Amjid Javed
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1st final reached in 6 seasons, yesterday was like watching paint dry. If your going play in final like this, make sure you win it
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Agreed it wasn't a good watch - Chelsea came with an odd Game Plan and Arsenal were like fine we don't have to score. I mean obviously another goal would have sealed it but Chelsea didn't do anything. They do still have some good players in there especially midfield.1st final reached in 6 seasons, yesterday was like watching paint dry. If your going play in final like this, make sure you win it

I don't listen to him tbh especially with his narrative with the Palestine situation.Piers Morgan talks absolute Trash. Surely You Gooners can't associate with a absolute xxx end like him.
oh here we go. Liverpool fans think they invented songs at Football matches.The chant about singing in the northbank and winning the league at anfield and at the lane (twice) it is cute... feels awfully similar to what another club came up with first, albeit, the Arsenal version omits winning everything.... they need that European cup... I cannot stand Spurs + their fans keep mouthing off about winning the Europa league.
oh here we go. Liverpool fans think they invented songs at Football matches.
Ironic that your actual anthem is one from another team. Couldn't make it up.....
Agreed it wasn't a good watch - Chelsea came with an odd Game Plan and Arsenal were like fine we don't have to score. I mean obviously another goal would have sealed it but Chelsea didn't do anything. They do still have some good players in there especially midfield.
I love a good Subs bench pinch invasion celebration. It's only stuck up Premier League celebration police that whinge about it. Its very common in other leagues and International matches.
Funny how Arsenal players being told its only the league cup yet you have Fofana crying his eyes out. hahah hey Fofana its only the league cup you know.
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You are missing the point, sustained success is never a given, but setting the groundwork to have a go at it, is all you can do. Of course many factors are at play. For what it is worth, I think if fans were in the stadium, they would have made it toxic for Arteta to get through that period and he might even have been sacked.To have "sustained Sucsess" in English football whether it be Liverpool 80s, Man utd 90s / 2000s, Chelsea under abramovic, City under their owners.
All of these sides
- more money to spend then other teams
- they were seen as the most attractive team to join in the league or Europe
- the pretty much obtained all the best players
- Had world class managers
- The teams were visible head and shoulders above their peers in those eras
Now let's look at Arsenal right now,
- Are Arsenal going to outspend City or Liverpool? No! On top of that City and Liverpool are better are balancing books and it's a reason why they keep throwing money around in case of City
- Are Arsenal most attractive option in PL for players to join? For some players yes, some No. Its nowhere near the level where huge numbers of players are turning down other clubs just for Arsenal
- have Arsenal shown indication they will regularly dominate the domestic cups? No
- Have Arsenal shown indication they will dominate Europe? No, other than Real Madrid no one has shown sustained success in CL
- In regards to PL, even if Pep leaves, or slot was sacked these clubs can still attract managers like Luis Enrique, Anchelloti. Tuchel, Alonso etc. So it's not as though clubs are not going to be able to get other managers in who are top quality.
Whereas teams who had Sustained success had managers who were generational or levels above the rest. The other competing sides had decent managers at best
@Abdullah feel free to counter any of the above and exactly where sustained success is going to come from
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You are missing the point, sustained success is never a given, but setting the groundwork to have a go at it, is all you can do. Of course many factors are at play. For what it is worth, I think if fans were in the stadium, they would have made it toxic for Arteta to get through that period and he might even have been sacked.
Lets not forget the club was a laughing stock 6 years ago.
The great manager Wenger had 13 years after 2004 and did diddly squat, He spent around half a billion in his final 6 or 7 years too, so give me a break with any manager who is there for 6 years and spends money can do it.
I don't like Arsenal but opposition fans often give the best views on your manager and club.
The squad Arsenal have is streets ahead of everyone in the Prem and probably even in Europe. The defensive is pretty much impregnable with the way Arteta sets up, though it takes away from your attack. It doesnt cost you due to the corners factor which again you are streets ahead of of anyone in Europe. 28 goals to the next best in Europe being 20. You don't see 50% better than the second best in ANY metric in football.
The squad age is another HUGE factor, and experience of going close repeatedly means that once they get one over the line, it could open the floodgates. I am hoping it goes the other way and players want to leave for Real Madrid and Barcelona.
The Liverpool slot example from last season is flawed- he won it with someone else's team (a bit like Arteta and the FA Cup) but Arteta has built this from the bottom up himself.