[AUDIO/VIDEO] Sarfaraz Ahmed's derogatory comments to Andile Phehlukwayo...

[Ozymandiasza]

Either you are not getting this for real or you are just acting like you don't get it. When you address someone, do you think it is ok to address him by the color of his skin? If you respect someone as equal you would address him by his name or may be even by his profession. You wont ask a Black Man, "Hey B Guy, have you finished your lunch?"
You do not address someone by the color of their skin.

Or you just don't understand.

If you told Faf, "Hey, white guy, what's for lunch?". Do you think he would take offence? Why should Andile take offence to being call black guy with luck? He is a black guy (with luck).

Your outrage culture is pathetic.

 

[ShahKhan007]

If PCB has any dignity they should not only suspend him but sack him with immediate effect. As a immigrant living abroad I am ashamed that this fool is our captain.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

As I mentioned earlier its a term used in the subcontinent to refer to people with dark completion in a derogatory way.

Is it equivalent to the n-word? I've seen many people say it's not.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Might go in Sarf's favour.

Had it been Broad or Boon........

Bhai pata nahin..... Going by this thread, Desi's seem more cheezed off

 

[JaDed]

90% of the PP’ers on here have described new borns in their family or extended family as:

“Ma sha Allah is ka rang bohot Go-ra ha.”

Should we stop using the word N word as well then? Should we stop referring foreigners as G?

Don’t tell me its fine because its used in the correct context - because same one can argue that the N word is fine because its used in songs etc.

Same people arguing what Sarfraz did is racist - probably think G is Ok to say.

Bottom line is Sarfraz was not racist.

The Urdu/Hindi word for white guy is banned on this forum itself, should give you an idea.

And it's a cultural thing we all know what it meant in a cultural context ,don't think Western or Australian countries would care
coz of translation and he would escape with a mild suspension or fine due to this reason.

 

[srh]

Again, that was not what was said. He never issued a command.

Agree with you. Sarfraz's comments would not be consider racist in North America also. On the other hand I do want Sarfraz out of the ODI team so would not complain if he does get a life ban

 

[Pakpak]

Agree with you. Sarfraz's comments would not be consider racist in North America also. On the other hand I do want Sarfraz out of the ODI team so would not complain if he does get a life ban

Yeah ban someone for life if he's not deemed guilty.

The level of IQ of people from our country and then we wonder why we are where we are.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Or you just don't understand.

If you told Faf, "Hey, white guy, what's for lunch?". Do you think he would take offence? Why should Andile take offence to being call black guy with luck? He is a black guy (with luck).

Your outrage culture is pathetic.

You could justify any racism lol by saying what i meant was not racist. Couple of my African american friends don’t find this amusing. Sure it
Probably got lost in translation . You could argue. If someone calls Asian cricketers brown guys they will sure be offended. Not exactly a stellar defense for coded racism.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I do think that white people calling black people the 'N' word carry different connotations than a brown guy calling a black person black. The common perception within Pakistani society is that our religion abolished slavery and therefore we Muslims don't carry the same historical burden of causing miseries and injustices to the black community as compared to the miseries inflicted upon them by the white people.
Relatively speaking, Pakistan is not racially as diverse as some Western countries, therefore our society never had that conversation about racism and boundaries.
However, we had the chance to free ourselves of racism in the aftermath of the fall of Dhaka but as we all know, that is also treated as foreign conspiracy in majority of the political and educational discourses .
So i don't think Saifi was consciously being racist. Its just that our society never had that conversation and Saifi is the reflection of that society.

 

[xricket]

Happy to see Sarfraz go. Would love to see Rizwan in the side, he is much fit and better batsmen

 

[BreadPakoda]

Is it equivalent to the n-word? I've seen many people say it's not.

I’m not too sure. Doesn’t the n-word mean black too?

 

[iPakistani]

It's sounds really bad and there is no room for any racist comments in this sport esp towards a South African player!

However I dont believe Sarfraz is being intentionally racist as such words are a figure of speech.

Most Pakistani posters on this forum has used such language. Sure this needs to change but it's unfair to say he meant it in a racist manner.

He’s the captain of a national team that represents us across the entire globe. If he can speak like this on the pitch literally shouting it brainlessly he deserves the punishment.

 

[waleed88]

Stupid remarks from Sarfraz. Wont be surprised if hes banned. This is a result of his unchecked verbal tirades. If caught we can see a big ban and alot of unwanted controversy for this team. Not ideal for the world cup

 

[Ozymandiasza]

I’m not too sure. Doesn’t the n-word mean black too?

Surely you're aware that the n-word has negative connotations...

 

[Rayyman]

I found humor out of this. Y'all need to get a life.

 

[Hamza_]

Any action against him thus far ?

 

[xricket]

Agree with you. Sarfraz's comments would not be consider racist in North America also. On the other hand I do want Sarfraz out of the ODI team so would not complain if he does get a life ban

LMAO. I also want him to go. if it weren't for worldcup, I would have loved someone to kick him out of the team

 

[Khan12]

Hopefully he's banned the only way we can get rid of him.

 

[a_tahir]

Agree with you. Sarfraz's comments would not be consider racist in North America also. On the other hand I do want Sarfraz out of the ODI team so would not complain if he does get a life ban

Come on man.
That is just too harsh that u want a life ban on him.
It might just be a slip of the tongue

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

Disgusting. Disgusting. Disgusting.

Should be suspended for this and I think shown the door. If we give him a chance it means Pakistan supports this. Awful.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Agree with you. Sarfraz's comments would not be consider racist in North America also. On the other hand I do want Sarfraz out of the ODI team so would not complain if he does get a life ban

Thank you, fellow sensible person.

 

[Hasan123]

I found humor out of this. Y'all need to get a life.

If someone of colour is offended by this comment , would you still find it funny?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

However, i do believe that it was really pathetic behavior by sarfraz.

 

[Sirris]

I’m not sure about many people on here. But last week a police man approached me and mentioned whether I had seen a “a black tall and broad man with a NYC Cap roaming around moments ago?”

On Sky News/BBC news you will see the term Black/White used as well if identity is unknown.

Point is, what Sarfraz said was “offensive” and “not professional.” BUT, in no way was it racist as he did NOT drop the N word. Forget the intentions, we can only look to the facts of what he said, and that is the bottom line.

Yes, he does not have many fans, yes he lacks education, yes he does not speak like Shan Masood and yes he has underperformed as a captain and player but PLEASE don’t downgrade a player so much that you are using the racial card against him.

Not so long ago fans in the crowd were using fake beards to resemble Amla, was that deemed racist? Was it turned into a issue by Amla/SA? Should that stop as well? So many sensitive people on here.

The issue is you are taking the literal meaning and applying it to a western context. There is no 'N' word in urdu and saying the 'N' word or not saying it isn't what makes you a racist. Your mindset and attitude towards others is far more important. The historic background around the 'N' word has no relevance and doesn't apply to Pakistan and its history. I also don't really care about the legality and intellectual debate about what is "racism".

Some people and even many from our neighboring nation might intend to make the most out of this situation and use it for their own personal agenda. I don't care whether Sarfaraz gets charged for being legally "racist" or otherwise offensive. However I wish we the people of Pakistan and India would critically reflect on the issue.

In our context the word is used to asserts one's superiority over the other just based on skin color. This to me is in a nutshell "racism" in our context. Since at the end of the day we are mostly one "race" or a mix of multiple albeit being from different ethnic background.

Due to such a widespread mentality how many young girls have developed an inferiority complex where they are spending tons of money on creams and remedies and what not just to be make their skin one shade brighter. No matter how much you tell them they won't feel better about themselves and have developed strong psychological issues. It is a big issue plaguing our society and we are so non-chalant about it.

Now we are a cricket mad nation and our player, no matter who, demonstrating this mindset and reinforcing it is what is so damaging about this incident.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Surely you're aware that the n-word has negative connotations...

Yes, but I guess the word still means “black”. Just wanted to confirm. In a very similar way, what Sarfu said means “black” too but it has negative connotations. Its a little complicated - unfortunately, dark coloured people are looked down upon by a number of people in this part of the world and so they don’t like getting addressed by the k-word.

 

[iPakistani]

As a guy living in the UK to see my national captain who represents my country going around behaving and uttering rubbish like this is so so embarrasing. Not professional whatsoever, get him out of here.

 

[Birdman]

Or you just don't understand.

If you told Faf, "Hey, white guy, what's for lunch?". Do you think he would take offence? Why should Andile take offence to being call black guy with luck? He is a black guy (with luck).

Your outrage culture is pathetic.

If he your buddy, yes he will be ok with it, but I would not address a person I am not close with by color of their skin. Also white people were not discriminated and dehumanized based on color of their skin. A white person may laugh it off if I address a unknown white person as "White Guy" a black person may not take it very easy to be addressed by color their skin, because that was the very reason why they were considered sub humans and segregated and discriminated.

I understand Safraz was not racially targeting Phehlukwayo here, it is very common in Sub Continent to address people by color, by their deformities or even by their disabilities. As a international captain he should know better and it a major faux pas.

 

[leatherface58]

To all those posters defending Sarfraz, ask yourself would you refer to a coloured person as black man or white man at work or in public? Do you think that’s an appropriate way to call someone?


Also posters saying this is common in Asia, we are playing in South Africa. Do you think they call people by the colour of their skin? Furthermore imagine if Phehlukwayo is offended, what would posters say then? Oh it’s common to call people black man . You don’t refer to people on sporting pitches by the colour of their skin on national Television. Whilst you may not think this is an issue, the people of South Africa and around the world may see this as a big issue.

I guess people defending this have never had a proper job or are in an environment where such behavior is accepted.

 

[rhony]

I’m not too sure. Doesn’t the n-word mean black too?

N word is related to slavery. Saying " a black man was killed" in news is not dereogatory. It's Abey Kaaley" that will get him into trouble. It's like calling a black guy on the street, "hey black guy". Who does that to a fellow sportsman. He was addressing Phekluk directly there in a foreign language derogatorily in SA where race relations are a huge issue.

 

[BreadPakoda]

The biggest question is....Why on Earth would you say all this when you know the guy cant understand Urdu?

 

[Hasan123]

I guess people defending this have never had a proper job or are in an environment where such behavior is accepted.

I work in a multi cultural environment, I and my other colleagues would never go up to them and say, hey brown/black/white man/woman how are you? I’m sure this is the case in other places of work and in a public environment. So I don’t see why this should be accepted on a cricket field.

 

[Big Mac]

Either you are not getting this for real or you are just acting like you don't get it. When you address someone, do you think it is ok to address him by the color of his skin? If you respect someone as equal you would address him by his name or may be even by his profession. You wont ask a Black Man, "Hey B Guy, have you finished your lunch?"
You do not address someone by the color of their skin.

I dunno, you reckon the poster that has invoked "outrage culture" and "liberal bullying" in this thread might not be arguing in good faith when they keep claiming not to understand what was said while simultaneously stating with absolute certainty that it's not offensive.

I wonder...

 

[srh]

Yes, but I guess the word still means “black”. Just wanted to confirm. In a very similar way, what Sarfu said means “black” too but it has negative connotations. Its a little complicated - unfortunately, dark coloured people are looked down upon by a number of people in this part of the world and so they don’t like getting addressed by the k-word.

black word != "N" word

 

[BreadPakoda]

N word is related to slavery. Saying " a black man was killed" in news is not dereogatory. It's Abey Kaaley" that will get him into trouble. It's like calling a black guy on the street, "hey black guy". Who does that to a fellow sportsman. He was addressing Phekluk directly there in a foreign language derogatorily in SA where race relations are a huge issue.

The word itself means black. Derived from a Latin word which also means black.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Please ICC ban this guy till atleast the end of the world cup. Pathetic behaviour from sarfraz.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Ignorance/over excitement isn’t an excuse for racism

Imagine if the roles were reversed

 

[Hasan123]

Even if you don’t think it’s racist, it is at the very least very offensive.

Posters on here ask yourself this, would you go up to a black man and say hey black man how are you? No you wouldn’t.

I am willing to accept it may not be racist but they can be seen as offensive comments. And do you want a captain like this?

Absolutely done with Sarfraz . Sack him asap.

 

[Sirris]

Surely you're aware that the n-word has negative connotations...

It has a negative connotation only in the western world and those exposed to its culture due to globalism. Go to a rural area in Pakistan and ask them about the word and they wouldn't know. Similarly the word sarfraz used has negative connotation in our part of the world and you can try referring to a stranger on a street in Pakistan with this word and you won't be replied in a friendly manner no matter how dark colored the person really be.

The hypocrisy I see from all the "bad boys" in here and wanna be big Gs with a skin as thick as the polar bear is that had it been the opposite like Faf calling Sarfraz "hey black guy what's the matter why can't you hit a boundary" they would not be so chilled about it.

 

[BreadPakoda]

black word != "N" word

The N word means black too if you look at its origins.
nekw-, "to be dark", akin to *nokw-, "night"

I’m not comparing the two words at all. Come on, I know that.

Was just pointing out what I read about the origin of the N word.

 

[rhony]

The word itself means black. Derived from a Latin word which also means black.

It does. However it has historic significance and was.related to slavery

 

[jnaveen1980]

Since it is already everywhere he should just issue apology Especially to Phelu as a start.

 

[BreadPakoda]

It has a negative connotation only in the western world and those exposed to its culture due to globalism. Go to a rural area in Pakistan and ask them about the word and they wouldn't know. Similarly the word sarfraz used has negative connotation in our part of the world and you can try referring to a stranger on a street in Pakistan with this word and you won't be replied in a friendly manner no matter how dark colored the person really be.

Thank you. This is what I was trying to say. You explained it better than I could.

 

[Birdman]

The word itself means black. Derived from a Latin word which also means black.

Yup, please go to Bronx and say that word and give that explanation and let us know how it goes.

 

[BreadPakoda]

It does. However it has historic significance and was.related to slavery

Yup, please go to Bronx and say that word and give that explanation and let us know how it goes.

Lol. Of course, I know that. How ridiculous.

I was just mentioning about the origin of the word.

 

[BDfanforever]

He is dumb, most likely did it unintentionally. Does he not realize there are mics near keepers?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I guess people defending this have never had a proper job or are in an environment where such behavior is accepted.

Sure, having another opinion means you haven't had a job lol.

With respect, you dont understand the culture. It's not like a redneck out of Missisippi saying this. It's a Pakistani in his own language using a term which may not be right but doesn't mean there is intent of racism.

 

[Hasan123]

Posters in this thread defending this clown, please go up to a black man or woman. And call them black man or black woman. Then see how they respond and please tell me they won’t be offended.

You have no shame for defending Sarfraz.

 

[Syed1]

Yeah what he said was bad, but to liken it to the n-word



Lots of snowflakes on here.

 

[Sirris]

N word is related to slavery. Saying " a black man was killed" in news is not dereogatory. It's Abey Kaaley" that will get him into trouble. It's like calling a black guy on the street, "hey black guy". Who does that to a fellow sportsman. He was addressing Phekluk directly there in a foreign language derogatorily in SA where race relations are a huge issue.

Many people in here aren't making sense because there is a cultural difference which they aren't able to explain property. The 'N' word doesn't exist in our part of the world especially not before the western cultural influence and amongst the older generation. Now does that mean we aren't a racist nation? Of course not.

In our society the word sarfraz used is the closest we have to the 'N' word. That's the bitter truth. Unless someone here can prove that there is another word in urdu which is used to imply racism in the same way 'N' word does it.

 

[srh]

Yeah ban someone for life if he's not deemed guilty.

The level of IQ of people from our country and then we wonder why we are where we are.

Come on man.
That is just too harsh that u want a life ban on him.
It might just be a slip of the tongue

Sarfraz does not make the team on merit so he should be out of the team. This we can all agree yes?

I dont want a life ban on him for racism. I know Sarfraz is not racist and I know what he said is also not racist. But he did commit a serious mistake by saying those words and now its up to ICC & PCB. If they do ban him for racism then in a strange way it results in what every Pak fan want. got it?

 

[Mirpur express]

Surely he didn’t mean to be racist but being the captain of a national side he should’ve known better.. in hindsight welcome Rizwan

 

[Ozymandiasza]

It has a negative connotation only in the western world and those exposed to its culture due to globalism. Go to a rural area in Pakistan and ask them about the word and they wouldn't know. Similarly the word sarfraz used has negative connotation in our part of the world and you can try referring to a stranger on a street in Pakistan with this word and you won't be replied in a friendly manner no matter how dark colored the person really be.

The hypocrisy I see from all the "bad boys" in here and wanna be big Gs with a skin as thick as the polar bear is that had it been the opposite like Faf calling Sarfraz "hey black guy what's the matter why can't you hit a boundary" they would not be so chilled about it.

There is a clear cultural difference here. We've had clear colour classifications in South Africa for decades. Calling someone black, in the connotation I read it in, and the exact word that was used, I do not see as racist.

 

[iPakistani]

You can tell who’s uneducated on this thread, finding it a funny situation or not taking it seriously.

This man is your national captain, he shouldn’t be blabbering stuff like that end off.

 

[Green Patriot]

Lol at people making fun of Ramiz for not handling that properly.

It was embarrasing and there was no way he could have translated that on air to the South African commentators.
He was put on the spotlight and IMO he handled it well.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Posters in this thread defending this clown, please go up to a black man or woman. And call them black man or black woman. Then see how they respond and please tell me they won’t be offended.

You have no shame for defending Sarfraz.

This is the type of hype argument which is poor. If I went to a black person and said , 'As a black person..how do you feel about Trump?'...does this mean Im racist?

Here this is the definition of racism according to Oxford.

"Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

One has to be pretty stupid to think Sarfraz was intentionally being racist.

 

[Syed1]

Many people in here aren't making sense because there is a cultural difference which they aren't able to explain property. The 'N' word doesn't exist in our part of the world especially not before the western cultural influence and amongst the older generation. Now does that mean we aren't a racist nation? Of course not.

In our society the word sarfraz used is the closest we have to the 'N' word. That's the bitter truth. Unless someone here can prove that there is another word in urdu which is used to imply racism in the same way 'N' word does it.

The reason we do not have the N-word equivalent in our language is because we did not have black slaves. The N-word originates from white overlords showing the inferior to their slaves who were of African origin. To liken the word kaley to the N-word is wrong on many levels. Kaley can be equivalent to calling someone blacky in english. Yes it is wrong, and a tad racist, but no where near as bad as the n-word.

 

[Sirris]

Yeah what he said was bad, but to liken it to the n-word



Lots of snowflakes on here.

We don't have and will never have the same thing what the Americans have in the 'N' word since we never persecuted the African slaves as the Americans did.

The reference is only to make a point. Just like the 'N' word is used to express one's superiority and another's inferiority likewise we have a habit of referring to another as "Kaala" which is mostly done behind the other person's back unless it is meant as joke to a friend.

 

[Mirpur express]

Ps surely Rambo would’ve translated that to the comentry team as he was asked straight away

 

[BDfanforever]

He should publicly apologize to Andile Pheluk and clear any misunderstandings.

 

[Sirris]

The reason we do not have the N-word equivalent in our language is because we did not have black slaves. The N-word originates from white overlords showing the inferior to their slaves who were of African origin. To liken the word kaley to the N-word is wrong on many levels. Kaley can be equivalent to calling someone blacky in english. Yes it is wrong, and a tad racist, but no where near as bad as the n-word.

I made the same argument at exactly the same minute.

 

[Dark Magician]

Woah. There are actual posters on this forum defending racism and giving it context. I'm shook.

 

[srh]

Many people in here aren't making sense because there is a cultural difference which they aren't able to explain property. The 'N' word doesn't exist in our part of the world especially not before the western cultural influence and amongst the older generation. Now does that mean we aren't a racist nation? Of course not.

In our society the word sarfraz used is the closest we have to the 'N' word. That's the bitter truth. Unless someone here can prove that there is another word in urdu which is used to imply racism in the same way 'N' word does it.

wrong. In Urdu language there is only 1 word for "Black" and thats "kaala" and it is the same word Sarfraz used. In Urdu language there is no equivalent word for English's "N" word. Know your Urdu.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Woah. There are actual posters on this forum defending racism and giving it context. I'm shook.

Racism is racism. No denying it. No defending it. But ignoring the context of racism is ignoring its historical footprint and by extension its significance.

 

[Saj]

I think those concerned about me translating into English what he said need to realise this was on worldwide TV and that the ICC has many multi-lingual staff.

Therefore ICC would have got hold of this regardless of my translation.

 

[rhony]

Many people in here aren't making sense because there is a cultural difference which they aren't able to explain property. The 'N' word doesn't exist in our part of the world especially not before the western cultural influence and amongst the older generation. Now does that mean we aren't a racist nation? Of course not.

In our society the word sarfraz used is the closest we have to the 'N' word. That's the bitter truth. Unless someone here can prove that there is another word in urdu which is used to imply racism in the same way 'N' word does it.

I dont think anybody believes Sarf is a racist. The way it was framed, it was out of frustration or he was cracking a joke. But sportsmen are held to higher standards because of sensitivity training they receive. There is no need to start looking for urdu words. He cant call somebody by their color or religion. Simple stuff really. There should have been a damage control mechanism by the PR team and I don't see any apology yet.

 

[MMHS]

Sarfraz fans rave about his on-field "aggression" but as we see in his press statements his brain has no control over the contents of mouth and doesn't know when to draw the line.

In 1977 when Mushtaq Mohammad's team toured Australia, skipper was aware, after the bruising (physical and verbal) they received on the last tour, of the need to stand up to the Aussies. The guys sledged the hell out of the Australians with the captain leading from the front.

After the series ended, and a creditable draw, Mushtaq went into Australian dressing room and had a drink with his opponents (unthinkable in today's age of "First of all thanks to Almighty" post-Zia inspired era). It's not just that Mushy was educated but he was socially intelligent with stints in County and WSC, and experienced different environments.

With Sarfraz it's not just a lack of education. Not many of our guys play overseas in these leagues and gain awareness of different cultures and understand social norms in different part of the worlds. So you see Sarfraz with this galli mohalla language.

I'd have thought PSL would've helped in this regard, but some leopards don't change their spots.

That Social Intelligence part is extremely important. We (Muslims) often can't differentiate between religion and socialization, but one has to find a way to balance. For that, you need to know the rituals and norms in different society (also, how much your religion allows you), what is acceptable and what not. I am sure, during his playing days Imran has thrown anything & every thing while bowling, but he definitely knew the "must avoidable" words, gestures. Sarfraz doesn't come from Imran's background, but sadly he doesn't have the attitude (& intelligence) to learn it either. Otherwise, in south Asia, the generation before us (our fathers), many of the Govt. High Officials came up from very humble back-ground, but they learnt gradually these social skills. I still can remember, when I was kid, some of my dad's friends/juniors used to come to our house to learn how to tie knots from mom!!!!!!

 

[Pakpak]

Sarfraz does not make the team on merit so he should be out of the team. This we can all agree yes?

I dont want a life ban on him for racism. I know Sarfraz is not racist and I know what he said is also not racist. But he did commit a serious mistake by saying those words and now its up to ICC & PCB. If they do ban him for racism then in a strange way it results in what every Pak fan want. got it?

Then say that. What you said ''hehe ban him so he wont be in the team anyway''.

 

[Pakpak]

He should publicly apologize to Andile Pheluk and clear any misunderstandings.

I agree. I don't think Sarfi meant to be racist but the best way is that.

 

[MMHS]

If sarfaraz gets banned, Hafeez will surely become captain.
I agree that captain should be someone who can carry himself with grace but we don't Misbah and Azhar acha bacha types either.
Saj bhai's tweet could have been avoided. Sarfaraz did not had any malicious intent, at worst he was being impolite.

I was thinking so as well Remember, I always said that MoHa is one slip away from Sarfraz to lead PAK again. Still can happen - PCB might appoint him deputy in WC and Sarfraz suddenly gets "injured".

 

[Oxfordchamp]

It will be a blessing in disguise if he gets banned for few games..

 

[loves_cricket]

Sarfraz is not racist but definitely stupid
What he said may sound bad, but not by any stretch of imagination racist.
Unfortunately as a captain of national team should have been more careful.
Smart thing now to do is personally explain and apologize to concerned people

 

[Hasan123]

This is the type of hype argument which is poor. If I went to a black person and said , 'As a black person..how do you feel about Trump?'...does this mean Im racist?

Here this is the definition of racism according to Oxford.

"Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

One has to be pretty stupid to think Sarfraz was intentionally being racist.

I don't think Sarfraz was being rasict which I said in a earlier post.

That is your only argument that it isn't rasict .

It is not acceptable to go up to someone and call them black man. And your example is pathetic. Because you are saying as a black person how do you feel about something. You aren't starting this sentence by saying "black man".

Stop being a Pakistani apologist. It isn't rasict but what he said was offensive. If people think it's rasict, I wont sit here all day and say it isn't because this clown represents Pakistan.

It's fact if this was an Indian or Australian you would change your tune. So certainly won't be taking your opnion on this seriously and your example was pretty pathetic.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Even if it was VIRAT I would've said sack him as a captain.

He should be sacked right now and a ban of 3 months.

You can't have racists as role models to public.

 

[CricFan2012]

It's about time that south asians finally get under fire for stuff like this.

I hear this stuff from people like my parents when they describe white or black people all the time.

This is hopefully going to change the peoples perception and educate them more, humans are more than just colours.

 

[Syed1]

Even if it was VIRAT I would've said sack him as a captain.

He should be sacked right now and a ban of 3 months.

You can't have racists as role models to public.

Well you guys have no problem with him abusing players mothers and sisters.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

I think those concerned about me translating into English what he said need to realise this was on worldwide TV and that the ICC has many multi-lingual staff.

Therefore ICC would have got hold of this regardless of my translation.

Clearly it was said with negative intent and content.

Shameful stuff.

 

[Snowflake]

Even if it was VIRAT I would've said sack him as a captain.

He should be sacked right now and a ban of 3 months.

You can't have racists as role models to public.

Right! You can't have racists as role models but you sure can have potty-mouth individuals who would abuse your ma and behan at a whim as role models, right?

Your opinion would hold some weight if it wasn't soaked in hypocrisy!

 

[Sirris]

wrong. In Urdu language there is only 1 word for "Black" and thats "kaala" and it is the same word Sarfraz used. In Urdu language there is no equivalent word for English's "N" word. Know your Urdu.

You are being legalistic instead of looking at the bigger picture and the heart of the issue which is pretty relevant in the Pakistani society.

If your intention is to defend Sarfraz or damage control then that's up to you, my intentions aren't to capitalize on Sarfraz's mistake and bring him down as a player. My intentions are to use the opportunity to bring up an issue and a harmful mindset which is a norm in our society and which's reflection can be seen in Sarfaraz's behavior and those who are all to eager to play it down.

 

[kingusama92]

Your national team captain can't be using language like this. It's unacceptable.

I don't know about racist or not, but certainly downright stupid.

 

[ar2020]

What an utter idiot. A very very dumb person. He does realize the opponent doesn't understand a squat of Urdu right?