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Loving the war of words between Clarke/Bailey and Anderson/Root. Love how the stump mic was turned down to mute by CH9 as soon as Clarke said "watch the f***in.."
 
One good performance after an eternity and the aussies have already have a lot of air in their heads
 
MJ, new ball, Anderson. It's on like donkey kong!
 
How many times Eng has lost by such a huge margin?
 
Let's see how Eng comes back from this. Real hiding this. Sets the series up very nicely indeed. Congrats Aus brilliant game of test cricket.
 
I love it how they go full old school in ashes. Old style hats, mustaches etc makes realize that cricket is indeed a gentleman's game.

The gangsta look of of MJ can knock lipstick off any new players face. :D
 
Mitch was a revelation.. I just hope he doesn't go down the spiral again! And people rate Starc ahead of him! huh
 
Aman said:
Too good of a side to lose to this Australian team.
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They just lost a test and we'd be confident of winning at Perth.

Can't see them winning in all of Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney.
 
Brutal stuff from the quicks, great to watch.

Still have my doubts we can turn this into a series win but with the way we have struggled of late any win against a quality team will do.
 
Convict said:
They just lost a test and we'd be confident of winning at Perth.

Can't see them winning in all of Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney.
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Perth is the only worry for England but I still see England fighting back to win 2/3-1

As for too good to lose to this Australian team I mean't too good to lose a series.
 
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The Aussie public doesn't seem that keen on Clarke.
 
Aman said:
Perth is the only worry for England but I still see England fighting back to win 2/3-1
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Robert's prediction of 2-2 looks pretty good.

But no doubt we are in genuine danger of losing the series now. Needs a quick response.

Congrats Aussies. Super cricket. Certainly one of our heaviest and most comprehensive defeats in many years.
 
James said:
Robert's prediction of 2-2 looks pretty good.

But no doubt we are in genuine danger of losing the series now. Needs a quick response.

Congrats Aussies. Super cricket. Certainly one of our heaviest and most comprehensive defeats in many years.
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You guys were so poor against Mitch, whatever happened to leaving the good short ball? #egos
 
Aman said:
You guys were so poor against Mitch, whatever happened to leaving the good short ball? #egos
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No doubt as well as being a brilliant performance from the Aussies it was also a poor one from us. The short ball will be considerably less threatening at Adelaide, and the atmosphere tends to be less of a cauldron. We couldn't handle the pressure of the bounce and the crowd this time but we can come back.
 
James said:
The Aussie public doesn't seem that keen on Clarke.
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Clarke's never been liked.
Part of the 'soft metrosexuals' and not like Ponting, Waugh, Borders etc which Australian cricket loves. Which is a completely ridiculous reason to dislike someone.

But he's won a lot of respect for his batting since his captaincy though a lot of people dislike him for the dressing room stuff.

Probably gained some fans today though.
 
Aman said:
What makes you think that?
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Just get the sense that he divides opinion more than most Aussie captains, as Convict says.

Didn't get much of a reaction at the presentation until he inserted the 'thanks to the Brisbane fans' cheap pop.
 
I would laugh if the new drop in Adelaide happens to be incredibly bouncy
 
James said:
Just get the sense that he divides opinion more than most Aussie captains.

Didn't get much of a reaction at the presentation until he inserted the 'thanks to the Brisbane fans' cheap pop.
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He's liked but not loved is probably the best way to describe it.
 
Convict said:
Clarke's never been liked.
Part of the 'soft metrosexuals' and not like Ponting, Waugh, Borders etc which Australian cricket loves. Which is a completely ridiculous reason to dislike someone.

But he's won a lot of respect for his batting since his captaincy though a lot of people dislike him for the dressing room stuff.

Probably gained some fans today though.
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How much of that is due to the fact that he takes personal issues into the team?Like Katich???
 
England's bowling is the real worry there batting will come good but the third pacer I'm not too sure about. England have Bresnan (hasn't played since September), Trundlet and Finn to choose from.
 
cricketjoshila said:
How much of that is due to the fact that he takes personal issues into the team?Like Katich???
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I think it's more of the macho Australian culture than anything else. Had the flashy sports car, the model girlfriend, the earings and bleached hair etc.

Since his captaincy begun he's earned a lot of respect though
 
Aman said:
England's bowling is the real worry there batting will come good but the third pacer I'm not too sure about. England have Bresnan (hasn't played since September), Trundlet and Finn to choose from.
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Finn was a soldier in the 2nd innings at Adelaide last time. Had gone for a few in the first dig, but faced with a flat pitch, worn cherry and 4 sessions to go he produced a blinding spell to snare Watson and open up the victory charge. I would replace Trundlet with Finn.
 
England have identified the problem.

Apparently they have used the wrong type of cheese on their menu and it should be sorted out by Adeliade. And maybe a touch bit more calcium to strengthen up those backbones.
 
Convict said:
I'd have selected Finn in the first place.
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At least he was protected from this debacle. Sometimes after a defeat a fresh face or two makes a big difference. Get him back in.

I don't think I'd make any other changes.
 
Why on earth was Trundlet picked anyway? Didn't the batsmen face him in the nets?...
 
Well, England paid dearly for the romantic selection of Tremlett. The English posters on here warned he wasn't bowling well enough to be picked. Imagine Finn will come in for Adelaide, although he is expensive he takes wickets and has pace.

Mitch produced a typical Mitchell Johnson gun performance and good on him. Lets see if he can back it up in Adelaide though.

James is right the short ball wont be so effective in Adelaide but it will be even more effective in Perth. England's batters have got some real problems against the short ball and need to do some work on it, otherwise they can forget about Perth which will make it hard to win the series.

For us, well half the top order failed as usual but we won our first Test for quite some time so yay. Warner made runs and Clarke did his thing. Everyone else was no good but we already know that.

We will be tempted to rest Rhino or MJ for Adelaide but I am not sure there is enough back up to do that. However who knows with CA, they might rest all the bowlers and field a new attack.

Bailey should get another Test, Watson is a serious concern. For all his talent he doesn't impact Test matches. The Lyon bowled very well, was good to see.
 
Shaun Marsh will probably come in soon knowing how the Australian selectors think.

I pity England trying to sort things out by playing a grade class team in Alice Springs.
 
Most of the English players look like they have all gotten in bad form at the worst possible time. Even the English bowling wasn't too impressive. Tremlet looked very ordinary, completely disgraceful to see a bowler with that height bowling at 123 km/hr, they seriously need to look at more potent options. The biggest problem looked over confidence, this is a good wake up girl.
 
It was always clear that England were gonna struggle, England is an ageing side,Cook is not the old one and looking more mediocre day after day, the fielding is sluggish and the aussies on the other hand are improving day by day,the result did not surprise me,I was expecting atleast a 2-0 win for AUs before this Ashes
 
Convict said:
They just lost a test and we'd be confident of winning at Perth.

Can't see them winning in all of Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney.
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Yeah, I said 2-2 before the series started.

A couple of ENG players will have to get their heads right and feet moving before that happens, though.

Oh, and played AUS.
 
Robert said:
Yeah, I said 2-2 before the series started.

A couple of ENG players will have to get their heads right and feet moving before that happens, though.

Oh, and played AUS.
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2-2 was my best scenario.
But it will be interesting to see how England respond from this.

Adelaide suddenly becomes very important and they'd want to put in a strong showing in Perth.
 
Missed today's play as it's Sat night / Sun am here and I was out and about but well played to the OZ and a bit of vindication for Jonno. The batting looks more solid barring questions over Twatto and Bailey. As for England I don't think they remotely expected Jonno to bowl like that, they looked like they had no answers to the pace and bounce. You'd have to say that's a failure in preparation or a bit of complacency. Same with Garry he looked better than Swann by a long way which we all know he isn't.

Challenge for the OZ is to keep their feet on the ground. Adelaide is a different surface and a lot more attritional cricket will be played. That said, Adelaide almost always produces a result so we will see what the curator has come up with. The important thing is with such a victory is it erases the doubt in the minds of the underdogs and gives them self belief. Whatever hold England had over the minds of these OZ cricketers is well and truly gone now.

For England they haven't been in a position like this for a while, having to chase a series after a heavy defeat. The experience is still there but possibly the technical deficiencies have been much more exposed now. It's a long series and they are too good a team to fold up like the ones in the 90s.


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Australia have become a beast at home since that loss series against England in 10/11. Don't forget England uses South African, Irish etc players in their team as well and now I can see why.
 
The only way i could see us sneaking a win pre series was win at the gabba and waca and make sure we don't lose adelaide.

If by some miracle we could go to boxing day in that position i doubt we would see much life in the pitches at sydney and melbourne.

obviously thats a lot to that has to go right for that scenario to take place but i feel it's our only shot, if it's close heading into boxing day it's hard to see england leaving without the ashes.
 
OZGOD said:
Missed today's play as it's Sat night / Sun am here and I was out and about but well played to the OZ and a bit of vindication for Jonno. The batting looks more solid barring questions over Twatto and Bailey. As for England I don't think they remotely expected Jonno to bowl like that, they looked like they had no answers to the pace and bounce. You'd have to say that's a failure in preparation or a bit of complacency. Same with Garry he looked better than Swann by a long way which we all know he isn't.

Challenge for the OZ is to keep their feet on the ground. Adelaide is a different surface and a lot more attritional cricket will be played. That said, Adelaide almost always produces a result so we will see what the curator has come up with. The important thing is with such a victory is it erases the doubt in the minds of the underdogs and gives them self belief. Whatever hold England had over the minds of these OZ cricketers is well and truly gone now.

For England they haven't been in a position like this for a while, having to chase a series after a heavy defeat. The experience is still there but possibly the technical deficiencies have been much more exposed now. It's a long series and they are too good a team to fold up like the ones in the 90s.


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New wicket. They dug it up and replaced it with a drop in for the AFL.

First shield match there was dead.
 
Energetic said:
Australia have become a beast at home since that loss series against England in 10/11. Don't forget England uses South African, Irish etc players in their team as well and now I can see why.
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Enlighten us.
 
I would not be so sure of an Aussie victory at Perth. If England were to lose twice in similar conditions and exhibit similar deficiencies, heads will definitely roll. So lot at stake for England and I believe they will put up a better fight.
 
Gunther said:
I would not be so sure of an Aussie victory at Perth. If England were to lose twice in similar conditions and exhibit similar deficiencies, heads will definitely roll. So lot at stake for England and I believe they will put up a better fight.
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I wouldn't be either but the conditions would suit us.

We'd back ourselves like England would back themselves playing Australia on a dry turner.
 
Certainly no guarantee, just the reality that with our weaknesses and strengths that perth and the gabba are our best shots.
 
If australia win the series it will be good for cricket
 
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