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Exactly this and then he wonders why his support for the club is called into question.

No disrespect to Newcastle, who have a chance of finishing above Arsenal this season but to think they will do accomplish this next season is either brain dead footballing logic or a case or wanting your team to fail to score points on a cricket forum.
Only brain dead people are the two posters who both dissapeared off the forum for month, then came back for humble pie.

Newcastle have a good manager in Eddie howe, they will qualify for CL for 2nd time in a few seasons. Already have a good team and have Saudi owners that will look to invest. So why won't they improve?

Typical arrogant response from you, alot of Arsenal fans didn't think Liverpool would finish above them at the start of the season and they did.

Liverpool as champions will look to strengthen.

Man city spent 200M in January and if they aren't banned from their court case hearing result, are more then likely to spend heavily. Just remember Pep has never gone more than 2 seasons without winning a title in his management career.

If Chelsea or Villa make the CL, they will invest as well.

So this notion that Arsenal sign goekeres and they will walk the league. This is what you best mate Mamoon is proclaiming? So your agreeing with him ate you?

This isn't a point scoring exercises, I've told you and the other Arteta cheerleader, season after season. This guy isn't good enough.

5 trophyless seaaons is proof of thar.

I want a proven manager that can win Arsenal trophies.

Yet losers like you are still celebrating a win over Real Madrid like its a trophy.

Same goes for mamoon whose now celebrating 3 draws at anfield.

Fantastic support from the Arteta super fans. Bunch of 🤡
 
I can't believe Arsenal didn't pursue it. He was available for just under £60m. Absolute steal.



You called it from the beginning, most notably during that game at Anfield during the 22/23 season. As you rightly said, Martinelli never had the footballing IQ to succeed at Arsenal.

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How bout you both talk about you amazing ball knowledge where Odegaard was world class CAM

But but I agree with you... Will you be my best mamoon.

Your embarrassing you turns, just so you can petted like an obident dog from another poster

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He did this earlier in the season when I made a post about how Arsenal had improved in Europe following their win against Sporting. Before this game he said:



After thrashing Sporting 5-1. This was his excuse:

Aww are you after mamoons approval like a little lap dog.

I gave Arsenal credit after Real Madrid game.

But guess what we didn't win the CL. So for all the "progress" in beating 1 Top side of equal or better quality in the CL

Arsenal have ended seaaon trophyless.

Bit its ok you and peshwari Jimmy hill can celebrate the "we beat Madrid trophy"

"We drew at anfield 3 seasons in a row trophy"
 
Aww are you after mamoons approval like a little lap dog.

I gave Arsenal credit after Real Madrid game.

But guess what we didn't win the CL. So for all the "progress" in beating 1 Top side of equal or better quality in the CL

Arsenal have ended seaaon trophyless.

Bit its ok you and peshwari Jimmy hill can celebrate the "we beat Madrid trophy"

"We drew at anfield 3 seasons in a row trophy"
It's only this attitude that will help Arsenal kick.on, no point in being happy with mediocrity or fringe challengers!

Those that are a bit older- remember the proper Arsenal teams of yesteryear, this current team isn't in that league
 
Such a strange flex considering they've walked the league
This is a coping mechanism for the losers in the Arsenal fan basem

This is the same guy who reckons finishing 2nd is better, than finishing 3rd or 4th and winning a domestic trophy.

So as of right now "mamoon" logic is Arsenal have had a better season then newcastle
 
It's only this attitude that will help Arsenal kick.on, no point in being happy with mediocrity or fringe challengers!

Those that are a bit older- remember the proper Arsenal teams of yesteryear, this current team isn't in that league
100% spot on

Sadly the modern breed of Arsenal fans that are happy to make excuses all time as its their way of coping with failure

Then actually fans who have seen their team win titles, who call it out are call fake fans

Seems certain posters are more interest in kissing other posters behinds, then being honest and admitting their team has failed

But but we beat Madrid in CL 1/4 finals.. but but we made progress.
 
So Arsenal could finish 2nd, 3rd place Newcastle have won a trophy. City are in FA cup final.

Arsenal weren't In a title race. Here's a zero ball knowledge gem from the past

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He did this earlier in the season when I made a post about how Arsenal had improved in Europe following their win against Sporting. Before this game he said:



After thrashing Sporting 5-1. This was his excuse:
Are Arsenal in the CL final this season?

Oh no they aren't.

I know you slow and mentally challenged, so now your wanting to celebrate Arsenal's "progress"

When's the parade?

I gave Arsenal credit for beating Real Madrid.

Guess what we have won fk all again this season.

This is what your celebrating?

You pretty much sum up the losers in this fanbase, when the highlight of the season is progress in Europe.

Reality is that the CL is a cup competition and Arsenal are not in the final.

But feel free to celebrate

We beat Sporting 5-1 trophy
We beat Real Madrid trophy
We beat man city 5-1 trophy
We drew at eithad and anfield trophy..

Your a so called positive Real fan, when this is sort of **** your celebrating

I've even called your bluff earlier in season and told you Arsenal would NOT win the CL, guess what they havent
 
It's a few seasons, its been over 15 years you last beat us at Anfield. Onus on arsenal to win , you're now fighting for 3rd place, why lfc can still win the league by a record margin . The teams aren't close , dead rubbers mean little.

Arteta has won 1 fa cup and acc to him 2 charity shields in nearly 6 years. Liverpool have been picking up silverware regularly inc the biggest prize.

This mentality is on par with indian media, accept the failure of your manager to once again bring zero trophies. It's been a failure this season and your excited about a draw when its over lol .

Prediction for next season? In the ba..?
Oh my word the guy is celebrating draws at Anfield like it's some kind of trophy :ROFLMAO:

I guess after being slapped year after year 4-0, 5-1, 3-1 etc that these 0-0s and 2-2s is cause for a parade. Today they managed to scrape a draw when our players are already planning their holidays !

Most of the Arsenal fans I've seen online have been very gracious about our title win, including Robbie from AFTV. If the roles were reversed, I'd gladly show my appreciation as Arsenal are a proper club unlike 115 Charges FC who financially doped their way to success.

But this Dr has no grace or class. This doubling down on twisted logic and wild flights of fancy to win internet points is not the product of a sound human mind.
 
Oh my word the guy is celebrating draws at Anfield like it's some kind of trophy :ROFLMAO:

I guess after being slapped year after year 4-0, 5-1, 3-1 etc that these 0-0s and 2-2s is cause for a parade. Today they managed to scrape a draw when our players are already planning their holidays !

Most of the Arsenal fans I've seen online have been very gracious about our title win, including Robbie from AFTV. If the roles were reversed, I'd gladly show my appreciation as Arsenal are a proper club unlike 115 Charges FC who financially doped their way to success.

But this Dr has no grace or class. This doubling down on twisted logic and wild flights of fancy to win internet points is not the product of a sound human mind.
He's not the only loser in Arsensl fan base peddaling excuses out. You've got another 2 losers making similar excuses

The same arrogance of these posters assumed Liverpool would be no threat this season.

They are now assuming thar Arsenal need to sign a few players and trophies will be won.

They seem to think that other teams around them won't improve or spend.

Teams like Newcastle and Man city who have bigger spending resources then Arsenal aren't just going to sit their and do nothing.
 
Newcastle up next. 2nd place up for grabs. Mammon says it's a nothing team @Geordie Ahmed , are you ready to fight for 2nd next week?

What he thinks of us is irrelevant

At the start of the season our objective was European Qualification (Europa League at a minimum) and a cup run (well, we more than got that)

For us finishing 2nd would be nice but doesn't really mean a huge deal, securing Champions League football is the aim with 2 games left and if we can do that it's been one hell of a season

As for next season, it will all depend on the transfer window, the previous 3 for us have not been at a good enough level (understandably so with PSR restrictions), if Howe can get backed with 3-4 quality players at a minimum (which we will need with Europe happening) as well as keeping our start players then I'm confident we can have a good season
 
Oh my word the guy is celebrating draws at Anfield like it's some kind of trophy :ROFLMAO:

I guess after being slapped year after year 4-0, 5-1, 3-1 etc that these 0-0s and 2-2s is cause for a parade. Today they managed to scrape a draw when our players are already planning their holidays !

Most of the Arsenal fans I've seen online have been very gracious about our title win, including Robbie from AFTV. If the roles were reversed, I'd gladly show my appreciation as Arsenal are a proper club unlike 115 Charges FC who financially doped their way to success.

But this Dr has no grace or class. This doubling down on twisted logic and wild flights of fancy to win internet points is not the product of a sound human mind.

Mammon did the crazy thing of predicting 2 Premier leagues in 3 years,.... 2 years ago.

When the Rafael was downed , india said losses happen but we are still competing, no different here.

Arsenal have top players but short in key areas but their manager is learning on the job . Hes had his training and now must deliver next season. It will be interesting to see how the team plays next season but this season is a failure, celebrating not losing is the last thing to hang oneself
 
Mammon did the crazy thing of predicting 2 Premier leagues in 3 years,.... 2 years ago.
The prediction post has been saved and will be used to exposes his clueless ball knowledge as well as his little lapdog, who seems to be coming up with same level of nonsense
 
What he thinks of us is irrelevant

At the start of the season our objective was European Qualification (Europa League at a minimum) and a cup run (well, we more than got that)

For us finishing 2nd would be nice but doesn't really mean a huge deal, securing Champions League football is the aim with 2 games left and if we can do that it's been one hell of a season

As for next season, it will all depend on the transfer window, the previous 3 for us have not been at a good enough level (understandably so with PSR restrictions), if Howe can get backed with 3-4 quality players at a minimum (which we will need with Europe happening) as well as keeping our start players then I'm confident we can have a good season

More Regular CL football for Newcastle or Villa etc.. teams wanting to become regular teams in CL will allow for better spending. Yes PSR puts some restrictions on it. But the more regular European football, allows for natural annual turnover to be built up in an organic fashion. Also regular European football allows to attract a decent level of player. So I can't see why your club can't spend more money this time round.

With so many clubs improving this season, there are players for example at Forrest, Bournemouth, West ham, Palace, Fulham, brentford that teams on Top 5 currently could target to improve their squads.

So the 3-4 players you want should be atainable
 
The prediction post has been saved and will be used to exposes his clueless ball knowledge as well as his little lapdog, who seems to be coming up with same level of nonsense

What is more striking is if arteta wins 0 trophies next year , it's a review, no sack and another year to try again. If this is the general perception of most fans, they cant complain for not being successful
 
What is more striking is if arteta wins 0 trophies next year , it's a review, no sack and another year to try again. If this is the general perception of most fans, they cant complain for not being successful
Most Arteta fan boys act as though he's their dad or relative, or in some cases teenage crush. Arsenal existed before this guy was given the job and will exist when this loser is sacked. Yet they are so heavily invested in it, like its some sort of Hollywood movie with a happy ending.

They don't want to face up to reality

You know when a team has no standards or accountability when yoh have certain fans begging for validation after winning a CL group game or celebrating drawing 3 games in a row at anfield

These are they "highlights of the season" for them.

Big clubs are big clubs due to trophies won, yet These losers want to milk individual results in a season like its greatest moment in history.

On here, on Facebook, Instagram, twitter its all the same. The way most of this fan base behaves its no wonder its called netflix FC
 
More Regular CL football for Newcastle or Villa etc.. teams wanting to become regular teams in CL will allow for better spending. Yes PSR puts some restrictions on it. But the more regular European football, allows for natural annual turnover to be built up in an organic fashion. Also regular European football allows to attract a decent level of player. So I can't see why your club can't spend more money this time round.

With so many clubs improving this season, there are players for example at Forrest, Bournemouth, West ham, Palace, Fulham, brentford that teams on Top 5 currently could target to improve their squads.

So the 3-4 players you want should be atainable

The reports suggest we will be able to have a more active summer as our PSR situation looks healthier especially as year 1 of the 3 year rolling drops off

How active will depend on the European competition we are in as the revenues from one to the other is quite a bit
 
The reports suggest we will be able to have a more active summer as our PSR situation looks healthier especially as year 1 of the 3 year rolling drops off

How active will depend on the European competition we are in as the revenues from one to the other is quite a bit
Again if you look at the examples of Newcastle or Villa, not long ago you were both near the relegation zones, finances not great etc.. that 1st season in CL essentially would have helped level off previous debts or losses in a PR cycle. Also a one off qualification for CL, doesn't give financial stability. A 2nd season in 3 does, plus there are 2 Extra group games now.

With 32 teams in competition, the very least Newcastle should achieve is being in the top 24. So that means at least a playoff round.

So 10 CL games minimum for example brings in more to spend, with big stadium you have again more revenue.

Also like you say 1 bad previous year of PSR comes off. So you should be able to spend more.

Players like eze, gibbs white, Wharton, mateta, mbeumo, bowen, etc... are clubs where players are obtainable these are sorted of players id look to make your squad even better
 
Aj, just a quick question.
Don't you wish you're wrong?
Arteta has been here 5 years and failed.

I want a manager whose going to get Arsenal over the line its that simple.

We are Not winning the PL or CL in 25/26 season either.

If I'm wrong il hold my hand up and say well done for that moment in time. It doesnt mean the past becomes irrelevant.

Just blindly hoping things will happen or making wild prediction with no real logic other than hope isn't being positive.
 
So seems certain posters in this fan base want credit to be given for certain results this season

Sporting (away)
Man city (away)
Man city (home)
Real Madrid (home)
Liverpool (away)

But but your not giving credit..

But but we've improved...

What have these results lead to? Another trophyless season.

Facts and reality are this club whether it be in a top 4 race, title race, Europa league, CL etc.. plays well when their is no expectation / pressure to do well.

As soon as the team is "expected" to win these trophies it crumbles, as does the manager.

That's because the owners don't care about winning regular titles

The manager is happy spouting PR and excuses every season

The captain is hapg spouting PR and excuses every season.

Certain posters mamoon, Topspin, immy69 to name a few are happy celebrating individual wins or milestones in a season, rather winning trophies. It's no different to Pakistan crickets cutting cake for getting 50s and 100s. Or celebrating getting to a semi final or final.


But it's ok guys Arsenal just need a striker and they will walk the league next season.

Just because a manager in 5+ years has done better then some expected, doesn't make it a success.

Managers are big clubs are judged on trophies they win, and 5 years zero trophies, zero cup finals.

Arteta is on a par with poch, Rogers, Southgate etc.. when it cones to failing to deliver
 
“5 years and failed”

The definition of failure is laughable. Arteta took a team that was struggling to stay in the top 8 to one that is fighting to win the league.

He took a team that couldn’t get into the UCL to beating the likes of Madrid and reaching the UCL final.

That is not failure, and success/failure is not measured by trophies only. Ten Hag won two cups but he was still a failure for United and Amorim has been a failure so far even if he wins the Europa.

Arteta has done enough to deserve another spin of the wheel especially under a new Sporting Director. It is going to be a pivotal summer for the club and for Arteta and all Arsenal fans should hope for the best and aim to win the league next season.
 
He took a team that couldn’t get into the UCL to beating the likes of Madrid and reaching the UCL final.
Correction - you reached the semi final.

Most Arsenal fans knew it'd be a tough ask but some needed a reality check after having their head in the clouds post-Real Madrid.

Seems Arteta's "we were statistically the best Champions League" line is being confused for an actual trophy.
 
Arsenal will have a challenge to finish in the Top 4 next season let alone winning the title.

Other teams competing will also strengthen to consolidate.

And if City escape the FFP Charges, then the green light for Pep to wave the magic wand 🪄 (cheque book) will have some force behind it.

Really do feel Gooners missed a glorious chance this season.
 
“5 years and failed”

The definition of failure is laughable. Arteta took a team that was struggling to stay in the top 8 to one that is fighting to win the league.

He took a team that couldn’t get into the UCL to beating the likes of Madrid and reaching the UCL final.

That is not failure, and success/failure is not measured by trophies only. Ten Hag won two cups but he was still a failure for United and Amorim has been a failure so far even if he wins the Europa.

Arteta has done enough to deserve another spin of the wheel especially under a new Sporting Director. It is going to be a pivotal summer for the club and for Arteta and all Arsenal fans should hope for the best and aim to win the league next season.

Jeez. Good to see you back.

But lets not kid ourselves. You Gooners have missed a Glorious chance to finally land Major silverware this season, and once again they fluffed their lines.

To be brutally honest, you Gooners have not really challenged Liverpool. It's always been a case of keeping the Gooners at a arms length, and the gap widened significantly halfway through the season.
 
Yet more grade nonsense, this coming from a clueless ball knowledge merchant who season after season has said Arsenal will win title etc..then runs off and dissapears for months after being humilated. Seem your best mate topspin are trying to out do each other with the lame excuses.

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Might be as far Arteta can go with the club. I think he’s done a good job building the side, and has made the side very good in defense, well organised and drilled. Defensively Arsenal have been awful for a decade now, to have someone come in and finally fix it, you’ve got to give him credit for that.

Biggest problem is mental. This Arsenal side continue to choke and bottle chances. It’s because this team isn’t used to winning, nor the manager. I really do think if Arsenal hadn’t bottled 2022/23, you’d see a more confident team with a few more trophies. Things might have turned out different now. But you can’t just automatically expect these things when the manager, it’s his first job, the squad fairly young, and Arsenal has been non competitive for 15 years or so before 2022 season.

I think Martinelli and Oodegaard’s drop in form has been the biggest reasons for our decline this season. More than simply not having a striker. Especially Oodegaard, who the attack has been centred around the previous two seasons. Him falling off a cliff has made the attack disjointed with Saka easily being marked.

I think it’s time to get a winner in. I’d take ancelotti. I’d take inzaghi too. Wouldn’t take an upcoming manager anymore, needs to be someone that has won from one of the big leagues with recent success who can come in and take this side over the line.
 
Arsenal will have a challenge to finish in the Top 4 next season let alone winning the title.

Other teams competing will also strengthen to consolidate.

And if City escape the FFP Charges, then the green light for Pep to wave the magic wand 🪄 (cheque book) will have some force behind it.

Really do feel Gooners missed a glorious chance this season.
PL will be more competitive at top end of table next season.

City, Newcastle, Liverpool, Arsenal, (Chelsea and Villa) all likely to spend a lot, depending on if they make CL spots.

So it means more teams taking points off each other in fixture. Winning league will get harder
 
Correction - you reached the semi final.
Thanks for the correction. I thought Arsenal had made the final and was about to book tickets for Munich.
Most Arsenal fans knew it'd be a tough ask but some needed a reality check after having their head in the clouds post-Real Madrid.
I don’t know who these fans are as I was not here, but as far as I am concerned, I didn’t overreact because I was expecting Arsenal to prevail because Madrid is struggling this season and Ancelotti has once again been exposed as a tactical fraud.

I can only laugh at those Arsenal fans who wanted Ancelotti to replace Arteta. Not in a million years can he do a better job at Arsenal than Arteta has.
Seems Arteta's "we were statistically the best Champions League" line is being confused for an actual trophy.
It was an emotional statement after a heartbreaking exit where Arsenal were superior across both legs against a team that they had already beat but were undone by their goalkeeper, so such reactions are expected. Every manager says such things, it’s not a big deal.
 
Jeez. Good to see you back.

But lets not kid ourselves. You Gooners have missed a Glorious chance to finally land Major silverware this season, and once again they fluffed their lines.

To be brutally honest, you Gooners have not really challenged Liverpool. It's always been a case of keeping the Gooners at an arms length, and the gap widened significantly halfway through the season.
Liverpool had PGMOL in their back pocket in this season. Even yesterday, Robertson choked Saka and it didn’t even get reviewed. It couldn’t have been a more blatant foul.

Everyone knows Liverpool is far from the best team in the league. They will barely scrape into the top 4 without Salah and the PGMOL giving them favors week in week out.

Arsenal have been shafted by refereeing corruption this season. I knew this season was going to be an uphill task after the SAF scum Howard Webb was influencing the referee from the stands.

Anyway, in addition to the above, the unlucky injuries played a pivotal role. Anyway, it is time to look forward. This season was a blip and Arsenal will be ready next season. The club will have a plan to counter PGMOL and the injury crisis, I have faith.
 
Arsenal will have a challenge to finish in the Top 4 next season let alone winning the title.

Other teams competing will also strengthen to consolidate.

And if City escape the FFP Charges, then the green light for Pep to wave the magic wand 🪄 (cheque book) will have some force behind it.

Really do feel Gooners missed a glorious chance this season.
You don’t need to worry about Arsenal. Focus more on your joke of a club that is on the verge of finishing just above the relegation zone. What is United’s plan for the summer?
 
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So Arteta fan boy chairmen thinks

- Arsenal got to CL final - lying here as usual
- Proclaiming Arsenal would beat Madrid (whilst he was busy hiding for 4 months)
- Ancelotti tactical fraud - same person who has won 2 LA ligas and 2 CL whilst in charge at Madrid
- Arsenal were superior to PSG - delusion at it finest, or clearly high on drugs
- Liverpool fluked the PL title

This is the nonsense you get from clueless ball knowledge merchants.
 
For the past 26 years, Ancelotti has been continuously managing the most powerful clubs in Europe apart from brief spells at Napoli and Everton.

He has only won 6 league titles which includes the Bundesliga and Ligue 1 with Bayern and PSG, which a million managers in the world can achieve.

He is one of the most overrated managers of all time whose success hinges on the talents of his expensive players in knockout matches. He is a glorified cup manager like Rafa Benitez.

Ancelotti at Arsenal would have been a disaster and Arsenal would have been well below where they are today.

He is a completely wrong profile for any club that needs to improve its standing in league football. He is a tactical failure and if he wasn’t, he would have won at least 2x more league titles in his career.

Alonso will show over the next few years how inept Ancelotti is.
 
You don’t need to worry about Arsenal. Focus more on your joke of a club that is on the verge of finishing just above the relegation zone. What is United’s plan for the summer?

Thanks for your concerns Regarding Utd. I agree, we've got a job on our hands regarding improving and stabilizing our league form and position.

However, until we do that, we will continue to challenge and be in a position to win other trophies to keep fanbase on board.

You must be frustrated with Arteta piling up the Trophyless seasons and even the regular fan base beginning to question his ability to actually win silverware.

There's even talk, Spurs would consider it a better season if they won the Europa league and Arsenal once again are empty handed.
 
Thanks for your concerns Regarding Utd. I agree, we've got a job on our hands regarding improving and stabilizing our league form and position.

However, until we do that, we will continue to challenge and be in a position to win other trophies to keep fanbase on board.

You must be frustrated with Arteta piling up the Trophyless seasons and even the regular fan base beginning to question his ability to actually win silverware.

There's even talk, Spurs would consider it a better season if they won the Europa league and Arsenal once again are empty handed.
If United and Spurs fans are deluded enough to think that finishing 16th and 17th with a second class trophy is better than finishing 2nd and making the UCL semifinal, then both sets of fans fully deserve to be where they are and with such weak mentality, they will never witness sunrise again and will continue to struggle in the depths of darkness & despair.
 
Imagine calling proven managers failures

Then calling managers who have gone trophyless for 5 seasons with zero cup finals - the best in world

Absolute retards in this fan base
 
The problem is mostly the players really. In PSG tie, Arsenal created enough chances to win the game as evidenced by xg. But they didn’t take those chances, made mistakes. We’ve seen in the past this season needless red cards, switching off. I don’t think that’s the managers fault. He has done enough tactically to set up the game. Could argue he the attacking players aren’t good enough. But Arteta has hardly bought any. He has put the budget into defense and midfield. And I don’t know if the money being available to sign attacking players is down to him. Buying a striker is not easy, the good ones cost a lot of money, could well flop anyway despite the high price tag and have to fit into the system. It’s much easier to strengthen the positions around then to cater to the striker you bring in. When you are a big team it is extremely difficult to do with possession based football as we’ve seen in many instances, so many of them end up as just flops.

Even Martinelli and Oodegaard it’s not that they’ve never performed before. They were performing, they have just lost form and declined in performance. I don’t think it’s the managers tactics that have caused this. And particularly in Martinelli, he’s just not clinical enough.

The issue is most times there is pressure, the players choke. They loose their composure, make mistakes, stupid red cards. They can’t handle the pressure. And Arsenal’s history for the last 15 years goes against them too. It’s also why it’s so hard to break Man City’s grasp on the league. The players and the manager have become so accustomed to winning, they don’t choke. Even if they go through a bad patch, they have faith they’ll get back up and others will fail.

A manager who’s seen and done it before can bring that confidence to get over the finish line. You can’t change the players and bring in players with experience of winning. They don’t tend to leave clubs until they are past it or require far too much money to purchase. Thats why I’m sure he’s brought in guys like William, Jourginho, sterling, Jesus, zinchenko etc. but it doesn’t work these guys aren’t good enough or past it by the time they come. It’s been 5 years and eventually there comes a point where you’ve got to you need to switch things up to make progress. Every time this team bottles again and again, without winning it makes the pressure more and more to get that first win again. You can make valid arguments to give him another season. But what if he doesn’t win next season, or the season after that? There will be a breaking point as some point. I think we’re already there or nearly there now. Regardless if the manager is generally doing the right things and building up the squad well.

Ancelotti has unfortunately gone to Brazil so it’s too late. I don’t think Arsenal will be able to snatch inzaghi away. So there might not be any real top candidates that can come in and win right anyway that are available anyway, so might as well stick with Arteta. It’s not worth getting rid of Arteta for just anyone, has to be an absolutely top manager that offers winning experience. Otherwise not worth passing on Arteta who has done a good or even very good job with Arsenal but not a fantastic one (otherwise Arsenal would have a title).
 
Peter Schmeichel slams Mikel Arteta as a 'control freak' who is making Arsenal players 'worse' 🤯

🗣️ "It's all on Arteta. He was employed as head coach. He inherited the team and that team is the only team that he has won a trophy with. Then it’s his own team now and in the process he’s changed job description so he’s now the manager. Everything is on him. It’s not recruitment, it’s not the board.

"I would urge the viewer to watch him in the technical area. Arteta is a control freak, he wants his players to play the ball that he wants. He’s directing everything. You look across to Arne Slot who is so calm. He’s instructed his players in training, instructed the players in the team talk.

"Arteta is still playing the game for the players and that would confuse the hell out of me as a football player that you had a coach that wants to direct me for everything I do. It would confuse me and make me a worse player.” 😳
 
What are Schmeichel’s credentials as a manager. Oh wait, he has 0 experience as a manager because like most former players, he is too scared to prove himself and would rather sit on an armchair and spout nonsense.
 
What are Schmeichel’s credentials as a manager. Oh wait, he has 0 experience as a manager because like most former players, he is too scared to prove himself and would rather sit on an armchair and spout nonsense.

Credentials and Experience maybe in Question.

Achievement wise, both Schmeichel and Arteta are in the same Boat.
 
There are some managers who know how to cross the line and win silverware.

Ruben and Arne Slot both won domestic titles , now in their first season at a new club winning trophies already, utd should beat spurs but even Ange is a previous winner.

Arteta clearly struggled so far with a lot of backing . The pressure next year to deliver is huge now. If he fails again , arsenal fans aren't emotionally loyal , they had Wenger out placards in the stadium, their goat manager. Same will happen again unless your mamoon and will review it
 
The problem is mostly the players really. In PSG tie, Arsenal created enough chances to win the game as evidenced by xg. But they didn’t take those chances, made mistakes. We’ve seen in the past this season needless red cards, switching off. I don’t think that’s the managers fault. He has done enough tactically to set up the game. Could argue he the attacking players aren’t good enough. But Arteta has hardly bought any. He has put the budget into defense and midfield. And I don’t know if the money being available to sign attacking players is down to him. Buying a striker is not easy, the good ones cost a lot of money, could well flop anyway despite the high price tag and have to fit into the system. It’s much easier to strengthen the positions around then to cater to the striker you bring in. When you are a big team it is extremely difficult to do with possession based football as we’ve seen in many instances, so many of them end up as just flops.

Even Martinelli and Oodegaard it’s not that they’ve never performed before. They were performing, they have just lost form and declined in performance. I don’t think it’s the managers tactics that have caused this. And particularly in Martinelli, he’s just not clinical enough.

The issue is most times there is pressure, the players choke. They loose their composure, make mistakes, stupid red cards. They can’t handle the pressure. And Arsenal’s history for the last 15 years goes against them too. It’s also why it’s so hard to break Man City’s grasp on the league. The players and the manager have become so accustomed to winning, they don’t choke. Even if they go through a bad patch, they have faith they’ll get back up and others will fail.

A manager who’s seen and done it before can bring that confidence to get over the finish line. You can’t change the players and bring in players with experience of winning. They don’t tend to leave clubs until they are past it or require far too much money to purchase. Thats why I’m sure he’s brought in guys like William, Jourginho, sterling, Jesus, zinchenko etc. but it doesn’t work these guys aren’t good enough or past it by the time they come. It’s been 5 years and eventually there comes a point where you’ve got to you need to switch things up to make progress. Every time this team bottles again and again, without winning it makes the pressure more and more to get that first win again. You can make valid arguments to give him another season. But what if he doesn’t win next season, or the season after that? There will be a breaking point as some point. I think we’re already there or nearly there now. Regardless if the manager is generally doing the right things and building up the squad well.

Ancelotti has unfortunately gone to Brazil so it’s too late. I don’t think Arsenal will be able to snatch inzaghi away. So there might not be any real top candidates that can come in and win right anyway that are available anyway, so might as well stick with Arteta. It’s not worth getting rid of Arteta for just anyone, has to be an absolutely top manager that offers winning experience. Otherwise not worth passing on Arteta who has done a good or even very good job with Arsenal but not a fantastic one (otherwise Arsenal would have a title).

Good to see some people are finally seeing sense.

This team is over coached and plays with zero freedom. Everything has to choreographed, its low risk football. The safety first approach is exactly why the teams drawn so many games this season.

Odegaard over performed in the season where he got 15+ goals. He's simply returned to his usual standard. A mentally weak leader, who epitomises the weak culture in the club.

Martinelli is a player who benefits from space in behind defenders. The way Arsenal play possession based football, its not going to gey best out of him. Yes the player himself needs to massively improve on his decision making. Arteta got all these rave reviews on how he supposedly improved man city's attacked where he was Peps cone boy. Yet, all Arsenal attacks barring saka, haven't thrived under him. He even turned a 20 goal a season Auba into a left wingback with his useless play.

There are plenty of other managers out there, sadly most of this fan base act like Arteta is their dad. Fans are happy to back a novice for 5 years who Is a failure, yet then also act like the club would fall apart if someone else came in. This is how much the club has brained washed fans to the point that they are happy to accept just competing and rolling excuses out to justify failure.

The fan base won't demand change, so this continual process of failure will keep going for the next few years.

Yes we do need a new manager to get us over line. But by time that happens, the damage will be even worse and irreparable over the short term.
 
There are some managers who know how to cross the line and win silverware.

Ruben and Arne Slot both won domestic titles , now in their first season at a new club winning trophies already, utd should beat spurs but even Ange is a previous winner.

Arteta clearly struggled so far with a lot of backing . The pressure next year to deliver is huge now. If he fails again , arsenal fans aren't emotionally loyal , they had Wenger out placards in the stadium, their goat manager. Same will happen again unless your mamoon and will review it

Finishing 2nd and reaching CL semi finals are now amazing trophy like achievements according to this clueless zero ball knowledge merchant.

Liverpool should have given Arsenal guard of honour for reaching CL semis.

This guy will continue to come up with nonsense to defend Arteta no matter what
 
Finishing 2nd and reaching CL semi finals are now amazing trophy like achievements according to this clueless zero ball knowledge merchant.

Liverpool should have given Arsenal guard of honour for reaching CL semis.

This guy will continue to come up with nonsense to defend Arteta no matter what

Liverpool finished 2nd and reached CL finals multiple times, nobody even remembers those season even though the team was so close. The quadruple was two wins away, again the fans only remember the CL and PL trophies. Coming 2nd is no different to coming last.

Its interesting as he arteta doesn't have much of a personality, so not sure what the fascination is .

Brazil the greatest footballing national team haven't won the world cup for a while, they are desperate so have taken Don Carlo. Because he is a proven winner.
 
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Liverpool finished 2nd and reached CL finals multiple times, nobody even remembers those season even though the team was so close. The quadruple was two wins away, again the fans only remember the CL and PL trophies. Coming 2nd is no different to coming last.

Its interesting as he arteta doesn't have much of a personality, so not sure what the fascination is .

Brazil the greatest footballing national team haven't won the world cup for a while, they are desperate so have taken Don Carlo. Because he is a proven winner ,.
If I was in charge of a football federation of any country, I would also pick Carlo because he is a cup manager.

Give him quality players and he can win you cups in knockout scenarios, but he is too tactically inept to be successful in league football.

Thats why in spite of coaching the most powerful clubs in Europe for 26 years, he has only won the league 6 times. His days of coaching top clubs in Europe are over now. He will retire after coaching Brazil.
 
So a manager who has won 2 league titles and 2 CL in last 5 years is a "Cup manager"

The same 2 clueless zero ball knowledge merchants, are celebrating 5 trophyless seasons at Arsenal

But but Arteta got us back in CL, it's a miracle 🤣🤦‍♂️. Spending 750M in 5+ years to play in CL, amazing

But but he got us to a CL semi final

Edin terzic got Dortmund to a CL final in last 5 years

Stefano Pioli has got to a CL semi final with AC milan

Emery got villareal to a CL semi final

All these managers have done this in last 5 years

Yet, the Arteta fan boys acting like hrs greatest manager in clubs history.

It's actually embarrassing how Arteta fan boys mock other managers for so called not been good enough, yet celebrate zero achievements in last 5 season.

All because of some weirdo teenage like crush on the manager.
 
Liverpool finished 2nd and reached CL finals multiple times, nobody even remembers those season even though the team was so close. The quadruple was two wins away, again the fans only remember the CL and PL trophies. Coming 2nd is no different to coming last.

Its interesting as he arteta doesn't have much of a personality, so not sure what the fascination is .

Brazil the greatest footballing national team haven't won the world cup for a while, they are desperate so have taken Don Carlo. Because he is a proven winner.
No one remember teams that fall short, (unless your the 3 losers Artetas cheerleaders) and as a coping mechanism you roll out excuses.

So know reaching a CL semi final is a miracle.

Ten haag got to a CL semi final with Ajax

Emery got to a CL semi final with villareal

Yet when Arteta does it, you have people asking for a parade, guard of honour, he's Arsenal greatest manager .

This is what you get for zero knowledge ball merchants.
 
So a manager who has won 2 league titles and 2 CL in last 5 years is a "Cup manager"

The same 2 clueless zero ball knowledge merchants, are celebrating 5 trophyless seasons at Arsenal

But but Arteta got us back in CL, it's a miracle 🤣🤦‍♂️. Spending 750M in 5+ years to play in CL, amazing

But but he got us to a CL semi final

Edin terzic got Dortmund to a CL final in last 5 years

Stefano Pioli has got to a CL semi final with AC milan

Emery got villareal to a CL semi final

All these managers have done this in last 5 years

Yet, the Arteta fan boys acting like hrs greatest manager in clubs history.

It's actually embarrassing how Arteta fan boys mock other managers for so called not been good enough, yet celebrate zero achievements in last 5 season.

All because of some weirdo teenage like crush on the manager.
Ancelotti is the definition of a cup manager. 6 league titles in 26 years in spite of coaching only the most powerful clubs in Europe is embarrassing.

Anyway, name your Arteta replacements and explain with facts & figures why they will do a better job and get Arsenal over the line which you think Arteta isn’t capable of doing so.

The floor is yours.
 
Bayern are all set to trigger Nico Williams’ release clause as per reports in Germany.

Looks like Arsenal missed the boat with this one. Bayern are not coming slow with the signings of Wirtz and Nico in addition to what they have already.

Arsenal must monitor the Rodrygo situation closely but it will face stiff competition from City. Pep loves him.
 
Arsenal have dodged a bullet if they don't get nico Williams. Yes he was good in the Euros final, but his la liga performances are average at best.

Including this season (currently played 29 league games) this guy has regularly played 30+ games a season and the best goal tally in "the league" is 6 goals.

He's another player who blows hot and cold. Certainly isn't going to take Arsenal to the next level. Is he much better than martinelli or trosssard? Maybe slightly

Arsenal should be looking at elite level wingers and strikers. Williams not at that level.

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Arsenal have dodged a bullet if they don't get nico Williams. Yes he was good in the Euros final, but his la liga performances are average at best.

Including this season (currently played 29 league games) this guy has regularly played 30+ games a season and the best goal tally in "the league" is 6 goals.

He's another player who blows hot and cold. Certainly isn't going to take Arsenal to the next level. Is he much better than martinelli or trosssard? Maybe slightly

Arsenal should be looking at elite level wingers and strikers. Williams not at that level.

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He has a lot of potential that is waiting to be unlocked on a bigger platform. There is a reason why Barcelona wanted him before Raphina changed his mind on the Saudi move.

The way he played for Spain in the Euros and interlinked with Yamal was a joy to watch.

He would have been a significant upgrade on brain-dead Martinelli and besides, the winger market is quite saturated at this point. There are very few who are attainable.
 
International football and club football are complete different.

Even in the Euros - Williams performance were inconsistent. When he was good, he was a joy to watch. When he was poor, he looked like a headless chicken.

Barca dodged a bullet in signing him as well. They have Yamal and Raphina who are both miles better players.

Also Spain play in a completely different way to Arsenal, Spain wingers are given freedom to get the ball and attack defenders.

Arsenal play is more intent on keeping the ball and recycling it, then getting ball forward quickly.

Also at bilbao, most of teams Williams come up against don't play low blocks

So that's going to be another issue in the PL for a player whose decision making isn't great and goal output isn't great.

Other then saka, none of Arsenal attacks have improved consistently or gone up a level. So their is no proof that another player "with potential" is going to thrive under Arteta.

Williams would be more suited to team that plays transition based counter attacking football like Liverpool, PSG or even Villa or newcastle. Teams which look to get the ball forward quickly when playing on counter attack.

Arsenal will also have to completely change style of play if they are looking at wingers and a striker who both thrive on space in behind. Arsenal slow possession based recycling football doesn't allow for that.

Also Williams would be expected to defend and run back all time, like Martinelli has to, which would make Williams even more ineffective

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He has a lot of potential that is waiting to be unlocked on a bigger platform. There is a reason why Barcelona wanted him before Raphina changed his mind on the Saudi move.

The way he played for Spain in the Euros and interlinked with Yamal was a joy to watch.

He would have been a significant upgrade on brain-dead Martinelli and besides, the winger market is quite saturated at this point. There are very few who are attainable.

Agree. Sometimes, you have to look beyond stats. Williams for me has hugh potential. And his chemistry with Yamal and other Barcelona attackers was a joy to watch.
 
International football and club football are complete different.

Even in the Euros - Williams performance were inconsistent. When he was good, he was a joy to watch. When he was poor, he looked like a headless chicken.

Barca dodged a bullet in signing him as well. They have Yamal and Raphina who are both miles better players.

Also Spain play in a completely different way to Arsenal, Spain wingers are given freedom to get the ball and attack defenders.

Arsenal play is more intent on keeping the ball and recycling it, then getting ball forward quickly.

Also at bilbao, most of teams Williams come up against don't play low blocks

So that's going to be another issue in the PL for a player whose decision making isn't great and goal output isn't great.

Other then saka, none of Arsenal attacks have improved consistently or gone up a level. So their is no proof that another player "with potential" is going to thrive under Arteta.

Williams would be more suited to team that plays transition based counter attacking football like Liverpool, PSG or even Villa or newcastle. Teams which look to get the ball forward quickly when playing on counter attack.

Arsenal will also have to completely change style of play if they are looking at wingers and a striker who both thrive on space in behind. Arsenal slow possession based recycling football doesn't allow for that.

Also Williams would be expected to defend and run back all time, like Martinelli has to, which would make Williams even more ineffective

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He has the rare ability which definitely unseen in the premiership where he can go past fullbacks and defenders with ease.
 
He has the rare ability which definitely unseen in the premiership where he can go past fullbacks and defenders with ease.
Massive difference when your playing teams in La liga where your not playing low blocks.

Most PL teams (outside of big 6, villa) will just set up with low blocks and Arsenal build up play is slow and ponderous.

Williams thrives on the ball being moved quickly and space in behind. So like I said he would be more suited to a Liverpool, PSG type team who play on counter attack
 
Agree. Sometimes, you have to look beyond stats. Williams for me has hugh potential. And his chemistry with Yamal and other Barcelona attackers was a joy to watch.
Spain national team complete different football to Arsenal.

Spain play fluid attack football. Also at times were happy going direct into the wingers.

Arteta plays Stoke defensive terrorist football. Which is system based.

You need to put Williams in a team which gets the ball forward quickly.
 
He has the rare ability which definitely unseen in the premiership where he can go past fullbacks and defenders with ease.
Savinho at Girona was seen as one of the best wingers in la liga whilst he was, for his direct play and going past players.

He's come to PL, played in a Pep system where wingers are asked to recycle the ball.

Like I said, playing la liga and PL is completely different.

Going from free flowing team to one which plays in a system with different asks.

You will soon see when a player is being asked to defend as well as attack, compared to just attacking.

La liga winger are usually left to just attack.

You think Arteta wudnt want Williams to track back, defend etc... the system doesn't allow for luxury players, which essentially what Williams would be.

Even look at grealish in a counter attacking villa, compared to a slower build up team like city
 
Let's be real here, we've seen numerous times in last 5 years you come up multiple lame excuses when it comes to underming other managers and their achievements, just so you can twerk for failure of the current Arsenal manager

Alonso - won league was under no pressure
Howe / Emery - it's easier to get into CL at these clubs, then it is Arsenal
Conte / Mourinho / simone / inzaghi - they play negative football
Enrique / flick - not good enough
Anchelloti - cup manager

This is sort of nonsense you come up. (Even your best mate came up with names in 2023 / 24 thread and you reeled off excuses)

Yet at same you make wild statements like

- Arteta is best young manager
- Arteta will win 2 titles in next 4 years (December 2023)

So in your delusional and clueless mind, uve put this manager on a pedestal. According to you he's going to do this, that and the other.

From your quotes and predictions, essentially your saying Arteta is at a level where he's winning titles.

Yet reality is he's won fk all in 5 years. Your lame response is he's taken Arsenal for 8th to 2nd. He's got to a CL semi.

Which has zero relevance. Why?

Because in your mind Arteta is good enough to win titles. So referring back to "rebuilding club" has no significance. A so called title winning manager is judged on winning titles

A manager good enough in your words, should be judged on winning titles.

Reality is you act like Arteta is your dad or secret lover. You don't have the balls to judge the manager, on level you think he's at.

So when you do grow a pair of balls and start being objective. Feel free to ask a question.

It's not just you who does this, there's 2 other posters that do the same.

Instead you all come up with lame excuse, which clearly shows the manager not at the level all your twerking and cheerleading likes to portray

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Massive difference when your playing teams in La liga where your not playing low blocks.

Most PL teams (outside of big 6, villa) will just set up with low blocks and Arsenal build up play is slow and ponderous.

Williams thrives on the ball being moved quickly and space in behind. So like I said he would be more suited to a Liverpool, PSG type team who play on counter attack

But Majority of the teams he played against when representing Spain automatically go in to a low block.

He alongside Yamal, Musiala have this unique ability to dribble past players with ease.
 
But Majority of the teams he played against when representing Spain automatically go in to a low block.

He alongside Yamal, Musiala have this unique ability to dribble past players with ease

Simple questions

do Arsenal move the ball as quickly as Spain when attacking?

Do Arsenal have save level of creativity as Spain in midfield?

Do Arsenal go route into their wingers when playing?

I'm talking about playing with freedom and playing in a rigid system..

Your harping on about dribbling the ball, do you see saka and Martinelli dribbling all time? Or do you see Arteta barking orders to pass the ball back and play safety 1st?
 
Savinho at Girona was seen as one of the best wingers in la liga whilst he was, for his direct play and going past players.

He's come to PL, played in a Pep system where wingers are asked to recycle the ball.

Like I said, playing la liga and PL is completely different.

Going from free flowing team to one which plays in a system with different asks.

You will soon see when a player is being asked to defend as well as attack, compared to just attacking.

La liga winger are usually left to just attack.

You think Arteta wudnt want Williams to track back, defend etc... the system doesn't allow for luxury players, which essentially what Williams would be.

Even look at grealish in a counter attacking villa, compared to a slower build up team like city

Pep has never favored direct wingers. He uses a possession based system with intense pressing. But on occasions if this doesn't work, then he unleashes Doku who has the ability to beat defenders at will.

For me Williams would be a hugh upgrade to what you have currently if Arsenal signed him.
 
Simple questions

do Arsenal move the ball as quickly as Spain when attacking?

Do Arsenal have save level of creativity as Spain in midfield?

Do Arsenal go route into their wingers when playing?

I'm talking about playing with freedom and playing in a rigid system..

Your harping on about dribbling the ball, do you see saka and Martinelli dribbling all time? Or do you see Arteta barking orders to pass the ball back and play safety 1st?

That's the point of signing players whose approach is out of the box, otherwise predictability creaps in.

These players who break the lines and go pass plsyers then create spaces for other players, which then unlocks the ability of other players.
 
Pep has never favored direct wingers. He uses a possession based system with intense pressing. But on occasions if this doesn't work, then he unleashes Doku who has the ability to beat defenders at will.

For me Williams would be a hugh upgrade to what you have currently if Arsenal signed him.

Arsenal use the same possession based system, which means you won't get best out of Williams. Martinelli is expected to run back, work hard and defend. Same goes for Williams.

You've clear stated it hinders man city wingers. Arsenal play in same fashion.

Is Williams is better than Martinelli? Yes but it's not a massive difference.

If you put Williams into Liverpool, PSG he would do well, why because he won't be asked to defend, they get ball quick and play on counter attack.

Williams is not a robotic systems player
 
Arsenal use the same possession based system, which means you won't get best out of Williams. Martinelli is expected to run back, work hard and defend. Same goes for Williams.

You've clear stated it hinders man city wingers. Arsenal play in same fashion.

Is Williams is better than Martinelli? Yes but it's not a massive difference.

If you put Williams into Liverpool, PSG he would do well, why because he won't be asked to defend, they get ball quick and play on counter attack.

Williams is not a robotic systems player

Pep has Doku, a tiring fullbacks worst nightmare. Williams for me has far better end Product and would be a big asset for Arteta similarly
 
That's the point of signing players whose approach is out of the box, otherwise predictability creaps in.

These players who break the lines and go pass plsyers then create spaces for other players, which then unlocks the ability of other players.
I get the signing of such players, but it means the manager changing style of play. Moving ball quicker etc.. and having creativity in Arsenal midfield which right now is sorely lacking.
 
Pep has Doku, a tiring fullbacks worst nightmare. Williams for me has far better end Product and would be a big asset for Arteta similarly
If Williams signed he would be starting, so where does tiring full backs come into play.

Have you even watch Williams play regularly in la liga?
 
I get the signing of such players, but it means the manager changing style of play. Moving ball quicker etc.. and having creativity in Arsenal midfield which right now is sorely lacking.

When predictability is the issue. A difference maker is paramount. Williams would be that. He would automatically get more attention as a attacker, hence more space for others
At the moment, Arsenals Attack is very predictable
 
Liverpool had PGMOL in their back pocket in this season. Even yesterday, Robertson choked Saka and it didn’t even get reviewed. It couldn’t have been a more blatant foul.

Everyone knows Liverpool is far from the best team in the league. They will barely scrape into the top 4 without Salah and the PGMOL giving them favors week in week out.

Arsenal have been shafted by refereeing corruption this season. I knew this season was going to be an uphill task after the SAF scum Howard Webb was influencing the referee from the stands.

Anyway, in addition to the above, the unlucky injuries played a pivotal role. Anyway, it is time to look forward. This season was a blip and Arsenal will be ready next season. The club will have a plan to counter PGMOL and the injury crisis, I have faith.
Honestly this must be a parody account at this point :ROFLMAO:

I feel bad for the other Arsenal fans on here because they're generally in touch with reality.

Thankfully the Premier League table isn't decided on basis of one man's fantasies, wild conspiracies and warped logic. Enjoy the race for 2nd !
 
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