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Perth93 said:
How bcci would've handled this:

"Sarfraz merely called him Kallis, out of respect for andile the all-rounder, but because of his lisp, Kallis sounded like kaale. Accusing sarfraz of racism is racism itself, making fun of Asian accents and people with lisp."

Case closed.

#KallisNotKaale #Maaki #helpsarfraz
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This is legendary!
 
Apart from racial taunts like the one Sarfaraz used, I'm amazed how most Pakistanis have no qualms using insensitive casteist slurs like 'churraa' 'chamaar' 'bhangi' etc on Television. In India you're jailed for saying those words.

In the last 3-4 yearls, there's been a visible progress in India towards eliminating casual racism in the mainstream media. Comedians & TV channels have had to apologise for
making jokes on dark skin. Fairness creams commercials now only promise to bring glow on skin & no they longer show a dark skin person as inferior. Channels like NDTV have stopped airing Fairness cream commercials.
 
ManFan said:
I’m not condoning his actions and have stated multiple times in more than one thread that it was uncalled for and quite frankly, dumb.

But it is not a racist term like some people would have you believe as it is a very common word in the vocabulary of the sub-continent.

So and so that it is a name and a recent title of a production.

And has anyone confirmed whether Phehlukwayo, the man this was directed towards, feels offended by it?

Seems the online community is in far greater rage than the man who had to endure such alleged racist remarks.
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Calling a fat man fat if he's ok with it does not make calling all fat men fat correct.
Racism is never personal, it affects the a larger population.
 
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If it dosent come notice to ICC and CSA then Sarfaraz is very lucky otherwise he is looking at punishment for sure.
Sledging is allowed but racial abuse is not tolerable in today's age.
If he escapes he should feel lucky.

Have a look at how Paine vs Pant banter went. Full of talks and banters but still no one crossed line.
 
charlie007 said:
Calling a fat man fat if he's ok with it does not make calling all fat men fat correct?
Racism is never personal, it affects the a larger population.
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It is always personal because the individual making the remarks directs them toward a singular individual.

But that’s if he makes racist remarks in the first place, which this was not.

I’m going to sleep right now and watch tomorrow if Sarfraz’s world comes crashing down or not for an ill-timed comment that has been mistaken for a derogatory remark.
 
To be honest, Pakistani media, ex test players and fan have highlighted this episode in comparison to the South African viewers, players and experts which is just disgraceful
 
If I am ICC head I would slap 10 year ban on
Hardin Pandaya
Rahul and Sarfaraz.

Son go and learn some manners to be human first , being cricketer is a secondary.
 
Well it's been overnight and nothing has happened to Sarfraz.

Safe to say that he's gotten lucky here?
 
Donal Cozzie said:
At first I thought having asked others that this is a harmless incident where, even if the terms themselves might be racist in isolation, when taken in a cultural context, while they are still derogatory, they werent intended as such, its just what hes used to saying, so, while its not like its innocent, its also not intentionally racist and should be treated as such.

But then I thought, why sledge a guy in a language he wont speak? Maybe he wanted to insult him but did so so he wouldnt understand and thought he would escape scrutiny through the language barrier? I dont know tbh, this aint clear cut and I dont know how often the term is used, from what I hear its used frequently.
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You clearly don't get it. The word kaaaale used in this tone is equal to the N word .
 
Junaids said:
Because it's specifically about why this is a disaster, and how appalling a situation it is for Mickey Arthur as a white South African trying to lead this racist rabble.
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It's mildly puzzling that the most intolerant or hysteric critics of politically incorrect speech are white people who feel that they are responsible for atrocities because of skin colour.

Let me be clear. No one should be ashamed of having a skin colour because other people with that same skin colour did horrible things. It's not your fault.

Secondly, intention and context do matter. I understand that 'black person' can be intended as a slur. However it is not inherently a slur to call someone black, and it's very clear from context that neither did Sarfaraz intend this as an actual insult (very obvious from his tone and to anyone who understands Hindi//Urdu) and it wasn't even perceived as one by Phelukwayo. This hyper-sensitivity and insistence on making a mountain out of a molehill when no one was harmed just exacerbates these sorts of tensions and issues.

This guy is a cricketer, not a history professor. Educate him and move on.
 
Savak said:
To be honest, Pakistani media, ex test players and fan have highlighted this episode in comparison to the South African viewers, players and experts which is just disgraceful
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Because Pakistanis understand how pathetic that was. PCB should take a notice and just like BCCI suspended Pandya and Rahul they should suspend Sarfraz immediately for face saving.
 
Varun said:
Well it's been overnight and nothing has happened to Sarfraz.

Safe to say that he's gotten lucky here?
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They might not understand how racist those remarks were but Pakistani people must make sure Sarfraz doesn't get away with those remarks. PCB must take action against Sarfraz for his incompetency.
 
it be one way to get rid of him for the world cup, he can't handle it
 
CricketAnalyst said:
It's mildly puzzling that the most intolerant or hysteric critics of politically incorrect speech are white people who feel that they are responsible for atrocities because of skin colour.

Let me be clear. No one should be ashamed of having a skin colour because other people with that same skin colour did horrible things. It's not your fault.

Secondly, intention and context do matter. I understand that 'black person' can be intended as a slur. However it is not inherently a slur to call someone black, and it's very clear from context that neither did Sarfaraz intend this as an actual insult (very obvious from his tone and to anyone who understands Hindi//Urdu) and it wasn't even perceived as one by Phelukwayo. This hyper-sensitivity and insistence on making a mountain out of a molehill when no one was harmed just exacerbates these sorts of tensions and issues.

This guy is a cricketer, not a history professor. Educate him and move on.
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Its South Africa.

When I last went (last February) I only got as far as the domestic transfer desk at Johannesburg Airport before I saw an angry white man berate an African checkin agent because he had turned up too late for his connection.

If you don’t understand that you need to show extreme racial sensitivity when in South Africa then you shouldn’t go.
 
ManFan said:
It is always personal because the individual making the remarks directs them toward a singular individual.

But that’s if he makes racist remarks in the first place, which this was not.

I’m going to sleep right now and watch tomorrow if Sarfraz’s world comes crashing down or not for an ill-timed comment that has been mistaken for a derogatory remark.
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Sorry, I meant never "just" personal, it affects a larger population.
I don't think Sarfraz meant it in a racist way, but some things are just so casually taken in our countries that we don't think twice about them, but for others they may mean a lot worse.
Remember, how we have always debated about the "line" when the Aussies abused one and all and when they had to cop it themselves, they were always whining that invisible "line had been crossed".
 
The biggest problem with Sarfraz is he really acts innocent and naiive when he talks in an interview - the problem is we fans and analysts fall for this, call it naievity. The biggest problem with Sarfraz is he knows exactly what he's doing. He just acts like he just can't control himself. That's what he says in interviews and tv shows.

The competitive side in him brings out the worst in him, and this by far is the worst. You are not playing gully cricket anymore Sarfraz and you are 30 years old for godsakes.

I dunno how big an issue PCB wants to create of this, but this could be as big as the ball tempering scandal Australia had if the PCB takes note of this.
 
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Disgusting. No defending this. Strip him from the captaincy and give him a big fine. He cannot captain the team and speak in this manner to another human being.

Racism is one of the red lines that you do not cross. Sarfaraz may not have meant it as an offense - the word kaaley, literally means Black guy - but the whole comment was nonsense and completely unnecessary.
 
Pakistan so very badly needs educated players who know how to behave and carry themselves. When the division happened, it's mostly the educated rich Muslims from India who managed to migrate to Pakistan, and so it was a good middle class society to begin with. WTH has happened to Pakistan now.
 
Junaids said:
Its South Africa.

When I last went (last February) I only got as far as the domestic transfer desk at Johannesburg Airport before I saw an angry white man berate an African checkin agent because he had turned up too late for his connection.

If you don’t understand that you need to show extreme racial sensitivity when in South Africa then you shouldn’t go.
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I don't understand this example. Should he have refrained from berating him only because he was white and the other guy was black? That's absurd. And if you're point is he shouldn't have berated anyone I don't even understand how that's relevant.

Sarfraz is a cricketer. He hasn't taken courses in critical race theory. When it comes to actual definitions of racism, notwithstanding the present hysteria in the Western World intent is crucial. Especially since 'black man' isn't inherently a racist comment unless used as a slur.
 
ManFan said:
Perhaps OP is not aware (don’t blame him), there is a new Indian film titled, “**** Shah ****” coming out.

The title literally translates to, “Black Really (Super) Black”.

It uses the same terminology as Sarfraz did and should be taken into account before dropping the axe.

It’s a common term used in the subcontinent culture to describe people of dark skin.
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A top comment on the trailer of that movie:

We Punjabis are racist.how can someone complexion can describe person's ability. For we Punjabis what matters the most is complexion dudh chetti bahu Howe ..this is just ridiculous.dark complexion don't get married plz don't spread wrong message in society
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I said it from day one, he’s a Karachi Street Cricketer - but some took offence to that. Now you can see for yourselves why.
 
CricketDon said:
Pathetic thread. Op is trying to pain the entire South African white population as racists from 1948. Even though their was plenty of white activists fighting for equality and black rights.

Op sounds like one of them African Americans with a victim mentality.
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So who kept apartheid ticking along? You have no idea what you talking about son. Learn the history of the country before coming on a social platform and talking rubbish. As for victim mentality comment I'm not even gonna respond to that. Stay exposing your hatred of others.
 
You are too close this aspect Junaids, probably coz you protested youreself in England against what happened in SA(IIRC), what Sarfaraz said could or could not be racist but fortunately for him there is no way to really know what he meant coz even to refer to a black person we would use that term, nowagain he could had used his name and said the same thing,but it can be a literal translation.
 
This is what happens when your cricket captain obesses with India and what the Indians are doing. I believe Sarfraz was looking to get cheeky like Rishabh Pant in the India vs Australia test series and it unfortunately back fired.
 
Junaids said:
If you really are from Hermanus then you live in a South African town where only 8% of the population is Black African.

But have you ever been in to the township of Zwelihle? Because if you have you will understand what privileges Phehlukwayo was born without.

And that his parents lived miserable lives of servitude because they had been classified as "black", and no amount of talent or hard work could lead them to a comfortable life. His mother made ends meet by cleaning the toilets of a white family.

I have seen FAF get incredibly uncomfortable when people talk about being "white", specifically in the context of quotas and affirmative action. I have seen him apologise for the old system of classification by race, even though he was just a child.

So yes, I very much believe that any comment about "white" or "black" makes FAF du Plessis squirm. That's not an "outrage culture". That's being sensitive and respectful to people whose own parents and grandparents lives were destroyed by racial classification.
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Of course I've been to Zwelihle... You're trying to lecture me about my own country. It's quite funny.
 
In India being racist , mainly by color is cool ! We do it on regular basis... We tease each others by calling kaalu , **** etc .. hope it is same in Pakistan too...if so, nothing new from Sarfaraz.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
I don't understand this example. Should he have refrained from berating him only because he was white and the other guy was black? That's absurd. And if you're point is he shouldn't have berated anyone I don't even understand how that's relevant.

Sarfraz is a cricketer. He hasn't taken courses in critical race theory. When it comes to actual definitions of racism, notwithstanding the present hysteria in the Western World intent is crucial. Especially since 'black man' isn't inherently a racist comment unless used as a slur.
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My friend, you know I have a deep respect for you in spite of our differences, but you are really illustrating my point.

At Johannesburg Airport a South African white guy had bought a separate domestic SAA ticket home to Cape Town which departed an hour after his arrival from overseas. He got to the transfer desk and tried to check in his luggage for the flight (which was leaving in half an hour and about to board from a different part of the airport.)

He was told he was too late.

And he then started to abuse the African checkin agent, in a condescending and visibly racist way, which included comments like “I can’t believe this country has come to this”. No swear words, but clearly derogatory on the grounds of race.

I was at the next desk. Behind him the passengers were all white or Asian and were horrified. A couple were open-mouthed, one was crying.

The wounds of Apartheid are never far from the surface in South Africa. Visitors have a responsibility to behave with respect and sensitivity.

Sarfraz Ahmed did neither. His behaviour disgusts me, and if the PCB doesn’t take much stronger action than the ICC then I’m done with Pakistan cricket.

It’s not like I’m Pakistani. If they think it’s okay to do this, I’ve got better things to do than follow them.
 
Ozymandiasza said:
Of course I've been to Zwelihle... You're trying to lecture me about my own country. It's quite funny.
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Shall I perhaps link you a few news articles where people are referred to as black and white? The classification system, I'm afraid to say, it still very much alive. Even the "Black African" stat you just pulled is displayed freely on Wikipedia. Why then would calling a black guy "black guy" be racist?

The problem with outrage culture is the manufacturing and exaggeration taking place.

Anyway, here are some articles:

Black businessman who chastised white vagrant was trying to 'break the internet' - https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...ite-vagrant-was-trying-to-break-the-internet/

'My forefathers will kill me if I had to give R2 to a white guy' - https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...l-kill-me-if-i-had-to-give-r2-to-a-white-guy/

Employees call cops on black hotel guest talking on his cellphone - https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/wa...hotel-guest-talking-on-his-cellphone-18645409

As you can see, it's quite common. Of course we don't go around calling each other "white guy" or "black guy" if you know the other person's name. That's rude and weird, I certainly won't call it racist. From what I can tell of the many racist incidents we've had in our new democracy forming a negative generalisation or to liken a race to an animal or object is extremely offesive and racist. The same goes for the k-word. However, "black guy", "black man" or "black" is not racist or offensive. What do you think BEEE stands for?
 
To be fair "kaalay" is just a term used in our culture for a sheeda or black guy , its not a racist word.
But as a captain he should have avoided it.
 
IndianMafia said:
In India being racist , mainly by color is cool ! We do it on regular basis... We tease each others by calling kaalu , **** etc .. hope it is same in Pakistan too...if so, nothing new from Sarfaraz.
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Sorry brother, it was never cool. It was tolerated however and that is fast disappearing too as it should
 
ManFan said:
I’m not condoning his actions and have stated multiple times in more than one thread that it was uncalled for and quite frankly, dumb.

But it is not a racist term like some people would have you believe as it is a very common word in the vocabulary of the sub-continent.

So and so that it is a name and a recent title of a production.

And has anyone confirmed whether Phehlukwayo, the man this was directed towards, feels offended by it?

Seems the online community is in far greater rage than the man who had to endure such alleged racist remarks.
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Doesnt matter if this kind of casual racism is okay in the sub-continent or not- Sarfaraz was not playing in the sub-continent, nor was he addressing his buddy team-mate from his Mohalla; this is definitely not the way of sledging an opposite team player on the field. Whenever you are representing the country overseas, you ought to be careful of not jeopardizing professional standards & this one ultimately crossed the lines.

Anyway, I am curious to see what ICC has to say about this- wonder why they are taking so long to respond.
 
Should be banned for couple of matches for saying "kalley" even if he didn't meant in that context.
 
Several people are trying to defend Sarfaraz on the ground that it is "normal"behaviour in subcontinent. You cannot "ïmpose"your "standards" on others and get away with it. Racism is a very serious offence worldwide. If PCB does not act in this case, ICC certainly will.
 
basitmian said:
so is any kind of swearing.. but that does not let people get in trouble.
If he would have said the F bomb, then what would have people said.
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He had already used the F' word against NZ and nothing happened. No one created a fuss then. His comments are racist stop justifying this behavior if you think calling some one blackman is harmless then why don't you call your fellow US countrymen as blackmen and see what their reaction is.
 
Really bad comments on one person’s race . Always thought that Sarfraj was cool and sober player . After all it’s a game. Emotions should not be running so high
 
Faiz_Ahmad said:
I agree , majority of Pakistani dont like Sarfaraz so they are making big issue of it , dont foget Has Sarfaraz not scored yesterday match would have beenfinsihed by S.A. in 20 overs
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As a player he does not deserve a place in the side. He is averaging 22 since jan 1 2018 and in test cricket too he has been failing. Should go back to domestic on the basis of his lack of performance.
 
Shameful that he doesn't understand his responsibilities as a captain. Should be disciplined, as you can't go around saying such rubbish when you fully well know the stump mics are up.

Kudos to everyone here who are plainting this incident with a racist undertone, but it's clearly not.
 
Fine him or ban him for a match for inappropriate conduct and get over it. Also PCB should appoint a new captain after this series. Sarfaraz has become an embarrassment.
 
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I hope phulawakyo responds the same way ‘Tarzan’ did to criticism
 
muhammad saad said:
To be fair "kaalay" is just a term used in our culture for a sheeda or black guy , its not a racist word.
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The civilised world isn't bothered about what's normal in your racist culture. Only an uncivilised person would taunt somebody for the color of their skin. It's racist, plain & simple.
 
I have lodged a formal, written complaint about Sarfraz Ahmed with the ICC, charging that his actions violated the ICC Code of Conduct.

I have further advised the ICC in writing that if the Pakistan Cricket Board fails to take its own disciplinary action against Mr Ahmed, I expect the ICC to lay charges against the PCB for bringing cricket into disrepute by the on-field actions of a senior PCB Office Bearer, namely the national captain.
 
Perth93 said:
How bcci would've handled this:

"Sarfraz merely called him Kallis, out of respect for andile the all-rounder, but because of his lisp, Kallis sounded like kaale. Accusing sarfraz of racism is racism itself, making fun of Asian accents and people with lisp."

Case closed.

#KallisNotKaale #Maaki #helpsarfraz
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omg brilliant . LoL
 
Junaids said:
I have lodged a formal, written complaint about Sarfraz Ahmed with the ICC, charging that his actions violated the ICC Code of Conduct.

I have further advised the ICC in writing that if the Pakistan Cricket Board fails to take its own disciplinary action against Mr Ahmed, I expect the ICC to lay charges against the PCB for bringing cricket into disrepute by the on-field actions of a senior PCB Office Bearer, namely the national captain.
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yeh, i think match referee already did that.
 
Nov15 said:
The civilised world isn't bothered about what's normal in your racist culture. Only an uncivilised person would taunt somebody for the color of their skin. It's racist, plain & simple.
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Completely agree with this.
 
IndianMafia said:
In India being racist , mainly by color is cool ! We do it on regular basis... We tease each others by calling kaalu , **** etc .. hope it is same in Pakistan too...if so, nothing new from Sarfaraz.
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The difference between an educated and uneducated man is the sensitivity about different cultures and people. Yes kaalu or bandar are often used words esp. within friends groups in India though that's in an age group of under 22-23 yrs old kids. But that doesn't mean we use such words in countries where they are considered offensive.
 
Trouble here is: Pakistanis are big forgivers. It is the truth. There is a huge tolerance for misconduct.

The nation didn't really unite in condemnation when match fixing, pot smoking, pitch tampering, ball eating, catching balls on the bounce, infighting, coach pushing and so many other episodes happened. There is a lot of forgiveness here which won't be the case in many other cultures.

Moreover, in this case, Sarfaraz used the term which is not uncommon in Pakistani culture.

Therefore, the onus is on PCB more than anyone else, to do the right thing and break this ultimately harmful tradition of forgiveness in favor of the right thing. The right thing is to get in front of the issue and ban Sarfaraz. He should have known better.

If PCB don't, ICC will. And that will do further damage to PCB image.
 
in_cutter said:
Haysman understood alright. Ramiz the idiot laughed it off.
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Do you think Ramiz should have translated it on live tv .. I couldn't hear what Sarfaraz was saying but when Mike Haysman asked Ramiz to translate, i thought to myself that this would be Safaraz as usual scolding his players specially Shadab and Hassan and i wondered why Ramiz dodged to translate and I thought may be he didn't hear it. Only later I found what Sarfaraz had said and how well Ramiz did to dodge it.. Let's give it to him...he did well there
 
Sarfraz made a big fool of himself and now he can only hope he will get away with it.
 
I don't make a habit of defending Sarfraz but there are two main points here:

1 - I can't tell if he says "*****" or "Phelay", I am sure most, if being objective, can not either.

2 - Is using the term "black man" racist? It is not. Put it into the context of this particular sentence and he is simply stating the batsman is very lucky.

I do not see what is purely racist in all that, however, if you know ones name, you should use that, not the racial description...again, it is difficult to tell which word was used.
 
muhammad saad said:
To be fair "kaalay" is just a term used in our culture for a sheeda or black guy , its not a racist word.
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I sort of agree, but Pakistan, and probably most of the subcontinent is uneducated in general about casual racism, not being a multicultural society referring to skin colour is probably just an everyday thing. It might be a good thing for him to get banned if only to wake people up that it is not okay. Although I think most of the bumpkins over there probably will be left scratching their heads wondering what he said wrong.
 
Haysman asked Rameez to translate and Rameez just laughed it off as if its nothing serious. Sack Rameez also! The guy has been trolling Pakistan cricket behind the scenes for ages. He is very out of touch with reality also
 
shaaik said:
Do you think Ramiz should have translated it on live tv .. I couldn't hear what Sarfaraz was saying but when Mike Haysman asked Ramiz to translate, i thought to myself that this would be Safaraz as usual scolding his players specially Shadab and Hassan and i wondered why Ramiz dodged to translate and I thought may be he didn't hear it. Only later I found what Sarfaraz had said and how well Ramiz did to dodge it.. Let's give it to him...he did well there
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He should have not laughed it off. He needs to act more mature by stating that Im nor sure I should be translating this.
 
Sarfaraz can't pronounce Phehlukwayo name, so he ended up using this term. Simple as that!
 
I can't belive how can a team's captain behave like this.Seriously he definitely meant in racist way.it's not like andile's nickname is k**a people in subcontinent have this name but he definitely wanted to show him that he is superior color. He should be kicked out from team now forever.Hopefully PCB show some spine and send him home.
#kick sarfraz "racist" ahmed
#ban him for life
 
BTW, Shane Warne and the rest of the Aussies used to call Salim Malik "THE RAT". Now was that derogatory?
 
Junaids said:
Because Sachin initially gave evidence that Harbhajan said "monkey", which crowds in India had been taunting Symonds with three months earlier. And then Sachin changed his evidence.

You can say that Sachin lied with the first version or the second version - it doesn't matter. But his evidence was changed 180 degrees, so one of his versions was a bare-faced lie, we just can't prove whether the first version was a lie or the second version.
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Wow so the great Sachin Tendulkar was complicit in that racist scandal?
 
Who here thinks this was more idiotic than Afridi biting the ball? Both of them were captain of their team. Ball tampering is a bigger offense, but keeping in mind the context, this in my opinion was more idiotic.
 
Haroon786 said:
Wow so the great Sachin Tendulkar was complicit in that racist scandal?
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He was just trying to defend his team mate as expected. All he did is change his statement once he realised it will put Harbhjan in trouble which he was allowed to do.
 
Junaids said:
Because Sachin initially gave evidence that Harbhajan said "monkey", which crowds in India had been taunting Symonds with three months earlier. And then Sachin changed his evidence.

You can say that Sachin lied with the first version or the second version - it doesn't matter. But his evidence was changed 180 degrees, so one of his versions was a bare-faced lie, we just can't prove whether the first version was a lie or the second version.
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How can lie so shamelessly? Sachin never once said that Harbhajan called Symonds a monkey. He initially said in the middle to the umpires that he didn't hear anything. And later said that Harbhajan said Teri Ma Ki.
 
Hitman said:
Who here thinks this was more idiotic than Afridi biting the ball? Both of them were captain of their team. Ball tampering is a bigger offense, but keeping in mind the context, this in my opinion was more idiotic.
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Afridi ball tempering was just stupid he didn't even attempt to hide it at all as if he wanted a ban for holidays. Sarfraz was clearly being racist but didn't mean it and said it in a language which the victim couldn't understand.
 
I'm sure our cricketers have hardly heard of Phehlukwayo before or can remember or even spell his name correctly.
 
Pakhs said:
Afridi ball tempering was just stupid he didn't even attempt to hide it at all as if he wanted a ban for holidays. Sarfraz was clearly being racist but didn't mean it and said it in a language which the victim couldn't understand.
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Both of the incidents are strange. Why would any player deliberately invite trouble? And in both the cases they were the captain of the team. The thing is that it embarrasses the fans of their team. Those players are representing their country and their fans in international cricket, their conduct definitely has an effect on their fans.

I was thoroughly embarrassed when Sachin and Dravid were caught tampering with the ball on camera. So much that it humiliates me till this day.
 
Hitman said:
Both of the incidents are strange. Why would any player deliberately invite trouble? And in both the cases they were the captain of the team. The thing is that it embarrasses the fans of their team. Those players are representing their country and their fans in international cricket, their conduct definitely has an effect on their fans.

I was thoroughly embarrassed when Sachin and Dravid were caught tampering with the ball on camera. So much that it humiliates me till this day.
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Both incidents (or all 3 mentioned by you were due to frustration) But its highly doubt-able simply biting the ball will ever make the ball reverse swing its more likely do harm to your own teeth. Similarly what Sarfraz said was not even in the language the victim could understand so hardly a victim.

In the above cases you are right to draw similarities (stupidity), The difference in Sachin and Dravid case was that both of them are more sensible and therefore was caught tempering the ball in a more traditional manner.
 
For people that are saying he has a lack of education.

He has done a bachelors degree in electrical engineering from the well known dawood university in Karachi.
 
Let's not make it morally bigger issue than it is. I'm convinced many players mutter racist slurs on the field. Difference is Sarfraz was not smart enough to remember that Mic would pick up what he is saying. Anyhow due to lack of confidence in himself lately it would be good for Sarfraz to be removed from captaincy to focus on his batting.
 
Junaids said:
I have lodged a formal, written complaint about Sarfraz Ahmed with the ICC, charging that his actions violated the ICC Code of Conduct.

I have further advised the ICC in writing that if the Pakistan Cricket Board fails to take its own disciplinary action against Mr Ahmed, I expect the ICC to lay charges against the PCB for bringing cricket into disrepute by the on-field actions of a senior PCB Office Bearer, namely the national captain.
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The ICC probably won't even read your email properly. Doubt they care what random individual fans think.
 
Savak said:
To be honest, Pakistani media, ex test players and fan have highlighted this episode in comparison to the South African viewers, players and experts which is just disgraceful
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Which makes total sense since you need the cultural context to understand the implication of the word. It makes sense that people in Pakistan didn't think it was appropriate what was said. The concept of cultural difference isn't hard to understand.

For instance if you call someone "ulu" in urdu the person will feel insulted while the literal meaning of "ulu" is "an owl" in English. But in our context someone who is an "ulu" is a dumb person while an owl represent wisdom in western culture.
 
Pakhs said:
He was just trying to defend his team mate as expected. All he did is change his statement once he realised it will put Harbhjan in trouble which he was allowed to do.
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There's essentially the same as a witness in a murder case saying he saw the murder and then realising that hai statement would indict the murderer, change his statement to say he didn't see or hear anything. I'm sorry but this is extremely poor logic and definitely brings Sachin's integrity into question, there should be zero tolerance around the world on racism!
 
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