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Tbh, if Arsenal get rhe victory despite playing games badly- that bodes well.

Poor performance and Utd have been unlucky
 
GOSH11 said:
Tbh, if Arsenal get rhe victory despite playing games badly- that bodes well.

Poor performance and Utd have been unlucky
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If Arsenal play like this regularly we ain't winning nothing.

Once in while you will get away with poor performances
 
That took a few years off if my life...
And I don't have that many left as it is
 
Performance was terrible but for the opening game of the season I think the result is far more important

They'll have to play better in the upcoming games as playing that badly will mostly result in dropped points
 
United played well. Cunha looked sharp and so did the maulvi, but they currently don’t have the level to beat the likes of Arsenal. The gap between the two sides is humongous.

Arsenal need to create more chances. As simple as that. Odegaard played decently apart from one or two moments where he lost possession.

Martinelli — the less said about him the better. You will find better wingers in the Championship. It is baffling to see that Arteta and Berta don’t realize that he needs to be kicked out.

Gyokeres had a quiet game but all number 9s have such games. He is going to get goals in clusters — he will score a lot of braces and hat-tricks, so fans shouldn’t get worried about him.

The real bright spark today was Zubimendi, what a fantastic midfielder.
 
I think it’s important to have some conversation on Saka as well. He has been the most reliable performer in the team for the past 4 years, but he is rapidly becoming the most boring and dull winger in the league.

You have to take risks sometimes. He always tries to play it safe and never wants to take on the full-back even though he has the dribbling ability to do so.
 
There is no creativity in midfield, yet your blind cheerleading will continue to ignore it. Merino, norgaard are other midfield options and aren't creative either

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Mamoon said:
I think it’s important to have some conversation on Saka as well. He has been the most reliable performer in the team for the past 4 years, but he is rapidly becoming the most boring and dull winger in the league.

You have to take risks sometimes. He always tries to play it safe and never wants to take on the full-back even though he has the dribbling ability to do so.
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Arteta has copied Pep when it comes to making wingers more robotic. He is to blame for this.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Gyokeres has been hooked after a 60 minute stinker

@Mamoon You were quick to lay into Wirtz, let's see if you are consistent and do the same to Gyokeres?

(Fwiw I think it's way too early to make judgements on new players but you obviously don't)
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Nope.

I would hold the same opinion if Wirtz played for Arsenal and Gyokeres played for Liverpool.

Elite number 9s often have such games. Haaland probably has 10 such matches every season, but they make up for it by scoring in clusters.

Gyokeres is gonna bag multiple braces and hat-tricks and he will also bag several such matches.

Wirtz reminds me of the Arsenal and post 2013 Germany Ozil. Wirtz has no bite to his game and he has zero physicality. If I was a Liverpool fan and had seen my club dump £100m on him while City bought Cherki for almost 60m less, I’ll be very worried.
 
Amjid Javed said:
There is no creativity in midfield, yet your blind cheerleading will continue to ignore it. Merino, norgaard are other midfield options and aren't creative either

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Creativity doesn’t come from the midfield only. Martinelli cannot control a football for dear life and he is playing in the Premier League. My 8 year old nephew has a better touch.

Saka doesn’t realize there is more to it than shielding the ball and passing it back to White.

Odegaard needs to raise his level this season but let’s not make him the scapegoat.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Told you he's 8. To be fair, rst been crap as well
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Unfortunately, he doesn't have the physicality to play as a number 8.

He gets bodied very easily and when it comes to winning the second ball, he'll win one every fortnight. Him sitting deeper would make it an even bigger disaster especially when you factor in his height and lack of pace.
 
topspin said:
Arteta has copied Pep when it comes to making wingers more robotic. He is to blame for this.
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Pep destroyed Grealish, but I don’t think we can blame Arteta for the way Saka is playing.

Grealish never nailed down his place in the starting XI properly so he has that insecurity and fear of getting dropped too, but Saka is the undisputed first choice RW so there is no reason for him to not express himself.
 
Havertz has become so much stronger. You could see it even in his short stint today.
 
If Arsenal don’t sign a winger then Madueke must start ahead of Martinelli. He cannot do worse than him. It is impossible to do worse than him.
 
Utd looked better than the tripe served up last season. Won a lot of the early duels. Mbuemo and Cunha showed enough encouraging signs.

However same old issues remain. Poor defending set-pieces and picked the one keeper even worse than Onana. He would struggle to make a top half Championship team. Ugarte was awful after coming on.

Arsenal were defensively resolute and withstood the pressure. But their XG from open play was 0.29 and dropped deeper and deeper as the game wore on. Still a 1-0 away at Old Trafford on the opening day of the season can't be sniffed at.
 
It's not about making scape goats. You harped on about Arsenal having world class depth.

So il ask a simple question where us the Creativity going to come from?

Rice is a very good box to box player in mould of a lampard / Gerrard, but he's not creative

Odegaard decision making was poor as usual today.

Zubimendi Is a deep lying ball player, which starts the attacks off, he needs others infront of him to do a job.

Merino and norgaard have zero creativity.

So we're signed a top striker who is going to feed on scraps.

We will smash leeds next week 4 or 5, but those type of games aren't the issue.

We can't have many more games like this and we had loads of these last season where creativity was poor. That's on the managers style of play.

Gyokeres will get fed of making runs and no one passing to him at the right time.

Feel free to show where the chance creation is going to come from

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topspin said:
Arteta has copied Pep when it comes to making wingers more robotic. He is to blame for this.
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Yep most wingers are boring and robotic now.

It was refreshing to see semenyo run at people all time in friday night, what wingers should actually do.
 
Amjid Javed said:
It's not about making scape goats. You harped on about Arsenal having world class depth.

So il ask a simple question where us the Creativity going to come from?

Rice is a very good box to box player in mould of a lampard / Gerrard, but he's not creative

Odegaard decision making was poor as usual today.

Zubimendi Is a deep lying ball player, which starts the attacks off, he needs others infront of him to do a job.

Merino and norgaard have zero creativity.

So we're signed a top striker who is going to feed on scraps.

We will smash leeds next week 4 or 5, but those type of games aren't the issue.

We can't have many more games like this and we had loads of these last season where creativity was poor. That's on the managers style of play.

Gyokeres will get fed of making runs and no one passing to him at the right time.

Feel free to show where the chance creation is going to come from

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That’s why I was hopeful that Arsenal should sign Eze and play him on the LW. He has the technical skills and the creativity that Arsenal are currently lacking.

Anyway, he isn’t the only player in the world. If Arsenal are passing the opportunity to sign him then hopefully they have a better plan in mind.

With Trossard very very close to exiting, the chances of Arsenal not signing anyone are close to none, so let’s not throw our toys out of the pram yet — let the window close.
 
How bout call the owners out or demand your Messiah to stop wasting on Chelsea rejects.

Martinelli, trossard, havertz, Merino all need to go and better more creative and incisive players brought in

Arsenal have no interest in eze now, as Nwaneri has signed a new contract. Ornstein even alluded to that

As far as rodrygo goes Arsenal won't pay his wages, Liverpool and Man city want him as well

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Arsenal played same way in preseason as they did today. Arsenal set up to nick games by a single goal and reliant on scoring 1st.

Style of play has to change
 
Arsenal are going to have to either hijack the Eze deal, the should be smart about it offers Palace Trossard and kiwor.

Palace im sure would take both. Espcially as Gheui is likely to leave.

Other then that Arsenal are then looking at lookman. Who let's be honest doesn't take Arsenal up a level.

Rodrygo or even xavi Simons type signings would have to see Arsenal be decisive on Transfers fee and we all know the usual haggling would just drag things out and not happen.

We are 2 players short of having a squad where we can say we are full equipped to have a full go with no excuses left for the manager

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Amjid Javed said:
Arsenal are going to have to either hijack the Eze deal, the should be smart about it offers Palace Trossard and kiwor.

Palace im sure would take both. Espcially as Gheui is likely to leave.

Other then that Arsenal are then looking at lookman. Who let's be honest doesn't take Arsenal up a level.

Rodrygo or even xavi Simons type signings would have to see Arsenal be decisive on Transfers fee and we all know the usual haggling would just drag things out and not happen.

We are 2 players short of having a squad where we can say we are full equipped to have a full go with no excuses left for the manager

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Eze ain’t happening now. Chances are almost none, he is pretty much a Spurs player already.

I agree that Lookman won’t raise the level significantly, but the good news is that would be an immediate improvement on Martinelli.

Martinelli has stunk up the place so badly that literally any new winger would be a welcome sight.
 
I can tell a quality player when I see one. That bloke no.19 is high quality. Beautiful first touch, penetrating dribbles too.

Good signing United.
 
Everyone has their personal players they will back more than others. But even so if players need to be moved on they need to be moved on.

Arteta / Berta should have been clear at start of summer and said to Trossard, Martinelli, Merino we are moving you on if decent offers came in. Same with havertz, Odegaard. There's has to be no sentiment

Arsenal had offers for Martinelli and declined, they should have sold same with trossard.

Look at man city told grealish he's no longer wanted (albeit he's on loan), even Savinho maybe sold to spurs after a year.

Arsenal should have gone in for players taking us up a level, then looked at squad fillers after.

By sounds of it, Jesus once he's back will just be used. I can't see no extra high quality player been brought in.

Just signing a lookman or someone else as slight upgrade really doesn't do anything for the team

The need for a creative player is more important than a winger.

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Arsenal have never in history of the PL come to OT and hammered united, all the wins have been 1-0.

Today was never going to be a game where we were going to smash united.

However the style of play will have to change, as we can't just depend on a good defence, set pieces or some magic moment out of somewhere.

I get feeling like 2 seasons ago Arteta is setting up trying to make Arsenal difficult to beat, then trying to forcefully win games.

We can't play like we did today at Anfield or SJP at the start of this season.
 
I kept a close eye on Madueke... I reckon I could have skipped past him. I know he's not a defender but how easy was he getting beat....Artetas guy you know
 
Markhor said:
Utd looked better than the tripe served up last season. Won a lot of the early duels. Mbuemo and Cunha showed enough encouraging signs.

However same old issues remain. Poor defending set-pieces and picked the one keeper even worse than Onana. He would struggle to make a top half Championship team. Ugarte was awful after coming on.

Arsenal were defensively resolute and withstood the pressure. But their XG from open play was 0.29 and dropped deeper and deeper as the game wore on. Still a 1-0 away at Old Trafford on the opening day of the season can't be sniffed at.
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Really concerning stat that. I don't ever want to see Arsenal with an xG of 0.29 in any PL game. Sums how poor Arsenal's creativity was.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
First game of the season. Tough fixture. You got the 3 points. Winning without playing well is a good sign.
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Agreed if it's a rare occurrence/bad day but with the likes of Martinelli and Odegaard in the front 4, I think it might end up being a recurring theme.

I thought Odegaard was the best outfield player but I still have my concerns with him. Even when his confidence is good, as it was today, we saw him overthink on a couple of occasions with that final ball and off the ball he's not great.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
First game of the season. Tough fixture. You got the 3 points. Winning without playing well is a good sign.
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I should add you guys looked very good in transitions. Man U have an excellent attack.

From what I saw today, there's an argument to be made that Man U's front 4 > Arsenal's front 4.
 
topspin said:
Really concerning stat that. I don't ever want to see Arsenal with an xG of 0.29 in any PL game. Sums how poor Arsenal's creativity was.
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I'm not fan of this XG or what ever stats they use in football.

For me the eye test tells you all you need to know. Even stevie wonder could tell you that Arsenal cudnt string any decisive passes together.

The most annoying thing today Is every time Arsenal had a chance to counter the players 1st pass is always side ways. That's down to over coaching and revision.

Get the ball play it side ways, get the ball look to see where saka is. Instead of playing ball forward. If ball was play forward you force defenders into 1 vs w duals and it makes space for others.

Then when ball was played forward you had Odegaard over hit it. Same happened with havertz on a 2 vs 2, pissed around with ball and lost it.

There is zero fluidity, and its not going to change because Arsenal are so intent in only playing the safe percentage pass.

I lost counts how many times today I shouted pass the "fkin" ball forwards

When you have merino on bench, I know norgaard wasn't in the squad. But you have zero options to change it.

Nwaneri isn't going to be used as a midfield option in these games.
 
topspin said:
I should add you guys looked very good in transitions.

From what I saw today, there's an argument to be made that Man U's front 4 > Arsenal's front 4.
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First game of the season. The home team normally is pumped, gives it the extra 10%. Having said that, agree. Mbeumo and Cunha are definitely a upgrade from last season. But with them 2 occupying the 2 10's positions behind sesko, then where does Bruno fit.
I definitely don't see bruno playing in a double pivot midfield. He's to weak on the ball.
 
MK7Z said:
I kept a close eye on Madueke... I reckon I could have skipped past him. I know he's not a defender but how easy was he getting beat....Artetas guy you know
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Left wingers job in this team is to act as a second left back. Arteta seems more intent on the left side just defending then doing anything meaningful on the ball.

Martinelli, trossard, madueke its all the same. Few fancy dribbles. You will get occasional decent goal. But it's just nowhere near good enough going forward
 
topspin said:
Agreed if it's a rare occurrence/bad day but with the likes of Martinelli and Odegaard in the front 4, I think it might end up being a recurring theme.

I thought Odegaard was the best outfield player but I still have my concerns with him. Even when his confidence is good, as it was today, we saw him overthink on a couple of occasions with that final ball and off the ball he's not great.
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Agree. Odegaard was decent. Sakah was unusually quiet. Maybe that's why your XG was down.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
First game of the season. The home team normally is pumped, gives it the extra 10%. Having said that, agree. Mbeumo and Cunha are definitely a upgrade from last season. But with them 2 occupying the 2 10's positions behind sesko, then where does Bruno fit.
I definitely don't see bruno playing in a double pivot midfield. He's to weak on the ball.
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I wouldn't start Sesko.
 
topspin said:
I should add you guys looked very good in transitions. Man U have an excellent attack.

From what I saw today, there's an argument to be made that Man U's front 4 > Arsenal's front 4.
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Cunha and mbeumo would both be better options then madueke, trossard and Martinelli

But Amorim playing mount ahead of sesko was plain dumb. Should have started him and then taken him off if he couldn't play full game

Arsenal have the better attackers overall only just.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Cunha and mbeumo would both be better options then madueke, trossard and Martinelli

But Amorim playing mount ahead of sesko was plain dumb. Should have started him and then taken him off if he couldn't play full game

Arsenal have the better attackers overall only just.
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I don't think there is much in it.

Fernandes > Odegaard

Saka just ahead of Mbeumo

Gyokeres > Sesko - but Sesko has a higher ceiling

Anyone > Martinelli
 
topspin said:
I don't think there is much in it.

Fernandes > Odegaard

Saka just ahead of Mbeumo

Gyokeres > Sesko - but Sesko has a higher ceiling

Anyone > Martinelli
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You could argue either way.

Man U are nowhere near winning the title, so this just goes to show how far our front 4 is from being title winning worthy.
 
Opening weekend win at OT feels so good.

At this point, feel bad for utd. Amorim has been.. idk they were the better side but he’s running towards his 20th PL loss already
 
Amorim is doing what Wenger was doing in his last few years — invest in attack while not bothering to improve the defense.

Maguire and Shaw in defense in 2025, Onana and Bayindir still at the club.

They have signed three attackers this summer so far and no defenders apart from an 18 year old full-back.

This is what Wenger used to do in his 10 years even though the real problem was the defense.

This is where Arteta is really good — he knows the value of a strong defense because that is what you build on and he has done it this summer with the signing of Gyok, but yes Arsenal are still one winger/wide forward short.
 
It doesn’t look like Jesus is going anywhere this summer and once he gets fit again, I think he will be worth a try on the LW. He is not a proper striker but his technique and dribbling ability are at a different level to Martinelli’s.

Maybe he can revive his career arsenal as a LW assuming the worst case scenario of a new winger not arriving before the window closes.
 
Mamoon said:
Amorim is doing what Wenger was doing in his last few years — invest in attack while not bothering to improve the defense.

Maguire and Shaw in defense in 2025, Onana and Bayindir still at the club.

They have signed three attackers this summer so far and no defenders apart from an 18 year old full-back.

This is what Wenger used to do in his 10 years even though the real problem was the defense.

This is where Arteta is really good — he knows the value of a strong defense because that is what you build on and he has done it this summer with the signing of Gyok, but yes Arsenal are still one winger/wide forward short.
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Arteta's sixth Season

Omirin's second season
 
Mamoon said:
Amorim is doing what Wenger was doing in his last few years — invest in attack while not bothering to improve the defense.

Maguire and Shaw in defense in 2025, Onana and Bayindir still at the club.

They have signed three attackers this summer so far and no defenders apart from an 18 year old full-back.

This is what Wenger used to do in his 10 years even though the real problem was the defense.

This is where Arteta is really good — he knows the value of a strong defense because that is what you build on and he has done it this summer with the signing of Gyok, but yes Arsenal are still one winger/wide forward short.
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After all the spending in the summer, they start with Mount, Casameiro, and Bayindir. Three players that we know for sure won’t be starting for utd in 5 weeks from now.
Even Shaw, de ligt and dalot might not be regular starters for utd over the course of this season. Point is Amorim doesn’t know his best team and after spending so much we’d have expected him to come in better prepared.
 
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