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Aus [662/9d] defeat Eng [403 & 218] in the 3rd Test by an innings and 41 runs to regain The Ashes

England must score 425+ to rule out defeat.

I got a feeling Aussies are still a couple wickets away from balance.
 
Nothing better to see nathan lyon get belted like he should.

Way too much respect for him by batsmen.

Wish we could see a prime Sehwag or Lara vs Lyon.
 
PSL continuing it's tradition of producing world class players :salute
 
I remember when an unknown David Malan was picked in the PSL an Indian claimed that in PSL any white guy on the street is picked just to show foreigner participation.


That same white guy now scored a gutsy hundred in the Ashes.


Slap on the face of Indian keyboard warriors.
 
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Did i miss something or was Malan selected for Ashes based on his performances in PSL?
 
Well done MALAN boy.. knew that you were capable of doing this. That is why had him in my Fantasy team.
Played some gud innings in PSL as well
 
WengerOut said:
Did i miss something or was Malan selected for Ashes based on his performances in PSL?
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Yes you did miss something.
All the ENG selectors went to the UAE and saw how good Malan played during the PSL and based upon that they booked his ticket to AUS.

Power of PSL.
 
Beautiful batting from England I feel a great deal of pride today [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]
 
shaz619 said:
All I see is some links, how do they prove you right?
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Whether he's England's best batsman or not? I'm not trying to convince anyone. That's for you to decide. I provided these links to show that I had called him England's best for some time which you claimed I didn't.
 
Went to bed as Malan/Bairstow were fighting but wasn't optimistic. Woke up delighted, but no score is safe for England in Oz after Adelaide 2006. Not sure if another team has last after scoring 551/6d in the last twenty five years.

Still think after Stokes, Bairstow is England's best batsman and needs to grow without the gloves so he can bat longer. Sanga, McCullum, Alec Stewart have shown they can score more without the gloves.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Whether he's England's best batsman or not? I'm not trying to convince anyone. That's for you to decide. I provided these links to show that I had called him England's best for some time which you claimed I didn't.
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I still don't believe you
 
Root is a softie. Won't end up as ATG in tests and perhaps in odis also.
 
Lefthanded said:
Went to bed as Malan/Bairstow were fighting but wasn't optimistic. Woke up delighted, but no score is safe for England in Oz after Adelaide 2006. Not sure if another team has last after scoring 551/6d in the last twenty five years.

Still think after Stokes, Bairstow is England's best batsman and needs to grow without the gloves so he can bat longer. Sanga, McCullum, Alec Stewart have shown they can score more without the gloves.
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Did you forget the first time it happened 3yrs back at the same ground? India beat Aus in Adelaide, Aus had an even better lineup than the one England faced off against.
 
shaz619 said:
I still don't believe you
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I think if they give the gloves to Foakes, with Root, Bairstow and Malan they will have a middle order to rival some of their best ever. I’m thinking Compton-May-Cowdrey and Trott-KP-Bell.
 
Malan product of PSL :14:

can't believe how ECB kept on ignoring him when he was killing it with the Lions
 
Robert said:
I think if they give the gloves to Foakes, with Root, Bairstow and Malan they will have a middle order to rival some of their best ever. I’m thinking Compton-May-Cowdrey and Trott-KP-Bell.
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you mean Woakes ? didnt know he kept lol
 
Robert said:
I think if they give the gloves to Foakes, with Root, Bairstow and Malan they will have a middle order to rival some of their best ever. I’m thinking Compton-May-Cowdrey and Trott-KP-Bell.
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Bayliss philosophy works well in the limited overs but he tends to favour utility in Test cricket as well, that will bite him in the backside. Bairstow will keep the gloves for the remainder of the series and beyond unfortunately.
 
A wicket like this having that much bounce will prove to be too one-dimensional. Having said that, it was really a tough time for the English top-order batsmen in the first hour and a half of the morning session. Stoneman was having a bit of problem judging the length and carry of balls. I think he got hit on the helmet by Hazlewood just after he was dropped by Mitch Marsh.


There is fire in this wicket...but as we see, it gets tamer as the day progresses and from the baking of it by the sun.

An interesting second day awaits.
 
I know Adelaide 2006 is a reminder of what can go wrong but 450+ will be a fantastic score for ENG.

Problem is, a wicket or two might leave England struggling to reach 400.
 
An early wicket or two tomorrow morning and England will get bowled out for less than 400. Their tail won't be able to cope with the pace and bounce in this wicket. Malan and Bairstow need to get through the first hour atleast.
 
Pakalulu said:
A wicket like this having that much bounce will prove to be too one-dimensional. Having said that, it was really a tough time for the English top-order batsmen in the first hour and a half of the morning session. Stoneman was having a bit of problem judging the length and carry of balls. I think he got hit on the helmet by Hazlewood just after he was dropped by Mitch Marsh.


There is fire in this wicket...but as we see, it gets tamer as the day progresses and from the baking of it by the sun.

An interesting second day awaits.
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Due to rain in Perth in the lead up, the pitch was not bake hard as usual. Slightly underdone (for the WACA standards) so might even quicken up more as the sun bakes it, ala Brisbane in similar circumstances this year.
 
^^ I was merely referencing the context of the first day in question. I don't care if there was a cyclone the day before the match started.
 
hafeezrocks said:
Runs flowing like water now.
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Supporting England, so this is a welcome sight.

Bairstow has been such an excellent cricketer the past few years while Malan gaining form is excellent.

Will be a miracle though if we win the series from here, could be the greatest series ever.
 
I've really enjoyed Adam Gilchrist and Ricky Ponting's commentary on BT sports. Great viewing this.
 
Big slap on the face for those that kept harping about Ali being the best all-rounder in test cricket.
 
Ali’s been able to nullify the lack of basic technical fundamentals in his batting with raw ability, but there’s only so far you can go against a quality pace attack on bouncy pitches lacking basic fundamentals.
 
Ali bats like a Specialist batsman in England even scoring quick 100s in Odis but can't bat to save his life in Australia.
 
Chip32 said:
Ali’s been able to nullify the lack of basic technical fundamentals in his batting with raw ability, but there’s only so far you can go against a quality pace attack on bouncy pitches lacking basic fundamentals.
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If you watched any of this series before making this comment, you'd know that he's actually been quite comfortable against the pace men and it's Lyon who's troubled him the most.

He's in poor form, struggling with injuries and a lack of confidence but was recently MOTS against a team of the caliber of South Africa. So much for a "lack of fundamentals".
 
England can still get to 430 from here and then, they can start hoping for a win. Australia are a batsman short and might suffer a collapse if Anderson and Broad can make the ball talk first up.
 
Get to 400 at least. Seriously good bowling and fielding from Australia.
 
England had a great chance to take control of this match. Now Aussies have the momentum. They will be at home on this pitch. Warner and co. are going to have a feast here.
 
England have thrown this away. At 300-odd for 4 they should have been eyeing up 550+ runs.

Instead the scorecard reads 392-8.
 
Just not good enough.

Could have batted AUS out of the game but now the door is left wide open.
 
Ali and Woakes are useless to team atm. England would be better served with playing specialist bowlers.
 
M Ali been utter useless for England down under failing with both bat and ball. Another reason why bits and pieces player is never good for test matches. His part time offie will never trouble batsmen in Australia. England should really try out Mason Crane.
 
I am happy that M.ali has finally been recognised for what he is. He was hailed as the B-grade botham or something, which he clearly is not. He is a good cricketer to have in the team but for UAE, England pitches. Else where, he would be found out, like in this tour.
 
ind_win said:
I am happy that M.ali has finally been recognised for what he is. He was hailed as the B-grade botham or something, which he clearly is not. He is a good cricketer to have in the team but for UAE, England pitches. Else where, he would be found out, like in this tour.
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:)))

Watch him destroy your lot next year. He's already been superb with ball and bat at home and away, respectively. Now for him to take 20+ wickets and score two tons against mighty Inndiaaa in the same series.
 
Moeen Ali can't block to save his life.

Seriously just play your shots instead of blocking your way out innings after innings.
 
volcyz said:
Moeen Ali can't block to save his life.

Seriously just play your shots instead of blocking your way out innings after innings.
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Maybe not to save his life but he did nearly save a match with his blocking. Watch his second test again.
 
Bilal7 said:
:)))

Watch him destroy your lot next year. He's already been superb with ball and bat at home and away, respectively. Now for him to take 20+ wickets and score two tons against mighty Inndiaaa in the same series.
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But should England keep him in team? He is shaming his teammates in public during an ashes series!
 
JattMaula said:
But should England keep him in team? He is shaming his teammates in public during an ashes series!
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Should they keep someone who won MOTS in a series against South Africa very recently in the team? Yes, of course. He's not getting dropped even if he scores a pair and takes no wickets in this game because they'll need two spinners in Melbourne and Sydney.

How is he shaming his teammates in public?
 
403 is a decent score for my money. Let’s see what the Aussies can put up before getting too hysterical.
 
Should generally keep it full for Warner and give him the surprise good length ball outside off, from time to time.
 
Looks a 500+ pitch with England's pace. And a 135k bowler is actually easier to play for the batsmen with the true bounce. Expect Australia to score at 4+. Don't see England winning this.
 
Princejain191 said:
Looks a 500+ pitch with England's pace. And a 135k bowler is actually easier to play for the batsmen with the true bounce. Expect Australia to score at 4+. Don't see England winning this.
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If Eng can't swing the new ball, ala Pathan & RP circa 2008 then they'll lose. Aus pitches are result oriented because they have pace & bounce, you can get away with draws on pitches like Ranchi but very rarely in Aus, if you don't bowl well.
 
Princejain191 said:
Looks a 500+ pitch with England's pace. And a 135k bowler is actually easier to play for the batsmen with the true bounce. Expect Australia to score at 4+. Don't see England winning this.
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They would have taken a draw with both hands before the toss was called. WACA is usually a nightmare for the English.
 
Not many occasions when England have scored 400 at the WACA. They recovered from 131/4 yesterday as well, lest we forget. This is relatively good by their standards.
 
No threat at all from the right-arm medium pacers. England desperately need some versatility in their attack.
 
R0H1T said:
If Eng can't swing the new ball, ala Pathan & RP circa 2008 then they'll lose. Aus pitches are result oriented because they have pace & bounce, you can get away with draws on pitches like Ranchi but very rarely in Aus, if you don't bowl well.
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Thats why all their bowlers can crank it up to 145, you can't survive in Australia with a speed of 135. I think a lot of their pitches are just flat, just that they have ridiculous bowlers and teams lose the game in the mind in Australia. It is always as much a mental game vs. Australia as it is about the skills. The media, the crowd, the sledging and the 145k bowlers.
 
Man this is some spell. What is Overton doing that others aren't? How is he able to get the ball to swing? Quality spell till now. Lets go England.
 
Poms need to get Smith early for any hope of a first innings lead
 
Princejain191 said:
Thats why all their bowlers can crank it up to 145, you can't survive in Australia with a speed of 135. I think a lot of their pitches are just flat, just that they have ridiculous bowlers and teams lose the game in the mind in Australia. It is always as much a mental game vs. Australia as it is about the skills. The media, the crowd, the sledging and the 145k bowlers.
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Mcgrath says hello
 
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