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Arsenal manager - Is Mikel Arteta the right choice?

Arsenal manager - Is Mikel Arteta the right choice?


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I think he will go on to replace Guardiola at Man City in a season or two.
 
Asked what Arteta has brought to Arsenal since his arrival in December, Klopp said: "He has shown in a short period of time that he seems to be an exceptional football manager.

"The structure of the team he sets up is exceptional - balance between offence and defence is really good. You can see good organisation and freedom for the players, using them in the right places. He has changed the whole mood in the whole club.

"I don't think a lot of people thought at the end of the season he would finish by winning a competition and he did that by winning the FA Cup."
 
Arsene Wenger says Arsenal can win Premier League under Mikel Arteta

Arsene Wenger believes Arsenal can win the Premier League under Mikel Arteta and admits he is surprised at the level of investment in the squad in recent seasons.

Arsenal have started the league campaign with nine points from a possible 12 and are currently fourth in the table - three points behind surprise leaders Everton.

The Gunners next face Manchester City on Saturday, live on Sky Sports, and Wenger believes Arteta has enough quality in his squad to end the club's 16-year wait for the title.

"I genuinely believe yes, because he looks to have a good grip on the team," said Wenger - speaking to Geoff Shreeves at a special event for Sky VIP customers on Monday.

"They follow well, they are with him. We have bought well, spent a lot of money in the last two years. Suddenly we discovered huge resources - that was quite surprising.

"I think he has the quantity and quality of players, yes we can go for it. Why not?"

Wenger is yet to return to the Emirates since stepping down as manager at the end of the 2017-18 season and the Frenchman admits he is unsure when he will revisit his former club.

"It's not painful. I felt that it was better to take a complete distance with the club and let people get on with it," he said.

When asked how long it would be before he returned to the north London club, Wenger added: "I don't know but I don't rule it out.

"It's still my club, it's still my love. I still suffer when we don't do well and I'm happy when we do well.

"When I speak about Arsenal it's still 'we, we, we, we'."

https://www.skysports.com/football/...nal-can-win-premier-league-under-mikel-arteta
 
Mikel Arteta took full responsibility for Arsenal's 3-0 defeat at home to Aston Villa on Sunday, saying "we weren't a team".

Victory at Old Trafford last weekend was another step in the right direction under Arteta, and the Spaniard would have expected his side to build on that morale-boosting result.

However, they slipped to 11th with this defeat and Arteta wasn't impressed with what he saw.

"First of all congratulations to Aston Villa for the way they played and the victory," he told Sky Sports.

"I take full responsibility. We didn't start well enough, we got away with VAR for an offside situation but we lost all the races, the duels and we were sloppy on the ball. When we created chances we didn't hit the target. It's a really bad combination. We left spaces and on the counter we looked really vulnerable.

"I take full responsibility. I am responsible to make the team perform on the pitch and today we were not a team and it is my job. It is why I am standing here.

"It is a frustration. It takes a lot to build momentum, to build a way of being, living and performing and when something like that comes up it's a hard one to take but in a hard moment you learn more than in a positive moment and I want to see how we react."

Speaking in his press conference, he added: "I didn't see the spirit for the first time - and it's totally my fault as that's why I'm here. Today I've not managed to get the team to play at the highest level like we need to every three days.

"I'm struggling to find the reason but obviously there was something there today. They wanted it more than us. If you can't defend your box, it's a really complicated way to win football matches.

"We need to be more ruthless but today it was about how we went about the job and who we were as a team. I didn't like it from the first whistle when we got away with the goal and then afterwards. It just wasn't good enough."

Smith: Just as good as Liverpool performance
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Dean Smith was delighted with his side's performance in their win over Arsenal, particularly the defensive side of their game
The fine away victory was a real statement of intent from Dean Smith's Villa, who have now beaten Liverpool, Leicester and Arsenal this season. It's a result that lifts them up to sixth in the Premier League - with a game in hand. Win that and they would go level on points with leaders Leicester.

"Personally, I felt it was as good a performance as when we beat Liverpool 7-2," Smith told Sky Sports.

"Our work without the ball was the most pleasing aspect of it. We worked with the whole 11 to restrict a good Arsenal team.

"We looked so composed and played with such intensity with and without the ball. We were a threat whenever we went forward. It was a really top performance. The players are really excited about the win after the last two results. We were in no doubt we had to be at our best tonight."

Ollie Watkins, who helped himself to a hat-trick against Liverpool, has adapted quickly at this level - but Smith was never in doubt that the 24-year-old would swiftly make the step-up in class.

"I was always confident that he would hit the ground running," he added. "The kid's a young lad but he's played 250 games. He was a regular at Exeter and at Brentford. When you've played that number of games, you understand it. Working with better players helps him, that's for sure."

https://www.skysports.com/football/...eat-to-aston-villa-i-take-full-responsibility
 
Arsenal are in woeful form. After tonight's loss to Wolves, they find themselves in 14th place. They lack goals.
 
Arsenal are in woeful form. After tonight's loss to Wolves, they find themselves in 14th place. They lack goals.

They lack creativity in midfield and have two strikers devoid of any confidence.

At the moment it's difficult to see what Arteta is trying to achieve. His vision has blurred..
 
It would be completely dumb to sack Arteta because the board didn’t give him the signings he wanted.

He was very keen on a creative midfielder and we can see why. The board let him down by failing to sign Aouar.
 
They lack creativity in midfield and have two strikers devoid of any confidence.

At the moment it's difficult to see what Arteta is trying to achieve. His vision has blurred..

Aubameyang is devoid of confidence and chances but Lacazette is finished. He has physically declined and is not worthy of playing at this level.
 
It would be completely dumb to sack Arteta because the board didn’t give him the signings he wanted.

He was very keen on a creative midfielder and we can see why. The board let him down by failing to sign Aouar.

I like Arteta and wanted him appointed. But he has to take some responsibility. The way he has managed certain situations is very questionable and shows a lack of experience. Furthermore there is no clear style of play after a year and even when he is changing things players are not responding and they aren't working.

I'm not saying he should be sacked now but if this continues until January, he can't just get a free ride. Questions will need to be asked about his job.

He needs a couple of wins in the Premier League badly.
 
Yes he has to take responsibility, but he has not even been here a full year, and has only been able to make one big signing, who's been injured most of these losses this season.

I am as angry and frustrated about our performances as the next fan, but it was only a few months ago he transformed a team heading for relegation under Emery into an FA Cup winning side, beating 2 big teams on the way. He has a clear plan of how he wants to play, which he has shown can succeed in the biggest games that we so often get smashed in, as well as the smaller games. That is far more than you can say about an Arsenal manager in the last 5 years.

Wenger, Emery, Arteta, there is a pattern with the performances across 3 different respected football coaches. At some point we have to take a look at these players and think who can get a top 4 side out of them? Xhaka, Luiz, Bellerin, Ceballos, Willian, Lacazette. Add to that the deadwood outside the XI, like Mustafi, Cedric, Sokratis, Kolasinac and more. I'm sorry but these are very very average players, you can bring in prime Alex Ferguson and he will not take these idiots into the top 4.

This club's recruitment has been horrible, across the 3 different managers. Arteta is not the problem, we can change managers every 5 months and you will not see noticeable improvements in points tally. The issue for Arteta is the PL top 10 are so much stronger this year than in any year before.
 
Ever since [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] stated that Arteta is the next Pep.......
 
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Ever since [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] stated that Arteta is the next Pep.......

Only a fool would blame this on Arteta. He arrived in last year December and then COVID hit. He didn’t get the players he wanted in the summer and now people want him gone because he hasn’t worked miracles with a mentally weak and crap squad without even having a full season.

Pep Guardiola is currently languishing 6th with a billion dollar squad that he built from scratch. Do you think he can take this Arsenal losers to Spurs and produce a result? Some people have no patience and do not have the determination to back the right people.

If Arsenal sack Arteta today, they will be taking two steps backwards and nothing will change apart from the “new manager bounce” that almost inevitable happens but lasts about a couple of months.

Arsenal is in shambles not because of Arteta but because of the way the club is ran from the top. Where do I begin? We will be hear all day. But let me summarize.

Arsenal have wasted nearly 200m+ on frauds like Xhaka, Mustafi, Torreira, Pepe and Lacazette in the last 4 years. If this money was used wisely Arsenal would now have a proper core.

Ozil was given a huge bumper contract when he was washed up and at no point in his Arsenal career, perhaps apart from the first half of 2015-16, did he produce performances worthy of that money.

Arsenal have had a Madrid player on loan for 2 years now and there is no option to buy. And he is not even good.

Which top 6 Premier League club loans an average player for two years without even a buy clause in the contract? Why is the club wasting time on Ceballos when he has no future at this club? Arsenal is not Madrid Castilla.

Arteta wanted a creative midfielder and all the club got was a washed up Brazilian from Chelsea.

These problems go beyond Arteta and sacking him will not change anything. The next manager will also face the same problems.

Arsenal is trying very hard to become “modern” with this director of football and technical director nonsense that will not take the club anywhere. Keep it simple and relevant - back the manager with funds and let him sign the players he wants so that he can build his own team and thus be held accountable for performances.

Unless and until Arteta is not backed in the market with the players that he actually wants to buy and sell, it would be absurd to pin the blame on his head. Man United had the same problem after SAF and looks like Arsenal is heading in that direction as well.
 
Only a fool would blame this on Arteta. He arrived in last year December and then COVID hit. He didn’t get the players he wanted in the summer and now people want him gone because he hasn’t worked miracles with a mentally weak and crap squad without even having a full season.

Pep Guardiola is currently languishing 6th with a billion dollar squad that he built from scratch. Do you think he can take this Arsenal losers to Spurs and produce a result? Some people have no patience and do not have the determination to back the right people.

If Arsenal sack Arteta today, they will be taking two steps backwards and nothing will change apart from the “new manager bounce” that almost inevitable happens but lasts about a couple of months.

Arsenal is in shambles not because of Arteta but because of the way the club is ran from the top. Where do I begin? We will be hear all day. But let me summarize.

Arsenal have wasted nearly 200m+ on frauds like Xhaka, Mustafi, Torreira, Pepe and Lacazette in the last 4 years. If this money was used wisely Arsenal would now have a proper core.

Ozil was given a huge bumper contract when he was washed up and at no point in his Arsenal career, perhaps apart from the first half of 2015-16, did he produce performances worthy of that money.

Arsenal have had a Madrid player on loan for 2 years now and there is no option to buy. And he is not even good.

Which top 6 Premier League club loans an average player for two years without even a buy clause in the contract? Why is the club wasting time on Ceballos when he has no future at this club? Arsenal is not Madrid Castilla.

Arteta wanted a creative midfielder and all the club got was a washed up Brazilian from Chelsea.

These problems go beyond Arteta and sacking him will not change anything. The next manager will also face the same problems.

Arsenal is trying very hard to become “modern” with this director of football and technical director nonsense that will not take the club anywhere. Keep it simple and relevant - back the manager with funds and let him sign the players he wants so that he can build his own team and thus be held accountable for performances.

Unless and until Arteta is not backed in the market with the players that he actually wants to buy and sell, it would be absurd to pin the blame on his head. Man United had the same problem after SAF and looks like Arsenal is heading in that direction as well.

You might be right on Arteta and I agree that he needs to be backed until the season (at the very least).

But you were wrong on Raul Sanllehi and Ozil. We would have been in prime position to sign Ziyech if he we actually pursued his acquisition as he's an Arsenal fan himself. Instead we brought Pepe.

Ozil may not be the player he was at Madrid but he is still levels above any other midfielder in this team. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I can say for a fact that it isn't performance/work ethic related. Even a half fit Ozil would walk into this team.
 
You might be right on Arteta and I agree that he needs to be backed until the season (at the very least).

But you were wrong on Raul Sanllehi and Ozil. We would have been in prime position to sign Ziyech if he we actually pursued his acquisition as he's an Arsenal fan himself. Instead we brought Pepe.

Ozil may not be the player he was at Madrid but he is still levels above any other midfielder in this team. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I can say for a fact that it isn't performance/work ethic related. Even a half fit Ozil would walk into this team.

It is not hard for any creative player to be levels above others in this team. It is the least creative team in PL.

Ozil is obviously not playing because of non-footballing reasons - his fate was sealed when he criticized China on Twitter and it cost the club millions.

Arteta cannot pick him even if he wants to. Unless there is a massive injury crisis or if he gets on his knees and begs forgiveness, he will not play for Arsenal again.

However, Ozil did not deserve a £350k/week contract in 2018. With a smart transfer policy, he was easily replaceable in 2018 and he is easily replaceable in 2020.

Ozil milked the club to the bone because Sanchez was leaving and Wenger could not have a repeat of the 2011 crisis when both Fabregas and Nasri left at the same time.

But Arsenal’s financial situation in 2018 was not comparable to 2011. In 2018, the club had the resources to replace both Sanchez and Ozil without impacting the quality of the team.
 
You might be right on Arteta and I agree that he needs to be backed until the season (at the very least).

But you were wrong on Raul Sanllehi and Ozil. We would have been in prime position to sign Ziyech if he we actually pursued his acquisition as he's an Arsenal fan himself. Instead we brought Pepe.

Ozil may not be the player he was at Madrid but he is still levels above any other midfielder in this team. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I can say for a fact that it isn't performance/work ethic related. Even a half fit Ozil would walk into this team.

Mate even a half fit Nelson or Maitland Niles would have been better the Willian.
 
Arteta needs to be backed until he can build his own team. He has inherited a dysfunctional squad and several signings have been forced on him.

He should be given the January window as well as the summer window and any discussion of him getting sacked should be off the table at least until the end of 2021-22 season.

If Arsenal refuse to be patient now they will end up with 4 different managers in 4-5 years with the team making no progress.
 
Arteta needs to be backed until he can build his own team. He has inherited a dysfunctional squad and several signings have been forced on him.

He should be given the January window as well as the summer window and any discussion of him getting sacked should be off the table at least until the end of 2021-22 season.

If Arsenal refuse to be patient now they will end up with 4 different managers in 4-5 years with the team making no progress.

I don't think anyone is asked for him to be sacked.

He just needs to back a few more of the youngsters especially for the likes of Willian.
Also, Partay should never have started yesterday, maybe on the bench but thats it.
 
I don't think anyone is asked for him to be sacked.

He just needs to back a few more of the youngsters especially for the likes of Willian.
Also, Partay should never have started yesterday, maybe on the bench but thats it.

I worry about Partey. Great player with a relatively injury free career for Atletico. However, it seems like the Arsenal curse has struck him and he is turning into another crock at this club.

He is the player Arsenal have desperately needed for 15 years. He cannot be wasted because of injuries.
 
At least Spurs love Arteta.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Dier says under-fire Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta is Europe's best young manager <a href="https://t.co/0LfJy60CQu">https://t.co/0LfJy60CQu</a></p>— Mirror Football (@MirrorFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1334132314415247360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mourinho has offered his 'praise' to Arsenal's Arteta after derby win 😏<br><br>"I want to give words, congratulations to Mikel Arteta because he gave us a very difficult game. Tactically they were very good, very organised. They gave us problems, problems we were able to resolve." <a href="https://t.co/3vKPYdNJZJ">pic.twitter.com/3vKPYdNJZJ</a></p>— Goal (@goal) <a href="https://twitter.com/goal/status/1335788875084607490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
At least Spurs love Arteta.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Dier says under-fire Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta is Europe's best young manager <a href="https://t.co/0LfJy60CQu">https://t.co/0LfJy60CQu</a></p>— Mirror Football (@MirrorFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1334132314415247360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mourinho has offered his 'praise' to Arsenal's Arteta after derby win &#55357;&#56847;<br><br>"I want to give words, congratulations to Mikel Arteta because he gave us a very difficult game. Tactically they were very good, very organised. They gave us problems, problems we were able to resolve." <a href="https://t.co/3vKPYdNJZJ">pic.twitter.com/3vKPYdNJZJ</a></p>— Goal (@goal) <a href="https://twitter.com/goal/status/1335788875084607490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That post-match Mourinho interview screamed "it's okay kid we're all winners!". So painful.
 
Thomas Partey: Mikel Arteta critical of injured Arsenal midfielder leaving the field

Mikel Arteta accused Thomas Partey of failing to grasp the gravity of the situation after he left the field injured in the build-up to Tottenham's crucial second goal in Sunday's north London derby.

After Heung-Min Son's stunning long-range strike had given Spurs the lead on the counter at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, Arsenal were hit by another break in first-half stoppage-time as the injured Partey vacated midfield and allowed Harry Kane to double the lead.

Arteta was seen attempting to push Partey back onto the field moments before Kane rifled Spurs into an insurmountable lead, and the Gunners boss admitted his player was in the wrong to leave the pitch.

"Thomas is out, he's limping, he's in pain, he has to come off and we lost a man in that crucial transition moment," Arteta told Sky Sports. "He has to fall on the floor.

"I wanted him on the pitch, doing whatever he could for the team in that situation. No one expected him not to be in that position."

Speaking in his post-match press conference, Arteta added: "I was trying to push him back on the pitch, I don't think he realised the gravity of the situation when he left his position.

"That was probably because he was in a lot of pain. There is nothing we can do at the moment to resolve that."

Asked if he was frustrated or annoyed with Partey's exit, Arteta replied: "It was too quick, we were through, I think it was a four-against-three situation for us to play the final ball and we were through. Suddenly they were coming to us and Thomas is walking to me and I am trying to push him.

"I haven't spoken to him. I don't know exactly how it happened and if he felt something really serious. I will look at it and we will talk about it."

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-injured-arsenal-midfielder-leaving-the-field
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], I love Arteta but if current results and performances continue he will be in trouble. You can't have continued performances and results like this and just blame everyone apart from Arteta. He is making changes tactically and in terms of selection and it is not working.

He needs to get a couple of results asap.
 
It is not hard for any creative player to be levels above others in this team. It is the least creative team in PL.

Ozil is obviously not playing because of non-footballing reasons - his fate was sealed when he criticized China on Twitter and it cost the club millions.

Arteta cannot pick him even if he wants to. Unless there is a massive injury crisis or if he gets on his knees and begs forgiveness, he will not play for Arsenal again.

However, Ozil did not deserve a £350k/week contract in 2018. With a smart transfer policy, he was easily replaceable in 2018 and he is easily replaceable in 2020.

Ozil milked the club to the bone because Sanchez was leaving and Wenger could not have a repeat of the 2011 crisis when both Fabregas and Nasri left at the same time.

But Arsenal’s financial situation in 2018 was not comparable to 2011. In 2018, the club had the resources to replace both Sanchez and Ozil without impacting the quality of the team.

I agree we shouldn't have got Ozil that contract and that's where we went horribly wrong and looking back at it now, we would have been better off offloading Ozil (in addition to Sanchez) but also please appreciate that this is all very easy to say in hindsight.

I don't know if you know but a few of our ex-players (in Merson, Tony Adams, Ljungberg and Wilshere) have recently come out and openly pleaded for the club to play Ozil.

Ozil was playing well before lockdown happened. I don't know what happened after that.

I've been watching Arsenal avidly since 2000 and whilst Ozil is more than just bad at his weaknesses (as you say) there aren't many I've seen who are better than him at Arsenal when it comes to producing assists and ball distribution overall.

We need Ozil back and if it was up to me I would renew his contract but half his wages and apologise for the treatment he has received from the current regime.
 
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Time for Arteta to make up with Ozil and get him back in the team.
 
Mate even a half fit Nelson or Maitland Niles would have been better the Willian.

I don't know what it is about our club's obsession about buying washed up Chelsea leftovers. First it was Cech then it was Luiz and now it's Willian.
 
Arsenal fan TV is hillarious.

From a Liverpool fan, Arteta is simply not good enough for Arsenal. 3rd most succesful club in English history deserves a manager who has experience and won something.

Get rid of him and get in someone more experienced. Poch has won nothing much either but would be be better than him.
 
Time for Arteta to make up with Ozil and get him back in the team.

Can't do that. How are you going to leave a player out completely, tell the world it's for footballing reasons and then bring him back? Arteta will lose the dressing room if he does that. He needs to stick with his decision now.
 
I was never in favour of bringing someone who was inexperienced and without a proven track record.

Arsenal fans need to realise that we cocked up by opting for him over Mourinho who has undoubtedly done wonders at Spurs.

Arsenal board proving yet again why it is the worst run football club in the whole PL.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]
 
I was never in favour of bringing someone who was inexperienced and without a proven track record.

Arsenal fans need to realise that we cocked up by opting for him over Mourinho who has undoubtedly done wonders at Spurs.

Arsenal board proving yet again why it is the worst run football club in the whole PL.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]

I would have been happy with Mourinho if the club decided to go for someone experienced, but we need to understand why he is doing well at Spurs.

Spurs have a very good squad and they have two world class players (Kane and Son) who are levels above what Arsenal have at the moment.

Let’s not forget that the same bunch of players took Spurs to the UCL final few months before Mourinho arrived.

They underperformed in Poch’s last season because he had lost the dressing room and the team spirit died down after the UCL final. They needed a change, and Mourinho was the right fit because he has a proven track-record with good teams.

You give Mourinho a good squad and he rarely underperforms. He would definitely win something with this bunch unlike Poch.

However, Mourinho at Arsenal would have struggled just like he did at United and got sacked.

Similarly, Arteta would also produce better results if you give Spurs’ squad.
 
I was never in favour of bringing someone who was inexperienced and without a proven track record.

Arsenal fans need to realise that we cocked up by opting for him over Mourinho who has undoubtedly done wonders at Spurs.

Arsenal board proving yet again why it is the worst run football club in the whole PL.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]

I think it was worth the risk. Arteta is highly rated as a manager. He has man managed some issues poorly but the overall squad is really poorly balanced and lacks quality in midfield. It is a difficult job for your first one.

I would look at shifting players before thinking about sacking Arteta. And this seems to be the way the Arsenal board is thinking.
 
I was never in favour of bringing someone who was inexperienced and without a proven track record.

Arsenal fans need to realise that we cocked up by opting for him over Mourinho who has undoubtedly done wonders at Spurs.

Arsenal board proving yet again why it is the worst run football club in the whole PL.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]

Also even if Arsenal sack Arteta, I don't see them appointing Allegri or Pochettino who are available. And after those 2 there aren't any elite managers who are available or want to join Arsenal. At least with Arteta there is a chance he can become a top manager if he is backed.
 
Arsenal chief executive Vinai Venkatesham has backed under-fire manager Mikel Arteta to turn the Premier League club's fortunes around after a dismal start to the season.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], for whatever reason you haven't replied to my quotes to you on Arteta.

I like Arteta and agree that he needs transfer windows and fine to improve us. But if current results continued for another month or so, would you still stick with Arteta?

Also aren't you worried about how he has managed certain situations? I won't get into the Ozil situation but his treatment of Saliba and dismissal of Guendozi over 1 falling out is not great man management. I also don't like how he has treated Ainsley Maitland-Niles who is a better footballer than Hector Bellerin.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], for whatever reason you haven't replied to my quotes to you on Arteta.

I like Arteta and agree that he needs transfer windows and fine to improve us. But if current results continued for another month or so, would you still stick with Arteta?

Also aren't you worried about how he has managed certain situations? I won't get into the Ozil situation but his treatment of Saliba and dismissal of Guendozi over 1 falling out is not great man management. I also don't like how he has treated Ainsley Maitland-Niles who is a better footballer than Hector Bellerin.

Yes, I will stick with Arteta because I don’t think that any manager in the world right now can turn things around at Arsenal without getting proper investment in the market.

You give Klopp this Arsenal team and he will do what he did in his first season at Liverpool - finish 8th.

Also, people need to calm down a bit. Arsenal will not get relegated and not finish 13-14th. They will still make the top 8 along with Leicester and Everton and of course the other members of the big 6.

Arsenal have two choices: sack Arteta now, and end up with 3-4 managers in 3-4 years with almost no improvement, and this is what happened at United.

Or they can stick with Arteta, have faith in his credentials and see where he takes the team after 2-3 proper windows.

In my opinion, any talks of sacking Arteta should be off the table until the end of next season. He deserves the January window the summer window and the full season next year. By then, he will be in a position where he could be held accountable because the squad will have his imprints.

Arteta has been around for a year now, but within a few months, COVID hampered football and he wasn’t backed in the market, and now in his first full season people want him sacked even though it is only December.

You sack him now, you will get a new manager bounce which will create false hopes, and then normal business will resume next season if the new manager is not backed in the window.

Saliba was overhyped to the moon by Arsenal fans who thought they had signed the next Varane who would hit the ground running from day 1. Even though, no one knew anything about him apart from a few YouTube clips.

Now that he hasn’t become first choice under Arteta from day 1, people think he has been mistreated.

When he was loaned back to St. Ettienne last season, he missed a huge chunk of the campaign because of injury.

He is yet to have one full campaign as a starter and play 30+ matches and Arsenal fans think he is ready to start in the PL or Europa.

Arteta watches him in training every day. He is clearly not impressed what he has seen. I see nothing wrong with loaning him out for a season or at least half a season where he can play regularly.

Guendouzi is a headless chicken who plays with no discipline and has a bad attitude. Loaning him out to a German club is far from the worst thing that could have happened to him. If he does well he can be a starter at Arsenal next season. If not, he can be loaned again or sold.

The midfield will see a lot of activity in the next two windows. Ceballos will finally leave, one of Xhaka/Elneny will also head for the exit door, Torreira will not come back and there will be some signings as well. If Guendouzi proves himself he will get a chance.

Maitland-Niles is an average footballer who is not good enough to start in any position. However, he is a useful squad player who can cover multiple positions.

At the moment, it doesn’t matter if he or Bellerin starts - it is a position that needs to be upgraded.

Bellerin is decent, but he had the potential to be one of the best RB in the world before he caught with all the fashion, veganism and other nonsense social activism stuff that is hampering his football career.

If Arsenal can recoup 15-20 million for him, it will be good business. Perhaps he can be sold more. After all, the club scammed Everton into paying £40m for Iwobi.
 
Yes, I will stick with Arteta because I don’t think that any manager in the world right now can turn things around at Arsenal without getting proper investment in the market.

You give Klopp this Arsenal team and he will do what he did in his first season at Liverpool - finish 8th.

Also, people need to calm down a bit. Arsenal will not get relegated and not finish 13-14th. They will still make the top 8 along with Leicester and Everton and of course the other members of the big 6.

Arsenal have two choices: sack Arteta now, and end up with 3-4 managers in 3-4 years with almost no improvement, and this is what happened at United.

Or they can stick with Arteta, have faith in his credentials and see where he takes the team after 2-3 proper windows.

In my opinion, any talks of sacking Arteta should be off the table until the end of next season. He deserves the January window the summer window and the full season next year. By then, he will be in a position where he could be held accountable because the squad will have his imprints.

Arteta has been around for a year now, but within a few months, COVID hampered football and he wasn’t backed in the market, and now in his first full season people want him sacked even though it is only December.

You sack him now, you will get a new manager bounce which will create false hopes, and then normal business will resume next season if the new manager is not backed in the window.

Saliba was overhyped to the moon by Arsenal fans who thought they had signed the next Varane who would hit the ground running from day 1. Even though, no one knew anything about him apart from a few YouTube clips.

Now that he hasn’t become first choice under Arteta from day 1, people think he has been mistreated.

When he was loaned back to St. Ettienne last season, he missed a huge chunk of the campaign because of injury.

He is yet to have one full campaign as a starter and play 30+ matches and Arsenal fans think he is ready to start in the PL or Europa.

Arteta watches him in training every day. He is clearly not impressed what he has seen. I see nothing wrong with loaning him out for a season or at least half a season where he can play regularly.

Guendouzi is a headless chicken who plays with no discipline and has a bad attitude. Loaning him out to a German club is far from the worst thing that could have happened to him. If he does well he can be a starter at Arsenal next season. If not, he can be loaned again or sold.

The midfield will see a lot of activity in the next two windows. Ceballos will finally leave, one of Xhaka/Elneny will also head for the exit door, Torreira will not come back and there will be some signings as well. If Guendouzi proves himself he will get a chance.

Maitland-Niles is an average footballer who is not good enough to start in any position. However, he is a useful squad player who can cover multiple positions.

At the moment, it doesn’t matter if he or Bellerin starts - it is a position that needs to be upgraded.

Bellerin is decent, but he had the potential to be one of the best RB in the world before he caught with all the fashion, veganism and other nonsense social activism stuff that is hampering his football career.

If Arsenal can recoup 15-20 million for him, it will be good business. Perhaps he can be sold more. After all, the club scammed Everton into paying £40m for Iwobi.


I want to stick with Arteta but it is worrying that he is making formation changes and trying different players and we are still losing and failing to create. You look at other teams in the Premier league who have worse squads than us and they are playing much better football. So if current results continue, the board will have a serious decision to make.

Saliba was hyped for a reason. In France he was rated highly and by people who coached him. He actually had more experience of top flight football than Gabriel. Surely he can't do worse than Mustafi and Holding. Saliba is better than both on the ball and he as recovery speed which neither of those 2 have.

Guendouzi has a bad attitude but he is 21 years old. Isn't it the job of the coach to coach this guy and teach him some positional play? At City he helped Rodri and Fernandinho, why can't he do the same for Guendouzi? We haven't heard Guendouzi side of things so you can't just blame it all on him.

Disagree completely on Maitland Niles. He is a very good footballer. Arteta wanted to use an inverted RB at the start of his reign. This is a perfect role for Maitland Niles but then Arteta disposes of him for weeks after a few games. Then after lockdown he brings him back, gives him some responsibility and trust and you see great performances from him. This is what some players need to thrive.

Let's also not forget how Willian went to Dubai when he shouldn't have and played the next game. Imagine if that was Pepe or Maitland Niles. Arteta would have been much harsh in his punishment. It seems as though his none negotiables apply to different players and others can do what they want.

Right now you are blaming everyone else apart from Arteta. Yes he needs time,but these man management issues are extremely concerning.
 
Hope Arteta watched this.

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I get that he wants to try and play attractive football against the bigger teams because it’s the “arsenal way” but surely he must realise he doesn’t have the resources for that just yet.
 
Embarrassing 1-0 loss to Burnley at home.

Arteta will be gone soon regardless of the project and assurances - his results have been not good enough.
 
Yes. I believe he is going to be an absolutely brilliant manager. If the Arsenal board give proper backing, I see him making Arsenal a major force again. I am very glad that they didn’t settle for a washed up, past it manager like Ancelotti.

Experience is overrated. If you are good enough, you are good enough. If not, you can manage a 1,000 matches and you will still struggle.

Please tell us more :)))
 
Arteta is the worse manager in the history of EPL

cant belive arsenal fans compared him to ole,:))) he makes ole look like sir alex Ferguson.

Mamoon will obviously support anything wrong, when mamoon jumps left this is clear indication its time to go right. :)))

I have never seen such a bad man manger in my life. Hes taking Arsenals best players and running them down in the ground, there was a time when arsenal fans feared they'll Guendouzi only for RM or Barca to come calling, now hes gone, he had the EPLs most inform and best striker and has turned him into another Welbeck. You can give this guy messi and ronaldo and he'll have them playing like theo walcot and dele ali

Just compare arsenal and tottenham now, when this guy took over arsenal and spurs had pretty much equal sides, average team with a great striker and you look were mourinho has taken spurs and arsenal are now heading to the championship.

hes a Spainish Allydace, but even worse.

Arsenal should take my advise and bring back Arsene Wenger, like i said at the time emery was sacked, a break is all great individuals need to get back to there best.
 
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Arteta has been shocking ...

Remember Emery got this side to 5th ...the players considered deadwood weren’t this bad ...

Look how awful the football is ...it’s all crossing from deep...when have this side ever unlocked a defence ...they are so easy to play against ...

The Saliba situation is a farce...to such an extent that Saliba and Guendouzi are mocking Arteta online ...how is it that a player who was considered better than Fofana can’t displace Holding?...

I remember how Jack tore Bellerin a new one...the guy is consistently atrocious yet Cedric can’t get a game...

Two holding players for a game against Burnley lol...

The whole Ozil thing is a mess...while my personal opinion is he’s been banished cos of the China thing Arteta has said its for footballing reasons...Ozil would walk into this shambles of a team ...

And why will players sign for this club now?...Szob has already confirmed he will be joining Leipzig instead of Arsenal ...what quality players are going to want to join this sinking ship?...

And herein lies the question ...which manager is going to want to be involved with this...Allegri, Poch are not joining a club to fight a relegation battle...and that might well save Arteta ...
 
Arsenal deserve this humiliation.

The time for penny pinching on each player position and manager are costing this club everything! Avoid relegation and to all out in the Europa league now.

Please ensure the services of Allegiri and just give the guy a blank chequebook for crying out loud!
 
Arsenal deserve this humiliation.

The time for penny pinching on each player position and manager are costing this club everything! Avoid relegation and to all out in the Europa league now.

Please ensure the services of Allegiri and just give the guy a blank chequebook for crying out loud!

Why would Allegri come to Arsenal?...

Also the non-spending thing is a broken record...Pepe was 75m...Saliba was 30m...Mustafi was 35m...

Arsenal spend and being a desperate club also negotiate silly contracts which is why they find players impossible to shift...Bellerin makes more money than Grealish...Mustafi is on the same salary as Maddison ...

They do things like offer 3 year contracts to Willian and Auba with inflated wages...

The worst example of their let’s buy mercenaries approach was Partey...he was on 47k a week at Atletico ...no-one bid on him except Arsenal yet his agent sorted a deal of 250k a week and a £5m agents fee...

If there is one thing this board is shocking at it is identifying players and negotiating contracts...the amount of deadwood grows season on season...
 
Why would Allegri come to Arsenal?...

Also the non-spending thing is a broken record...Pepe was 75m...Saliba was 30m...Mustafi was 35m...

Arsenal spend and being a desperate club also negotiate silly contracts which is why they find players impossible to shift...Bellerin makes more money than Grealish...Mustafi is on the same salary as Maddison ...

They do things like offer 3 year contracts to Willian and Auba with inflated wages...

The worst example of their let’s buy mercenaries approach was Partey...he was on 47k a week at Atletico ...no-one bid on him except Arsenal yet his agent sorted a deal of 250k a week and a £5m agents fee...

If there is one thing this board is shocking at it is identifying players and negotiating contracts...the amount of deadwood grows season on season...

Who else would you have besides a proven manager who can work with world class players? Arsenal messed up when they had the opportunity to sign Mourinho and Ancelotti. I’m afraid Arteta is in a deeper hole then he can fathom. How can a club like Arsenal lose 4 games at home in a row to nobodies?? How can Arsenal players produce 2 red cards in the space of 3 games where the players have no control over their emotions??

This is what happens when you make an ex team mate the club manager! A bit like making the 6th form head to become the year 11 captain. A £350k a week player is basically being allowed to earn money for nothing and this guy is the reason! He is so rubbish that he could not even off-load him during the summer anywhere else

We’ve tried all of these bargain hunt approaches. It is time to really go hard now! Arsenal’s star signings are hardly £75m and Liverpool are buying Goal Keepers, centre backs at that price who are now worth double that value!

How is a defender like Van Dijk not worth £150m right now in the market? Clearly the head of talent acquisition is a complete joke who wants to find Randoms and make them look far better than they are. Sanchez was our best ever signing tbh, since then we have had no clue on how to spend money.

They need a player/match winner of Neymar, Mbappe, Salah, De Bruyne or someone of this quality to lift this squad.
 
Who else would you have besides a proven manager who can work with world class players? Arsenal messed up when they had the opportunity to sign Mourinho and Ancelotti. I’m afraid Arteta is in a deeper hole then he can fathom. How can a club like Arsenal lose 4 games at home in a row to nobodies?? How can Arsenal players produce 2 red cards in the space of 3 games where the players have no control over their emotions??

This is what happens when you make an ex team mate the club manager! A bit like making the 6th form head to become the year 11 captain. A £350k a week player is basically being allowed to earn money for nothing and this guy is the reason! He is so rubbish that he could not even off-load him during the summer anywhere else

We’ve tried all of these bargain hunt approaches. It is time to really go hard now! Arsenal’s star signings are hardly £75m and Liverpool are buying Goal Keepers, centre backs at that price who are now worth double that value!

How is a defender like Van Dijk not worth £150m right now in the market? Clearly the head of talent acquisition is a complete joke who wants to find Randoms and make them look far better than they are. Sanchez was our best ever signing tbh, since then we have had no clue on how to spend money.

They need a player/match winner of Neymar, Mbappe, Salah, De Bruyne or someone of this quality to lift this squad.

Ozil is most certainly not rubbish...the better question is who would meet his 350k a week salary which he has every right to sit on ...

On Ozil I really don’t know if it’s Arteta’s fault...I’ve said before that I think exiling Ozil is an executive decision cos of him pissing off China...but then again who knows...for the life of me I can’t understand what’s happening with Saliba...he’s also made man management mistakes with Guendouzi ...these two are both very talented players who are not currently playing ....

The problem with Arsenal is thinking above their station and I don’t mean this to be rude...you’re a Europa team and have been for 5 seasons...consequently your main attraction is the CL wages you offer...

And elite players or top prospects will go elsewhere either cos those clubs can match arsenal for salary or they want a higher standard of football...Szob chose Leipzig for example...there is no way Aouar comes now and if he does it’s cos you offer 350k a week...is that the type of player you want?...

Where you did do penny pinching was you didn’t get a top manager post Emery...Spurs did and it’s showing ...but the thing is now would a Poch want to come to Arsenal now?...it may sound silly but someone like Moyes would be excellent for you in your current situation ...knows how to deal with a difficult board, is a good coach who has a clear style of play ...he’s overachieving with West Ham...the star managers are out of your reach imo...
 
Ozil is most certainly not rubbish...the better question is who would meet his 350k a week salary which he has every right to sit on ...

On Ozil I really don’t know if it’s Arteta’s fault...I’ve said before that I think exiling Ozil is an executive decision cos of him pissing off China...but then again who knows...for the life of me I can’t understand what’s happening with Saliba...he’s also made man management mistakes with Guendouzi ...these two are both very talented players who are not currently playing ....

The problem with Arsenal is thinking above their station and I don’t mean this to be rude...you’re a Europa team and have been for 5 seasons...consequently your main attraction is the CL wages you offer...

And elite players or top prospects will go elsewhere either cos those clubs can match arsenal for salary or they want a higher standard of football...Szob chose Leipzig for example...there is no way Aouar comes now and if he does it’s cos you offer 350k a week...is that the type of player you want?...

Where you did do penny pinching was you didn’t get a top manager post Emery...Spurs did and it’s showing ...but the thing is now would a Poch want to come to Arsenal now?...it may sound silly but someone like Moyes would be excellent for you in your current situation ...knows how to deal with a difficult board, is a good coach who has a clear style of play ...he’s overachieving with West Ham...the star managers are out of your reach imo...

The star managers look out of our reach but this is still a prestigious club and the fan base is one of the most passionate in London. There are still more Arsenal fans in London even though Chelsea has been the better side for over 12-13 years. All is not lost, but they should now do what they can to get Allegeri for the money he wants, plus give him the budget he wants to get that side he needs. We are in no position to experiment anymore, the experiments have all failed. It is sad to see Arsene Wenger not being given this kind of money that was afforded to Emeri and to some extent Arteta. He did wonderfully well considering he was allowed to make one marque signing (£30-40M) at an average of once every 7-8 years during his reign.

If Allegeri or Poch are available, these two should be our prime targets and let’s not risk it with guys like Moyes. Arteta was a huge gamble and it is not working at all now.
 
The star managers look out of our reach but this is still a prestigious club and the fan base is one of the most passionate in London. There are still more Arsenal fans in London even though Chelsea has been the better side for over 12-13 years. All is not lost, but they should now do what they can to get Allegeri for the money he wants, plus give him the budget he wants to get that side he needs. We are in no position to experiment anymore, the experiments have all failed. It is sad to see Arsene Wenger not being given this kind of money that was afforded to Emeri and to some extent Arteta. He did wonderfully well considering he was allowed to make one marque signing (£30-40M) at an average of once every 7-8 years during his reign.

If Allegeri or Poch are available, these two should be our prime targets and let’s not risk it with guys like Moyes. Arteta was a huge gamble and it is not working at all now.

You can provide a budget but can you attract the players?...

If this was one season of mediocrity then maybe but you’re on a downward trajectory...5th-8th-fighting relegation ...

You have an unambitious board...

Things like history, fanbase and stadium don’t really rank highly when a player chooses a club...

A player would still choose Chelsea over you and Spurs and for a lower salary than what you offer...

And that’s the thing there are no easy fixes here...even if your new manager is given a huge war chest ...being manager of Arsenal is starting to look like a poisoned chalice...Emery was not a bad manager at all for example...
 
Yes. I believe he is going to be an absolutely brilliant manager. If the Arsenal board give proper backing, I see him making Arsenal a major force again. I am very glad that they didn’t settle for a washed up, past it manager like Ancelotti.

Experience is overrated. If you are good enough, you are good enough. If not, you can manage a 1,000 matches and you will still struggle.

Im willing to agree with everything you said but calling Ancelotti "washed up, past it" is uncalled for.

He has won everything everywhere he has gone and definitely looking a lot better than Arteta right now..

Everton are not a top club but Ancelotti is still getting the best out of them..
 
I’ll add as well that the treatment of Guendouzi is shocking man management...

If there’s one thing you can’t say for him is that he doesn’t care...which you can for some of the other players ...he’s got a lot of personality...I like how he stands up for his teammates, his combative nature...he’s not lacking motivation...

Certainly a difficult personality and that was mentioned from his time at Lorient and what’s required is a manager who can nurture him...not simply throw him away which is what has been done...he’ll be a success elsewhere imo ...and it’s a shame for Arsenal that Arteta can’t manage personalities...

The Saliba thing is an absolute farce as well...a player arguably more talented than Fofana has for some unknown reason been shunned...

The way some of the potential young players have been managed has been atrocious...
 
You can provide a budget but can you attract the players?...

If this was one season of mediocrity then maybe but you’re on a downward trajectory...5th-8th-fighting relegation ...

You have an unambitious board...

Things like history, fanbase and stadium don’t really rank highly when a player chooses a club...

A player would still choose Chelsea over you and Spurs and for a lower salary than what you offer...

And that’s the thing there are no easy fixes here...even if your new manager is given a huge war chest ...being manager of Arsenal is starting to look like a poisoned chalice...Emery was not a bad manager at all for example...

Emery was rubbish - the 6-1 defeat to Barcelona should have had the alarm bells ringing to the Arsenal Board before they signed him ..

Should have pushed harder to get Ancelotti or Allegri..
 
Please tell us more :)))

Arteta will be be one of the best managers in the world. He is being let down by a dysfunctional squad with pathetic mentality. This is the most unlikable Arsenal squad ever. A bunch of entitled, average footballers with no work ethic and discipline.

If the board have no patience and make Arteta a scapegoat it will be their loss in the long run. If not at Arsenal he will end up proving his worth at another club. Right now, no manager in the world can sort the hot mess that Arsenal is without proper investment in the market.

If Arsenal sack him City will still look at him as a potential successor to Pep. They worked him with for 3 years, they saw what he is capable of, how much he helped players like Sterling and Sane and how his in-game management influenced Pep as well.

In 2017-18 and 2018-19, City scored a lot of goals with cutback crosses, and it was Arteta who came up with that idea. It is just one example of his influence at City which armchair critics do not see.

Pep is 9th with City this season after spending a fortune and spending 4 years at the club, but somehow Arteta is joker if he is currently 15th with this Arsenal squad without even having a full season with these nothing players and having no backing in the market.

Experience is overrated. Wenger couldn’t arrest Arsenal’s decline in his last years in spite of being the most experienced manager in English football post SAF retirement.
 
Arteta is the worse manager in the history of EPL

cant belive arsenal fans compared him to ole,:))) he makes ole look like sir alex Ferguson.

Mamoon will obviously support anything wrong, when mamoon jumps left this is clear indication its time to go right. :)))

I have never seen such a bad man manger in my life. Hes taking Arsenals best players and running them down in the ground, there was a time when arsenal fans feared they'll Guendouzi only for RM or Barca to come calling, now hes gone, he had the EPLs most inform and best striker and has turned him into another Welbeck. You can give this guy messi and ronaldo and he'll have them playing like theo walcot and dele ali

Just compare arsenal and tottenham now, when this guy took over arsenal and spurs had pretty much equal sides, average team with a great striker and you look were mourinho has taken spurs and arsenal are now heading to the championship.

hes a Spainish Allydace, but even worse.

Arsenal should take my advise and bring back Arsene Wenger, like i said at the time emery was sacked, a break is all great individuals need to get back to there best.


You don’t have to expose your lack of knowledge and perception all the time. Calling Sterling rubbish and inferior to Depay and calling Maguire better than VVD were enough.

Ole is a poor manager with no long-term future. He also gets flogged by Arteta every time they play each other. Ole is always a sacking waiting to happen and Bruno’s penalties are keeping him in the job. Ole is a one trick pony - play a diamond formation against an attacking team and try and hit them on the counter.

He is a sitting duck against teams who sit deep.

10 years from today, there will be virtually no comparison between him and Arteta as managers. Arteta will leave him behind and I hope it is at Arsenal.

Also, Spurs and Arsenal were not at the same level before Mourinho and Arteta took over. The Spurs team were much better and they were fresh off playing in the UCL final. They were a genuine top 4 side. The Arsenal team that Arteta took over (and still has) was below that level.

Spurs were underperforming under Pochettino in his last season because he had lost the dressing room and the team spirit was very low after the UCL final. Also, Pochettino’s decision to buckle under pressure and start an unfit Kane in the final (who could barely move) over semifinal hero Lucas did not sit well with Levy, plus his inability to win anything with a very good squad proved to be his undoing.

If Arsenal had managed to rope in Mourinho instead of Arteta, it would be deja vu for Mourinho. He would be in the same position he was in his last seasons at Chelsea and Man United. He would be throwing the players under the bus, sucking the life out of the squad and waiting to get sacked.

At Spurs he looks like the Special One again because he has two brilliant players who have great understanding and a host of other quality players. At Arsenal, he would have continued to look like the Sacked One.

Arsene Wenger is done as a manager. He is out of touch with modern football and his old school coaching style and tactics do not work anymore. He failed to evolve. He was a manager of the 90s and 2000s, not 2010s and 2020s.

There is a reason why he never got a tempting offer after leaving Arsenal and is now working in some useless, ceremonial role at FIFA.
 
Im willing to agree with everything you said but calling Ancelotti "washed up, past it" is uncalled for.

He has won everything everywhere he has gone and definitely looking a lot better than Arteta right now..

Everton are not a top club but Ancelotti is still getting the best out of them..


Ancelotti is a yesterday’s manager. You can’t hire someone like him in 2020 and call it intent. His best years as a manager are behind him. He is a very good fit for Everton but not a top 6 club that hopes to get into the top 4 and eventually start challenging for the PL again.
 
Arteta will be be one of the best managers in the world. He is being let down by a dysfunctional squad with pathetic mentality. This is the most unlikable Arsenal squad ever. A bunch of entitled, average footballers with no work ethic and discipline.

If the board have no patience and make Arteta a scapegoat it will be their loss in the long run. If not at Arsenal he will end up proving his worth at another club. Right now, no manager in the world can sort the hot mess that Arsenal is without proper investment in the market.

If Arsenal sack him City will still look at him as a potential successor to Pep. They worked him with for 3 years, they saw what he is capable of, how much he helped players like Sterling and Sane and how his in-game management influenced Pep as well.

In 2017-18 and 2018-19, City scored a lot of goals with cutback crosses, and it was Arteta who came up with that idea. It is just one example of his influence at City which armchair critics do not see.

Pep is 9th with City this season after spending a fortune and spending 4 years at the club, but somehow Arteta is joker if he is currently 15th with this Arsenal squad without even having a full season with these nothing players and having no backing in the market.

Experience is overrated. Wenger couldn’t arrest Arsenal’s decline in his last years in spite of being the most experienced manager in English football post SAF retirement.

He may become a quality manager but right now he clearly isn’t it ...

One example of his terrible man management is his interview today ...he tried to offer a justification for Xhaka’s red card in his post match interview ...he was significantly more scathing of Pepe...he has his favourites...but the problem is it’s evident who those are ...

For a supposedly tough taskmaster he’s being openly mocked by Guendouzi and Saliba...Guendouzi as mentioned is poor management and the Saliba situation is an absolute farce...

He continues to pick underperforming players...it’s incredible that Bellerin seems undroppable ...if Cedric is so bad that he can’t come in for Bellerin then it raises the question...why did you buy him?...AMN could play there...but apparently not...

What is Arsenal’s style of play?...it’s slow, boring and ineffective...basically cross, cross, cross...sides have absolutely no problem letting Arsenal do things from out wide...as a Villa fan we play narrow...we want sides to cross it from deep...

Yet Arteta speaks about performing well because they dominate possession ...sides allow Arsenal to have possession...because they know Arsenal will do nothing...2 goals in 8 games is shambolic ...

He’s been an absolute flop ...an FA Cup just papered over the cracks ...

The only defence is the same one I offer for Emery which is the players are rubbish...but they aren’t as rubbish as their position ...and Arteta refuses to change his ineffective personnel ...Tierney, Gabriel, Auba ads good players surrounded by dross...but why not experiment if things aren’t working...Nelson, Smith-Rowe, Balogun ...it’s incredible how bad Lacazette is allowed to be ...points for effort but he’s useless...Willian decent today but generally poor...even show some bottle and drop Auba...no consequence at all for poor performances...

And I gave him a pass for Ozil...but considering how freezing out players seems to be something he’s accustomed to maybe Ozil is his decision after all...which if true would be another example of how inept he’s been ...
 
Emery was rubbish - the 6-1 defeat to Barcelona should have had the alarm bells ringing to the Arsenal Board before they signed him ..

Should have pushed harder to get Ancelotti or Allegri..

Emery has done well everywhere else he’s been and is doing well at Villarreal now ...sometimes a manager and a club aren’t a good fit ...this was one example of it ...

It’s starting to become evident just how mediocre Arsenal’s players are ...but Arteta has done a significantly worse job ...I honestly don’t see what Allegri or Ancelotti would have done with these losers...not as bad as Arteta but why do you think those two could have achieved top 4 with this team ?
 
You don’t have to expose your lack of knowledge and perception all the time. Calling Sterling rubbish and inferior to Depay and calling Maguire better than VVD were enough.

Ole is a poor manager with no long-term future. He also gets flogged by Arteta every time they play each other. Ole is always a sacking waiting to happen and Bruno’s penalties are keeping him in the job. Ole is a one trick pony - play a diamond formation against an attacking team and try and hit them on the counter.

He is a sitting duck against teams who sit deep.

10 years from today, there will be virtually no comparison between him and Arteta as managers. Arteta will leave him behind and I hope it is at Arsenal.

Also, Spurs and Arsenal were not at the same level before Mourinho and Arteta took over. The Spurs team were much better and they were fresh off playing in the UCL final. They were a genuine top 4 side. The Arsenal team that Arteta took over (and still has) was below that level.

Spurs were underperforming under Pochettino in his last season because he had lost the dressing room and the team spirit was very low after the UCL final. Also, Pochettino’s decision to buckle under pressure and start an unfit Kane in the final (who could barely move) over semifinal hero Lucas did not sit well with Levy, plus his inability to win anything with a very good squad proved to be his undoing.

If Arsenal had managed to rope in Mourinho instead of Arteta, it would be deja vu for Mourinho. He would be in the same position he was in his last seasons at Chelsea and Man United. He would be throwing the players under the bus, sucking the life out of the squad and waiting to get sacked.

At Spurs he looks like the Special One again because he has two brilliant players who have great understanding and a host of other quality players. At Arsenal, he would have continued to look like the Sacked One.

Arsene Wenger is done as a manager. He is out of touch with modern football and his old school coaching style and tactics do not work anymore. He failed to evolve. He was a manager of the 90s and 2000s, not 2010s and 2020s.

There is a reason why he never got a tempting offer after leaving Arsenal and is now working in some useless, ceremonial role at FIFA.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Please dont talk about lack of knowledge, when you continually embarrass yourself in every discussion.

Ole has played a diamond formation 1 time this season in the EPL which was against arsenal and i guess thats the only match you watched which is obvious and take the rest from tabloids. Clearly you lack any knoladge at all.

You can keep comparing your spainsh allardyce to Ole, but it wont change anything, ole continually beats top teams, is now 2 points from the top spot if he wins his game in hand, came third last season when no one expected it while arteta is battling relegation. Bring all your excuses, it doesnt change the facts.

Ole inherited a worse team than arteta did that was mentaly broken by mourinho, dressing room issues etc. He turned it around by very good man managment something that arteta will never understand.

Areta is worse then any manager who has managed in the EPL, there are better managers in the championship then him, please dont fool yourself in waiting for what happens in 10 years, he will be looking for jobs stacking tins at tesco by then because the football world would have left him far behind.

As for spurs and Arsenal, they had a pretty equal team, ofcourse they were managed better with poch but even arsenal were competing for top 4, which look like a long way ago, seeing how far they have fallen under arteta, infact poch would have done better with that arsenal team then he did with spurs, you have a top goal scorer in Auba and up and coming players in torreira and guendouzi - arteta has ran your team into the ground and you as a fan is happy about it :)))
 
I really hope Xhaka is no longer in Arsenal’s plans anymore. Doesn’t deserve to play another minute for this club.

-Swearing at the fans
-reckless, careless tackles all over the pitch
-can’t keep his emotions in check knowing that his side is extremely vulnerable at the moment.

Absolute disgrace this guy!
 
I suspect the Ozil decision was taken at board level. However despite that I think Arteta may be a decent coach but at the moment he's a rubbish manager.

His team selections have been awful and with the player investment we've made we should really be pushing top 5.. I suspect his man management is poor too and rumours that he wasn't very liked as captain probably have some weight to it.

There will be some players who are working against him in the dressing room... you don't lose four in a row at home to the teams we lost to if there isn't some trouble in the dressing room...
 
4 straight home defeats in the premier league

How is this guy not sacked yet? This is why the Arsenal Manager’s job is the most rewarding managerial job in the world. You can get away with murder as the Arsenal manager, and the fans are the ones who suffer!
 
4 straight home defeats in the premier league

How is this guy not sacked yet? This is why the Arsenal Manager’s job is the most rewarding managerial job in the world. You can get away with murder as the Arsenal manager, and the fans are the ones who suffer!

The board have cornered themselves....
They only gave Emory a season plus a month or so and then went with a holding manager before going with Arteta as some Pep junior who'll gone to become the next special one..

They didn't expect "The Project" to go so badly so quickly..
 
Anyway nothing to lose now...
So he needs to stick Willian on the bench and get the youngsters on.
There is enough talent to nurture with the likes of Smith Rose, Nelson etc... he just needs to play them.
That will also get the fans off his back and buy him some time.
 
If Arteta loses a 5th straight home defeat,

There is more chance of Covid 19 completely vanishing from the face of the Earth the following morning instead of Arteta being sacked. The Arsenal board is by far the most clueless in the world of sports management. Even the Afghanistan cricket board are better managed than this!

How did you save money on signing Arteta and not Mourinho/Ancelotti and are now fighting a serious relegation battle? We can’t win against Burnley at home!

I would sell the cursed Emirates and move back to a 2000 capacity stadium only attended by those loyal season ticket holders instead of this gutless garbage!
 
Arsenal fans need to calm down and think rationally. The squad stinks of mediocrity and on top of that the players have no ambition and self-respect. Moreover, the board fails to back the manager in the window.

What will change if a new manager comes in? Apart from the inevitable temporary bounce, normal business will resume next season.

Take a look at United. They went from Moyes to LVG thinking that they made a mistake by replacing SAF with a manager who had never managed a big club in his life.

Thought LVG had the experience to steer the club in the right direction but it didn’t work out. Then they roped in Mourinho because he is a winner with an illustrious CV, and it didn’t work out either.

Now they have pinned their hopes on a joker who is cosplaying SAF, and this experiment will also end in tears.

Arteta is one of the brightest young managers in the game. When you listen to him it is obvious how intelligent he and how much he understands football. He was touted for greatness as a manager even when he was still playing.

If Arsenal sack him now they will live to regret it later. It is important they remain calm and show faith in him.

Instead of demanding a new manager to work miracles with these losers, back Arteta in the market and get rid of deadwood like Xhaka, Lacazette, Pepe, Sokratis, Willian, Luiz, Bellerin and Ceballos within the next two windows.

Get this garbage out of the door and allow Arteta to build a squad with his vision and identify and then you can hold him accountable.
 
Arteta continually selecting Willian,Bellerin,Xhaka, and Lacazette is costing him big time. These players aren't good anyway but they are out of form. Xhaka wanted to leave last January and Arteta persuaded him to stay. David Luiz was offered an extension when we could have let him go for free. Now rumours he doesn't even speak to Arteta. Usually if David Luiz is done with a manager, it's a sign that the manager has lost the dressing room. Also Bellerin could have left in the summer but we turned down PSG offer.

Arteta does need time. But some of his decisions and man management has not been good enough.
 
Most of the players coming through the academy are quite average. The fans are overrating them because the first-team players are dross, and they are desperate for the young players to salvage the season.

Apart from Emile Smith Rowe and Saka, the other academy players do not look like they have high ceilings. Balogun and Azeez look interesting but it is too early to tell.

Most of these Hale End players do not have good techniques and have poor passing range. Not sure if the German beanpole has much to offer as an academy coach.

Would rather have someone like Cazorla guide the academy players.
 
People rightly talk about the woeful transfer policy, but the flop show of the academy is rarely talked about.

Not a single genuine talent has come through the academy since Wilshere broke through in 2008.

Let’s see if some of the current lot can buck the trend.

The academy has been pulling off a scam for years.
 
Most of the players coming through the academy are quite average. The fans are overrating them because the first-team players are dross, and they are desperate for the young players to salvage the season.

Apart from Emile Smith Rowe and Saka, the other academy players do not look like they have high ceilings. Balogun and Azeez look interesting but it is too early to tell.

Most of these Hale End players do not have good techniques and have poor passing range. Not sure if the German beanpole has much to offer as an academy coach.

Would rather have someone like Cazorla guide the academy players.

Emile Smith Rowe, Saka, Balogun, Azeez, Martinelli (I know he wasn't part of the academy but is still young), Nelson, Maitland Niles, Willock all have very good potential and they should be played in the first team now rather then later. There is no way in hell that Willian should be ahead of Maitland Niles let alone Nelson, Wilock or Smith Rowe.
 
4 straight home defeats in the premier league

How is this guy not sacked yet? This is why the Arsenal Manager’s job is the most rewarding managerial job in the world. You can get away with murder as the Arsenal manager, and the fans are the ones who suffer!

mainly because many of europes top sides are struggling and have managerial positions which will be vacant soon, and the better available managers will wait for the right job.

Arsenal are better abandoning this failed project with arteta, and getting a decent mid-level manager to steer the club out of this mess arteta has created and then maybe try and get a top manager after.

Not only is arteta rubbish at managment but hes trashing the club and making a toxic enviroment, which will be a terribly place to be for the next manager, this is worse than what a fed up mourinho does.
 
Emile Smith Rowe, Saka, Balogun, Azeez, Martinelli (I know he wasn't part of the academy but is still young), Nelson, Maitland Niles, Willock all have very good potential and they should be played in the first team now rather then later. There is no way in hell that Willian should be ahead of Maitland Niles let alone Nelson, Wilock or Smith Rowe.

This is the last time Arsenal should do business with Chelsea. It is unbelievable how they have conned Arsenal into signing three expired players.

A lot was said about Cech and his winning mentality but he was largely a waste. Wenger sacrificed Szczesny for him who is now one of the best in the world.
 
Quality trolling by Ozil on twitter...

He’s tweeted the official Arsenal page ‘need help?? ;) ‘...
 
Quality trolling by Ozil on twitter...

He’s tweeted the official Arsenal page ‘need help?? ;) ‘...

Guendouzi and Saliba mocking Arteta on Instagram and now Ozil on Twitter. Also Lucas Torreira ‘liked’ that Ozil tweet before Ozil deleted it.

Embarrassing for the club.
 
Guendouzi and Saliba mocking Arteta on Instagram and now Ozil on Twitter. Also Lucas Torreira ‘liked’ that Ozil tweet before Ozil deleted it.

Embarrassing for the club.

Whats more embarrassing than a fan who still supports such a clueless manager for his own team :)))
 
Arteta has the potential to be the Spanish SAF. I don't agree with him being a Spanish Allardyce.

Lets be honest though, Arsenal are a joke of a club at present. 4 straight home defeats with their distinctively average players. Their only world class player has downed tools since he got his bumper contract deal.

Its inevitable that he will be sacked. It is just a matter of whether they take action this month or wait until the new year.
 
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Hindsight is always 20/20 - was he the right choice of manager? Looking at the situation now the answer is probably ‘no’ however sacking him now is probably a mistake too - it’s not as if there’s a long list of decent managers out there who would be willing to take this job. I’d give him until the end of the season.
 
Guendouzi and Saliba mocking Arteta on Instagram and now Ozil on Twitter. Also Lucas Torreira ‘liked’ that Ozil tweet before Ozil deleted it.

Embarrassing for the club.

All losers are joining hands to force Arteta out of the club. The irony is that these losers (except Saliba) are responsible for this situation.

Ozil - a coward who was finished 5 years ago. The guys gets bullied on the pitch by players earning a fraction of what he does, he got a verbal thrashing by the CEO of the biggest club of his country (Bayern) and now is trying hard to revive his Turkish roots after rejecting their national team in the first place.

After failing to get a big move because no big club was willing to sign him, he has started to feign loyalty to Arsenal and is trying to become a PR angel.

Torreira - a useless midget who made no effort to acclimatize to English football and learn a word of English. He started crying after a few months and has wanted out for a year now.

Guendouzi - a headless chicken with no discipline on and off the pitch. All he does is run around and get into fights. An average play who thinks he is the next Pogba. Another player who will never make it at a big club. He is currently playing at his level.
 
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