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Australia vs England | Semi Final 2, World Cup | Edgbaston | 11th July, 2019 | Australia innings

If Stonis is in the team that means it is the worst Australian team ever
 
118/5 Steve Smith and Maxwell standing between English bowling and Aussies tail.
 
Stoinis has always been a pathetic player. Can't understand how he makes into the Australian team.

Australia are well behind the asking rate. Don't think this pitch is a 240 one. More like 270-280.
 
maxi has to play well,in this tournament he didnt played well now he has a chance
 
Stoinis has been Australian version of Faheem Ashraf in batting throughout the WC
 
one afridi gone other walks in marginal call that was Rashhid influenced Dharmsena spinners bias
 
shariqnoor said:
Stoinis has always been a pathetic player. Can't understand how he makes into the Australian team.

Australia are well behind the asking rate. Don't think this pitch is a 240 one. More like 270-280.
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240 is more like 270-280 in a semi final
 
Hasan123 said:
Mitchell Marsh would have done better than Stonis in this WC.
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Might have but Marsh is also mediocre. Best All rounder Aus produced atleast in the last two decades and was still much better then these mediocre players was Shane Watson who was I think bit hard done.
 
Titan24 said:
Might have but Marsh is also mediocre. Best All rounder Aus produced atleast in the last two decades and was still much better then these mediocre players was Shane Watson who was I think bit hard done.
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Marsh is good in ODIs. He averages 35 with the bat. That's excellent for a number 5/6 . And is a better bowler than Stonis.
 
Aus can make 250 winnable on a 280 pitch. This is a semi final. Pitch is dry and turning. 240 should let Aus compete
 
Rashid is a very good LO bowler. Hope he gets four or five!
 
IN all fairness Australia is running out of quality players. This is all they have. I don't think they have a RIcky ponting waiting in Australia. Still relies on Warner, Smith a lot. Others are not upto the standards of past Australian greats. Carey is good. But by means a Gilchrist.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
True. One brainfade followed by another clueless poke.
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Getting caught in the deep is a very regular dismissal against a leg spinner. So many of kuldeep and chahal dismissals come in that fashion.
And wrong un' is always a good delivery to a newcomer.
 
Steve Smith averages 52 batting at 3. He should have been batting at 3. If Khawaja wasnt opening, the question was who is a better player out of Smith and Khawaja. It's a no brainer who the better player is.
 
Amazing how much tactics and planning has come in cricket even more than football #4-3-3
 
Smitih will stick around. I don't trust this maxwell guy yet. His feet movement is suspect. With a bit of luck he may find his touch.
 
Hasan123 said:
Marsh is good in ODIs. He averages 35 with the bat. That's excellent for a number 5/6 . And is a better bowler than Stonis.
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Even Stoinis was averaging in high 30s before this WC. Marsh wasnt exactly doing what was expected of him and he was dropped because of that, Aussies are pretty tough if you couldn’t perform a role defined to you.

Personally I also think Marsh was even technically much superior than Stoinis but he wasnt exactly setting the world on fire as well when he was regular.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
IN all fairness Australia is running out of quality players. This is all they have. I don't think they have a RIcky ponting waiting in Australia. Still relies on Warner, Smith a lot. Others are not upto the standards of past Australian greats. Carey is good. But by means a Gilchrist.
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Ricky Ponting doesn't come around every day. Australia are the greatest cricketing nation. They will be fine. They don't need to produce Gilchrist and Ponting to be a good team.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Cricket is not popular in England. India vs England test series had the grounds empty. John Cena is more popular than Alistair Cook (who's knighted)
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Test in the subcontinent also has empty grounds. And popularity depends on perception too. Cricket is one of the moderately popular sports in England beside the as usual no.1 popular soccer. Cricket is not the most popular sport there but saying not popular at all is underrating it.

Yes, cricket is not popular in England if you compare it to Indian subcontinent. But only the number one sport doesnt represent everyone aka soccer in england or cricket in india.

Saying Cricket is not popular in England is equivalent of saying Hockey is not popular in India or even football. Thats sound right?
 
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If (a big If) maxwell finds his range today for 15 overs, England will consider themselves as the unluckiest team as he can completely take the game away.
 
Titan24 said:
Even Stoinis was averaging in high 30s before this WC. Marsh wasnt exactly doing what was expected of him and he was dropped because of that, Aussies are pretty tough if you couldn’t perform a role defined to you.

Personally I also think Marsh was even technically much superior than Stoinis but he wasnt exactly setting the world on fire as well when he was regular.
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Marsh was mostly failing in tests not in ODIs. He hasn't played ODIs for well over a year. So your memories of Marsh are coming from tests.

Marsh should have been in this squad.
 
A good 10 overs here frm smith and Maxwell cud take Aus to 200. So important for england to not let these 2 settle
 
Subcontinent fans should learn from English and Australian fans how to watch a cricket match.Asian fans get carried away and make too much noise.I don't like their antics.
 
Anik Sharma said:
Test in the subcontinent also has empty grounds. And popularity depends on perception too. Cricket is one of the moderately popular sports in England besides the as usual no.1 soccer.

Yes, cricket is not popular in England if you compare it to Indian subcontinent. But only the number one sport doesnt represent everyone aka soccer in england or cricket in india.

Saying Cricket is not popular in England is equivalent of saying Hockey is not popular in India or even football. Thats sound right?
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Cricket isn't even in top 5 sport in England. Not even Ashes is that popular. Cricket is much more popular in Australia, yes, but England? Nope.
 
Hasan123 said:
Ricky Ponting doesn't come around every day. Australia are the greatest cricketing nation. They will be fine. They don't need to produce Gilchrist and Ponting to be a good team.
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These new guys are not that good. Saw some of the guys. Surprisingly many were found wanting against bouncers. That Marcus Harris guy is an example. I don't even see a Langer or Damien Martyn yet. Warner/Smith have to share the load. Handscomb looked good. But he is messing up with his stance too much.
 
Plane flying overhead again. What does it say this time?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
IN all fairness Australia is running out of quality players. This is all they have. I don't think they have a RIcky ponting waiting in Australia. Still relies on Warner, Smith a lot. Others are not upto the standards of past Australian greats. Carey is good. But by means a Gilchrist.
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Many teams are and I am thinking its just a phase. I havent seen Indian middle order as mediocre as we have seen in this WC while SA has also been struggling big time in recent times. Pak also wasnt able to find decent talent for most years of this decade but then fortunately few players like Babar Azam, Imam, Shaheen etc developed and appeared.

So I guess its just a cycle, a good domestic structure can make sure that players with talent and temperament dont go to waste but talent is born in my opinion it can only be nurtured but cant be created.
 
Artaxerxes said:
Subcontinent fans should learn from English and Australian fans how to watch a cricket match.Asian fans get carried away and make too much noise.I don't like their antics.
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We don't want a graveyard atmosphere. Besides Australian fans, SA fans do make noise. English fans are the odd balls here.
 
Titan24 said:
Many teams are and I am thinking its just a phase. I havent seen Indian middle order as mediocre as we have seen in this WC while SA has also been struggling big time in recent times. Pak also wasnt able to find decent talent for most years of this decade but then fortunately few players like Babar Azam, Imam, Shaheen etc developed and appeared.

So I guess its just a cycle, a good domestic structure can make sure that players with talent and temperament dont go to waste but talent is born in my opinion it can only be nurtured but cant be created.
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It's not a phase for Australia. They really don't have anymore talent in store. All the best players are playing today (except Shawn Marsh and Khawaja).
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Cricket isn't even in top 5 sport in England. Not even Ashes is that popular. Cricket is much more popular in Australia, yes, but England? Nope.
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Football, Rugby, Cricket is probably the order of popularity in England. Not sure what else you're thinking of that pushes it out of the top 5.
 
It is entirely upto how long Maxie can last from here on. If Smith absorbs Archer's spell not exposing maxwell much, it will be a dent in England's plan of reserving lot of overs for Archer in the backend.
 
Titan24 said:
Many teams are and I am thinking its just a phase. I havent seen Indian middle order as mediocre as we have seen in this WC while SA has also been struggling big time in recent times. Pak also wasnt able to find decent talent for most years of this decade but then fortunately few players like Babar Azam, Imam, Shaheen etc developed and appeared.

So I guess its just a cycle, a good domestic structure can make sure that players with talent and temperament dont go to waste but talent is born in my opinion it can only be nurtured but cant be created.
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Imam is nowhere near the level of Babar and Shaheen. He hasn't done enough to cement his place in the side.
 
England is damn lucky to have this 24 year odl guy who is making an impact right of the bat in his first ever world cup. Morgan was part of the side that beat Pakistan in 2007 world cup lol Ireland side . Now he is leading the side.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Cricket isn't even in top 5 sport in England. Not even Ashes is that popular. Cricket is much more popular in Australia, yes, but England? Nope.
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I was refering to Team sports only. Often the surveys of most popular sports include 'running', 'exercise' etc to tennis, golf..In that way even in Australia cricket doesnt belong in top 8..!

But by sport i meant the team based one aka rugby, football, cricket.

Saying that until recently(before 2007) cricket was easily the second most popular sport in England. But since 2005 cricket is not free to air in england and it had a negative impact on the growth as its not accessible to every one.

Tell me other than soccer and rugby which team based sports are miles more popular than Cricket in UK?
 
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250-270 would be a very good score given the pressures of a semi final. Not much batting after these two though.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
It's not a phase for Australia. They really don't have anymore talent in store. All the best players are playing today (except Shawn Marsh and Khawaja).
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Then we can argue that Aussies of 2000s was a phase as its not common to produce such legendary sides every decade. WI of 80s and Aussies of 2000s are rare occurrences of crickets and are outliers so expecting those countries to produce similar talent every decade is unrealistic expectation.
 
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