Asia Cup 2025: India vs Pakistan | Final | Dubai | September 28 | Pre-Match Discussion

[AZulfi]

I expect the scores in the final to be lower

However, 135+/- won't do. Will need to bat much better than today.

Batting remains unpredictable and a big worry..

 

[tiger_khan]

How come there is no more strong boycott calls against playing the Pakistanis in India?

The coming final has the potential to be the most watched game of the year because of the shenanigans of the BBCI, SKY and Godi media.

I personally think the Godi media was exploiting the sentiments of millions of Indians while covering the game simultaneously. All they wanted to do was market the games through negativity. That's a very lowly thing to do.

 

[sweep_shot]

I expect the scores in the final to be lower

However, 135+/- won't do. Will need to bat much better than today.

Batting remains unpredictable and a big worry..

Yes. 135 is unlikely to be enough against India.

If Pakistan bat first, they will need 170+.

 

[J-Essence]

Its india's game to lose

Pakistan has serious issues with batting. And bowling is good but it cannot handle Indian batting skills. A win for Pakistan will be a fluke but I guess we will take it.

 

[GlobalCric]

I see Abhishek or Gill's 100 loading for the final...I also expect one or two 50er from either Tilak, Surya or Hardik.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I will say one thing though - pressure is more on India to beat Pakistan 3/3 times. There obviously isn't any doubt who the better team is regardless of the result. But Pakistan are just coming off a scratchy win where they really had to fight hard and band together as a unit to win the match. That kind of win gives you alot of confidence and self-belief as a team. India have largely been sitting pretty, and haven't really been tested that much. The middle-order hasn't been exposed much, the team is heavily dependent on Abhishek and Gill and the captain captain is struggling for runs big time. If Pakistan bowl first and manage to get the openers early, it could be an interesting game. But if they let Abhishek get off to an explosive start, things will start to get out of hand very quickly.

 

[Devadwal]

I see Abhishek or Gill's 100 loading for the final...I also expect one or two 50er from either Tilak, Surya or Hardik.

Bhaisaab apka kuch Zyada nahi ho Raha hai Ab

 

[Rana]

Gaalam galoch match!!!

 

[Devadwal]

Gaalam galoch match!!!

Abhishek to Shaheen/ rauf - Jake boundary se ball utha ke Lao. Ye hi kam hai tumhara

 

[jnaveen1980]

I will say one thing though - pressure is more on India to beat Pakistan 3/3 times. There obviously isn't any doubt who the better team is regardless of the result. But Pakistan are just coming off a scratchy win where they really had to fight hard and band together as a unit to win the match. That kind of win gives you alot of confidence and self-belief as a team. India have largely been sitting pretty, and haven't really been tested that much. The middle-order hasn't been exposed much, the team is heavily dependent on Abhishek and Gill and the captain captain is struggling for runs big time. If Pakistan bowl first and manage to get the openers early, it could be an interesting game. But if they let Abhishek get off to an explosive start, things will start to get out of hand very quickly.

In 2025 defintiely Abhishek is our star. But if you go a little further back you will realize ABhishek was not even the best guy in the team in 2024. India has been messing with entry points of various players for whatever reason. Tilak was no.3. Samson was opening. Gill was not even in the side last year. India had multiple match winners over the last 2 years.

2024 T20I stats of India

 

[AZulfi]

I will say one thing though - pressure is more on India to beat Pakistan 3/3 times. There obviously isn't any doubt who the better team is regardless of the result. But Pakistan are just coming off a scratchy win where they really had to fight hard and band together as a unit to win the match. That kind of win gives you alot of confidence and self-belief as a team. India have largely been sitting pretty, and haven't really been tested that much. The middle-order hasn't been exposed much, the team is heavily dependent on Abhishek and Gill and the captain captain is struggling for runs big time. If Pakistan bowl first and manage to get the openers early, it could be an interesting game. But if they let Abhishek get off to an explosive start, things will start to get out of hand very quickly.

Agreed. India is a better side, but it remains to be seen how their middle-order cope with the pressure of a final if Abhishek and/or Gill go early in pp. No one disputes Abhishek's talent but he has been riding his luck in the last couple of games; he was dropped on 7 by Jaker Ali yesterday.

 

[Devadwal]

In 2025 defintiely Abhishek is our star. But if you go a little further back you will realize ABhishek was not even the best guy in the team in 2024. India has been messing with entry points of various players for whatever reason. Tilak was no.3. Samson was opening. Gill was not even in the side last year. India had multiple match winners over the last 2 years.

2024 T20I stats of India

Abhishek
Gill
Samson
Sky
Tilak
PANDYA
Dube
Patel

This should be batting order for final. Sky and GG are changing players batting postion too much

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

In 2025 defintiely Abhishek is our star. But if you go a little further back you will realize ABhishek was not even the best guy in the team in 2024. India has been messing with entry points of various players for whatever reason. Tilak was no.3. Samson was opening. Gill was not even in the side last year. India had multiple match winners over the last 2 years.

2024 T20I stats of India

True but talking about now, the top two names in that list have struggled big-time in this tournament so far. I think a big problem in this tournament has been India's batting line-up too, which has really made no sense from time to time...like in the last game. Gill and Abhishek's batting has tapered over the batting of SKY, Samson, Dube etc. Tilak has been alright but he hasn't really batted in a challenging situation so far in this tournament; barring the last match, where he failed.

 

[jnaveen1980]

True but talking about now, the top two names in that list have struggled big-time in this tournament so far. I think a big problem in this tournament has been India's batting line-up too, which has really made no sense from time to time...like in the last game. Gill and Abhishek's batting has tapered over the batting of SKY, Samson, Dube etc. Tilak has been alright but he hasn't really batted in a challenging situation so far in this tournament; barring the last match, where he failed.

As i said INdia is trying adapt to new line up since return of Subhman Gill. I think they are over-experimenting. Listening to guys like DK they say INdia is looking to build a side where 6 players in the middle order should be able to bat in any position. It is a ridiculous strategy. India has only 10 more T20Is before world cup Atleast top 3 should be a settled combination. But they have messed around no.3 spot 3 or 4 times in Asia cup.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

As i said INdia is trying adapt to new line up since return of Subhman Gill. I think they are over-experimenting. Listening to guys like DK they say INdia is looking to build a side where 6 players in the middle order should be able to bat in any position. It is a ridiculous strategy. India has only 10 more T20Is before world cup Atleast top 3 should be a settled combination. But they have messed around no.3 spot 3 or 4 times in Asia cup.

Yeah. And Sanju Samson in particular has been the worst affected IMO. Granted, his returns this year haven't been close to last year but first they took him out of his preferred position, and now you're shuffling him around to no end. It's very tough on him when he's already searching for fluency with the bat in this tournament. If you ask me, he just doesn't put into this line-up if you take him out of the opening slot. India have much better middle-order batsmen who can keep wickets aswell like Rishabh Pant and Jitesh Sharma.

But yes agree, top 3 should be settled, because the expectations from them with the bat are about the same.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yeah. And Sanju Samson in particular has been the worst affected IMO. Granted, his returns this year haven't been close to last year but first they took him out of his preferred position, and now you're shuffling him around to no end. It's very tough on him when he's already searching for fluency with the bat in this tournament. If you ask me, he just doesn't put into this line-up if you take him out of the opening slot. India have much better middle-order batsmen who can keep wickets aswell like Rishabh Pant and Jitesh Sharma.

But yes agree, top 3 should be settled, because the expectations from them with the bat are about the same.

Jitesh as a keeper is there who did some great finishing in the IPL. He is a true 360 degree player. One of the reason why RCB won the IPL this season. They are expecting Sanju to get familiar with no.5 spot and not even sending him at no.8 which was weird. Other option is Rinku singh. But India needs a keeper. India has surplus of keepers. Isan Kishan, KL Rahul, Rishabh pant, Prabhsimran singh, Jitesh besides Samson. So Samson has no choice but to adapt.

 

[rhony]

If its a turning wicket, India will win easily. If its a batting pitch, India can chase 180. India can defend 170. Pak has to bat, bowl and field better than they did all tournament. Can they do it? Possible. This Indian team has robotic efficiency and are fearless. Id say 65 - 35 India.

 

[jnaveen1980]

If its a turning wicket, India will win easily. If its a batting pitch, India can chase 180. India can defend 170. Pak has to bat, bowl and field better than they did all tournament. Can they do it? Possible. This Indian team has robotic efficiency and are fearless. Id say 65 - 35 India.

India's X-factor players are not showing up. SKy has to be kicked out if he doesn't perform. He is just indulging in making these political statements. India cannot afford to carry out of form players. In T20 format form is everything. Inform players can be more damaging. He is not only not finding his own form. But also screwing up the form of others by shuffling the batting order all over.

 

[rhony]

India's X-factor players are not showing up. SKy has to be kicked out if he doesn't perform. He is just indulging in making these political statements. India cannot afford to carry out of form players. In T20 format form is everything. Inform players can be more damaging. He is not only not finding his own form. But also screwing up the form of others by shuffling the batting order all over.

If Iyer was the captain, India's chances would be even better. One of Samson or Sky has to click if Abhishek flops.

 

[cricketmania22]

If its a turning wicket, India will win easily. If its a batting pitch, India can chase 180. India can defend 170. Pak has to bat, bowl and field better than they did all tournament. Can they do it? Possible. This Indian team has robotic efficiency and are fearless. Id say 65 - 35 India.

20-80 in favor of India. Im
Not sure why I’m giving them 20%…I guess just for showing showing up.

 

[jnaveen1980]

If Iyer was the captain, India's chances would be even better. One of Samson or Sky has to click if Abhishek flops.

Gambhir vs Iyer tussle will ensure Iyer never plays for India again.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

I see Abhishek or Gill's 100 loading for the final...I also expect one or two 50er from either Tilak, Surya or Hardik.

Haan haan 300 karein gai

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Basically need Saim or Fakhar to get at least 70+

180 might be defendable in the final if we get the openers out in the first 3.

We are due a day where the batting fires. Hopefully the boys are fired up and we see a repeat of 2017.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Speaking in an interview with a local sports platform, Shoaib Akhtar urged the players to carry the same fearless mindset they displayed against Bangladesh into the high-stakes clash against India:

“Step out of that mindset, break their aura, and go in with the same attitude you had against Bangladesh—take them on, come at us, we’ll see. That’s the attitude you need,”

“We don’t just have to complete 20 overs, we have to take wickets. When you go for wickets, even India will realise that they can be rattled and not allowed to score freely. And the moment Abhishek gets out within the first two overs—mark my words—they’ll be in real trouble. Right now, they’re starting strong and enjoying themselves, but once that start is broken, they’ll struggle too,”

“Don’t think that you are the best team, but remember that you are the best combination and the best players on the field. Don’t focus on India being the number one team. Just go out there and give your best. Ask yourself: what is my best? Whatever that is, give it out there. Please try to play sensible cricket,”

“Pakistan has the ability to put up big scores and also the ability to bowl the opposition out — trust me, take my word for it. Now you’re meeting for the third time, and there’s definitely a reason behind it. We’ll come to know that reason on Sunday. I want to see Pakistan win, and I feel 100% sure that Pakistan is going to nail it,”

 

[Usman Chadda]

Just go out there and enjoy the stage. India is too strong for us, but India won’t be able to stop Pakistan from giving it everything.

Thats the best we as fans can hope from them.

Beating this Indian team will take good cricket from the other top teams in the world, if we can give them a good fight then we would have earned the respect of the cricketing world.

 

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Congratulations to Pakistan on being runners up of 2025 Asia Cup

 

[heddie19]

Basically need Saim or Fakhar to get at least 70+

180 might be defendable in the final if we get the openers out in the first 3.

We are due a day where the batting fires. Hopefully the boys are fired up and we see a repeat of 2017.

No. on a pitch we score 180, India can score 220 on the same pitch. The only slim chance of winning is by chasing considering India's batting collapses and we are chasing under 150.

 

[GoogleToggle]

Man this is going to be a beating of lifetime. Cant wait for the post match conspiracy theories

 

[GLORY OF '92]

No. on a pitch we score 180, India can score 220 on the same pitch. The only slim chance of winning is by chasing considering India's batting collapses and we are chasing under 150.

Chasing in a final never works for Pakistan especially against strong teams.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Man this is going to be a beating of lifetime. Cant wait for the post match conspiracy theories

Tomorrow's trial match will give us a snapshot of where we are with the form of other players.

 

[heddie19]

Chasing in a final never works for Pakistan especially against strong teams.

I believe it still has a little more chance than Batting first working in Dubai on a belter. The ball comes onto the bat better later part of the night.

 

[GoogleToggle]

Tomorrow's trial match will give us a snapshot of where we are with the form of other players.

True, but beating Pak and SL should not take much of an effort.

 

[Greenstorm]

India won both games while chasing. Pakistan should bowl first.

This will be my lineup;

1. Saim
2. Farhan
3. Harris
4. Fakhar
5. Salman
6. Hassan
7. Nawaz
8. Shaheen
9. Wasim jr/Sufyan
10. Harris Rauf
11. Abrar

 

[GoogleToggle]

India look like they are a class apart. But it's still an inexperienced side and in t20s any side can win. I say 70-30 India favoured

They have all played many seasons of IPL which is higher quality than regular bilateral these days.

This is going to be another thrashing as always.

 

[GoogleToggle]

India may run out of fuel on sunday

India's back up generator is enough for Pakistan

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan is ready for India. InshAllah we will defeat the arrogant tossers in the final. It is written in the stars.

This is the moment where all Pakistanis have to unite and put their agendas aside.

Regardless of how you feel about the current team, a Pakistan victory on Sunday will put a smile on every Pakistanis face.

Pakistan zindabad. Let’s go.

 

[PakFan2010]

My batting order/team.

1. Shaheen (send him in as a pinch hitter)
2. Farhan
3. Fakhar
4. M Nawaz
5. H Nawaz
6. Harris (WK)
7. Ashraf
8. Talat
9. Salman
10. Rauf
11. Abrar

 

[sweep_shot]

My batting order/team.

1. Shaheen (send him in as a pinch hitter)
2. Farhan
3. Fakhar
4. M Nawaz
5. H Nawaz
6. Harris (WK)
7. Ashraf
8. Talat
9. Salman
10. Rauf
11. Abrar

Opening with Shaheen? Interesting.

I remember NZ once trying that. Vettori opened the batting.

 

[Obaidd]

Pakistan is ready for India. InshAllah we will defeat the arrogant tossers in the final. It is written in the stars.

This is the moment where all Pakistanis have to unite and put their agendas aside.

Regardless of how you feel about the current team, a Pakistan victory on Sunday will put a smile on every Pakistanis face.

Pakistan zindabad. Let’s go.

lol I’d love to see fraud agha win the cup. Saim and Haris contributing would make it even more special

 

[Mamoon]

lol I’d love to see fraud agha win the cup. Saim and Haris contributing would make it even more special

I don’t care who does or doesn’t do well in the final. Just find a way to beat India.

The amount of trolling and trash-talking the Indians will experience if they lose the final will be unprecedented. They have no idea what’s in store for them if they lose.

 

[ameer219]

Congratulations for defeating Minnow Bangladesh.

Against India , Pakistan is already surrendered Twice. Soon it will be thrice.

Good banter.

Except this time Pakistan has nothing to lose as we didn't even expect to enter the finals.

India will be under pressure to win the cup.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Sahibzada Farhan
Hassan Nawaz
Saim Ayub
Fakhar Zaman
Mohammad Haris
Mohammad Nawaz
Salman Agha
Faheem Ashraf
Shaheen Afridi
Haris Rauf
Sufiyan Muqeem

 

[ameer219]

The real threat here is Abhishek. That man can bat. Need to be short of a length aimed at the body to stand a chance.

The bowlers that seemed to also keep us on our toes is surprisingly Axar and Kuldeep. For the first time I am not worried about Bumrah at all.

I hope Pakistan brings their A game and rotate strike as much as possible. It has been their weakness.

 

[PakFan2010]

The real threat here is Abhishek. That man can bat. Need to be short of a length aimed at the body to stand a chance.

The bowlers that seemed to also keep us on our toes is surprisingly Axar and Kuldeep. For the first time I am not worried about Bumrah at all.

I hope Pakistan brings their A game and rotate strike as much as possible. It has been their weakness.

Shaheen needs to bowl line and length like he did today.

When he bowls full and chases wickets, he gets tonked.

 

[jnaveen1980]

One of the greatest strength of this Indian side is you can get away from them for a few overs they can completely turn it around in the next few overs. Only two teams have crossed 200 against Indai since Jan 1, 2024. India won both.

 

[PakFan2010]

One of the greatest strength of this Indian side is you can get away from them for a few overs they can completely turn it around in the next few overs. Only two teams have crossed 200 against Indai since Jan 1, 2024. India won both.

We heard all of this nonsense before the 2023 World Cup Final.

Fakhar Zaman will play the Travis Head role on Sunday.

 

[jnaveen1980]

We heard all of this nonsense before the 2023 World Cup Final.

Fakhar Zaman will play the Travis Head role on Sunday.

You are no Australia. Australia got their ass handed both in WT20, 2024, CT 2024, Even in 2023 world cup they were beaten in first round.

Fakhar vs India in T20 6 matches 70 runs 14.00 average 125.00 strike rate
Travis Head vs India in 20 8 matches 255 runs 36.42 average 150.88 strike rate

lol That is a comical comparison.

 

[Obaidd]

I don’t care who does or doesn’t do well in the final. Just find a way to beat India.

The amount of trolling and trash-talking the Indians will experience if they lose the final will be unprecedented. They have no idea what’s in store for them if they lose.

True. If pak wins this one, anybody who is a part of the effort would be remembered.
Ahmed Shehzad holding the ct17 in that white blazer is still a memory even though he didn’t play the final.

Regarding ind fans yes I trust the ppp-ers (extra p) to give them a treatment to remember

 

[cricketmania22]

One of the greatest strength of this Indian side is you can get away from them for a few overs they can completely turn it around in the next few overs. Only two teams have crossed 200 against Indai since Jan 1, 2024. India won both.

Indias biggest strength is their bowling in these conditions. They don’t let teams put up a par total.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Indias biggest strength is their bowling in these conditions. They don’t let teams put up a par total.

But sadly fielding is undoing all the work. Hope it is not the same in the final. So far they are getting away with errors. But won't be the same every day.

 

[cricketmania22]

But sadly fielding is undoing all the work. Hope it is not the same in the final. So far they are getting away with errors. But won't be the same every day.

I really hope your fielding lets you down again and Pakistan capitalizes on it big time.

 

[ChennaiFan]

How come there is no more strong boycott calls against playing the Pakistanis in India?

The coming final has the potential to be the most watched game of the year because of the shenanigans of the BBCI, SKY and Godi media.

I personally think the Godi media was exploiting the sentiments of millions of Indians while covering the game simultaneously. All they wanted to do was market the games through negativity. That's a very lowly thing to do.

I agree. Negativity attracts people. We see a lot of YouTube videos with negative titles to get people to watch them. Social media is inundated with negative content. Even here on this site, you will see many threads with provocative titles about India. These threads attract both India haters and the keyboard warriors from the Indian side.

 

[ChennaiFan]

I don’t care who does or doesn’t do well in the final. Just find a way to beat India.

The amount of trolling and trash-talking the Indians will experience if they lose the final will be unprecedented. They have no idea what’s in store for them if they lose.

Good chance for your wishes to come true on Sunday. India is not playing good cricket and Pakistan team has the motivation to beat India now. I expect Pakistan to win the Asia Cup.

 

[JaDed]

Considering law of averages PCT should beat Indian team, it’s been a long time since India lost to PCT.

 

[Obaidd]

most eyeballs tear overflow loading

 

[jnaveen1980]

Considering law of averages PCT should beat Indian team, it’s been a long time since India lost to PCT.

Yea. all the pakistan fans are extremely confident of winning Asia cup.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Yea. all the pakistan fans are extremely confident of winning Asia cup.

but I am not.. i know the reality of my team because just bowling will not save you from the defeat all the teime.. batters also need to come forward.

 

[sweep_shot]

Considering law of averages PCT should beat Indian team, it’s been a long time since India lost to PCT.

Last time India lost to Pakistan was in 2022 Asia Cup I believe. Super Four of 2022 Asia Cup. M Nawaz was the man of the match if I remember correctly.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Considering law of averages PCT should beat Indian team, it’s been a long time since India lost to PCT.

It can happen.

This Indian team will beat PCT 80-90% of the time if they play a 10 times in a T20. India had the hammer on PCT for a longtime now. All it takes is one failure of both Abhi and Gill and the rest of the batting unit did not click at all. You never know.

I still believe India will win even if they have an average day in the field. Problem is when they collectively flop and lay an egg. Hard to see it happen though.

 

[big_gamer007]

This tournament is having CT2017 vibes, let’s hope we don’t choke in finals like we did back then, otherwise PPers will get masala for next 10 more years.

 

[JaDed]

Last time India lost to Pakistan was in 2022 Asia Cup I believe. Super Four of 2022 Asia Cup. M Nawaz was the man of the match if I remember correctly.

Yup..

 

[JaDed]

Yea. all the pakistan fans are extremely confident of winning Asia cup.

Does seem that way as they have never lost consistently for so long.. I don’t blame them

 

[kron]

If Pakistan win they will celebrate like they won the world cup lmao

Btw Asian cup titles 8. India

Pakistan 2

Even with their gold star 90s team they won nothing vs India in actual tournaments

@sweep_shot

Sad isn’t it

 

[kron]

Yea. all the pakistan fans are extremely confident of winning Asia cup.

It’s just an Asia cup but for them it’s like winning the world cup

But I expect India to still win I think.

 

[kron]

I will say one thing though - pressure is more on India to beat Pakistan 3/3 times. There obviously isn't any doubt who the better team is regardless of the result. But Pakistan are just coming off a scratchy win where they really had to fight hard and band together as a unit to win the match. That kind of win gives you alot of confidence and self-belief as a team. India have largely been sitting pretty, and haven't really been tested that much. The middle-order hasn't been exposed much, the team is heavily dependent on Abhishek and Gill and the captain captain is struggling for runs big time. If Pakistan bowl first and manage to get the openers early, it could be an interesting game. But if they let Abhishek get off to an explosive start, things will start to get out of hand very quickly.

If gill dint play i would say 90% India would win

Gill playing makes it 50 50

Gill is not fit for t20

 

[globetrotter]

India beat Pakistan twice i.e. in group stage and in super 4, they can't believe India beat then twice therefore they came to face them 3rd time

 

[prash88]

India should look to do all their experiments in today's game and bring their A game in finals

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

This tournament is having CT2017 vibes, let’s hope we don’t choke in finals like we did back then, otherwise PPers will get masala for next 10 more years.

Naah, India in that tournament had a loss vs SL so was never a perfect team.

And Pak had a great semi.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

It can happen.

This Indian team will beat PCT 80-90% of the time if they play a 10 times in a T20. India had the hammer on PCT for a longtime now. All it takes is one failure of both Abhi and Gill and the rest of the batting unit did not click at all. You never know.

I still believe India will win even if they have an average day in the field. Problem is when they collectively flop and lay an egg. Hard to see it happen though.

The entire premise is on the Indian top order failing as well as the Middle order and all rounders then the bowling.

That is a very low chance.

Compared to 2017 this team has got actual middle order players and wicket taking spinners and comapred to 2021/2022 longer batting lineup and again wicket taking spinners.

There is an amazing amount of confirmation bias going on here.

Afridi who was poor against India in both games will be at this best while Bumrah, who is a superior bowler and was good in the first game will remain poor.

Abhishek who has been performing all tournament will fail while Saim will perform due to "law of averages". But that doesn't apply to the rest of the Indian batting who will remain poor (and they haven't even been that poor - Surya was good in the Pak game, Samson was MoM in the Oman game, Pandya was good last game, Tilak has been decent in a few knocks).

Even when India have been poor they have defeated Pak quite comfortably - see 2024 T20 WC and the 2nd game of the Asia cup.

 

[prash88]

Pakistan fans are running on just vibes. 4 of their team batters - Saim Ayub, Agha, Talat, Mohd Haris are walking wickets.

 

[Hikaru]

Suryakumar Yadav coming good is a bigger possibility than Pakistan winning the final, let's just leave it at that.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

7 consecutive losses to India across formats. Law of averages should favour PAK this time?

 

[Asif321]

Get abhishek early and you have the game

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

7 consecutive losses to India across formats. Law of averages should favour PAK this time?

That's not how "law of averages" works.

Law of averages means over a large sample size the results tend towards the underlying odds.

If I play Alcaraz a 1000 times I won't win one due to "law of averages".

 

[jnaveen1980]

Get abhishek early and you have the game

Keep Farhan for 15 overs you have the game - from an INdian perspective.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Get abhishek early and you have the game

Naah. Confirmation bias.

Pakistanis have prolly only seen the AC and are making inferences from there.

India has a good middle order plus good lower middle order ARs.

Abhishek wasn't even a mainstay last year and was relied more on to give 30 odd runs. Its only this year he has become consistent.

In the 2024 WC match Pak got the Indian top order early yet still lost.

 

[kron]

Will SKY and Agha have a photo together with the trophy? Captains often do it before a final.

It would be a shame if India don't shake hands after the final.

Dont think so
It’s war out there

But its only Asia cup anyway

8-2
Embarrassing for Pakistan tbh even with their so called golden team in 90s

 

[Inswing]

7 consecutive losses to India across formats. Law of averages should favour PAK this time?

No better day for the law of avgs to show up.

 

[Mr.Q]

They always find some silverlining in defeats, hopeless situations. lol Good attitude to deal with losses. But their expectation from the team is very low. Beating India somehow with the hope of India dropping guard is the wish. Not beating India when they are at their very best. India might very well mess things up given the lack of middle order contribution. But despite having the worst top 6 in this tournament mocking the unbeaten side with some weird theories is comical.

Absolutely, that’s the right way to see it. They’re basically just hoping India has an off day because that’s the only real chance they’ve got to win the tournament. Props to them for admitting that.

If India wins, it’ll be another “of course they did” moment. But calling victory in advance based on numbers or stuff you can’t control doesn’t make sense. Come on Indian fans, keep it classy.