A humiliating defeat at home for India

[Chrish]

It’s not really “humiliating” to loose against the team that has played better. Happens from time to time.

I back India to bounce back.

 

[Romali_rotti]

This thread is unfair.

England frequently win Test series in India.

In the time I’ve been watching there has been:

1976-77
1984-85
2012-13

The same England team which lost 3-0 to Pakistan in 2011-12 won 2-1 in India a year later.

It’s just how things are. English batsmen are used to low bounce, and England has produced superior spinners to India throughout history:

Jim Laker is the GOAT off-spinner.
Derek Underwood is the GOAT slow left-armer.

I thought ENG won a series in India in the 90s ? If not, that is a long winless time between 85-2013, wow 28 years. I believe India won 2 tests series in ENG from 87 - 2009 ?

 

[szrana007]

I thought ENG won a series in India in the 90s ? If not, that is a long winless time between 85-2013, wow 28 years. I believe India won 2 tests series in ENG from 87 - 2009 ?

England won a test in India in the 2006 series too which was drawn 1-1. I guess it was England's first test match win in India since their 1984/85 series win in India.

And India did win a test in England in 2002 in a 1-1 drawn series. Also won the series in England 1-0 in 2007. So yeah India won 2 tests in England from 1987-2007. And England won 1 test in India in the same period.

 

[Romali_rotti]

England won a test in India in the 2006 series too which was drawn 1-1. I guess it was England's first test match win in India since their 1984/85 series win in India.

And India did win a test in England in 2002 in a 1-1 drawn series. Also won the series in England 1-0 in 2007. So yeah India won tests in England from 1987-2007. And England won 1 test in India in the same period.

Sorry, but wha'ts the point of your post ? I do recall me and Junaids saying 'series' on our posts.

 

[szrana007]

Sorry, but wha'ts the point of your post ? I do recall me and Junaids saying 'series' on our posts.

India won a series in England in 2007. Before that India won a series in England in 1986. So it took India 21 years to a win a series in England, while it took 28 years for England to win a series in India, when they won in 2012/13 after their previous series win in India in 1984/85.

 

[Giannis]

Sorry, but wha'ts the point of your post ? I do recall me and Junaids saying 'series' on our posts.

England won a test in India in the 2006 series too which was drawn 1-1. I guess it was England's first test match win in India since their 1984/85 series win in India.

And India did win a test in England in 2002 in a 1-1 drawn series. Also won the series in England 1-0 in 2007. So yeah India won tests in England from 1987-2007. And England won 1 test in India in the same period.

If a touring team draws a test series with the home team then it's essentially a loss for the home side, think of it as the away goals rule in football.

 

[Aman]

This is horrible news for us, I can't see us beating England or Aus.

 

[Romali_rotti]

If a touring team draws a test series with the home team then it's essentially a loss for the home side, think of it as the away goals rule in football.

Right so per you India can consider the 1-1 draw in 2006 as a series win...

 

[Giannis]

Right so per you India can consider the 1-1 draw in 2006 as a series win...

Yes

 

[Aman]

Right so per you India can consider the 1-1 draw in 2006 as a series win...

You can blame one loss on a hangover/high, you can't blame it for losing 2-3 Tests.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Yes

Each to their own...

 

[Ozeirk]

It's humiliating because pitch was tailor made to support India. Did anyone see the amount of dust coming off the pitch on the last day? India has made a mockery of home advantage.

 

[The lone Ranger]

It's humiliating because pitch was tailor made to support India. Did anyone see the amount of dust coming off the pitch on the last day? India has made a mockery of home advantage.

You sound like an ignorant and new to cricket. It's a typical chepauk pitch and most of the subcontinent pitch have always been like that. though I myself don't like these kind of pitches but you can't change the characteristics of most of these pitches.

 

[The lone Ranger]

Just because you don't like india doesn't mean you have to undermine the opposition performance to make it look like a humiliating defeat for the home team.
We know that you haven't been yourself since india defeated Australia in Australia last month but you have to live with it. Pretty sure had india won the toss on this pitch, the outcome would have been the other way around and you would have been nowhere to be seen.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I know there are various shades of gray in both camps when it comes to India Pak cricket rivalry

And sure enough, each to its own, as it might give some people a sense of pleasure by such an OP to counter their rivals in the opposition camp, but IMO, not a very sporting OP.

Perhaps a better and more subtle way to hit was to say something like,

“Great start to an exciting series as England humbles India in a crushing defeat.”

India remains a pretty good side even after this supposedly “humiliating” defeat but I guess this OP may backfire and will be bumped up at the end of the series.

 

[Snowflake]

I think the response by the Pakistanis is far more dignified in comparison to the Indians when Pakistan lost to NZ

Those guys are at another level - a level that we should never stoop down to.

 

[Snowflake]

Wouldn't call this a humiliation as the series is still alive and India is fully capable of coming back strongly.

However, it definitely is a head scratcher. How do you come from that once in a lifetime win vs the Aussie to this in such a short span of time? India is a solid team but has a bad habit of dishing out some very poor performances every now and then.

 

[Mobashir]

I don't understand why people are talking about the next three tests and the chances of India to stage a comeback. India can surely comeback and even win the series but that is still an humiliation.

Just like the 36 all out is still an humiliation even tough India won their best series down under.

 

[stevewittry]

Is Pak in line for Test championship or are you referring to next year ? Pak has a good record against Eng regardless

 

[King_Kohli]

Great Humiliation

 

[cricketjoshila]

Another thread to troll India and Indian fans back fires.

 

[Ab Fan]

I don't understand why people are talking about the next three tests and the chances of India to stage a comeback. India can surely comeback and even win the series but that is still an humiliation.

Just like the 36 all out is still an humiliation even tough India won their best series down under.

Lol man, so any team whenever they lose a test match at home ( even if it is one) is a humiliation irrespective of whatever be the end result of that series?

 

[RyanRyan10]

Those guys are at another level - a level that we should never stoop down to.

Yeah

Downplaying our victory in Aus by coming up with posts like Aus home dominance is a myth by filtering stats is your level.

 

[WengerOut]

I would take these humiliations every day if that means India win the series eventually

 

[vprasanna83]

I don't understand why people are talking about the next three tests and the chances of India to stage a comeback. India can surely comeback and even win the series but that is still an humiliation.

Just like the 36 all out is still an humiliation even tough India won their best series down under.

Yea , 74 all out is also a great humiliation. Who cares about a World Cup win after it ? Complete waste

 

[Mamoon]

I don't understand why people are talking about the next three tests and the chances of India to stage a comeback. India can surely comeback and even win the series but that is still an humiliation.

Just like the 36 all out is still an humiliation even tough India won their best series down under.

As William Shakespeare said “All's Well That Ends Well”.

The 36/9 was humiliating at the time, but the way India fought back to win the series with their fringe players completely negated the humiliation.

In hindsight, it made India’s win even more impressive because it showed their strong character and mentality, and how they didn’t let the 36/9 mentally destroy them.

Forget 36 - Pakistan would love to be 6 all out if it means winning a series in Australia. Unfortunately, Pakistan does not have the talent, skill and mental application to win a series in Australia even in dreams.

Remember - the last time Pakistan did not lose a Test match in Australia, Miandad was still playing ODI cricket.

As far as the England series is concerned, you knew India will fight back and win the series but you still had to mock them for the first Test because it was a rare opportunity to take shots at them, which is why you decided to cover both sides.

If India wins the series, you can always say that you already stated that they would win the next 3 Tests; if England win the series, you would rub it in.

There is nothing humiliating about losing to a quality team after losing the toss. The reality is that India completely dominated from that point onwards and are now in the WTC Final.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It's a sign of the team's strength at home that a loss brings out such threads since you can find very little to gloat about Some fans think beating the worst Saffer side at home is enough to gloat about other teams. They should check what happened to South Africa the last time they toured India and SL . Saffers were actually competitive in PAK whereas they were blown to smithereens in India. I'd wait till NZ/OZ/Engand tour Pakistan before talking about humiliations.

 

[AMSS]

The OP has the uncanny knack of keep giving

 

[jnaveen1980]

Epic bump lol

 

[Hitman]

This bump couldn't come at a more appropriate time )

 

[IAJ]

Pakistan is a minnow level team in Tests so this defeat is not as humiliating as people want to make it. India are way ahead in Tests.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

some posters here are pure entertainers ))

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan is a minnow level team in Tests so this defeat is not as humiliating as people want to make it. India are way ahead in Tests.

You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

This comment makes this bump epic lol

 

[Hitman]

You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

This comment makes this bump epic lol

Some people love keeping the doors open for humiliation in the future

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan got epic phainty from England .lol

 

[Sam99]

India would whitewash this overrated england side at home. Timid & poor cricket played by pakistan is reason for this whitewash.

 

[Ab Fan]

So, a home test match loss vs England was enough to create a thread of humiliating defeat for India.

What do we say for a home test series whitewash then? Is that not humiliating enough?

 

[atreus]

I do feel like we are slowly approaching the end of India's utter untouchability at home , but when they lose their streak it def won't be a whitewash lol

 

[Rajdeep]

A single test loss at home made OP to create this thread calling it a humiliation for India. Wonder what he will say now after 3-0 whitewash, lol.

 

[Mamoon]

If Pakistan lost a home test against this english team and that too in that fashion, I will be completely ashamed.

I mean, this England team is very very weak in every department of the game. You can't loose a test in Asia to Dominic Bess-Jack Leach, read the names again. This is probably the worst spin bowling pair of the decade to tour an asian country.

Then you have a top order of : Burns, Sibley, Lawrence. I really like English cricket but sorry, this is not a top order to play test cricket in Asia. Again, it's hand down the worst top three sent by any SENA team over the last decade.

No need to even talk about Archer and Pope playing their first asian test, Buttler not being good against spin, Stokes playing competitive cricket after 6 months etc...

That is the most humiliating home defeat of recent times.

Well done team India,
Thanks again.

Losing a Test at home to such a team was bad enough, but what do you think about getting whitewashed at a home by a team that has the following:

Leach, Jack & a debutant as spinners, a makeshift opener, a young middle-order batsman playing only his second series, Pope keeping for two Tests who barely qualifies as a part-time WK, a 40 year old James Anderson & Joe Root in bad form.

When India lost a Test, they lost with poor batsman like Kohli, Rohit, Pujara, Gill & a poor WK like Pant.

Pakistan got whitewashed while boasting the best batsman in the world Babar, the best WK in the world Rizwan, the best young opener in the world (Shafique) who is better than Gill, the best young fast bowler in the world (Naseem) who played the first Test.

In spite of having so many best this & best that, Pakistan got whitewashed 3-0. If India losing a Test with such poor players was humiliating, what word would you use for Pakistan getting whitewashed with such great players?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It's a sign of the team's strength at home that a loss brings out such threads since you can find very little to gloat about Some fans think beating the worst Saffer side at home is enough to gloat about other teams. They should check what happened to South Africa the last time they toured India and SL . Saffers were actually competitive in PAK whereas they were blown to smithereens in India. I'd wait till NZ/OZ/Engand tour Pakistan before talking about humiliations.

I did say wait till OZ/ENG/NZ tour before taking potshots at other teams.

 

[Mamoon]

Yeah there are many more humiliations in history by every team, including Pakistan.
But in recent years, were the home advantage has grown, can't remember anything worst than this.

You only had to wait for 22 months to witness the most humiliating home thrashing ever.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Well the asterisk is not a thing to joke about, some fellow posters get very serious about it. It deserves a thread and debate on it's own.


But really, a home team being outplayed in this fashion against a weak opposition is humiliating.

Humiliation is a small word

India won the series after losing the first test.

Men in Green were whitewashed in a home.

 

[Romali_rotti]

When India lost a Test, they lost with poor batsman like Kohli, Rohit, Pujara, Gill & a poor WK like Pant.

Pakistan got whitewashed while boasting the best batsman in the world Babar, the best WK in the world Rizwan, the best young opener in the world (Shafique) who is better than Gill, the best young fast bowler in the world (Naseem) who played the first Test.

Ouch, that's a bit harsh Mamms...

LOL Mobashir is a blind homer but you don't need to destroy him like this...

 

[James]

Cruel bump…

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Babar shouldn't captain Pakistan. He should learn from Sachin and give up captaincy. It is not his cup of tea. Rameez should go back to his youtube channel. Losses like these are good enough to shake the whole system and bring new faces into the team and most importantly the support staff.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Now only two Asian sides have lost four or more consecutive Tests at home. Bangladesh has done it on six separate occasions, including a 13 straight Test losses at home from 2001-2004, while for Pakistan, it is for the first time in their cricketing history!

#ENGvsPAK

 

[Rajdeep]

I am bit worried about the retribution now. Indian posters had enough fun today in this thread but it may backfire soon. If Australia somehow inflict the home defeat to us next month, OP would go no holds barred here

 

[MenInG]

Post proper views or dont post on this thread.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I am bit worried about the retribution now. Indian posters had enough fun today in this thread but it may backfire soon. If Australia somehow inflict the home defeat to us next month, OP would go no holds barred here

India's dynamics have changed since Kohli left as captain. KOhli deserved to be dropped as a player. But as a Test captain he is far more aggressive than this meek KL Rahul, always absent Rohit sharma. Until india finds a decent captain they will not dominate the way they used to.

 

[Ab Fan]

In Test cricket, Pakistan has a long way to go. They are simply not in the league of SENAI teams.

 

[Champ_Pal]

England beat Pakistan without Adil Radhid and Moeen Ali. That is some achievement.

Pakistan have become terrible players of spin in Test cricket.

 

[dildilpak]

India's dynamics have changed since Kohli left as captain. KOhli deserved to be dropped as a player. But as a Test captain he is far more aggressive than this meek KL Rahul, always absent Rohit sharma. Until india finds a decent captain they will not dominate the way they used to.

Rohit Sharma has absolutely no credibility to be a test player, let alone a test captain. Wonder on what basis they made him the captain of the test team.

KL Rahul is mentally not there. Maybe you guys should consider a new captain like Bumrah or Pant.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

A single test loss at home made OP to create this thread calling it a humiliation for India. Wonder what he will say now after 3-0 whitewash, lol.

Pakistan has suffered one of the biggest humiliation in cricket history.

No doubts about it and you won't find many Pakistanis pretending otherwise.

 

[dravidthewall]

Now what OP has to say here..Will he agree that this one is most humilated series loss?

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Rohit Sharma has absolutely no credibility to be a test player, let alone a test captain. Wonder on what basis they made him the captain of the test team.

KL Rahul is mentally not there. Maybe you guys should consider a new captain like Bumrah or Pant.

They made him captain on account of Mumbai Lobby quota. Azhar Ali is three times better than him in test format.

Bumrah can't handle. May be Pant can.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rohit Sharma has absolutely no credibility to be a test player, let alone a test captain. Wonder on what basis they made him the captain of the test team.

KL Rahul is mentally not there. Maybe you guys should consider a new captain like Bumrah or Pant.

It fell in his lap because they didn't want separate captain for separate formats. Coincidentally he was the most inform batsman (only relatively) for India. But he missed 50% of the Tests due to injury, sickness. He hardly had a successful career in Tests. He does not deserve to be a Test captain one bit. Bumrah is way too inexperienced to be a captain. Never captained any team. Pant was under-19 captain who took his side to final, became captain of Delhi team. Regardless of his flaws he is the only guy who is likely to play all the matches. He needs a run. May not click him right away. But needs a run. Captain plays a very very crucial role in extracting the best out of the side.

 

[dildilpak]

It fell in his lap because they didn't want separate captain for separate formats. Coincidentally he was the most inform batsman (only relatively) for India. But he missed 50% of the Tests due to injury, sickness. He hardly had a successful career in Tests. He does not deserve to be a Test captain one bit. Bumrah is way too inexperienced to be a captain. Never captained any team. Pant was under-19 captain who took his side to final, became captain of Delhi team. Regardless of his flaws he is the only guy who is likely to play all the matches. He needs a run. May not click him right away. But needs a run. Captain plays a very very crucial role in extracting the best out of the side.

In-form batsman? Has anybody in BCCI even looked at Rohit’s test record or has their hatred for Kohli blinded them to mediocrity? Now that Ganguly is out of the picture, can’t they bring Kohli back? Nobody can drop Kohli, so might as well make use of his captaincy, non?

And Indians should be the last people commenting on Babar’s captaincy- atleast we have a captain who is a premier batsman. Rohit/Rahul are two of the most non-deserving captains in world cricket right now.

 

[WengerOut]

In-form batsman? Has anybody in BCCI even looked at Rohit’s test record or has their hatred for Kohli blinded them to mediocrity? Now that Ganguly is out of the picture, can’t they bring Kohli back? Nobody can drop Kohli, so might as well make use of his captaincy, non?

And Indians should be the last people commenting on Babar’s captaincy- atleast we have a captain who is a premier batsman. Rohit/Rahul are two of the most non-deserving captains in world cricket right now.

He was the top scorer in England for India. His innings on a turner against England in India started the fightback in the series. He has as much credibility as any other Indian test player recently.

 

[dildilpak]

He was the top scorer in England for India. His innings on a turner against England in India started the fightback in the series. He has as much credibility as any other Indian test player recently.

So you select a captain basis performance in one series, ignoring his record of years & years of non-performance? Then we might as well make Abrar Ahmed captain of Pakistan team considering his performance against England!

 

[WengerOut]

So you select a captain basis performance in one series, ignoring his record of years & years of non-performance? Then we might as well make Abrar Ahmed captain of Pakistan team considering his performance against England!

I was answering your claim that he has no credibility as a "test player ". Last 3 years, he has been the best test player for India. Only problem is his injury issues and hence the availability. Past non performances are a non issue when he is performing currently. He has good multiple series ( not one ).

 

[jnaveen1980]

In-form batsman? Has anybody in BCCI even looked at Rohit’s test record or has their hatred for Kohli blinded them to mediocrity? Now that Ganguly is out of the picture, can’t they bring Kohli back? Nobody can drop Kohli, so might as well make use of his captaincy, non?

And Indians should be the last people commenting on Babar’s captaincy- atleast we have a captain who is a premier batsman. Rohit/Rahul are two of the most non-deserving captains in world cricket right now.

Rohit was a favored to be ODI/T20 captain. With current form of his they made him Test captain also. BCCI mostly prefers same captain for all the formats. Bumrah/Pant/Ashwin/Jadeja are other options. Jadeja chickened out even in IPL. Ashwin is not selected in all the overseas matches. So that rules him out. Bumrah as a pace bowler is not ideal as he can pick up injury, miss a lot of time on the field. That leaves us with Pant. Eventually he will become the captain. If Shreyas Iyer fixes his technical issues and delivers consistently he is another potential candidate. Rohit is 35. Not exactly a fit guy. Rohit is likely to be a stop gap captain at best. But problem is he misses a lot of matches. India's transition period has already begun. So you could see a dip in India's performances for a period

 

[dildilpak]

I was answering your claim that he has no credibility as a "test player ". Last 3 years, he has been the best test player for India. Only problem is his injury issues and hence the availability. Past non performances are a non issue when he is performing currently. He has good multiple series ( not one ).

Err, which multiple series are these?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Australian Women T20 team beat Indian women team by 4-0 in India yesterday. 1 match was tied.

Can Australian men test team surprise Indian men team this time?

 

[WengerOut]

Err, which multiple series are these?

England ( home and away ), SA at home.

 

[Msd_7]

India lost 4 tests in last 50 home matches, Pakistan lost 4 in 4 home matches

 

[Mamoon]

Err, which multiple series are these?

Rohit Sharma averages 55 in Tests in the last 3 years ever since he was promoted as opener. He is not comfortable batting in the middle-order regardless of the format.

He turned his Test career around after opening just like he turned his white ball career around in 2013.

He is one of the best openers ever. India missed a huge trick by not opening with him in Test cricket earlier, especially after he had already established himself as a world class white ball opener.

Rohit should have been India’s main Test opener 2015 onwards. He would have eclipsed Sehwag. It is easily the biggest blunder Kohli made as captain.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

the hatred for rohit sharma amongst the indian knee jerk reaction fans is unreal.
if you want to blame, blame for the right reasons at least. blame him for poor fitness from the last 3 years, blame him for not delivering in the knockout games. but, questioning the captaincy choice and asking what has he done in tests is not correct.
people forgot he played extremely well in england. and he is one of our best batters at home. you need a couple of home bashers to main extraordinary home record. and he might play well in overseas too, like in england.

i hope he plays BGT and smashes runs left, right and centre...and shuts some of our overaction & whining fans.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Err, which multiple series are these?

His only achievement in 10 years of career is 2021 England tour where he scored 368 runs.
He is proper home track bully.
Average:
Home: 73
Away: 30

Grand total of Away Hundreds =1

 

[RyanRyan10]

In-form batsman? Has anybody in BCCI even looked at Rohit’s test record or has their hatred for Kohli blinded them to mediocrity? Now that Ganguly is out of the picture, can’t they bring Kohli back? Nobody can drop Kohli, so might as well make use of his captaincy, non?

And Indians should be the last people commenting on Babar’s captaincy- atleast we have a captain who is a premier batsman. Rohit/Rahul are two of the most non-deserving captains in world cricket right now.

If Pakistan had an opener with an outstanding home record like him then they would have not been losing left, right and centre at home.

 

[Majestic]

Rohit's form is not a concern, his fitness is. Hence, persisting him as captain is not really a great choice.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If Pakistan had an opener with an outstanding home record like him then they would have not been losing left, right and centre at home.

And how many tests have Pakistan played at home in the last 5 years?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

And how many tests have Pakistan played at home in the last 5 years?

How does that matter when it comes to losing tests like this? Many argued that PAK would do better in Pakistan rather than in the UAE

That has clearly not been the case.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

How does that matter when it comes to losing tests like this? Many argued that PAK would do better in Pakistan rather than in the UAE

That has clearly not been the case.

That is why I am asking how many tests Pakistan have played at home as compared to UAE?

 

[shamaan]

If Pakistan had an opener with an outstanding home record like him then they would have not been losing left, right and centre at home.

Imaam ul haq averages 66 at home only played the 5 games.
Abdullah averages 55 after 6 tests at home.

Pakistan are not losing becouse of the openers they are losing becouse of the bowlers and lower middle order.

 

[dildilpak]

Imaam ul haq averages 66 at home only played the 5 games.
Abdullah averages 55 after 6 tests at home.

Pakistan are not losing becouse of the openers they are losing becouse of the bowlers and lower middle order.

I agree, Pakistan has the best opening averages in Tests, India is way near the bottom.

Rohit Sharma is one of the most overhyped test players - his overseas record except for that one England series is terrible & till recently was not even a permanent member of the test team. Not to mention his terrible fitness - he probably can’t last through a 5 match test series. Clearly over the hill in all formats of the game.

 

[dravidthewall]

Rohit's form is not a concern, his fitness is. Hence, persisting him as captain is not really a great choice.

Since when he played test i don't remember.Got COVID in on off test against England. Injured thumb against Bangladesh. He is injured everytime before test series. India should groom someone as captain but not Rahul.

 

[Majestic]

Since when he played test i don't remember.Got COVID in on off test against England. Injured thumb against Bangladesh. He is injured everytime before test series. India should groom someone as captain but not Rahul.

He got injured in
1. South Africa tests ( KL and Mayank opened)
2. England 5th test ( Gill and someone else opened)
3. BD tests( KL and Gill)
4. NZ home tests last year( Gill and Mayank opened)

So, he played test series in England last where he got hundred in Oval and was best Indian batsman in that series.

 

[shamaan]

I agree, Pakistan has the best opening averages in Tests, India is way near the bottom.

Rohit Sharma is one of the most overhyped test players - his overseas record except for that one England series is terrible & till recently was not even a permanent member of the test team. Not to mention his terrible fitness - he probably can’t last through a 5 match test series. Clearly over the hill in all formats of the game.

They need to look and think before they write.Rohit is not an inexperienced and doesn't have time on his side so he should be averaging 50+ in every series.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Appointing HP as a T20 Captain is good move.
But as a ODI captain would be a bad move. The guy isn’t even playing the format and not fit enough to play all games.
Surely, you’d want a captain who is there for the majority of games? He didn’t even bowl in the NZ series