Arsenal FC | 2025/26 Season

[Amjid Javed]

Yeah apparently it was some fan on a wheelchair. There are pictures of him getting kicked out of the ground.

Surprised he got out of the ground without his wheels on wheelchair not been stolen

 

[Amjid Javed]

Did you not see his his ball to martinelli for saka’s goal in emirates cup final? That was one touch football. I think boys are going to click this year.

Plus there’s no direct Odegaard replacement in the squad. Time to get behind our captain.

1 pass in a pre-season game doesn't mean a player is going to change the way they play after 6 years.

Of course there is no so called replacements, because Arteta doesn't want to apply pressure to his hand puppet captain.

Liverpool have bought in a longterm replacement for Robertson, got rid of weak links like nunez, sold Diaz as he didn't want to stay. Moved in promising players like quansah and doak (in process of)

Man city have sent 100M grealish out on loan, looking to sell savinho after a season. Got rid of McAtee.

Do you see either of these side say oh no "we don't have better players" why we getting rid of them

Mean while Arsenal aren't ruthless enough to get rid of the weak links in team or dressing room because it "might damage" the dressing room.

That weak pathetic mindset at this club is why it keep falling short.

Odegaard should have been told, if yoh play like you did last season. Not only are you out of the team, but your no longer captain

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Martinelli and Jesus need to be sold

But but havertz, Odegaard and Arteta deserve support

usual double standard meat-riding for certain players

But but all the fan base is being negative



We all know who started crying in October last year

 

[Amjid Javed]

the irony of saying Arsenal fans are always crying

Boo hoo seasons over in November

Boo hoo my fireworks still cant be used

 

[Mamoon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1956424068590113149

Madueke’s shooting technique is so impressive. His potential as a goal scorer can explode at Arsenal.

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but there is no one better out there

 

[aboveandbeyond]

No he isn't. Ability wise he's one of the best two players in the side (along with Saka). I don't like Odegaard as captain but let's not his weak mentality and leadership cloud our judgement of him as a baller.

Yep. No doubt about it. His ability can never be questioned.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

But but there is no one better out there

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That is effing funny.

 

[topspin]

Surprised he got out of the ground without his wheels on wheelchair not been stolen

I was surprised no one kicked him out of his wheelchair.

When he gets his lifetime ban, I wonder if Liverpool fans will lay flowers for him

 

[Amjid Javed]

I was surprised no one kicked him out of his wheelchair.

When he gets his lifetime ban, I wonder if Liverpool fans will lay flowers for him

They probably gave an award as he left the ground, then pretend they were kicking him out

 

[Amjid Javed]

What anoyed me more than anything else last season was interviews after games from Odegaard and Arteta continually talking about performances not being up to standard, essentially calling out the rest of the squad. When your own performance, leadership and management Is substandard the calling out of others as a deflection tactic Is pathetic.

Any other club would have got rid of one if not both by now on accountability of failure.

Instead it's like watching a the footballing version of the punch and Judy show

 

[topspin]

What anoyed me more than anything else last season was interviews after games from Odegaard and Arteta continually talking about performances not being up to standard, essentially calling out the rest of the squad. When your own performance, leadership and management Is substandard the calling out of others as a deflection tactic Is pathetic.

Any other club would have got rid of one if not both by now on accountability of failure.

Instead it's like watching a the footballing version of the punch and Judy show

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True Odegaard should have focused on his own performances rather than being a spokesperson for his team as he was the one stinking out the gaff throughout last season.

 

[topspin]

Really good analysis, I just have one counter point. Odegaard, Martinelli and Arteta, the three weak links you identified have all contributed to bringing Arsenal ouf of the rut they were in. Maybe they are not the ones to take Arsenal to winning the titles but they have been instrumental in making Arsenal very very good. Arsenal have made tremendous progress under Arteta and the examples like falling short (second place) of winning epl is not a loss but a massive achievement.

Maybe I lack ambition but I am really happy with how Arsenal have done under Arteta-Kroenke-Edu(now Bertha)-Odegaard setup.

Yes they've done well to take us to top 2 but for an elite club like Arsenal with all the resources they have, we deserve better than 0 PLs and CLs during Arteta's reign.

It is a game of fine margins and our biggest weaknesses have not been addressed. Had Arsenal bought Eze and Rodrygo to start ahead of Odegaard and Martinelli and made Rice captain, I genuinely think we would have walked the league this season.

 

[topspin]

@Obaidd You need to post more, please.

Great to see another proper Arsenal fan who isn’t whining and complaining all the time.

There has to be a fine balance between blind cheerleading and being toxic/ overly pessimistic. It is understandable for most fans to lean slightly more towards the latter as Arsenal keep falling short of winning PL/CL.

 

[MK7Z]

I like the direction of your point but if he’s so ‘mentally weak’ how come Arteta hasn’t spotted that yet?

Because Arteta is a control freak and Odegaard is his eyes and ears on the pitch. He is the perfect student for Artetas pragmatic approach.

We as a team need to sometimes play freely rather than being over coached. Prime example is the rice free kick vs Real. He was told to cross it and odegaard told him to but he banged it and the rest is history.

So rather than having someone who might challenge the coach on behalf of the players Arteta would rather have someone who is a bit more timid.

As a player you can see from previous posts I rate him very highly and he is a joy to watch when on form. Last season I was probably disappointed more than most because of how much I've backed him.

Bottom line is if he picks up his form Arsenal will be a different beast. I'd rather him focus on his strengths rather than captaincy.

Rice and Gabi are natural leaders. I've seen them live a few times and they are always shouting out instructions etc.

I watch games probably different to most. I've seen countless times when there is a break in play odegaard runs to Arteta for instructions while there is a scuffle or discussion with the ref. I want my captain to grab his players and say I got this... Maybe I'm to old school

 

[Amjid Javed]

Because Arteta is a control freak and Odegaard is his eyes and ears on the pitch. He is the perfect student for Artetas pragmatic approach.

We as a team need to sometimes play freely rather than being over coached. Prime example is the rice free kick vs Real. He was told to cross it and odegaard told him to but he banged it and the rest is history.

So rather than having someone who might challenge the coach on behalf of the players Arteta would rather have someone who is a bit more timid.

As a player you can see from previous posts I rate him very highly and he is a joy to watch when on form. Last season I was probably disappointed more than most because of how much I've backed him.

Bottom line is if he picks up his form Arsenal will be a different beast. I'd rather him focus on his strengths rather than captaincy.

Rice and Gabi are natural leaders. I've seen them live a few times and they are always shouting out instructions etc.

I watch games probably different to most. I've seen countless times when there is a break in play odegaard runs to Arteta for instructions while there is a scuffle or discussion with the ref. I want my captain to grab his players and say I got this... Maybe I'm to old school

Exactly my point as well, Odegaard is just Artetas hand puppet captain.

The entire team is over coached, everything Is choreographed like its a rehearsal for a pantomime. Arteta is someone whose stats driven and believes in % and probabilities, he thinks essentially this is going to be the difference on fine margins. Rather then a risk through ball been played etc.. instructions are keep it safe and recycle the ball, why? Because managers scared of being hit on counter attack.

Manager needs to realize he ain't playing any more the self controlling on pitch has to stop. Every game as soon as their is a break in play. There is a team huddle with instructions. What the fk do these dicuss in training and in team talks if they need more instructions. Every set piece, they literally have to ask the set piece coach what to do.

It's like a computer game or like someone in a call centre having to do a job following a script rather then thinking for themselves.

Anyone wanting to harp on about team spirit or the dressing room, it's nothing more than a boarding school type group with head master controlling everything.

Also simply setting up not to lose, might work in cup football, it ain't going to win you a title.

Supposedly the players all had a vote for who should be captain. Like as though anyone of the players were going to speak up, when reality is anyone who would have done so would have more likely been dropped

This one of most mentally weak set ups ive seen at this club in over 35+ years of watching it

 

[Amjid Javed]

True Odegaard should have focused on his own performances rather than being a spokesperson for his team as he was the one stinking out the gaff throughout last season.

The one thing I don't get with some fans for example they will open call for players / coaches who fail in cricket team, boxing etc.. and will call for them to go. Then at same time when same criteria is used foe Arsenal, Liverpool, United etc. A list of excuses come out.

In team sports the principles are always same managers / coaches have to do their jobs, as do players. If they don't you simply move them on

 

[topspin]

The one thing I don't get with some fans for example they will open call for players / coaches who fail in cricket team, boxing etc.. and will call for them to go. Then at same time when same criteria is used foe Arsenal, Liverpool, United etc. A list of excuses come out.

In team sports the principles are always same managers / coaches have to do their jobs, as do players. If they don't you simply move them on

I don’t think they’ll be any excuses from anyone for both Arteta and Odegaard (as captain and player) should Arsenal fall short of the big two (PL + CL) this season - even from those who’ve been unwavering in their support for the duo.

Everyone is running out of patience. It’s make or break time now for both Arteta and Odegaard.

 

[topspin]

If Eze does up moving to spurs, that would be tragic.

I would back him to have a better season than both Odegaard and Martinelli.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Arteta has blocked this move to protect his pet.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

If Eze does up moving to spurs, that would be tragic.

I would back him to have a better season than both Odegaard and Martinelli.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Arteta has blocked this move to protect his pet.

Why would Arteta do that. When he well knows, fail to land the Title or Champions league and its curtains. With
Six seasons with the solitary FA cup and a Billion spent.

Surely you would think, he wants all the necessary tools to land the Title.

 

[MK7Z]

If Eze does up moving to spurs, that would be tragic.

I would back him to have a better season than both Odegaard and Martinelli.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Arteta has blocked this move to protect his pet.

Martinelli is another one protected by Arteta. Because he listens and you won't find other wingers put in the work rate he does.

He lacks a footballing brain but you can't question his commitment

 

[Amjid Javed]

Eze can play both wings, he can play number 10 or even as a 2nd number 8.

He would be quality in all those, unlike the poor utility players the club has signed in recent times.

Madueke will play most of the season on the left wing.

The club seems to have no interest in selling some players that are good enough, in other cases selling is difficult due to stupid wages they are on.

The fact the club were trying to extend trossard, Zinchenko contracts because of lack of buyers shows the problems at the club. Both players refused wage cuts as both are happy on high wages he was given.

 

[topspin]

Why would Arteta do that. When he well knows, fail to land the Title or Champions league and its curtains. With
Six seasons with the solitary FA cup and a Billion spent.

Surely you would think, he wants all the necessary tools to land the Title.

Because he fears without Odegaard as captainn, he'll struggle to handle the bigger personalities in the team. Look at what happened with him and Aubameyang.

As I've said before, Arteta is a fine coach but not such a great man manager.

If Odegaard does end up failing and Arsenal do lose ground on the title race this season, then Arteta will have no choice but to "gamble" (in his mind) and drop him so he can save his job.

 

[IMMY69]

Well we've had all the chat...
whose to blame, who's good and who is bad...

Now it's time to put aside differences, get behind the team and hope for the best... a do or die season is ahead of us

 

[Amjid Javed]

Score prediction time
@IMMY69
@topspin
@MK7Z

 

[IMMY69]

Score prediction time
@IMMY69
@topspin
@MK7Z

I'm going with 2-0 to Arsenal

 

[topspin]

Score prediction time
@IMMY69
@topspin
@MK7Z

2-1 win for Arsenal

 

[GOSH11]

Bro what's with this weird defending of bakwas players like Odegaard and havertz.

As the club captain he needs to lead from the front. The fact he dissapears in big games, he's rightly scape goated.

Whether others aren't performing can be discussed separately

It is simple bhai.

That guy is trying to hard to display some footballing knowledge ot pedigree, borne out of insecurity.

He has to try and go against the grain and back something to say- "I told you so"

Unfortunately, it hasn't worked thus far and he us called out for his lack of footy knowledge, no acumen at all!

 

[GOSH11]

@Obaidd You need to post more, please.

Great to see another proper Arsenal fan who isn’t whining and complaining all the time.

So, a proper fan isn't one to whine and complain?

People like AJ remember the invincibles etc. They do not wish to applaud anything less than trying to actually win the premier league etc.

I would say, the bigger issue is the soft, wannabe fans that do not actually watch a match and that have no knowledge of the game.

I'm not even a Arsenal fan!

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Because he fears without Odegaard as captainn, he'll struggle to handle the bigger personalities in the team. Look at what happened with him and Aubameyang.

As I've said before, Arteta is a fine coach but not such a great man manager.

If Odegaard does end up failing and Arsenal do lose ground on the title race this season, then Arteta will have no choice but to "gamble" (in his mind) and drop him so he can save his job.

One thing for certain. If Arteta does not Bag a Major, he's a Gonner.

 

[MK7Z]

Score prediction time
@IMMY69
@topspin
@MK7Z

We are a better side than them. I think they'll park the bus and rely on Mbeumo and Cunha to carry the ball on the counter. Bit shameful being man United and doing that 1st game of the season but it's where they are at.

Upto us to break them down and score 1st.

I'm going 3-1 Arsenal

United score 1st we are in trouble. Mind you that's any game

 

[Amjid Javed]

2-1 win for Arsenal

I'm going with 2-0 to Arsenal

I'm going 2-1 Arsenal as well, all previous wins in PL at OT have been 1-0. But I think we will conceded but we will win the game tomorrow

 

[aboveandbeyond]

We are a better side than them. I think they'll park the bus and rely on Mbeumo and Cunha to carry the ball on the counter. Bit shameful being man United and doing that 1st game of the season but it's where they are at.

Upto us to break them down and score 1st.

I'm going 3-1 Arsenal

United score 1st we are in trouble. Mind you that's any game

Or is it Arsenal Achilles heel breaking down Low block teams.

One thing for Certain. With Mbeumo sesko cunha. We got pace to burn upfront.

 

[Mamoon]

So, a proper fan isn't one to whine and complain?

People like AJ remember the invincibles etc. They do not wish to applaud anything less than trying to actually win the premier league etc.

I would say, the bigger issue is the soft, wannabe fans that do not actually watch a match and that have no knowledge of the game.

I'm not even an Arsenal fan!

Firstly, no one is talking to you, kid. Don’t interrupt and intrude.

Secondly, we all remember the Invincibles, but we also remember what happened after that.

We remember the era where finishing 4th was celebrated like a trophy and Arsenal had completely forgotten what it took to compete for the league.

Arteta has revived Arsenal as a major force in the PL and a title contender. The same fans who celebrated finishing 4th are now unhappy with finishing 2nd because Arteta raised the expectations and revived Arsenal as a title contender.

Yes he has not taken Arsenal over the line yet, but I have no doubt that he eventually will.

If he could take Arsenal from where they were to where they are now, I am convinced that he will take Arsenal from where they are now to the summit of English football, and the humble pies will taste very sweet.

 

[Obaidd]

The frustration with Odegaard makes a lot of sense because he went missing for most of last season.

Maybe I am delusional but I still want to believe in the promise of Odegaard. And certainly also because at the moment he’s irreplaceable in the xi. Arteta is not going out to get someone in his place.

Rice’s elevation to captain can make sense but not at the cost of team spirit. Maybe the best way forward is for Odegaard to himself step away from it.

But give him the credit for serving Arsenal really well and for playing his part in making Arsenal title contenders again. Let’s be real, the last three years have been the most satisfying of the last 20 years.

 

[Obaidd]

So, a proper fan isn't one to whine and complain?

People like AJ remember the invincibles etc. They do not wish to applaud anything less than trying to actually win the premier league etc.

I would say, the bigger issue is the soft, wannabe fans that do not actually watch a match and that have no knowledge of the game.

I'm not even a Arsenal fan!

Different fans have different expectations. Are we not on an upward trajectory as a club? I cherish this progress, and want to enjoy this while it lasts. Who know what lies ahead.

 

[Obaidd]

The one thing I don't get with some fans for example they will open call for players / coaches who fail in cricket team, boxing etc.. and will call for them to go. Then at same time when same criteria is used foe Arsenal, Liverpool, United etc. A list of excuses come out.

Such a good point and I admit I am guilty of this as well. I can be much more critical of Pak team compared to for Arsenal.

But honestly there is no comparison of naqvi-aqib-sumair-Rizwan setup with kroenke-bertha-arteta-odegaard hahah

 

[Obaidd]

Score prediction time
@IMMY69
@topspin
@MK7Z

We got some problems but UTD ain’t one.

 

[Obaidd]

1 pass in a pre-season game doesn't mean a player is going to change the way they play after 6 years.

Of course there is no so called replacements, because Arteta doesn't want to apply pressure to his hand puppet captain.

Liverpool have bought in a longterm replacement for Robertson, got rid of weak links like nunez, sold Diaz as he didn't want to stay. Moved in promising players like quansah and doak (in process of)

Man city have sent 100M grealish out on loan, looking to sell savinho after a season. Got rid of McAtee.

Do you see either of these side say oh no "we don't have better players" why we getting rid of them

Mean while Arsenal aren't ruthless enough to get rid of the weak links in team or dressing room because it "might damage" the dressing room.

That weak pathetic mindset at this club is why it keep falling short.

Odegaard should have been told, if yoh play like you did last season. Not only are you out of the team, but your no longer captain

I agree Odegaard was guilty of going missing but what are you seeing in preseason this time around? Same body language?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Different fans have different expectations. Are we not on an upward trajectory as a club? I cherish this progress, and want to enjoy this while it lasts. Who know what lies ahead.

Upwards trajectory?

0 trophies in 5 years
0 cup finals in 5 years?

Cherishing progress? Is this Watford or Brentford football club your talking about?

People like to exaggerate as though Arsenal were languishing in league 2 before Arteta took over.

A small football club such as Huddersfield Town (a town where I was born), might Cherish progress and making it into a PL

Arsenal are a big club, because of what they have won. But fans would rather Cherish "progress"

Proper fans of big clubs Cherish titles and cups. Like going to old Trafford on 01/02 and seeing your side win the league, a few days before seeing your team in Cardiff win an FA cup. That's sort of things you Cherish

Now people want to Cherish 2nd place finishes, it's actually Embarrassing

Until fans push the club, owners into lifting their targets, then "expectations are predictable low"

No other big club after this much time and money into a "project" which is 6 years long would be cherishing progress

This what happens when clubs PR and social media brainwash people into being happy with failure.

 

[Obaidd]

Because Arteta is a control freak and Odegaard is his eyes and ears on the pitch. He is the perfect student for Artetas pragmatic approach.

I watch games probably different to most. I've seen countless times when there is a break in play odegaard runs to Arteta for instructions while there is a scuffle or discussion with the ref. I want my captain to grab his players and say I got this... Maybe I'm to old school

These are really nice observations.
He does often run away straight after any pause to get instructions etc and reminds me of a keen student.

I think there is consensus even here that he wasn’t good enough last season. There is disagreement on way forward though.

Some folks who think they have already seen enough are saying remove from captaincy and put out of xi.

I am saying that based on the evidence that there is no direct replacement, he is very much in Arteta’s plans which leaves us with no choice but to stand behind this guy for the year.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I agree Odegaard was guilty of going missing but what are you seeing in preseason this time around? Same body language?

Pre season is there to gain fitness, also trial things you want to use in the season.

From the way Arsenal have set out to play from a tactical point of view, the ball progression and over reliance on right side of the team hasn't changed.

Only difference Is Arsenal are likely to use Zubimendi and Rice as a double pivot in midfield, whats in front of thar is slow and ponderous. You take Zubimendi out of that midfield and the level technical ability and passing quality of the rest of the midfield squad options is safety 1st. That's not going to help against low block teams

People getting carried away by 1 pass from Odegaard and 1 goal from havertz.

What matters is turning up in games that matter, not the usual looking good vs Leeds, Burnley, Sunderland etc..

Make those differences in a end of season defining game at Anfield or eithad or in a cup semi final.

Sadly a lot of fan base will do the usual over excitement after a few games, reality will kick in as season goes on

 

[Amjid Javed]

These are really nice observations.
He does often run away straight after any pause to get instructions etc and reminds me of a keen student.

I think there is consensus even here that he wasn’t good enough last season. There is disagreement on way forward though.

Some folks who think they have already seen enough are saying remove from captaincy and put out of xi.

I am saying that based on the evidence that there is no direct replacement, he is very much in Arteta’s plans which leaves us with no choice but to stand behind this guy for the year.

Why is the no choice but to stand buy him? The transfer window is still open. How about the entire fan base make the voices heard on social media, in the ground, outside of the ground and demand a new number 10 and left winger.

Before you say "we know the club won't do it"

The reason the club just meanders along is because fans aren't prepared to call these players, managers, owners out. Most other big clubs do and in some cases the changes are made.

Simply rolling over to have belly tickled and go along with clubs decisions is exactly why their is no winning mentality anywhere in the club.

There is a reason why Zidane did want this guy st Madrid. Even a lot of Norwegian international fans don't want this guy as their international skipper.

Nothing will change with skipper or manager as their is no accountability. As long as Arsenal make CL, the kronkes don't care otherwise either

 

[MK7Z]

@Amjid Javed go easy on @Obaidd

It's nice to have a fellow fan on this thread. To many ops linger. We need to stick together for when they come at us to troll

 

[Obaidd]

Pre season is there to gain fitness, also trial things you want to use in the season.

From the way Arsenal have set out to play from a tactical point of view, the ball progression and over reliance on right side of the team hasn't changed.

Only difference Is Arsenal are likely to use Zubimendi and Rice as a double pivot in midfield, whats in front of thar is slow and ponderous. You take Zubimendi out of that midfield and the level technical ability and passing quality of the rest of the midfield squad options is safety 1st. That's not going to help against low block teams

People getting carried away by 1 pass from Odegaard and 1 goal from havertz.

What matters is turning up in games that matter, not the usual looking good vs Leeds, Burnley, Sunderland etc..

Make those differences in a end of season defining game at Anfield or eithad or in a cup semi final.

Sadly a lot of fan base will do the usual over excitement after a few games, reality will kick in as season goes on

Ok so double pivot of the quick passing visionary zubimendi and the best ball advancer rice. On right we have saka whom I think you like. Gyokeres comes in as well of course.

From the current squad, martinelli and odegaard start for you?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Ok so double pivot of the quick passing visionary zubimendi and the best ball advancer rice. On right we have saka whom I think you like. Gyokeres comes in as well of course.

From the current squad, martinelli and odegaard start for you?

Yes the 4 players you mentioned all start.

The weak links are the number 10 captain and the options on the left hand side whether it be trossard or Martinelli.

So don't be shocked if madueke if playing left wing, as Arsenal haven't spent 50M for someone to be a back up. Also don't be shocked if Arsenal line up with a 4-2-3-1 with Havertz Odegaard and saka behind Gyokeres.

Arteta will find a way to force havertz into the starting 11, the fact they are showing videos of him in gym, he's Highest paid player at club and Artetas pet, means he will start most games.

Arsenal other issues will be squad rotation in midfield because the back ups Merino, norgaard are sort of honest solid players you sign when your wanting to finish top 4. Not players who are going to step in when needed and win you a title

Arsenal have one of smallest squads in PL, reality is Gyokeres is the only increase to those numbers. Rest of signings have just replaced outgoing players. So unless Arsenal are lucky with no injuries and suspensions the depth issue will be exposed.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@Amjid Javed go easy on @Obaidd

It's nice to have a fellow fan on this thread. To many ops linger. We need to stick together for when they come at us to troll

It's all good bro he's making some points and I'm just countering them, it's all good and civilised

 

[Mamoon]

Let’s be real, the last three years have been the most satisfying of the last 20 years.

This is what people don’t realize. 2022-2025 has been the best period for the club since 2006. For the first time in two decades, Arsenal have played like a proper big team that is fighting for the PL title and not just aiming to get into the top 4.

Winning domestic cups is good but it doesn’t make league failure. Wenger won 3 FA Cups in his last 4 years but Arsenal fans wanted him gone because he was failing in the league. Ten Hag win two cups in two seasons but still got the sack.

Finishing 2nd whilst competing for the league is much better than finishing 4th and winning a domestic cup.

 

[Amjid Javed]

So 2 failed title races, being humilated in domestic cups and achieving nothing in Europe. This is the most satisfying 3 years in last 20

No wonder with a failing manager, weakling captain.

Arsenal the only big club in world football which cherishes 2nd place finished and cup humiliation

Lack of standards isn't a surprise

 

[Mamoon]

So 2 failed title races, being humilated in domestic cups and achieving nothing in Europe. This is the most satisfying 3 years in last 20

No wonder with a failing manager, weakling captain.

Arsenal the only big club in world football which cherishes 2nd place finished and cup humiliation

Lack of standards isn't a surprise

“failed” title race is better than “no” title race

 

[Technics 1210]

2 failed, 1 bottled in past 3 seasons.

 

[Technics 1210]

PS. No title race is better than a bottled race.

 

[Amjid Javed]

No one cares, no one looks back in history and says oh look this team was in a title race. People only look back at who won stuff.

Challenging for title and not winning it is not to be cherished, unless you have zero standards

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Just off Topic. City look the real deal. With Rodri and possibly Foden to come back in, City look a formidable outfit

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Just off Topic. City look the real deal. With Rodri and possibly Foden to come back in, City look a formidable outfit

They also looked vulnerable on the counter

I think Wolves are a poor side so wouldn't read too much into this

Their next 4 are tough, those will show whether they will actually challenge or just have an average season by their standards

 

[Mamoon]

No one cares, no one looks back in history and says oh look this team was in a title race. People only look back at who won stuff.

Challenging for title and not winning it is not to be cherished, unless you have zero standards

We will care about “history” when this era is over. Right now, this story is still being written. Arsenal under Arteta is very, very close and I am convinced that they will do it eventually.

 

[Amjid Javed]

They also looked vulnerable on the counter

I think Wolves are a poor side so wouldn't read too much into this

Their next 4 are tough, those will show whether they will actually challenge or just have an average season by their standards

City looked vulnerable on counter last season and during summer. The new full backs like to bomb forward, so unless they gey protection, the lack of once central for City will get exposed.

Midfield looks better then last season

 

[Mamoon]

@topspin @Obaidd

 

[Technics 1210]

@topspin @Obaidd

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Is this your work?

 

[Mamoon]

Is this your work?

No, a fellow Arsenal fan shared on WhatsApp.

 

[Technics 1210]

No, a fellow Arsenal fan shared on WhatsApp.

Very skillful.

 

[Obaidd]

@topspin @Obaidd

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Oh yeah ‘Tis the season

 

[Mamoon]

@topspin @Obaidd

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[Obaidd]

Yes the 4 players you mentioned all start.

The weak links are the number 10 captain and the options on the left hand side whether it be trossard or Martinelli.

So don't be shocked if madueke if playing left wing, as Arsenal haven't spent 50M for someone to be a back up. Also don't be shocked if Arsenal line up with a 4-2-3-1 with Havertz Odegaard and saka behind Gyokeres.

Arteta will find a way to force havertz into the starting 11, the fact they are showing videos of him in gym, he's Highest paid player at club and Artetas pet, means he will start most games.

Arsenal other issues will be squad rotation in midfield because the back ups Merino, norgaard are sort of honest solid players you sign when your wanting to finish top 4. Not players who are going to step in when needed and win you a title

Arsenal have one of smallest squads in PL, reality is Gyokeres is the only increase to those numbers. Rest of signings have just replaced outgoing players. So unless Arsenal are lucky with no injuries and suspensions the depth issue will be exposed.

Everyone’s going 4-2-3-1 now and with Gyokeres in I think that’s what Arsenal will be doing this season as well.

What Havertz is doing is called professionalism. He’s following the directions of the person he’s supposed to.

The emphasis on the right side, isn’t that also an indication of how important Odegaard has been?

 

[Mamoon]

Havertz had 20 goal contributions in 36 matches last season before his season ended due to injury.

In what world is that a poor output? It is not. He gets way too much criticism. He has been a very underrated player for Arsenal and has done consistently well apart from the first 3 months of his first season where he was clearly struggling with confidence.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Everyone’s going 4-2-3-1 now and with Gyokeres in I think that’s what Arsenal will be doing this season as well.

What Havertz is doing is called professionalism. He’s following the directions of the person he’s supposed to.

The emphasis on the right side, isn’t that also an indication of how important Odegaard has been?

It doesn't emphasis the importance, just shows that the team plays in a predictable and boring fashion. The fact that most teams now just double or triple up against saka, knowing that if they keep him quite, the rest of team does nothing.

If your a so called top team you should a more balanced set up going forward

 

[Obaidd]

Gyokeres scoring his first PL goal at OT is going to be bliss

I think Cunha’s been utd’s best buy. They were obviously willing to let garnacho go for this guy plus I have seen him play at wolves, guy is really smart. Tomorrow I think he can trouble arsenal.

 

[GOSH11]

Gyokeres scoring his first PL goal at OT is going to be bliss

I think Cunha’s been utd’s best buy. They were obviously willing to let garnacho go for this guy plus I have seen him play at wolves, guy is really smart. Tomorrow I think he can trouble arsenal.

You make a good point bhai, CUnha and also Mbuemo in the pockets, playing off Sesko could be a bit of a danger but i am curious at the dynamic of Bruno and if he is to play deeper and if he had the discipline to do so, his ego might not let him.

Arsenal should cruise it, saka looks like he is on it, watching him in pre season- live at the Emirates, he was electric.

 

[GOSH11]

And Zubimendi's football IQ is top notch, I think he is going.to lift Arsenal this season, a lot will depend on injuries but Zubi is a top buy and watching him in la liga the past few years, he is an exceptional pivot.

 

[Mamoon]

And Zubimendi's football IQ is top notch, I think he is going.to lift Arsenal this season, a lot will depend on injuries but Zubi is a top buy and watching him in la liga the past few years, he is an exceptional pivot.

Arsenal did incredibly well to pull this off considering Liverpool were very close last summer and Madrid were also sniffing about. They really miss a player like him after the retirement of Kroos. Top class signing by Arsenal and incredible value for money.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Nothing but a glorified FTB, vast majority of his goals come against bottom half trash. You don't spend 65M and pay someone 270K just to turn up against average sides in PL. Even at Chelsea in PL most of his goal came vs trash teams.

We all know ul be getting over excited when he turns up vs Leeds, Burnley, Sunderland this season

 

[Mamoon]

Nothing but a glorified FTB, vast majority of his goals come against bottom half trash. You don't spend 65M and pay someone 270K just to turn up against average sides in PL. Even at Chelsea in PL most of his goal came vs trash teams.

We all know ul be getting over excited when he turns up vs Leeds, Burnley, Sunderland this season

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You don’t get extra points for beating certain teams.

Also, Arsenal’s record vs the traditional top 6 has been ezcellent over the past two seasons but it’s the lower half sides that have cost Arsenal big time.

So I would say that Arsenal could do with a so-called FTB, since most of the other players have proved ineffective vs the lower half teams which is why they keep dropping points against such teams.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Oh dear yet more bakwas from the Havertz-meat riders...

But but Havertz is underrated

Arsenal / Chelsea record

Overall 41 goals in 151 games
3 goals in 37 games vs Arsenal, City, Liverpool, United, spurs
3 Goal in 17 games vs Villa / Newcastle

35 goals have come against rest of teams in PL.

Can the retards in the face base say "flat track bully"

 

[Mamoon]

Oh dear yet more bakwas from the Havertz-meat riders...

But but Havertz is underrated

Arsenal / Chelsea record

Overall 41 goals in 151 games
3 goals in 37 games vs Arsenal, City, Liverpool, United, spurs
3 Goal in 17 games vs Villa / Newcastle

35 goals have come against rest of teams in PL.

Can the retards in the face base say "flat track bully"

I repeat — it’s these FTB matches that have cost Arsenal the title in the last two seasons. Hence, your criticism has no value.

Also, no one cares what his record at Chelsea was. That is not why Arsenal bought him.

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal took 1 point from Fulham (H/A) and W Ham (H) from a possible 9 in 2023-24, and missed out on the title by two points.

But but but goals against lower half teams have no value.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Oh dear more lame excuses, highest paid player at club and doesn't turn up in big games in PL

2 seasons ago, didn't turn up at Eithad when Arsenal drew 0-0

Drop a nice steaming dog turd in the 2-0 home defeat to villa.

Even in cups and Europe for Arsenal

This donkey is also reason Arsenal lost FA cup games to Liverpool and united.

Also same donkey that didn't turn up in Newcastle FA cup semi final.

Didn't turn up vs Bayern in CL 1/4 final.

yet your their with your pants down acting like haverz Is prime Bergkamp

world class donkey

 

[Amjid Javed]

23/24 - Arsenal were ahead of City going into the Villa games. Havertz drop a stinker and **** his pants and didn't turn up.

But but havertz Is underrated that's the game that cost Arsenal title, as it was in Arsenal hands at that point in season

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Arteta, havertz and Odegaard are world class

 

[Mamoon]

23/24 - Arsenal were ahead of City going into the Villa games. Havertz drop a stinker and **** his pants and didn't turn up.

But but havertz Is underrated that's the game that cost Arsenal title, as it was in Arsenal hands at that point in season

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Yes, Havertz is responsible for Trossard missing an open goal from a yard out and for Rice getting overrun by Villa midfield.

But but but I don’t have agenda I have high standards

 

[Amjid Javed]

West ham and Fulham dropped points in 23/24 were salvaged by Arsenal

With 6 games left. If Arsenal won all their games they were champions, but havertz and Odegaard didn't turn up vs Villa, Emery pulled Artetas pants down

That's what cost Arsenal