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Ajmal Kasab hanged

So people are saying that the Indian agencies planned this operation head to toe, and wait for it...the loose end they left behind is a video of his confession where he says Bhagwan. And they even released it to the public. Only happens on PP. Oh the world of denial.
 
RWAC said:
So people are saying that the Indian agencies planned this operation head to toe, and wait for it...the loose end they left behind is a video of his confession where he says Bhagwan. And they even released it to the public. Only happens on PP. Oh the world of denial.
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i suspect bccis involvement
 
shan said:
Where did you get all those theories? Trained to be Hindus? hahahahaha

Any other excuse? They were stupid enough to believe people wont notice accent and Baghwan thing.
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So US Italy Saudi your own govt and security agencies all are lying?Only you few PPers and Zaid Hamid knows the truth.Anyways doesnt matter,the whole world including your govt. has accepted that he is Pakistani
 
kasab was hanged ..feeling so good abt it,but only one regret that it has taken 4 years .next in line afzal 'Guru'
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Agreed. Dont see the point in celebrating loss of a human life. Sick attitude to be honest. Ashamed of having such monkeys in our country.
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i think you should be ashamed for all the 202 countries around the world.because majority in each country is for death sentence for terrorists
 
delhi_dude said:
i think you should be ashamed for all the 202 countries around the world.because majority in each country is for death sentence for terrorists
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Thanks, feels good to be a better man than most in 202 countries in the world.
 
shan said:
Where did you get all those theories? Trained to be Hindus? hahahahaha

Any other excuse? They were stupid enough to believe people wont notice accent and Baghwan thing.
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Laughing at the death of innocent people shows what kind of person you are. Anyways :-

1) Your goverment admitted trainings happened in Pakistan. You have absolutely no reply to this

2) Kasab confessed to the happenings and explained his training in details

http://www.urdutahzeeb.net/current-affairs/news/jundal-taught-hindi-to

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/a...l-identifies-the-alleged-26-11-handler-253186

3) Based on Kasab's confession, Saudi Arabia deported Jundal to India. The same guy who trained Kasab in all these things. Yep, the evidence was good enough for Saudi Arabia to deport a person to India for the first ever time.

Namak_Halaal said:
This is the moment when one asks for evidence, but only to be answered with silence.

It's a nice story, for a movies perhaps, but it's fantasy at best.
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The funniest thing about conspiracy theorists is that they will ask for all the evidence in the world but their own theories are the ones most full of holes. Questions to you

1) Why will Pakistan (the nuclear armed, strong defender of Islam) bow down to India and accept that Kasab was a Pak citizens and he was trained in Pak? Officials investigating the case also have admitted this in a court of law

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/2611-accused-trained-in-let-camps-in-karachi-pak-officials/1030271

2) Why would independent countries like Saudi Arabia deport someone to India for the first time based on this evidence? Jundal was deported based on India's evidence based on Kasab's testimony? Saudi and Pak always had good relationship and they have never deported someone before

3) US and many countries have arrested their own citizens based on India's evidence for funding money for 26/11. Explain why?

4) The rest of the world completely believe and accept the evidence. Why?
 
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Everyone and each one can post in this thread now........

Because tomorrow we will have to close this thread to avoid hatred and personal attacks....You guys are not going to stop your garbage unless this thread gets closed...
 
The reason that continue to suffer these attacks- is Kashmir. Like it or not.

Come to the negotiating table with Pakistan and Kashmiris. Then decide about how the valley can be removed from India. It requires discussion over whether independence or merger with Pakistan is needed.
 
^ So you are agreeing to using terrorism to put pressure on India regarding Kashmir?
 
attacks will never stop whether kashmir issue is solved or not..there is no peace going to happen..vultures will never let them happen..
 
Wasim_Waqar said:
The reason that continue to suffer these attacks- is Kashmir. Like it or not.

Come to the negotiating table with Pakistan and Kashmiris. Then decide about how the valley can be removed from India. It requires discussion over whether independence or merger with Pakistan is needed.
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TBH,iam really disappointed about attacks happening against innocent people in multicultural city karachi.please tell me kashmiri issue has anything to do with these attacks
 
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Indiafan said:
Laughing at the death of innocent people shows what kind of person you are. Anyways :-

1) Your goverment admitted trainings happened in Pakistan. You have absolutely no reply to this

2) Kasab confessed to the happenings and explained his training in details

http://www.urdutahzeeb.net/current-affairs/news/jundal-taught-hindi-to

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/a...l-identifies-the-alleged-26-11-handler-253186

3) Based on Kasab's confession, Saudi Arabia deported Jundal to India. The same guy who trained Kasab in all these things. Yep, the evidence was good enough for Saudi Arabia to deport a person to India for the first ever time.



The funniest thing about conspiracy theorists is that they will ask for all the evidence in the world but their own theories are the ones most full of holes. Questions to you

1) Why will Pakistan (the nuclear armed, strong defender of Islam) bow down to India and accept that Kasab was a Pak citizens and he was trained in Pak? Officials investigating the case also have admitted this in a court of law

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/2611-accused-trained-in-let-camps-in-karachi-pak-officials/1030271

2) Why would independent countries like Saudi Arabia deport someone to India for the first time based on this evidence? Jundal was deported based on India's evidence based on Kasab's testimony? Saudi and Pak always had good relationship and they have never deported someone before

3) US and many countries have arrested their own citizens based on India's evidence for funding money for 26/11. Explain why?

4) The rest of the world completely believe and accept the evidence. Why?
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Blag - where was I laughing?

I was refering to evidence supporting your claim that AK was trained to be a Hindu; not trained to be a terrorist.

Where is it?

Making false claims shows what kind of a person you are.
 
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this talk of having peace if kashmir is solved is false promise...there will never be peace between india and pakistan...yes as a price some innocents will die from time to time..someday it will be my turn..hope i get a famous death
 
GentleMan said:
this talk of having peace if kashmir is solved is false promise...there will never be peace between india and pakistan...yes as a price some innocents will die from time to time..someday it will be my turn..hope i get a famous death
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yes innocents will get killed as long as SC will have poor people who can easily be brainwashed by offering some money
 
Kashmir issue has everything to do with it .......Ok Indians do not accept.......

But give me another reason....?
 
Ambi said:
yes innocents will get killed as long as SC will have poor people who can easily be brainwashed by offering some money
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anyway we are on earth for a short time..there is no guarantee how long we will live..so i accept deaths as something that we have no control on..the way animals live in a jungle..they enjoy..procreate..have fun..and some day get eaten by a prey...so enjoy your life as much as you can..because no one is going to stay here forever.. kashmir or no kashmir
 
Ambi said:
yes innocents will get killed as long as SC will have poor people who can easily be brainwashed by offering some money
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It is beyond my senses that how money and brainwashing are linked.....Either you do it because you have been brainwashed or you want money.......
Do not know what you have posted in your previous 3500 posts...

How can they be brainwashed?On what grounds they brainwash them?
 
waqar goraya said:
It is beyond my senses that how money and brainwashing are linked.....Either you do it because you have been brainwashed or you want money.......
Do not know what you have posted in your previous 3500 posts...

How can they be brainwashed?On what grounds they brainwash them?
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its very easy to brainwash poor people with limited education and exposure to the world
 
I was surprised by this as india normally wait for person to die natural death in prison...

i can mention several examples who are waiting for execution for years....

i do not recall last person hanged in india before kasab....
 
Black Zero said:
I was surprised by this as india normally wait for person to die natural death in prison...

i can mention several examples who are waiting for execution for years....

i do not recall last person hanged in india before kasab....
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i think it was 2004..when a lift operator was hanged for killing a 6 year old and dishonouring her dead body...and before that it was in 1990s when a young guy was hanged for killing his mother with a cricket bat..
 
Black Zero said:
I was surprised by this as india normally wait for person to die natural death in prison...

i can mention several examples who are waiting for execution for years....

i do not recall last person hanged in india before kasab....
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there are few ones,special court was setup for dealing this case thats why things happened so quickly.If you look at others cases,it will take minimum three years to punish the culprit if he applied for a mercy petition
 
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GentleMan said:
i think it was 2004..when a lift operator was hanged for killing a 6 year old and dishonouring her dead body...and before that it was in 1990s when a young guy was hanged for killing his mother with a cricket bat..
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he must be a :sidhu fan ...
 
waqar goraya said:
Right ,you need young immature or novice minds to brainwash....

But you need some reason to brainwash..........
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poor people can be easily brainwashed by offering some monitory benefits .Politicians of sc are the biggest example
 
freelance_cricketer said:
^ So you are agreeing to using terrorism to put pressure on India regarding Kashmir?
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No. I do not advocate any sense of violence to solve the problem.

Mumbai in 2008 was very sad.

I am saying that people will continue to not allow India to live peacefully as the number of Kashmiris massacred by India continues on a daily basis.
 
Wasim_Waqar said:
No. I do not advocate any sense of violence to solve the problem.

Mumbai in 2008 was very sad.

I am saying that people will continue to not allow India to live peacefully as the number of Kashmiris massacred by India continues on a daily basis.
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I understand this feeling but does it give any justification to Pakistan to not take any action against such elements operating within their territory?
 
Black Zero said:
should Pakistan follow the suit .. and hang surbjit ?
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I guess you shouldn't do that, just for the sake of his family members (more importantly his wife and daughters) who have worked tirelessly to gather support for him. Unlike Kasab, Sarabhjit has not been disowned by his motherland and family. I didn't want death for Kasab either and had posted in his favour right here earlier.

Sarabhjit's execution now will only bring enormous pain to his wife and daughters after having seen little hope of his release.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
I understand this feeling but does it give any justification to Pakistan to not take any action against such elements operating within their territory?
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I have Kashmiri blood in me. So I think of the Kashmiri people suffering as opposed to a t.t-for-tat approach regarding Pakistan, which Indians so dearly seem to love.

I'm not going to go history too much but Alistair Lamb said that India's claim is highly disputed.

As long as the Indian government has AFSPA, hundreds of thousands of troops in the valley and continues to commit massacres like Aasiya and Neelofar, Wamiq and Tufail....Indians will suffer from these attacks.

If only the Indians knew that the people they lose (one life is too many btw irrespective of the nationality or race or religion etc) to these attacks barely measures to the number India's government have killed (and continue to kill) since 1989.
 
Black Zero said:
should Pakistan follow the suit .. and hang surbjit ?
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A terrorist is a terrorist.

Kasab got what he deserved, Sarbajit should as well. Every other terrorist out there being held in custody should get the same treatment as well so no other person will ever dare commit these sorts of acts again.

What these terrorists did is horrendous, and it would be a great injustice to the family members of the deceased, if these terrorists are not hanged.
 
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Wasim_Waqar said:
I have Kashmiri blood in me. So I think of the Kashmiri people suffering as opposed to a t.t-for-tat approach regarding Pakistan, which Indians so dearly seem to love.

I'm not going to go history too much but Alistair Lamb said that India's claim is highly disputed.

As long as the Indian government has AFSPA, hundreds of thousands of troops in the valley and continues to commit massacres like Aasiya and Neelofar, Wamiq and Tufail....Indians will suffer from these attacks.

If only the Indians knew that the people they lose (one life is too many btw irrespective of the nationality or race or religion etc) to these attacks barely measures to the number India's government have killed (and continue to kill) since 1989.
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Everything else i understand but just this comment that i have underlined. Again, by saying that we will continue to suffer from such attacks you are supporting such attacks. Remember one thing, whatever is happening in Kashmir from India is being done by our army and they have the support of Indians. Such is the cruel world we live in. All this happens and is going on. I do not deny it. It is a matter of shame and i wish things were different.

The bomb blasts that occur within India however are being done by organizations from which Pak army distances itself. That is the issue from our side, that Pak has continuously used such tactics to bring India down. Take the battle to the borders if you're truly emotional about the 'crimes' being committed by our 'army'. But you obviously become promoters of terrorism in the eyes of international community if you grant permission to third party organizations to fight your battle.

I am not a war monger and want a peaceful solution to Kashmir issue, have posted my suggestions in earlier threads. I also want Pak to clean its act and be free of the terrorism allegations. Will only benefit your own nation's international image.
 
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interesting thing is that Pawn(s) being sacrificed ...

while real criminals are safe and sound in castles..
 
Wasim_Waqar said:
I have Kashmiri blood in me. So I think of the Kashmiri people suffering as opposed to a t.t-for-tat approach regarding Pakistan, which Indians so dearly seem to love.

I'm not going to go history too much but Alistair Lamb said that India's claim is highly disputed.

As long as the Indian government has AFSPA, hundreds of thousands of troops in the valley and continues to commit massacres like Aasiya and Neelofar, Wamiq and Tufail....Indians will suffer from these attacks.

If only the Indians knew that the people they lose (one life is too many btw irrespective of the nationality or race or religion etc) to these attacks barely measures to the number India's government have killed (and continue to kill) since 1989.
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You might have kashmiri blood but you are far away from the realities of kashmir today. Kashmir people first of all want peace and a right to live and they are willing to be peaceful for it. But of course a certain nation will never want that peace and will keep on sending terrorists to it

If you were a true kashmiri, you would relaise how much terrorism in kashmir and the shops getting closed affects the life of Kashmiris daily. Yet you support a nation doing that. The day terrorism stops in Kashmir, the army will also withdraw, yet you dont seem to want that. Strange.

Its a chicken and egg situation. Army wont withdraw till terrorists are there. So shouldnt you first want the terrorism to stop? but stragely you dont seem to. I think I understand why. You must be living in a safe far off place where your sentiments and pride are more important to you. You want to see a free kashmir without playing any part in the freedom movement and not suffering for it. Kashmiris in Kashmir want nothing more than peace at the moment and to live peacefully like you

And your thinking is extremely naive that terrorism against India is because of Kashmir. Its not. Tomorrow the same terrorists and their backers will want Punjab then Rajasthan and then rest of the country to be divided. But thats never going to happen. Dont try linking the Kashmir issue with terrorism. Kashmiris are just being used as a pawn by terrorist and if any true kashmiri believes that terrorists are fighting for their cause, they are deluded
 
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Pak should hand over any perpetrators IND want after IND hands over the 700,000+ murderers, rapists involved in the occupation of Kashmir.....simples
 
LethalSami said:
Pak should hand over any perpetrators IND want after IND hands over the 700,000+ murderers, rapists involved in the occupation of Kashmir.....simples
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So you agree that Pak govt knows their whereabouts in Pakistan and are perfectly capable of capturing and putting them on trial, handing over to India? But just not doing so as you believe you should protect them just like how India is protecting it's army?
 
freelance_cricketer said:
So you agree that Pak govt knows their whereabouts in Pakistan and are perfectly capable of capturing and putting them on trial, handing over to India? But just not doing so as you believe you should protect them just like how India is protecting it's army?
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none of that is mentioned in my post, not sure how you made that out from from post :moyo

and i've read that Pak courts had a case against 7-8 people (they were named by Kasab), since the accuser (and alleged partner) have now been hanged./...that case have been dismissed...

and i'm pretty sure that any gov't can get any person in their controlled country, if they really wanted to :zardari
 
LethalSami said:
none of that is mentioned in my post, not sure how you made that out from from post :moyo

and i've read that Pak courts had a case against 7-8 people (they were named by Kasab), since the accuser (and alleged partner) have now been hanged./...that case have been dismissed...

and i'm pretty sure that any gov't can get any person in their controlled country, if they really wanted to :zardari
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That's the key point, even someone like OBL wasn't handed over to a superpower like USA. India has slim chance of getting Dawood and Hafiz Saeed considering we haven't even established ourselves as a regional power. Pakistan unfortunately has established a good name for itself in providing safe heaven to OBL, Dawood like shaddy characters. Do you think this has been in the interest of your country and people? 7,00,00O or 7 X 10*10 criminals you talked about are Indian army men. They are never going to be put in any one's wanted list. Good luck with your demands, not even your government has ever said anything like that. At least know your own national policies. :danish
 
was there EVIDENCE that was presented to Pak regarding OBL?? NO

the way US assassinated OBL hints that US didn't have the evidence to put OBL on trail for 9/11

and you're just making a lots of assumptions!! just b/c ISI couldn't find OBL, doesn't mean they were hiding him.........all other intelligence agencies with bigger resources couldn't get him for a decade+, does this mean they were all harboring/hiding him too??? NO

again, if you don't present any actionable evidence, then the Pak authorities can't do anything!

:zardari ("itshh a democrassssshy, democrassssshy is the bessssht revenge)

has there been any arrests made in Indian Occupation Forces regarding their crimes in Occupied Kashmir?? NO
 
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democracy is best revenge is used by the elite whose power was taken away because of democracy...usually the feudals and landlords of old era..and the kings who didnt have to be answerable and accountable regret living in a democracy... democracy is the golden age (relatively) for the downtrodden..they never had it so good earlier
 
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democracy is best revenge is used by the elite whose power was taken away because of democracy...usually the feudals and landlords of old era..and the kings who didnt have to be answerable and accountable regret living in a democracy... democracy is the golden age (relatively) for the downtrodden..they never had it so good earlier
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that why i just used :zardari avatar......and that statement is by HIM
 
LethalSami said:
Pak should hand over any perpetrators IND want after IND hands over the 700,000+ murderers, rapists involved in the occupation of Kashmir.....simples
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LOL.. Its statement like these that actually go against your argument being considered seriously.

LOL again, at all the people claiming that Kashmir is real reason for the regular terrorist attacks on India and inside India. There are few very distinct reasons for these attacks.

1. Unless India becomes a Super power it cant defend its borders effectively
and is prone to systematic infiltration from Pakistani side. The day india will be able to protect its borders and have a say in global arena, attacks and intensity of attack both will drop significantly.
2. India has democracy and as a result within the tenets of democratic principles its difficult to crush any such acts... But Indian seriously believe that democracy has a cost, one day point 1 will prevail.
3. As a Indian, I belive that Lohori/ex-Delhi Muslim elites envisioned that them Lahori/Punjabi Muslims (their kins and friends) are better off with a separate Pakistan and slave Bengal and without the baggage of rest of Hindus and others. Instead of accepting the mistakes of the past their descendents are doing a face saving excercise by blaming India for all their woes and justifying cowrdly attacks against us.
 
LethalSami said:
was there EVIDENCE that was presented to Pak regarding OBL?? NO

the way US assassinated OBL hints that US didn't have the evidence to put OBL on trail for 9/11

and you're just making a lots of assumptions!! just b/c ISI couldn't find OBL, doesn't mean they were hiding him.........all other intelligence agencies with bigger resources couldn't get him for a decade+, does this mean they were all harboring/hiding him too??? NO

again, if you don't present any actionable evidence, then the Pak authorities can't do anything!

:zardari ("itshh a democrassssshy, democrassssshy is the bessssht revenge)

has there been any arrests made in Indian Occupation Forces regarding their crimes in Occupied Kashmir?? NO
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Do you even understand what you say yourself? :facepalm:
 
Lets make this easy for people who are hell bent upon taking this thread everywhere

Facts:


Ajmal Kassab killed people
Ajmal Kassab was punished
Ajmal Kassab was a Pakistani National


This man was a criminal.Deal with it
 
I was reading Urdu newspaper I think it was Daily Ummat wherein it was reported that Kasab was already dead because of Dengue Fever and to hide it from public they made this execution drama :yk
 
MenInG said:
Lets make this easy for people who are hell bent upon taking this thread everywhere

Facts:


Ajmal Kassab killed people
Ajmal Kassab was punished
Ajmal Kassab was a Pakistani National


This man was a criminal.Deal with it
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top post . He was a terrorist & was hanged after due judicial process .
 
Jeetu111 said:
top post . He was a terrorist & was hanged after due judicial process .
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One man's terrorist is another man's hero - so lets not go labelling here.

He murdered 160+ people (or many of them) - he was found guilty of their murder and was hanged after due process.

Let it rest there. He is now with his Maker.

What he did in Mumbai has no bearing or comparison with other atrocities around the world done by other people - you cannot compare crimes to make one better than another. They are all crimes.
 
MenInG said:
One man's terrorist is another man's hero - so lets not go labelling here.

He murdered 160+ people (or many of them) - he was found guilty of their murder and was hanged after due process.

Let it rest there. He is now with his Maker.

What he did in Mumbai has no bearing or comparison with other atrocities around the world done by other people - you cannot compare crimes to make one better than another. They are all crimes.
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come on buddy, i am not labeling just like that . There is overwhelming evidence of this guy firing a ak47 in streets of Mumbai . What do i call him please tell me ?
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Everything else i understand but just this comment that i have underlined. Again, by saying that we will continue to suffer from such attacks you are supporting such attacks. Remember one thing, whatever is happening in Kashmir from India is being done by our army and they have the support of Indians. Such is the cruel world we live in. All this happens and is going on. I do not deny it. It is a matter of shame and i wish things were different.

The bomb blasts that occur within India however are being done by organizations from which Pak army distances itself. That is the issue from our side, that Pak has continuously used such tactics to bring India down. Take the battle to the borders if you're truly emotional about the 'crimes' being committed by our 'army'. But you obviously become promoters of terrorism in the eyes of international community if you grant permission to third party organizations to fight your battle.

I am not a war monger and want a peaceful solution to Kashmir issue, have posted my suggestions in earlier threads. I also want Pak to clean its act and be free of the terrorism allegations. Will only benefit your own nation's international image.
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Very very strange.

I have not once supported killing of innocent people!

I have been to India and like the country and the people. Love it infact to the point I will go again no doubt.

It is common sense: if India's army keep doing what they do- standing on our streets in Srinagar and raping and killing and leaving mass graves and have AFSPA...then number one the Kashmiri youth will continue to rebel and (ii) irrespective of how does it, it is likely that people will strike again ala Mumbai. Therefore it shouldn't be a shock to the system when it happens (that does NOT equate to me supporting these attacks in any way or form. I think it is wrong for these things to occur. So please refrain from making grand statements like "You support the attacks.")

My friend has just returned from Srinagar. He was there for 12months. He was jailed and tortured. He can't even sleep at night. 12 of his friends were killed by the army during his time there.

He says there are 1.2 million as opposed to the 800,000 troops document in the valley.

Indiafan said:
You might have kashmiri blood but you are far away from the realities of kashmir today. Kashmir people first of all want peace and a right to live and they are willing to be peaceful for it. But of course a certain nation will never want that peace and will keep on sending terrorists to it

If you were a true kashmiri, you would relaise how much terrorism in kashmir and the shops getting closed affects the life of Kashmiris daily. Yet you support a nation doing that. The day terrorism stops in Kashmir, the army will also withdraw, yet you dont seem to want that. Strange.

Its a chicken and egg situation. Army wont withdraw till terrorists are there. So shouldnt you first want the terrorism to stop? but stragely you dont seem to. I think I understand why. You must be living in a safe far off place where your sentiments and pride are more important to you. You want to see a free kashmir without playing any part in the freedom movement and not suffering for it. Kashmiris in Kashmir want nothing more than peace at the moment and to live peacefully like you

And your thinking is extremely naive that terrorism against India is because of Kashmir. Its not. Tomorrow the same terrorists and their backers will want Punjab then Rajasthan and then rest of the country to be divided. But thats never going to happen. Dont try linking the Kashmir issue with terrorism. Kashmiris are just being used as a pawn by terrorist and if any true kashmiri believes that terrorists are fighting for their cause, they are deluded
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You have a typical Indian point of view.

What you forget to remember is that indeed nowadays, the Kashmiri movement (despite being morally and vocally supported by Pakistan) is now coming from WITHIN Kashmir valley. India uses it's get out clause to say that everything to do with Kashmir inc stone throwing is to do with Pakistan.

However, some Indians are fed up with this and new Delhi are worried because the movement is now coming from WITHIN.

Please read what I have written to freelance_cricketer: my friend has been through extreme turmoil.

It is either time to give up Kashmir valley (you can keep Jammu and Ladakh) either for independence/merger with Pakistan- or indeed India will keep wasting its money up there and continue to kill us. This might as in the past, lead to a cycle of violence which culminates in terrible attacks occurring in India every few years.

NB- I DO NOT support any form of violence whatsoever- be it Kashmiris being raped or murdered or Indians suffering terrorist attacks in Mumbai or elsewhere.
 
PS Indiafan- if the Indian army leaves, Kashmiris will declare freedom from India and the game will be up.
 
Jeetu111 said:
come on buddy, i am not labeling just like that . There is overwhelming evidence of this guy firing a ak47 in streets of Mumbai . What do i call him please tell me ?
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criminal.
 
MenInG said:
Lets make this easy for people who are hell bent upon taking this thread everywhere

Facts:


Ajmal Kassab killed people
Ajmal Kassab was punished
Ajmal Kassab was a Pakistani National


This man was a criminal.Deal with it
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This is not a fact but an unsubstantiated claim by the Indian government accepted by other world governments. There is plenty of evidence suggesting this man is not only not a Pakistani but not a Muslim.

Dealing with the truth is the most important thing not dealing with what governments tell you. Muslims are told in the Quran by the Creator not to take information for granted but check up and make your own conclusion. Just because people don't think he was Pakistani doesn't mean they don't condemn the brutal killings of innocent people in Mumbai. Either way he was just a patsy who has been hanged while the instigators of the terror are happily living their lives most likely in very comfortable conditions.
 
Jeetu111 said:
Terrorist : A person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.
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It's not a person only it can be an group or state. India is a terrorist state because of it's actions in Kashmir. Indian terrorism makes Kasab's act look very small in comparison.
 
KingKhanWC said:
It's not a person only it can be an group or state. India is a terrorist state because of it's actions in Kashmir. Indian terrorism makes Kasab's act look very small in comparison.
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so pakistan,srilanka,china etc are terrorist states.
 
Let me start by saying - may his soul RIP. Also I dnt think a dead man should be discussed fr 3 pages.
What he did to Mumbai is sad and painful, but I for one do not advocate in capital punishment. Killing a young man is of no solution. Then what is the difference between terrorists and law. He should have served life time imprisonement...but should not have been hanged - just for the humanitarian grounds. We are civilised society and do not think like terrorist. And by we, I mean both Ind - Pak and entire world.
Let me summarise by saying - I feel bad for Kasab. I may be wrong...but thats what I feel.
 
KingKhanWC said:
In your little world which part of planet Earth is Pakistan occupying?
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of course the definitions are chosen which are convenient.. a terrorist nation is also a nation that turns its army on its own citizens..which kills them because they have a different political opinion...
 
Austin 3:16 said:
Let me start by saying - may his soul RIP. Also I dnt think a dead man should be discussed fr 3 pages.
What he did to Mumbai is sad and painful, but I for one do not advocate in capital punishment. Killing a young man is of no solution. Then what is the difference between terrorists and law. He should have served life time imprisonement...but should not have been hanged - just for the humanitarian grounds. We are civilised society and do not think like terrorist. And by we, I mean both Ind - Pak and entire world.
Let me summarise by saying - I feel bad for Kasab. I may be wrong...but thats what I feel.
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I don't feel bad for Kasab but I entirely agree with the rest of your post.

Kasab is killed, but do Indians seriously feel any safer ? The threat from extremists is still there, and Indian government should look to tackle root causes of extremism like poverty, illiteracy and of course the Kashmir conflict.

Kasab has committed terrible crimes and deserves punishment. That punishment should be life behind bars. The psychological trauma he will go through is far greater than a quick hanging. People make out as if prison is a cushy holiday camp - have you ever been inside a prison ? You get threats of murder and rape by fellow inmates. Most prisons have open cells of up to 50+ inmates, and far fewer guards.

What Kasab and his gang did was horrendous and every sympathy goes to the families of the victims, and there is very clear evidence of his guilt. But, he was an illiterate youngster from a poor village, who was brainwashed by extremists with promises of glory and money.

If you kill him - that doesn't eliminate the prospect of more extremists - as long as the issue of illiteracy and militancy are still there.

The death penalty won’t scare off future Kasabs or Afzal Gurus. People like them are already willing to die, the suicide bombers can’t be scared off simply by hanging a Kasab.

What needs to be done is to catch them BEFORE they are brainwashed. The death penalty does not ensure no Kasabs in the future.
 
if history teaches us anything, it is that nothing will stop killing of innocents.. innocent people have been killed and will be killed as sacrificial lambs for different agendas... but i appreciate those who think peace will prevail one day
 
GentleMan said:
of course the definitions are chosen which are convenient.. a terrorist nation is also a nation that turns its army on its own citizens..which kills them because they have a different political opinion...
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Every nation has to police itself within it's borders. Having a political opinion is fine but not when you break the law. You will never understand this simple logic but India has been terrorising people who DO NOT want to live under it's rule for decades and a people who were promised the right of self determination. No such thing has ever occurred in Pakistan. Only a complete idiot would even try to make such a comparison.

When you Indians starts to condemn the rape of women in Kashmir as you condemn the murder of people in Mumbai only then will you be taken seriously by me and many others. Indians are hypocrites of the highest order and their soldiers in Kashmir are some of the biggest terrorists the world has ever seen.

Enjoy your evening.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Every nation has to police itself within it's borders. Having a political opinion is fine but not when you break the law. You will never understand this simple logic but India has been terrorising people who DO NOT want to live under it's rule for decades and a people who were promised the right of self determination. No such thing has ever occurred in Pakistan. Only a complete idiot would even try to make such a comparison.

When you Indians starts to condemn the rape of women in Kashmir as you condemn the murder of people in Mumbai only then will you be taken seriously by me and many others. Indians are hypocrites of the highest order and their soldiers in Kashmir are some of the biggest terrorists the world has ever seen.

Enjoy your evening.
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lol.. so you dont like my definition of terrorist nation..sending the army on its own citizens.. a la, operation searchlight, operation cleanup, balochistan..and allowing of drone attacks on its own citizens, plus alliance with nato and joining their war in aghanistan.. terrorist actions of a state..

no bro, dont want to be taken seriously by you, of all people..dont want to do business of deaths--ok i will condemn this, now will you condemn that.. but thanks for the offer anyway..
 
Proxy in chief of the Pak fauj holds ghaibaana namaaz e janaaza for his man.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/h...-offer-funeral-prayers-for-kasab/20121124.htm

Lashkar-e-Tayiba founder Hafiz Mohammad Saeed led a gathering of thousands in offering funeral prayers for Ajmal Kasab, the lone surviving terrorist involved in the Mumbai attacks who was hanged earlier this week, a media report said on Saturday.


Saeed, mastermind of the 2008 assault on Mumbai, offered ghayabana namaz-e-janaza (funeral prayers in absentia) for Kasab at the conclusion of a two-day training session of the Jamaat-ud-Dawah at its headquarters at Muridke near Lahore.

The event was attended by thousands of people, the Urdu newspaper Daily Express reported.

It did not say when the event was held.

Kasab, who was part of a team of ten terrorists who killed 166 people during three days of carnage in Mumbai four years ago, was hanged in a Pune jail on Wednesday.

The Pakistani Taliban have threatened to target Indians to avenge Kasab's execution.

The LeT has described Kasab as a "hero" who will inspire more terror attacks.

Shortly after Kasab's hanging, the JuD refused to comment on the issue.

"We have decided not to issue any statement on the hanging of Kasab as we think it is not appropriate," said Habibullah Salfi, a member of the JuD's media arm.

The JuD claims it has no links with the LeT.

Following the Mumbai terror attacks, the United Nations Security Council had declared the JuD a front for the banned LeT.

Earlier this year, the United States offered a $10 million bounty for Saeed.
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In Urdu.

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Wasim_Waqar said:
PS Indiafan- if the Indian army leaves, Kashmiris will declare freedom from India and the game will be up.
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So then if all proxy warriors get out, Indian army wont have any reason to stay back. So why not do it. As of now, India's reason/excuse for army is that outside terrorists are in Kashmir
 
Namak_Halaal said:
Blag - where was I laughing?

I was refering to evidence supporting your claim that AK was trained to be a Hindu; not trained to be a terrorist.

Where is it?

Making false claims shows what kind of a person you are.
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Not you N_H (the laughing part), those quotes were seperate. Bhagwan is a hindi word which Indians use. Also the sacred threads used were part of the plan, so isnt it obvious?
 
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Indiafan said:
As long as such things are allowed to happen in Pakistan, no point about complaining about its negative image in the world
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Aam Pakistani's don't give a crap about our supposed 'image' in the world.
 
delhi_dude said:
my blood boils on seeing this idiot face..:misbah
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Pakistani Courts (High Court/ Supreme Court) has cleared him and his organization in any links with any terrorist organization. He has been cleared in all 6 cases in the courts.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
It's not a person only it can be an group or state. India is a terrorist state because of it's actions in Kashmir. Indian terrorism makes Kasab's act look very small in comparison.
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wow. What do you think about Pakistan btw ?
 
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