes. You could care less about Pakistan like you all did in 2019
 
Rana said:
What do you want to know?

Sarfaraz won his country a CT and u19 World Cup

That’s like me saying “we don’t know if Imran Khan is a better captain than Asif Ali”

Your mate Rizwan is a loose canon. No one in the PCB trusts him
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CT, Under 19, no 1 t20, defeated England 2x in 2 cups(ct and wc) in their home den, best psl record, was the only glue that prevented a humilating wc 2015 pre QF exit and prevented the only loss from NZ at home.

His NZ innings + his 61 not put against sri lanka + his 2 innings against SA and Ireland into QF is superior to anything rizwan has and will ever do. Cricket is not only about statistical stat sheets, but sab bhar mei jai as long as we can say oo look rizwan shiny 171, me likey
 
Mohammad Rizwan would be a reflection of Sarfaraz as captain. But unlike saifi he won't utter abuses for fumbles instead will open his arms with big beaming smile.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Mohammad Rizwan would be a reflection of Sarfaraz as captain. But unlike saifi he won't utter abuses for fumbles instead will open his arms with big beaming smile.
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And when rizwan will get to the dressing room, he will start abusing the same player on his mistake saying that he was just acting on the field lol
 
What kind of mentoring is Sarfaraz Ahmed doing? Dolphins yet to win a match in Champions-One-Day Cup. Is it exposing his mentoring and coaching skills?

And in contrast Mohammad Rizwan is yet to lose a game.
 
I salute Sarfraz for speaking the truth. Has been a good lad for Pakistan Cricket. But like his words say. His time is up.

He can't play pace anymore. It was proven in that Australia tour and it did today yet again when he got bowled to a straighter one by Haris Rauf. Looked ugly.
 
Sarfi was always class and hopefully a role can be found for him to develop young Karachi talent. In the remaining year or so of his career he must remain fit and keep challenging Riz, or Riz will fall away very quickly. PK WKs get complacent without competition
 
RidiculousMan said:
I salute Sarfraz for speaking the truth. Has been a good lad for Pakistan Cricket. But like his words say. His time is up.

He can't play pace anymore. It was proven in that Australia tour and it did today yet again when he got bowled to a straighter one by Haris Rauf. Looked ugly.
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Meanwhile, Ravi Ashwin scored a century against a pace attack consisting of Hasan Mahmud and Rana Nahid. It's not about age, it's about intent. Sarfaraz Ahmed's main focus was always on being a leader, not a polished batter, and yes, he delivered with the bat on a few occasions, which I still cherish.
 
FearlessRoar said:
What kind of mentoring is Sarfaraz Ahmed doing? Dolphins yet to win a match in Champions-One-Day Cup. Is it exposing his mentoring and coaching skills?

And in contrast Mohammad Rizwan is yet to lose a game.
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Sending Asif Ali before Qasim Akram is a serious concern from Dolphins management. Seems Sarfaraz failed to select good team combination.
 
As a cricket fan, i feel sarfraz should retire and move his way to coaching. He can be a good tactician. He can bring good results as a coach. He was a typical street smart cricketer from karachi but due to his limitations as a batter in white ball format, he remained very underachieved as a player. But of course no one can challenge his passion and team spirit. In pakistan you need to be a superior player in order to be the good captain full stop
 
Rizwan making record better for Himself every day.

Mohammad Rizwan reaches 2000 Test runs!

He is the fastest Pakistani wicket-keeper batter to the landmark, getting there in 57 innings, beating Sarfaraz Ahmed (59 innings).
 
How did a thread about Sarfaraz praising Rizwan turn into a Sarfaraz vs Rizwan argument? I am sorry to say that but I have noticed there are a few people who turn any discussion into "xyz Karachi player is better than abc non Karachi player".

It such a tired old schtick. You guys need to grow up. Be mature like Sarfaraz.
 
So far it's 2 in 2 ODI series win for Rizwan, Sarfaraz didn't had any amazing ODI series winning streak but in T20I he won nearly like dozen on trot.
 
Rizwan is not even worth one sarfu's .... when he gets some silverware we can consider him half decent talking in terms of captaincy otherwise both avg players.
 
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Rizwan now needs a CT glory to be on par with Sarfaraz as captain...in ODIs he has already won 3 away series on trot.
 
Sarfaraz was a good captain. Pak team in odi and t20 was far more settled under him then ba/riz.

Garbage Test captain however Our 2019 team still beats our current team form wise.

1) Fakhar
2) Imam
3) Babar
4) Hafeez
5) Haris sohail
6) Malik
7) Sarfaraz
8) Imad
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen
11) Amir

Vs

1) Saim Ayub
2) Abdullah
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Kamran
6) Agha
7) Irfan
8) Shaheen
9) Naseem
10) Rauf
11) Abrar

2024 has a weaker tail and the tail starts at 7 cause niazi is useless in at 7.

Abdullah is also a passenger and Ba + Riz + Kamran + Agha are good but their all same mould players giving a very 1990 lineup.
 
mominsaigol said:
Sarfaraz was a good captain. Pak team in odi and t20 was far more settled under him then ba/riz.

Garbage Test captain however Our 2019 team still beats our current team form wise.

1) Fakhar
2) Imam
3) Babar
4) Hafeez
5) Haris sohail
6) Malik
7) Sarfaraz
8) Imad
9) Hasan Ali
10) Shaheen
11) Amir

Vs

1) Saim Ayub
2) Abdullah
3) Babar
4) Rizwan
5) Kamran
6) Agha
7) Irfan
8) Shaheen
9) Naseem
10) Rauf
11) Abrar

2024 has a weaker tail and the tail starts at 7 cause niazi is useless in at 7.

Abdullah is also a passenger and Ba + Riz + Kamran + Agha are good but their all same mould players giving a very 1990 lineup.
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2019 team had better players also an in form Shaheen who used to bowl in 140s.

Babar was also in form and Haris Sohail was a top notch player.

The problem is that even with a strong team Sarfaraz failed to qualify for knockouts.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
2019 team had better players also an in form Shaheen who used to bowl in 140s.

Babar was also in form and Haris Sohail was a top notch player.

The problem is that even with a strong team Sarfaraz failed to qualify for knockouts.
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Tbf, they were hard done by India losing to Eng, One rain affected game vs sri lanka and a freak accident vs WI.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying pakistan would have won if sri lanka game had taken place, just listing some details, cricket is a funny game. No one would have expected 2019 pakistan to beat England in their own den either.

9 times out of 10, 2019 pakistan would demolish West indies in an odi game and similarly 9 times out of 10 2019 England would crush pakistan.

2019 pakistan was stronger then 2019 sri lanka but anything could have happened.
 
Sarafarz spitted some facts. Riz is better than him as a batter (T2os?? Both were poor and rizwan is now) and he is also doing some good captaincy as well. Sarfaraz has done great service for the country but his time is gone and he recognized the right person.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Sarafarz spitted some facts. Riz is better than him as a batter (T2os?? Both were poor and rizwan is now) and he is also doing some good captaincy as well. Sarfaraz has done great service for the country but his time is gone and he recognized the right person.
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Rizwan is way better then sarfaraz as a batsmen. Infact no one ever denied that.

Problem is Sarfaraz was keeper first batter 2nd, and made sure to shuffle himself from opener to no 7.

Rizwan sticks as opener and no 4, so you can't compare him as a keeper. Rizwan as a t20 opener is rubbish. Plain and simple. However tbf to rizwan his innings in the previous game was very good.

A person can take time but if they don't give their wicket away and being their sr back upto 100, then it's perfect.

Problem is ik for a fact that Rizwan will mess up at no 4.

Younis Khan in odi was scrutinised for the same thing that rizwan is praised for. YK would usually make up for slow starts but because he was inconsistent, 90% of the time he would depart of 20 runs of 40 balls.

Had rizwan departed at 20 or 30 last game, it would have been a rubbish innings.
 
Rizwan is a better Odi batsman than Younis for sure, he is also a better keeper than Sarfaraz.

Rizwan is just not a good t20 cricketer and most of his criticism comes for that.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Rizwan is a better Odi batsman than Younis for sure, he is also a better keeper than Sarfaraz.

Rizwan is just not a good t20 cricketer and most of his criticism comes for that.
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Rizwan is not better then YK, he plays in a much easier era unless you're talking about 2014 odi YK.

YK in his prime has played clutch innings against India that rizwan can't ever dream of.

YK's problem was that 90% of the time he'd go so slow ans get dismissed that he'd cripple his team with his rubbish 20 of 45 balls.

But if he managed to survive, it would be game over for the opposition.

That's not the case with rizwan who's the bare definition of a bottler but has one outlier sri lanka innings in odi in the same way misbah has one outlier innings vs Australia in 2007.

Doesn't change the fact that these 2 are bottlers.

by this logic rizwan is > Lara as an odi batter cause he averages higher and has a higher sr.

Rizwan just like yk is a 30 avg batter in odi and would have had the sake avg and sr as YK, however YK would be chosen over rizzu for tue sake reason he was chosen over misbah, aka value against certain oppositions like India.
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizwan is not better then YK, he plays in a much easier era unless you're talking about 2014 odi YK.

YK in his prime has played clutch innings against India that rizwan can't ever dream of.

YK's problem was that 90% of the time he'd go so slow ans get dismissed that he'd cripple his team with his rubbish 20 of 45 balls.

But if he managed to survive, it would be game over for the opposition.

That's not the case with rizwan who's the bare definition of a bottler but has one outlier sri lanka innings in odi in the same way misbah has one outlier innings vs Australia in 2007.

Doesn't change the fact that these 2 are bottlers.

by this logic rizwan is > Lara as an odi batter cause he averages higher and has a higher sr.

Rizwan just like yk is a 30 avg batter in odi and would have had the sake avg and sr as YK, however YK would be chosen over rizzu for tue sake reason he was chosen over misbah, aka value against certain oppositions like India.
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I am not saying that Rizwan is better than YK in odis because he averages higher.

YK was a very limited Odi cricketer, he has 7 centuries in 265 matches, doesn’t matter what era it is, those are below average numbers.

Also you are talking as if YK played his career in the 90s, in his era (the 2000 decade) pitches used to be flat and 270 scores became frequent.

If you compare YK to his contemporaries, his name won’t even come up in top 25 odi batsman.

Take a look at YK’s record in World cup
18 innings 349 runs at an avg of 21 with just two fifties

Rizwan has outscored him in one world cup with 395 runs at an avg of 65 and str rate 95 with a century and one half century.

One has to be clueless or a hater if he argues that YK > Rizwan in Odis.

No comparison whatsoever.
 
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