Australia v Pakistan | 1st Test - Day 5 | MCG | 30/12/09

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KA threw away his wicket but he probably thought that he could nail it. It happens. Have a big heart. If we had taken all those catches it would have been a different game.

The selectors also need to be blamed for not playing Gul/Sami and not calling YK earlier.

But anyways time to move on correct the mistakes and prepare for the 2nd test.
 
Oxy said:
He'd be ripping into Bob Woolmer if he wasnt dead.
aamir sohail..all he does is criticize other players..
 
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itduzz said:
what is he saying?
Amir Sohail: "For 7 lac salary he is not doing anything. He should show his presence by helping batsmen. Waqar is okay but he can only help bowlers.

Miandad's quest for reforming the first class cricket is doomed for failure. The board and Miandad must make a decision now. Money cannot be thrown away like that."
 
Chuffed said:
Like I say he is becoming another brainless hitter, didn't say he is. It's not just his second innings dismissal, his first innings showed his contempt and lack of respect for Test cricket. He was well set and going strong until he played that needless shot.

He was slogging the ball all over the place, went for another slog and got caught. Live by the sword die by the sword.
 
Oxy said:
He'd be ripping into Bob Woolmer if he wasnt dead.

Makes a good point though. "Inti was a leggie and hard hitter, Aaqib's a bowler, they needed to send a batting consultant especially considering the constant batting collapses from the sri lanka tour but instead they hire Waqar. I want to know what Miandad is taking money for"
 
ZAK said:
correct but the thing with akmal is that he is an aggressive player and he went for his shots as he did back in 2006 in karach and mohali before that besides this match was over by the time he came in to bat.

There is a difference between being aggressive and reckless, he was the latter.
 
critical said:
Akmal is still young and new to International test cricket, he will learn with experience and then start to take responsibility with his batting. He has the technique and the ability, his temperament will build as he plays more and more.


He is and he needs guidance, he needs to know if he doesn't take this opportunity, he needs only to look at Afridi's average and Nazir's status as an international cricketer. He seems like a smart kid, but all this fame is getting to his head.
 
Now he's talking about the lack of support available to the batsmen. Batsmen keep getting out the same way. There's no one in the back ground telling them where they are going wrong,
 
This will be 10th consecutive test we will be losing to Australia. But I am sure Pak will respond in SCG and Hobart.

Dating back to 1999/2000.
 
karachiite said:
Makes a good point though. "Inti was a leggie and hard hitter, Aaqib's a bowler, they needed to send a batting consultant especially considering the constant batting collapses from the sri lanka tour but instead they hire Waqar. I want to know what Miandad is taking money for"

He is taking the money for improving the domestic structure in order for Pakistan to produce world class cricketers. Not sure how that will help as unless a cricketer has influence with the right people, they dont get selected.
 
Chuffed said:
He is and he needs guidance, he needs to know if he doesn't take this opportunity, he needs only to look at Afridi's average and Nazir's status as an international cricketer. He seems like a smart kid, but all this fame is getting to his head.

Agreed. When Nazir first came onto the scene, he wasnt a big hitter, but a decent batsman. He ruined his talent trying to become another Afridi.
 
i don't know why people are having a go at u. akmal, he was caught behind playing a DEFENSIVE shot
 
saadjhussain said:
i don't know why people are having a go at u. akmal, he was caught behind playing a DEFENSIVE shot

To a ball he could have easily left since it was so far away, and playing the shot away from his body.
 
saadjhussain said:
i don't know why people are having a go at u. akmal, he was caught behind playing a DEFENSIVE shot
Some were complaining why he didn't go for a slogging shot instead :))
 
namak said:
To a ball he could have easily left since it was so far away, and playing the shot away from his body.

First over of the day, can easily happen. I dont understand why everyone is so upset about it. Hard to know where your offstump is first up.
 
Random Aussie said:
He was slogging the ball all over the place, went for another slog and got caught. Live by the sword die by the sword.


He was flaying Siddell who he had faced for a quite a number of deliveries before he unleashed.

With Johnson, he tried to smack him out of the park in only the second delivery he face from him, with no time to understand the bowler's action or ability. It was required that he give Johnson a bit more respect than he had done.

In the second innings he was driving him on the fourth delivery of the first over, mindless cricket.
 
karachiite said:
Now he's talking about the lack of support available to the batsmen. Batsmen keep getting out the same way. There's no one in the back ground telling them where they are going wrong,

If Farhat can't work out that he's got a problem with the ball coming into his pads on his own then no amount of consultants and coaches will help him. Same goes for half of those batsmen
 
Fawad said:
There is a difference between being aggressive and reckless, he was the latter.

IMO he was the the former and even if he was reckless i think one shouldn't be as harsh as to say that he should be sacked because he is our highest run scorer in all formats of the game this year
 
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JeeraBlade said:
Fawad should be and should have been playing. I am afraid, Malik may come in.


4 overs far?


Misbah will stay in the team on the basis of first innings performance.
 
abcanada said:
Afridi is already there.............. playing Big Bash T20 for South Australia.

Not to mention he took 4 wickets in the game and was Man of the Match.
 
ZAK said:
IMO he was the the former.
I agree. No blame on Umar. He played as he should have. Same goes for Kamran.

The blame lies elsewhere.
 
Salam all. I just got home, and saw the score on cricinfo. What a disappointment. I was hoping we will survive a bit better. Few here predicted the collapse very accurate. Same old pakistan team. Now the bright side is that we did bowl very well. I just can't imagine would would have been the result had we taken those two catches in the first inning. We need to sit Misbah I think, and bring YK ( hope he is available ) at # 3, replace Ajmal with Kaneria and Rauf with Gul/Sami. I still feel good about the situation thinking if our fielding was up to par.

Those poster who didn't get carried away with emotion are probably feeling a bit better. I did have my hopes very high
 
Random Aussie said:
He was slogging the ball all over the place, went for another slog and got caught. Live by the sword die by the sword.
Serious? U.Akmals caught? Is that we call a slogging shot?
 
insaaniyat said:
Salam all. I just got home, and saw the score on cricinfo. What a disappointment. I was hoping we will survive a bit better. Few here predicted the collapse very accurate. Same old pakistan team. Now the bright side is that we did bowl very well. I just can't imagine would would have been the result had we taken those two catches in the first inning. We need to sit Misbah I think, and bring YK ( hope he is available ) at # 3, replace Ajmal with Kaneria and Rauf with Gul/Sami. I still feel good about the situation thinking if our fielding was up to par.

Those poster who didn't get carried away with emotion are probably feeling a bit better. I did have my hopes very high

Watching them collapse time and time again over the last few games had prepared me.
 
Momo said:
I agree. No blame on Umar. He played as he should have. Same goes for Kamran.

The blame lies elsewhere.

i assume a mod agreeing with me should give my opinion some credibility lol.
 
Random Aussie said:
He was slogging the ball all over the place, went for another slog and got caught. Live by the sword die by the sword.
Mudassar was right all along and it seem Umar still falls in that trap of giving his wkt away. Half the time he has been out either playing for big shot or trying to be too cute and giving an easy catch. I think only 2 tiimes where bowler beat him with a good delivery only. If he can cut on his mistakes he can be a real asset to Pakistan. Below are his 8 outs in 4 tests with bolded as poor shots:


84.1
Bond to Umar Akmal, OUT, he finds Two-meter Peter in the deep! He bends his knee and chases a pitched up delivery outside off, the ball flies off the top half of the bat and lands down Fulton's throat at deep backward point
Umar Akmal c Fulton b Bond 129 (219m 160b 21x4 2x6) SR: 80.62


63.5
Bond to Umar Akmal, OUT, spooned it back to the bowler! Umar Akmal trudges off and do we have a twist here? Bond fires it full on middle and Umar drives a little too early and ends up chipping it back towards Bond, he cups it to the right of his face
Umar Akmal c & b Bond 75 (222m 174b 5x4 1x6) SR: 43.10

45.1
Tuffey o Umar Akmal, OUT, Tuffey gets Umar! The inswinger and gets it to nip in a little further after pitching, Umar gets forward to defend but is done in by the movement, clips the pads and is bowled through the gate and is bowled
Umar Akmal b Tuffey 46 (57m 48b 6x4 1x6) SR: 95.83


65.6
Martin to Umar Akmal, OUT, what would New Zealand do without Vettori? Bowled it on a length on the off stump, moved across and tried to loft it over the in-field on the off side, mistimed it, didn't get under it well enough, Vettori, standing at mid-off, ran back, stretched, dived to his left and plucked another beauty, almost identical to the catch he took in the first innings but just a little easier
Umar Akmal c Vettori b Martin 52 (49m 33b 6x4 2x6) SR: 157.57


18.2
O'Brien to Umar Akmal, OUT, O'Brien, why are you leaving? short ball gets Umar Akmal this time, short ball 144kmh, Akmal prods at it and gives catching practice to Guptill at gully, another duck, 4.2-4-3-3 are O'Brien's figures, a dream spell
Umar Akmal c Guptill b O'Brien 0 (16m 11b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00

163.5
Southee to Umar Akmal, OUT, Umar Akaml is gone! no footwork at all from him as he looks to chop a short ball outside off, only manages to feather it through to the keeper, off the top edge
Umar Akmal c †McCullum b Southee 77 (194m 144b 6x4 1x6) SR: 53.47


60.6
Johnson to Umar Akmal, OUT, caught! shortish delivery, the batsman tries to flay from the crease through the off side, he gets a thick outside edge which is collected cleanly by the Australian skipper at second slip
Umar Akmal c Ponting b Johnson 51 (103m 80b 9x4 1x6) SR: 63.75

45.4
Johnson to Umar Akmal, OUT, caught behind! forward to a fullish ball outside off, he got an outside edge which Haddin dived forward to collect, there's a big shout but the batsman stands his ground and the umpires confer. The question is whether Haddin took it cleanly, after some delay examining several replays, the umpires decide he did.
Umar Akmal c †Haddin b Johnson 27 (37b 5x4 0x6) SR: 72.97
 
saadjhussain said:
i don't know why people are having a go at u. akmal, he was caught behind playing a DEFENSIVE shot

I blame :akhtar for giving away the secret to get Umar out. Even though there's an atom of a chance the Aussies even knew :akhtar said such a thing.
 
Well think the positives!
We'll likely be hearing something about Ponting's arm.
Younus Khan coming back. Sami coming back.
 
Aus win by 170 runs. Good effort by Pakistan first up though, they were competitive.

Catches win matches, the margin of victory is close to the total of runs scored by our openers on the first day after being dropped.
 
it felt good when ajmal hit ponting i know i am insensative......man that was the best moment in the match!!
 
Chuffed said:
Who said Pakistan are good players of spin?

This performance from Hauritz was inevitable as he had come under a lot of pressure by some CA officials regarding his performances in the 4th innings and unlike the Pakistani players the Australians are good listeners.
 
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IF Kamran had not throw his wicket away in a DISASTROUS manor, i'd think we could've actually put up a fight.
 
karachiite said:
Makes a good point though. "Inti was a leggie and hard hitter, Aaqib's a bowler, they needed to send a batting consultant especially considering the constant batting collapses from the sri lanka tour but instead they hire Waqar. I want to know what Miandad is taking money for"


Waqar was the right choice for Aus tour. Now we need an assistant coach under Waqar and send the rest of these guys home.
Our problems in terms of priority are:

1. Selection. We always get this wrong. Rauf's selection was a big mistake.
Razzaq, Afridi, YK and Taufeeq shuld have been a prt of the team.
2. Fielding. We paid big time for drop catches.
3. Batting. Selection and coach is half the problem. We need a batting coach.
 
Oxy said:
I dont share anyones optimism - I have good reason not to! Recent history!

I can see this being over after just after lunch - I'm factoring in another epic collapse

Pak to lose 120 runs short

Wait until you see my predictions & signature for the 2nd test.....
 
Random Aussie said:
Aus win by 170 runs. Good effort by Pakistan first up though, they were competitive.

Catches win matches, the margin of victory is close to the total of runs scored by our openers on the first day after being dropped.
that is exactly right. We take those two catches and who knows what the result would be.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Great bowling by Australia. But I think we can go into Sydney with confidence if we make 3 changes.

Only need to make two changes, get Gul and Kaneria and we'll take 20 Aussie wickets
 
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