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Asia Cup 2025: India vs Pakistan | Final | Dubai | September 28 | Pre-Match Discussion

Kriketer said:
We remeber the talk Indians had before CT final and Pak humiliated India in the only major tournament final both ever played. India is not invincible and likes of Rohit and Kholi are not there, other than Gill all other will be walking wickets if Pak bowls smart.

SL trashed your bowlers today and so did the Pakistani batsmen in Oman :) so don't get carried away, actually I take that back do get carried away.... That's when India loses and feels the sweetest. 23 ODI wc final comes to mind how ghamaand of billion Indians was shattered into billion pieces when Australia defeated India in front of 100k Indians
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The world has moved on to 2025 with India winning the last two icc events -UNDEFEATED- while all Pakistanis can gloat about - ct17 and 2013 brother :dw

India lost 2023 to an Australian side, you know an actual Champion side. Why are you going ga ga about it? You lost to Afghan in that world cup lol

SL thrashed India, Oman thrashed India :dw Brother, let me ask you again..who was the winner?btw its 35-3 in last 38 games for India

India will win the Asia Cup undefeated and nothing a Minnow team like Pakistan do about it than do some cringe tiktok moments to fool their awaam.
 
GoogleToggle said:
The world has moved on to 2025 with India winning the last two icc events -UNDEFEATED- while all Pakistanis can gloat about - ct17 and 2013 brother :dw

India lost 2023 to an Australian side, you know an actual Champion side. Why are you going ga ga about it? You lost to Afghan in that world cup lol

SL thrashed India, Oman thrashed India :dw Brother, let me ask you again..who was the winner?btw its 35-3 in last 38 games for India

India will win the Asia Cup undefeated and nothing a Minnow team like Pakistan do about it than do some cringe tiktok moments to fool their awaam.
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It doesn't matter who wins the match, all it takes is the opposition batsman to score some runs against our bowlers and it can be labelled a trashing. 🐒 🐒​
 
Hitman said:
It doesn't matter who wins the match, all it takes is the opposition batsman to score some runs against our bowlers and it can be labelled a trashing. 🐒 🐒​
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New Trend in Pak SM is "Farhan owns Bumrah"

I some times feel bad for them, but when your team has nothing to show in world cricket these days, it is okay for people to cling on to such things ..I guess
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Dude you are always arrogant against teams like BD, Afghanistan, Srilanka. People predict based on how these teams have been doing well. INdia has entered conseuctive multi national tournaments without dropping a game and won 2. So expecting them to beat pakistan easily is not arrogance. Betting odds say India has 80% chance. Go to any betting website and check the odds. Projection based on certain metrics, recent form. If the name is Australia instead of India with same odds and if Australian is confident you won't call that arrogance.
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Indians are, Pakistanis are not.

You made the claim we were arrogant before the Asia Cup 2022 final, back that up
 
Nikhil_cric said:
India's last 39 T20Is

Won : 32
Tied : 3 (all won by India)
Lost : 3
Abandoned : 1


That's a fairly dominant record over the last 2 years
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Momin Prediction record since Eng vs India series. (YES I WAS COUNTING)

Correct Predictions: 1
Wrong predictions: 55
Ironic predictions: 32

Ironic predictions are those predictions where the player instantly does the opposite as soon as I claim it.
 
Pakistan should do everything to stop abhishek and middle order is under pressure which Pakistan can take advantage of .
 
Pakistan and India are facing each other for the first time in Asia Cup finals.

Both countries have been going through some rough times as always but both countries have been staying strong and trying their hardest to do better.

On one hand we have Pakistan, going through its most corrupted cricket board but any tournament win always brings smile to the public and that's what cricket in Pakistan is all about. No one will remember under who's board Pakistan won a major tournament.

On the other hand, we have India who is already suffering from getting its 6 planes downed and losing billions in the process. And not only that they also are facing shame and being shunned from major countries and not being taken seriously by them anymore. Things at India so bad that the indian captain couldn't control his emotions and started babbling about the incident in the press conference.

maybe this Asia Cup win will put smiles on indian faces and they would think this is revenge for 6-0 in their mind.
 
pal mein tola, pal mein masha.

the evergreen story of Pakistan fans and hence their cricket too.

Consistency is never even appreciated by Pak, hence their handling of Babar, only capable Batsman from Pak in a few decades.

If cricket was a company, then India would Ceo and Pak would be fired long back for severe incompetence and attitude issues.
 
Kriketer said:
We remeber the talk Indians had before CT final and Pak humiliated India in the only major tournament final both ever played. India is not invincible and likes of Rohit and Kholi are not there, other than Gill all other will be walking wickets if Pak bowls smart.

SL trashed your bowlers today and so did the Pakistani batsmen in Oman :) so don't get carried away, actually I take that back do get carried away.... That's when India loses and feels the sweetest. 23 ODI wc final comes to mind how ghamaand of billion Indians was shattered into billion pieces when Australia defeated India in front of 100k Indians
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atleast we do get to the finals, always among the top 2 teams in the tournaments.

and i would stop watching cricket if India plays like Pak.... thats just embarrassing
 
Red-Indian said:
At a certain level, you've got to admire the Pakistanis. Especially folks like that Glory guy. They've been thrashed again and again for years and yet they come into every game with renewed enthusiasm and innocent confidence that this is the time their bunch of plucky misfits are going to do it.

This time they're up against possibly the greatest T20 team in history or if not, certainly the one with the most incredible record but the sweet belief that their jazba and junoon can overcome is still there.

I wouldn't have it any other way to be honest. If they were the Bangladeshis who also have a chip on their shoulder about us and want desperately to beat India but go into every game expecting to lose, it wouldn't be half as fun.

Most others would've despaired years ago but these guys just keep going and making the games fun. I do hope they win the odd game to continue the energy. Just not this one!
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This made me chuckle. We are a mediocre team no doubt about it. If the opposition aren’t shafting us then our own board does it. But occasionally we can punch above our weight when the stars align. If you want to think of a lower ranked team beating an almost invincible opposition then disappearing back into mediocrity just think of the 1983 World Cup.
 
People bringing up the '83 World Cup should remember that we tend to over rate the past and the Windies ODI team of 83 were not as invincible as many.

Nor were India as weak.
 
Why doesn't India play harshit rana and arshdeep singh against Pakistan? They also want to play in these kind of games. So far they have missed out on both of them.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
Why doesn't India play harshit rana and arshdeep singh against Pakistan? They also want to play in these kind of games. So far they have missed out on both of them.
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Bro what were you going to do to me if Pakistan lost the other day?

I’m still waiting to know
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Track record doesn't change the fact that it was a heavily chasing friendly track. Pandya or no Pandya, India was losing that match.
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India's balance got screwed up. Tail became longer. India could have very well played Ashwin in place of Siraj had he played. Ashwin vs left hander would have been a good match up.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
India's balance got screwed up. Tail became longer. India could have very well played Ashwin in place of Siraj had he played. Ashwin vs left hander would have been a good match up.
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It doesn't matter who we played. We prepared a dry, black soil track. Such wickets get significantly better under lights even if there's a hint of moisture/dew.

Ashwin would've been smashed under lights when the pitch became very even.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Indians are, Pakistanis are not.

You made the claim we were arrogant before the Asia Cup 2022 final, back that up
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Here is a comment right after Pakistan won the toss in 2022 final

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Nikhil_cric said:
It doesn't matter who we played. We prepared a dry, black soil track. Such wickets get significantly better under lights even if there's a hint of moisture/dew.

Ashwin would've been smashed under lights when the pitch became very even.
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No no. Australian batting unit was just one man show. Nobody else belonged to ODI set up. It is insane to lose to a team that had guys like Labu, over the hill Smith , chancy Maxwell
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Pak media seems very optimistic, everyone is saying ind will have a bad day on Sunday
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As a Pakistani. I can tell you that fans feel like they have nothing to lose. It's like there is no pressure. Team already lost twice to India and know objectively that India is a better T20I side at the moment.

So all the pressure is actually on India to not fumble on this last step.
 
Let's see passion we haven't seen in recent years. Full on verbal assault on the Inds, passionate bowling and fielding and no meekness in batting. Agha to lead from the front.
 
Kriketer said:
We remeber the talk Indians had before CT final and Pak humiliated India in the only major tournament final both ever played. India is not invincible and likes of Rohit and Kholi are not there, other than Gill all other will be walking wickets if Pak bowls smart.

SL trashed your bowlers today and so did the Pakistani batsmen in Oman :) so don't get carried away, actually I take that back do get carried away.... That's when India loses and feels the sweetest. 23 ODI wc final comes to mind how ghamaand of billion Indians was shattered into billion pieces when Australia defeated India in front of 100k Indians
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CT Final 2017
T20 Final 2007
 
I was recommended the highlights of Asia Cup in my YT feed and my jaw dropped when I saw that the highlights of Ind vs. Pak had almost 50M views.

Like damn son.
 
India will be superconfident to make it 3-0, Asia Cup is basically a bilateral IndoPak series with some buffer games of other teams.

Pakistan on paper look weak and out against India, let's see if Agha can turn them into cornered tigers
 
Kriketer said:
We remeber the talk Indians had before CT final and Pak humiliated India in the only major tournament final both ever played. India is not invincible and likes of Rohit and Kholi are not there, other than Gill all other will be walking wickets if Pak bowls smart.

SL trashed your bowlers today and so did the Pakistani batsmen in Oman :) so don't get carried away, actually I take that back do get carried away.... That's when India loses and feels the sweetest. 23 ODI wc final comes to mind how ghamaand of billion Indians was shattered into billion pieces when Australia defeated India in front of 100k Indians
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t20 wc 2007?

wcc 1985?

lol
 
Top 3 highest scores by Pakistani batters vs India in T20Is:

1. Mohammad Rizwan - 79* (2022)
2. Mohammad Rizwan - 71 (2022)
3. Babar Azam - 68* (2022)

Top 3 highest scores by Indian batters vs Pakistan in T20Is:
1. Virat Kohli - 82* (2022)
2. Virat Kohli - 78* (2012)
3. Gautam Gambhir - 75 (2007)

India vs Pakistan Head to head in T20IS

M - 15 , Won by India -12 , Pakistan -3

This show how important was Babar/ rizwan for Pakistan team against India.

Babar/ Rizwan were the top scorer twice when they defeated India in T20IS

:kp
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
I was recommended the highlights of Asia Cup in my YT feed and my jaw dropped when I saw that the highlights of Ind vs. Pak had almost 50M views.

Like damn son.
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Check Nidahas Trophy 2018 final highlights on Lankan cricket board YouTube channel. You're going to be sell shocked :klopp :kp
 
Falconslions said:
CT Final 2017
T20 Final 2007
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Good catch...Mis bah 5 runs made IPL :Misbah

That was a great T20 final down to the last wicket, unlike CT where Fakhar played an inning of a lifetime. India was being hyped a lot before CT hence losing it in that fashion was memorable, repeat of it tomorrow will be nice to see but I am certainly not positive. This Indian team doesn't look as strong so they can be rolled over if Pak mental midgets don't panic
 
Pak vs ind final is still a huge occasion. People generally have a preferred atmosphere to enjoy such matches, some prefer screenings, some make family and friends events around the game, and some just like to watch alone.

So what’s your plan to watch this match?

I am watching with some friends, we’ve converted an already planned meet-up to a watch the match event.
 
India should win this match. They just have too many game-changers to all fail at once.

Kuldeep, Bumrah, Abhishek, Tilak, Pandya, Varun. SKY has been off-color the whole tournament, but if he clicks, he can cause even more damage than Abhishek.

For Pakistan, Shaheen is really the only genuine match-winner. An early top-order collapse in the final is Pak's only realistic chance against this India squad, and only Shaheen looks capable of making that happen.

If Shaheen doesn't click on Sunday Rauf will get smacked too
 
sachin-10dulkar said:
India should win this match. They just have too many game-changers to all fail at once.

Kuldeep, Bumrah, Abhishek, Tilak, Pandya, Varun. SKY has been off-color the whole tournament, but if he clicks, he can cause even more damage than Abhishek.

For Pakistan, Shaheen is really the only genuine match-winner. An early top-order collapse in the final is Pak's only realistic chance against this India squad, and only Shaheen looks capable of making that happen.

If Shaheen doesn't click on Sunday Rauf will get smacked too
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Shaheen is the only one who can still bowl a peach in their side despite being taken apart in several recent encounters by Indian batsmen. Rauf can nick one or two. Infact most of these upset wins happen when top order gets neutralized by some dreamy opening spell.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
People bringing up the '83 World Cup should remember that we tend to over rate the past and the Windies ODI team of 83 were not as invincible as many.

Nor were India as weak.
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Yeah, that's why the West Indies beat the World Champions India 5–0 in India right after the World Cup. :facepalm :inti

#Facts
 
Devadwal said:
Top 3 highest scores by Pakistani batters vs India in T20Is:

1. Mohammad Rizwan - 79* (2022)
2. Mohammad Rizwan - 71 (2022)
3. Babar Azam - 68* (2022)

Top 3 highest scores by Indian batters vs Pakistan in T20Is:
1. Virat Kohli - 82* (2022)
2. Virat Kohli - 78* (2012)
3. Gautam Gambhir - 75 (2007)

India vs Pakistan Head to head in T20IS

M - 15 , Won by India -12 , Pakistan -3

This show how important was Babar/ rizwan for Pakistan team against India.

Babar/ Rizwan were the top scorer twice when they defeated India in T20IS

:kp
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Please tag their hater Rana
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Shaheen is the only one who can still bowl a peach in their side despite being taken apart in several recent encounters by Indian batsmen. Rauf can nick one or two. Infact most of these upset wins happen when top order gets neutralized by some dreamy opening spell.
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Shaheen, Rauf, and/or Abrar can take a cluster of wickets quickly in these conditions. A few good performances can alter the game decisively in the T20 format. I expect the Pakistan team to come out strong in the final and win this Asia Cup. In a way, it could be a wake up call for India to get their team right for the upcoming T20 WC.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
No. That's why India had beaten the West Indies both at Albion earlier and even at Old Trafford in the group stage.
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India had ideal team for 1983 WC. Whole bunch of medium pacers who could utilise the green seaming pitches

West Indies had better team on paper but not necessarily for the conditions on offer. A 125 kph seamer is often more effective in English conditions than 145 kph fast bowlers

So while it was a big upset on paper - it was more of a better prepared team getting better of better team on paper

Not to forget India beat England & Australia as well
 
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NishanKonar said:
India had ideal team for 1983 WC. Whole bunch of medium pacers who could utilise the green seaming pitches

West Indies had better team on paper but not necessarily for the conditions on offer. A 125 kph seamer is often more effective in English conditions than 145 kph fast bowlers

So while it was a big upset on paper - it was more of a better prepared team getting better of better team on paper

Not to forget India beat England & Australia as well
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Even in Benson and hedges India had depth in both departments. People under-estimate the value of it. 1992 world cup Pakistan won thanks to runs from Akram in the backend.
 
Shaheen vs Abhishek seems like the crucial matchup. Get him very early and Pakistan are in the game. Otherwise, he will quickly take the game away from you.

Saim Ayub remains the other key piece in the match. He has been beyond infuriating in this tournament but all will be forgiven if he shows up properly with the bat.

Hoping against all hope that Pakistan can win tomorrow.
 
Some newspapers claim that Pakistan tried to play Babar Azam as a last-minute replacement. According to reports, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) attempted to include Babar Azam in the squad for the Asia Cup 2025 final against India due to Pakistan's disappointing performances. However, the tournament organizers denied the request, citing rules that allow changes only in case of injury
 
Noor79 said:
Some newspapers claim that Pakistan tried to play Babar Azam as a last-minute replacement. According to reports, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) attempted to include Babar Azam in the squad for the Asia Cup 2025 final against India due to Pakistan's disappointing performances. However, the tournament organizers denied the request, citing rules that allow changes only in case of injury
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who are they going to injure? lol Saim or hasan?
 
Noor79 said:
Some newspapers claim that Pakistan tried to play Babar Azam as a last-minute replacement. According to reports, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) attempted to include Babar Azam in the squad for the Asia Cup 2025 final against India due to Pakistan's disappointing performances. However, the tournament organizers denied the request, citing rules that allow changes only in case of injury
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Source please :kp
 
NishanKonar said:
India had ideal team for 1983 WC. Whole bunch of medium pacers who could utilise the green seaming pitches

West Indies had better team on paper but not necessarily for the conditions on offer. A 125 kph seamer is often more effective in English conditions than 145 kph fast bowlers

So while it was a big upset on paper - it was more of a better prepared team getting better of better team on paper

Not to forget India beat England & Australia as well
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Even if you look at the batting , Lloyd and Viv were exceptional but the rest of the lineup wasn't (and I'll get flak for this ) exceptional, including Greenidge and Haynes
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Even if you look at the batting , Lloyd and Viv were exceptional but the rest of the lineup wasn't (and I'll get flak for this ) exceptional, including Greenidge and Haynes
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Greenidge & Haynes were 2 best ODI openers in the 80s

It was a bad day in office for West Indies + India's better preparedness for the pitch
 
Just another day in the office for the Men in Blue.
The green shirts will need to play out of their skin to make this a contest. stating the obvious
:wa

Safe Prediction
Pakistan bat first: 125/9
India chase it down in the 17th over.

Bold Prediction (for the rivalry’s sake)
If India bat first: 163/7
Pakistan take it to a last-ball finish anybody’s game.


Selection Thoughts
Pakistan must take bold decisions.
Hassan Nawaz should open alongside Farhan.
Bring in Muqeem for Abrar . he adds batting depth and has genuine match winning ability.
 
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