Ayodhya Ram Mandir: India PM Modi inaugurates Hindu temple on razed Babri mosque site [Update in post#488]

[Local.Dada]

This is wishful delusion. Pakistan has opened a corridor for Sikhs FROM India. No Muslims in Pakistan have been rewarded after climbing on top of a temple and demolishing it. Pakistan has never elected an extremist government.

You're only fooling yourself.

Number of temples in Pakistan pre and post 47 please?

Also there are Islamic shrines in india that even Hindus visit. Sai Baba of Shirdi was a Muslim saint worshipped by millions of Hindus Hindus even though a lot of Muslims have disowned him probably.

And yes no political party can gain advantage because I don’t think political motivation is required for atrocities when the dirty work becomes business as usual does it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Number of temples in Pakistan pre and post 47 please?

Also there are Islamic shrines in india that even Hindus visit. Sai Baba of Shirdi was a Muslim saint worshipped by millions of Hindus Hindus even though a lot of Muslims have disowned him probably.

And yes no political party can gain advantage because I don’t think political motivation is required for atrocities when the dirty work becomes business as usual does it?

Less temples means a weaker minority so according to your foolish theory there should be more jumping and down on temples like monkeys as we saw with the mosque in India.

The people do not vote for extremists into power, hundreds of millions of Indians voted for an RSS extremist government. Or do you think the BJP are kind , peaceful people loll

 

[IndianHero]

Sunni board says 5-acre mosque land accepted


UP Sunni Central Waqf Board has said that it had already accepted the five-acre alternative land given by the UP government for the construction of a mosque in Ayodhya as per Supreme Court’s order. Board chairperson Zufar Faruqi clarified on Thursday that “it never had the liberty to reject it” once it had said that it would abide by the apex court’s verdict.
“The question of accepting or rejecting the land was never raised by us. Those who had not been given the land by SC were making all the noise about not accepting it. We had decided to follow the apex court's decision,” Faruqi told TOI.

More at :

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/m.ti...ue-land-accepted/amp_articleshow/74233822.cms

 

[IndianHero]

so finally sunni board accepted the 5 acre land offer given to them and a grand mosque will be constructed by govt along with ram mandir at their allocated site !

Lots of thanks to bhagwaan/allah for solving this issue amicably & peacefully ! Hope this decision brings peace between two communities! God is good, conquer peace !

 

[andy0204]

so finally sunni board accepted the 5 acre land offer given to them and a grand mosque will be constructed by govt along with ram mandir at their allocated site !

Lots of thanks to bhagwaan/allah for solving this issue amicably & peacefully ! Hope this decision brings peace between two communities! God is good, conquer peace !

Is Sunni board are the representatives of Muslims?

 

[IndianHero]

Is Sunni board are the representatives of Muslims?

Yes they are. They are the ones who filed petition on the ownership of the site on behalf of muslims !

 

[CanadianG00se]

Yes they are. They are the ones who filed petition on the ownership of the site on behalf of muslims !

They do not represent entire Muslim community of India. But you’re right they were the ones who were fighting the case.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Is Sunni board are the representatives of Muslims?

No they are not. Every sects of Muslim have their community leadership. Shia, Sunni, Bohra, Ismailis etc. have their own governing body that represents them. I do not think there is any single body that represents entire Muslim community.

 

[KingKhanWC]

so finally sunni board accepted the 5 acre land offer given to them and a grand mosque will be constructed by govt along with ram mandir at their allocated site !

Lots of thanks to bhagwaan/allah for solving this issue amicably & peacefully ! Hope this decision brings peace between two communities! God is good, conquer peace !

This is the start of a bloody communal violence which you will see in the future. This precedent has already made waves with extremist Hindus wanting more mosques to be taken down because they believe some temple was present.

Clearly the Muslims who have accepted this have done out of fear. But this is Indian Muslims for you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is the start of a bloody communal violence which you will see in the future. This precedent has already made waves with extremist Hindus wanting more mosques to be taken down because they believe some temple was present.

Clearly the Muslims who have accepted this have done out of fear. But this is Indian Muslims for you.

Clearly everyone doesn't have the same love for violence as you do.

People obey the judgement of courts.

You will too when a UK court says something.

Regarding Indian Muslims, well they are far better than many others. A population of 150mn plus and hardly few have been ever radicalized by ISIS. Neither they are found indulging in terrorist activities in the west.

 

[andy0204]

This is the start of a bloody communal violence which you will see in the future. This precedent has already made waves with extremist Hindus wanting more mosques to be taken down because they believe some temple was present.

Clearly the Muslims who have accepted this have done out of fear. But this is Indian Muslims for you.

Khan Bhai calm down,I know what it feels like,I felt like I lost a property but everything here is temporary sometimes you need to move on according to circumstances,Allah bahot bada hai woh kuch na kuch karega.

 

[cric_man]

So was the actual act of demolishing the mosque deemed an illegal act by the Courts of India?
If so, was anyone ever convicted of it?

If it was deemed illegal, how did the Supreme court allocate the land to the Hindus to build their temple?
It would seem like rewarding the vandals for their acts.

It would come under "Fruits of a Poisonous Tree"

I remember watching it live on TV. Thousands of zealots swarming the Mosque and 2 policeman standing on the side with their lathis and eating bananas.

Still waiting for a reply on this?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Still waiting for a reply on this?

There are a billion plus hindus, act of a few vandals cannot deprive them of their right to worship Lord Ram at his placebof birth.

The vandals are being criminally prosecuted in the courts.

 

[Mahee]

Kudos to supreme Court....well done Modi

 

[Iqbal'sh]

The vandals are being criminally prosecuted in the courts.

Of course they are, 28 years after the incident this is your best response?
What about the politicians that stirred the mob to demolish the mosque?
Are you going to wait until they have all past away before your judiciary grows a pair?

Is there a more high profile incident in independent India than this? The sheer lack of attention to the perpetrators gives you the answer about the reality of secular India and it’s minority discrimination.

 

[Arya]

Of course they are, 28 years after the incident this is your best response?
What about the politicians that stirred the mob to demolish the mosque?
Are you going to wait until they have all past away before your judiciary grows a pair?

Is there a more high profile incident in independent India than this? The sheer lack of attention to the perpetrators gives you the answer about the reality of secular India and it’s minority discrimination.

Many, you just care about this more.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Many, you just care about this more.

Me caring about this more is your uninformed opinion but kindly share those incidents that created international ripples on the same level

 

[cricketjoshila]

Of course they are, 28 years after the incident this is your best response?
What about the politicians that stirred the mob to demolish the mosque?
Are you going to wait until they have all past away before your judiciary grows a pair?

Is there a more high profile incident in independent India than this? The sheer lack of attention to the perpetrators gives you the answer about the reality of secular India and it’s minority discrimination.

It took more than 70 years for the Ram Mandir case to be decided by the courts. The Indian judiciary is excruciatingly slow.

So this is nothing new.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Me caring about this more is your uninformed opinion but kindly share those incidents that created international ripples on the same level

Justice isnt about international ripples. That doesnt decide the course.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Of course they are, 28 years after the incident this is your best response?
What about the politicians that stirred the mob to demolish the mosque?
Are you going to wait until they have all past away before your judiciary grows a pair?

Is there a more high profile incident in independent India than this? The sheer lack of attention to the perpetrators gives you the answer about the reality of secular India and it’s minority discrimination.

You are wasting your time. The 'vandals' are regarded as heroes in India, just like their idol Modi. The Indian courts and judges also regard them as heroes, although obviously you won't get anyone on here admitting it. They will come back with "justice takes time" or "Indian courts decide what is illegal, not outsiders".

 

[Hitman]

This is the start of a bloody communal violence which you will see in the future. This precedent has already made waves with extremist Hindus wanting more mosques to be taken down because they believe some temple was present.

Clearly the Muslims who have accepted this have done out of fear. But this is Indian Muslims for you.

Of course you would hope for it to happen. No surprises.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Of course you would hope for it to happen. No surprises.

The way he supports violence and terrorism is scary.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Justice isnt about international ripples. That doesnt decide the course.

Learn to comprehend posts before jumping into the deep end. International ripples in terms of other comparable incidents, of which the other poster said there were many more much higher profile incidents, it was not international ripples in terms of judiciary actions.
Seems no one wants to post these other incidents that were of the same or of a higher magnitude.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

It took more than 70 years for the Ram Mandir case to be decided by the courts. The Indian judiciary is excruciatingly slow.

So this is nothing new.

The Ram Mandir case was complex on many levels. A dangerous blend of religion and politics, trying to placate the majority whilst managing a false international reputation of secularism and trying to decide against the weight of evidence whilst appearing to remain impartial.
I can understand why this would take 7 decades however the politicians who caused the demolition through their explosive speeches and the extremists who undertook the actions were identified pretty much straight away. So why the delay? What are the defensive arguments presented to the judiciary that led them to mull over the outcome for nearly three decades?
It’s an open and shut case.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

You are wasting your time. The 'vandals' are regarded as heroes in India, just like their idol Modi. The Indian courts and judges also regard them as heroes, although obviously you won't get anyone on here admitting it. They will come back with "justice takes time" or "Indian courts decide what is illegal, not outsiders".

I know but today I have some time that can be wasted

 

[cricketjoshila]

Learn to comprehend posts before jumping into the deep end. International ripples in terms of other comparable incidents, of which the other poster said there were many more much higher profile incidents, it was not international ripples in terms of judiciary actions.
Seems no one wants to post these other incidents that were of the same or of a higher magnitude.

Many. 26/11 attacks. Delhi rape case. And many others.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The Ram Mandir case was complex on many levels. A dangerous blend of religion and politics, trying to placate the majority whilst managing a false international reputation of secularism and trying to decide against the weight of evidence whilst appearing to remain impartial.
I can understand why this would take 7 decades however the politicians who caused the demolition through their explosive speeches and the extremists who undertook the actions were identified pretty much straight away. So why the delay? What are the defensive arguments presented to the judiciary that led them to mull over the outcome for nearly three decades?
It’s an open and shut case.

A country doesnt have to be secular to have international reputation.

The Ayodhya issue was an open and shut case. Muslims got their land in 1947, hindus should have got their temples.

But Nehru in his quest to become great put his faulty, secularism's burden on Hindus. In no country can a minority demolish a Majority religions religious structure and then claim secularism.

You identified everyone among a mob of 1000s? Wow.

Those who were involved,many were caught and put in jail and only bailed after months or years.


The case will be settled in course of time.

The 1984 sikh riots cases are still going on. They precede Babri case by almost a decade.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are wasting your time. The 'vandals' are regarded as heroes in India, just like their idol Modi. The Indian courts and judges also regard them as heroes, although obviously you won't get anyone on here admitting it. They will come back with "justice takes time" or "Indian courts decide what is illegal, not outsiders".

And this rant has even lesser value than Imran Khans on twitter.

 

[Hitman]

The way he supports violence and terrorism is scary.

That’s because it doesn’t concern his country. He would love to see his fantasies come to life in other countries though.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I know but today I have some time that can be wasted��

Go for it bro, just understand that these bot farms are designed to keep constantly engaged on behalf of the dear leader.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Many. 26/11 attacks. Delhi rape case. And many others.

You have listed two here. I will run with these.
For both list the date of incident and the date of conviction of the perpetrators. Are you able to do this?
Then kindly explain if the Indian judiciary was equally slow in these cases or they somehow discovered some performance enhancing drugs that made them act faster than a pronghorn antelope.
Then provide a probable reason as to the discrepancy (if applicable)

 

[kk1992]

You are wasting your time. The 'vandals' are regarded as heroes in India, just like their idol Modi. The Indian courts and judges also regard them as heroes, although obviously you won't get anyone on here admitting it. They will come back with "justice takes time" or "Indian courts decide what is illegal, not outsiders".

This, I can't understand why are these people are so afraid to admit who they are and openly afraid to support what their leaders for doing what they were elected to do.

Like, why are you afraid of showing your true face, you have the world backing you up, you have a country and government backing your up but yet still afraid to be who you are.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

You identified everyone among a mob of 1000s? Wow.

Those who were involved,many were caught and put in jail and only bailed after months or years.

You mean you didn’t recognise those politicians that spread hate speech that led to the mobs actions. How many got rewarded with government positions and how many have been convicted or even had a day in court? Open and shut case - so what’s causing the delay?
Bailed after months or years - a pattern that repeats itself in India when the offender belongs to a certain persuasion.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Go for it bro, just understand that these bot farms are designed to keep constantly engaged on behalf of the dear leader.

I know this, he will disappear soon enough and reappear in a couple of days to spew the same level rubbish

 

[cric_man]

So was the actual act of demolishing the mosque deemed an illegal act by the Courts of India?
If so, was anyone ever convicted of it?

If it was deemed illegal, how did the Supreme court allocate the land to the Hindus to build their temple?
It would seem like rewarding the vandals for their acts.

It would come under "Fruits of a Poisonous Tree"

I remember watching it live on TV. Thousands of zealots swarming the Mosque and 2 policeman standing on the side with their lathis and eating bananas.

Still waiting for a reply on this?

There are a billion plus hindus, act of a few vandals cannot deprive them of their right to worship Lord Ram at his placebof birth.

The vandals are being criminally prosecuted in the courts.

There were not a few, but thousands of zealots that descended upon the masjid with heavy equipment while the police looked on nonchalantly. They were actively incited by the likes of LK Advani. And no one has been prosecuted. Some lower minions may have cases registered against them that are still dragging on for the past 28 years. Same with Samjhota Express bombing, all accused have been released or acquitted.

Indian Supreme Court has set up a wrong precedent by their ruling on something that was achieved illegally in the first place. What stops Hindu zealots from fabricating destroyed mandirs under Taj Mahal or Jamia Masjid Delhi knowing that the law will not touch them or a few can become martyrs in a higher cause.

 

[Rajdeep]

Temple remains and idol residues found in Ayodhya during levelling of land

The leveling work for the development of a grand Ram temple is in progress. On Wednesday, the remains of the temple have been discovered within the excavation being completed. The work of levelling the outdated sanctum sanctorum of Ramjanmabhoomi advanced is occurring from May 11. It is under the supervision of Shri Ram Janmabhoomi Tirtha Kshetra Trust. So far as the excavation is on, varied artifacts, amalakas and several types of stones have been discovered, together with the remains of the temple and idols.

https://m.timesofindia.com/videos/c...-levelling-of-land/amp_videoshow/75860987.cms

 

[The Viper]

Pakistan condemns commencement of temple construction at site of Babri Masjid in Ayodhya: FO

The Foreign Office (FO) on Wednesday condemned the Indian government's decision to proceed with the construction of a mandir at the site of the historic Babri Masjid in Ayodhya.

In a statement, FO Spokesperson Aisha Farooqui said: "While the world is grappling with the unprecedented Covid-19 pandemic, the RSS-BJP combine in India is busy unabashedly advancing the 'Hindutva' agenda.

"The commencement of [the] construction of a mandir at the site of the historic Babri Masjid in Ayodhya on May 26 is another step in this direction and the government and people of Pakistan condemn it in the strongest terms."

Last year in November, the Indian Supreme Court had allowed the construction of a temple at the site where once the 16th century Babri Masjid stood.

The dispute over land ownership has been one of India’s most heated issues, with Hindu nationalists demanding a temple on the site for more than a century.

The Mughal-era mosque was destroyed by Hindu hard-liners in December 1992, sparking massive Hindu-Muslim violence that left some 2,000 people dead.

In today's statement, the FO spokesperson called the commencement of construction "a sequel to the controversial decision given by the Indian Supreme Court [...] which completely failed to uphold the demands of justice".

"The [Indian] Supreme Court's verdict shredded the veneer of so-called 'secularism' of India by making clear that minorities are not safe in India and that they have to fear for their lives, beliefs and places of worship.

"The developments relating to Babri Masjid, the discriminatory Citizenship Amendment Act, initiation of the National Register of Citizens, and the targeted killings of Muslims in India in February are vivid illustrations of how Muslims in India are being marginalised, dispossessed, demonised and subjected to senseless violence."

The statement added: "Frequent mob lynchings by cow vigilantes, and sinister schemes like 'ghar wapsi', 'love jihad', and 'corona jihad' are part of this mindset. The right-wing 'Hindutva' agenda, which appears to have permeated state institutions, is moving fast towards turning India into a 'Hindu Rashtra'."

The statement said that today's India, under the RSS-BJP sway, is driven by the "toxic mix of an extremist ideology and hegemonic ambitions". The result is a growing threat to the safety and well-being of minorities in India and to peace and security in the region and abroad, it said.

"The rising tide of religious bigotry in India is well-documented by international human rights organisations, regularly highlighted by international media and raised in a number of Parliaments.

"The international community must hold India [accountable] for the continuous violations of human rights of minorities and urge the Indian government to take immediate steps to ensure that the rights of all minorities are fully protected and promoted as per India's obligations under international instruments to which it is a party," the statement concluded.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1559734/p...ruction-at-site-of-babri-masjid-in-ayodhya-fo

 

[The Viper]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While &#55356;&#57102; is grappling with unprecedented <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a>, RSS-BJP combine is busy unabashedly advancing “Hindutva” agenda. The commencement of construction of a Mandir at the site of Babri Masjid is another step in this direction & Govt & people of &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; condemn it in the strongest terms. <a href="https://t.co/1V4iWW7tvi">pic.twitter.com/1V4iWW7tvi</a></p>— Spokesperson &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; MoFA (@ForeignOfficePk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ForeignOfficePk/status/1265693021166809088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[cricketjoshila]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While &#55356;&#57102; is grappling with unprecedented <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a>, RSS-BJP combine is busy unabashedly advancing “Hindutva” agenda. The commencement of construction of a Mandir at the site of Babri Masjid is another step in this direction & Govt & people of &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; condemn it in the strongest terms. <a href="https://t.co/1V4iWW7tvi">pic.twitter.com/1V4iWW7tvi</a></p>— Spokesperson &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; MoFA (@ForeignOfficePk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ForeignOfficePk/status/1265693021166809088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tu kaun? Main khama kha!!!!

 

[Abdullah719]

End of COVID-19 will start when Ram temple construction begins: BJP leader

Fervour over the construction of the Ram temple in Ayodhya, scheduled to start on August 5, is growing.

Construction of a Ram temple in Ayodhya had been a key element of the BJP's ideology throughout its existence. But Madhya Pradesh Assembly Protem Speaker Rameshwar Sharma appears to have taken enthusiasm for the Ram temple to a whole new level.

Speaking to reporters in Gwalior on Wednesday, Sharma compared COVID-19 to a mythical demon that would be slain by Lord Ram. "He [Lord Ram] had reincarnated for the welfare of mankind and to kill demons at that time. As soon as the construction of Ram temple begins, the destruction of the COVID pandemic will begin too,” Sharma was quoted as saying by ANI.

"Not only India, but entire world is suffering due to coronavirus. We are not only maintaining social distancing but also remembering our holy figures. The Supreme Court has ordered that Ram temple be built," Sharma was quoted by ANI as saying.

The foundation stone-laying ceremony of the Ram temple on August 5 has already attracted some criticism given the continuing COVID-19 pandemic. NCP supremo Sharad Pawar had recently claimed, "We are all thinking of how to fight the battle against coronavirus, but some people think that coronavirus will be mitigated by building a temple..."

BJP Rajya Sabha MP Subramanian Swamy had slammed Pawar for his comments, saying India could fight both COVID-19 and build a Ram temple. Swamy told Republic TV, “We can fight COVID-19 as well as inaugurate Ram Temple both. I don't understand [what] Mr Pawar is saying. Has he started losing his mental faculties or what in the company of the Congress? How can he possibly in this country like this compare fighting COVID-19 with the project of building a Ram Temple after all the struggle of 500 years. I think he should apologise to the people of India."

https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2...am-temple-construction-begins-bjp-leader.html

 

[Hornbill]

PM Modiji likely to attend Ram temple ground-breaking event at Ayodhya

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...ing-event-at-ayodhya/article32152447.ece/amp/

 

[MP2011]

End of COVID-19 will start when Ram temple construction begins: BJP leader

Fervour over the construction of the Ram temple in Ayodhya, scheduled to start on August 5, is growing.

Construction of a Ram temple in Ayodhya had been a key element of the BJP's ideology throughout its existence. But Madhya Pradesh Assembly Protem Speaker Rameshwar Sharma appears to have taken enthusiasm for the Ram temple to a whole new level.

Speaking to reporters in Gwalior on Wednesday, Sharma compared COVID-19 to a mythical demon that would be slain by Lord Ram. "He [Lord Ram] had reincarnated for the welfare of mankind and to kill demons at that time. As soon as the construction of Ram temple begins, the destruction of the COVID pandemic will begin too,” Sharma was quoted as saying by ANI.

"Not only India, but entire world is suffering due to coronavirus. We are not only maintaining social distancing but also remembering our holy figures. The Supreme Court has ordered that Ram temple be built," Sharma was quoted by ANI as saying.

The foundation stone-laying ceremony of the Ram temple on August 5 has already attracted some criticism given the continuing COVID-19 pandemic. NCP supremo Sharad Pawar had recently claimed, "We are all thinking of how to fight the battle against coronavirus, but some people think that coronavirus will be mitigated by building a temple..."

BJP Rajya Sabha MP Subramanian Swamy had slammed Pawar for his comments, saying India could fight both COVID-19 and build a Ram temple. Swamy told Republic TV, “We can fight COVID-19 as well as inaugurate Ram Temple both. I don't understand [what] Mr Pawar is saying. Has he started losing his mental faculties or what in the company of the Congress? How can he possibly in this country like this compare fighting COVID-19 with the project of building a Ram Temple after all the struggle of 500 years. I think he should apologise to the people of India."

https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2...am-temple-construction-begins-bjp-leader.html

No wonder, our Covid numbers are in such a horrible state under these bigots.

 

[Abdullah719]

Ayodhya priest, 15 policemen test Covid-19 +ve ahead of Ram temple event

A priest and 15 policemen on duty at the Ram temple site in Ayodhya, where the bhoomi pujan (groundbreaking ceremony) for the temple will take place next week, have tested positive for coronavirus.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is scheduled to attend the ceremony on August 5, for which Diwali-like preparations are in full swing.

The Shri Ram Janmabhoomi Teertha Kshetra Trust has issued an appeal to all saints across the country to perform puja in their respective temples and Maths from 11.30 am to 12.30 pm on August 5. Champat Rai, general secretary of the Trust, requested people to watch the live telecast of bhoomi pujan on television and light earthen lamps at home in the evening.

Last week, Uttar Pradesh chief minister Yogi Adityanath had visited the Ram Janmabhoomi complex to review preparations for the mega event.

For the ceremony on August 5, 11 priests from Varanasi and Ayodhya will perform the puja. Pradeep Das, priest who tested positive, is not part of this group of 11.

The Trust has decided to get the entire Ram Janmabhoomi campus sanitised on a daily basis.

“There is nothing to worry about. One of the priests who performs daily rituals at the temple site has tested positive. The entire campus will be sanitised on a routine basis,” said Mahant Kamal Nayan Das, successor designate to Mahant Nritya Gopal Das, chairman of the Trust.

Some 200 people have been invited for the programme. All chief ministers from different states will be invited as well, said swami Govind Dev Giri, treasurer of the Trust.

Veteran BJP leader and former deputy prime minister LK Advani and other leaders of the Ram Janmabhoomi agitation will also be invited to the ceremony, said a Trust member.

In Ayodhya, elaborate preparations are being planned for the three-day Vedic rituals at the Ram Janmabhoomi site. The rituals will begin on August 3 and end with a bhoomi pujan on August 5 before the construction of the much awaited temple begins.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...19-positive/story-ULihQTezt3Z6Gps9JrMBWJ.html

 

[Rajdeep]

Lord Ram’s images to be displayed in Times Square to celebrate August 5 Ayodhya Temple groundbreaking ceremony

Prominent community leader and President of the American India Public Affairs Committee Jagdish Sewhani on Wednesday said that arrangements are being made to celebrate the historic moment in New York on August.


https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...ram-temple-groundbreaking/article32228104.ece

 

[Abdullah719]

Ad on Ram Temple Won’t Be Showing at Times Square, Say Diaspora Groups Who Fought It

San Francisco: A rainbow coalition of South Asian civil rights groups in the US, across all religions, has come together at short notice to protest plans by Hindutva groups to beam portraits of Lord Ram and images of the Ram Temple across Times Square on August 5 to celebrate the laying of the temple’s foundation by India’s prime minister in Ayodhya.

The temple is being built on the site where mobs destroyed the historic Babri Masjid in December 1992, sparking communal violence across India.

Dr Shaik Ubaid, president of the Indian Minorities Advocacy Network, told The Wire that Denise Levine of the Branded Cities Network, the organisation in charge of ads on the Nasdaq Building, had assured him over the phone that her organisation would not run ads for groups involved in demolishing a mosque. “She gave me her word that she would not run the ads,” he says. The Wire contacted Levine but was not able to independently confirm this. This story will be updated after receiving her comments.

Less than a week ago, Hindu nationalist groups announced plans to beam ads supporting the construction of the Ram Mandir at Times Square. Jagdish Sewhani, president of the American India Public Affairs Committee and a long time member of Hindu nationalist organisation, RSS, was widely quoted in the Indian media on the arrangements being made to celebrate the Ram temple, such as the leasing of billboards on Times Square, including the giant Nasdaq screen, which would purportedly be used to beam the words Jai Shri Ram, along with images of Ram and of the temple. The exact cost of the banner is not known, but runs into thousands of dollars per day.

South Asian civil rights groups said they had very little time to mount pressure against the ads. Activists came together to petition New York mayor Bill de Blasio against “Islamophobic billboard set to be projected in Times Square in order to dehumanise Muslim New Yorkers and celebrate human rights abuses against Muslims in India”.

The letter to de Blasio was signed by groups such as Coalition Against Fascism in India, Hindus for Human Rights, Ambedkar King Study Circle and Indian American Muslim Council, among many other groups.

The Wire has information that other outdoor ad agencies in Times Square have also been contacted and asked not to carry ads that celebrate the Ram temple.

“We have been trying to educate the community on what such billboards mean for New York. Celebrating something so brutal as this, is like celebrating the Rwandan genocide. The demolition of the Babri Masjid, for all our families, was a critical point in the identity of India. Muslims in India were shaped by what happened at that time. For such an event to be celebrated is an abomination,” says Sana Qutubuddin of the Indian American Muslim Council.

Raja Swamy of India Civil Watch points to the diversity within South Asian groups in the US protesting the celebration of the Ram Mandir. “With one voice, we want to speak truth to power and protest the celebration of the destruction of Indian democracy,” says Swamy.

“Efforts are on to gloss over what was effectively a historic crime. It is a reminder of how strong the Hindutva lobby is in the US. These (Hindutva) organisations position themselves within the space of American multiculturalism. We see their real agenda in moments such as these, where they claim to speak on behalf of all Hindus,” he adds.

Pieter Friedrich, a freelance journalist in the US who has written extensively on Hindutva organisations and personalities in the US, said that this publicity had “nothing to do with religion, but is, instead, a way to promote a political party”.

He feels South Asian civil society groups in the US that are led by minorities have an uphill task, largely because of the level of ignorance in the US about Hindu nationalism. “Nobody in the common American public has any knowledge of Ayodhya, the Ram Mandir or the BJP,” he adds.

https://thewire.in/world/times-square-ram-temple-ad-stopped

 

[Firebat]

Modi, Muslims to attend temple ceremony on contested India site

LUCKNOW, India (Reuters) - Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and two prominent Muslims who lived through deadly riots following the razing of a mosque in 1992 plan to attend the foundation-laying ceremony for a Hindu temple on Wednesday on the same site.

Modi, whose Hindu nationalist party had led demands for a temple there dedicated to the god-king Ram, will unveil a plaque, his office said in a statement.

His visit to the northern Indian town of Ayodhya comes despite his interior and energy ministers both testing positive for COVID-19 days after a cabinet meeting last week.

Construction of the temple was made possible by a verdict last year from the Supreme Court awarding the disputed site to the Hindus. The planned visit by the two well-known Muslims showed an easing of animosity between followers of the two faiths in one of Hindu-majority India’s most communally sensitive regions.

“Whatever happened are things of the past,” said Iqbal Ansari, one of the Muslim litigants. “I’ve been invited and I think it’s the wish of Lord Ram and I am going to attend it.”

Mohammad Sharif, another Muslim honoured with one of India’s highest civilian awards for doing the last rites of unclaimed bodies since the riots, said he too had got an invitation and was keen to be there.

In 1992, a Hindu mob destroyed the 16th-century Babri Mosque on the site, triggering clashes in which about 2,000 people, mostly Muslims, were killed. Hindus believe the site is the birthplace of Lord Ram, a physical incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu.

Barricades have been put up across the town with heavy police presence, as authorities try to limit the number of visitors to maintain social distancing. At least two priests in the area and four policemen have tested positive for COVID-19.

Still, nearly 200 people are likely to be there at the event, including 135 holy people and priests from Nepal.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...eremony-on-contested-india-site-idUSKCN2500YF

 

[Rajdeep]

This 'bhoomi pujan' of Ram mandir is an unofficial passing of torch moment for India from being a secular nation to hindu rastra. Anyone who lives here understands it. There is a celebration like feeling in the entire country, non stop coverge in mainstream media and with PM himself visiting, reveals it all. It was bound to happen one day. We cant have neighbouring countries formed based on religion but India remains secular. This unfair arrangement could never have gone longer and its getting over from tomorrow.

 

[JaDed]

This 'bhoomi pujan' of Ram mandir is an unofficial passing of torch moment for India from being a secular nation to hindu rastra. Anyone who lives here understands it. There is a celebration like feeling in the entire country, non stop coverge in mainstream media and with PM himself visiting, reveals it all. It was bound to happen one day. We cant have neighbouring countries formed based on religion but India remains secular. This unfair arrangement could never have gone longer and its getting over from tomorrow.

There is no celebration feeling in entire country, just among the radical ones who want to convert Hinduism to Hindutva based religion.

Death to the idea of Hindutva fascism and long live pluralism.

 

[CricketCartoons]

There is no celebration feeling in entire country, just among the radical ones who want to convert Hinduism to Hindutva based religion.

Death to the idea of Hindutva fascism and long live pluralism.

Hindutva is reformed version of hinduism. Hindutva should be new hinduism.

 

[JaDed]

Hindutva is reformed version of hinduism. Hindutva should be new hinduism.

Just like Communism should be the new form of Capitalism.

 

[Syed1]

Corona is hitting 50k+ new cases in India and nearly a 1000 are dying everyday but for this hindutva chaiwala inaugurating a temple is more important.



He is the best thing to happen to India from a Pakistani perspective.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There is no celebration feeling in entire country, just among the radical ones who want to convert Hinduism to Hindutva based religion.

Death to the idea of Hindutva fascism and long live pluralism.

Secularism in India will die because of the kind of statements AIMPLB has made. And also by certain "muslims".

India is more than 80 per cent non muslims, and while in last few decades politicians may have gone overboard and made some muslims feel that the country will toe a line that satisfies muslims, its not going to happen in the long term. Fall of congress and most of its allies have proven that.

The non muslim majority will not tolerate the threats coming from muslim organisations. And this time there will be no political muzzling.

Muslims like everyone has equal rights. The country will not be run according to the diktats of a few muslim organisations. Those days are gone.

 

[Rajdeep]

Corona is hitting 50k+ new cases in India and nearly a 1000 are dying everyday but for this hindutva chaiwala inaugurating a temple is more important.



He is the best thing to happen to India from a Pakistani perspective.

Are you implying 1000 Indians dying everyday is the best thing to have happened to Pakistan?

 

[Syed1]

Are you implying 1000 Indians dying everyday is the best thing to have happened to Pakistan?

No, your leader's misplaced priorities are the best thing to happen to Pakistan. Ask yourself why economic data is being hidden? Why is your industry facing double digit negative growth due to lockdown yet your leader is busy opening temples.


Also I won't fall to your hindutva level and celebrate death of innocents. You lot even celebrate plane crash and terrorist attacks.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Is August 5, the inauguration day a coincidence? August 5 marks 1st anniversary of lockdown in Kashmir too.

 

[JaDed]

Secularism in India will die because of the kind of statements AIMPLB has made. And also by certain "muslims".

India is more than 80 per cent non muslims, and while in last few decades politicians may have gone overboard and made some muslims feel that the country will toe a line that satisfies muslims, its not going to happen in the long term. Fall of congress and most of its allies have proven that.

The non muslim majority will not tolerate the threats coming from muslim organisations. And this time there will be no political muzzling.

Muslims like everyone has equal rights. The country will not be run according to the diktats of a few muslim organisations. Those days are gone.

Yes the non-Muslim majority will only tolerate riots and threats from majority fascist party!

 

[Mesozoic]

August 5 should officially be celebrated as meltdown jayanti every year from now on.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes the non-Muslim majority will only tolerate riots and threats from majority fascist party!

Anyone who doesn't give into the demands of mudlim organisations is fascist for you. While AIMPLB snd its ilk can issue threats. While Rana Ayub and co can object to Ramayana telecast on Tv.

This is not an islamic nation, it will not be run by the diktats of muslim organisations and according to what they like.

 

[JaDed]

Anyone who doesn't give into the demands of mudlim organisations is fascist for you. While AIMPLB snd its ilk can issue threats. While Rana Ayub and co can object to Ramayana telecast on Tv.

This is not an islamic nation, it will not be run by the diktats of muslim organisations and according to what they like.

What does objecting have to do with anything? No one is saying to give into demands but follow the law and order if someone is threatening incl BJP MP,MLAs put a case of them.

Police reforms over Hindutva Rashtra is the need, enforcing existing laws would also help.

Your logic is filled with insecurity of the negative kind where nothing constructive occurs.

 

[srh]

Indian muslims will take it back one day.

 

[CricketCartoons]

What does objecting have to do with anything? No one is saying to give into demands but follow the law and order if someone is threatening incl BJP MP,MLAs put a case of them.

Police reforms over Hindutva Rashtra is the need, enforcing existing laws would also help.

Your logic is filled with insecurity of the negative kind where nothing constructive occurs.

You are living in the period of the Hindu Renaissance. Exciting time for an Indian to be alive.

 

[JaDed]

You are living in the period of the Hindu Renaissance. Exciting time for an Indian to be alive.

That's probably how the right wing leaders on top of the pyramid think about it with Ghulam Ali singing in the background in their heads.

Nothing exciting but chaotic for an Average Indian.

 

[CricketCartoons]

That's probably how the right wing leaders on top of the pyramid think about it with Ghulam Ali singing in the background in their heads.

Nothing exciting but chaotic for an Average Indian.

It is a good time to be a hindu. Lots of money can be made if you can prove yourself useful. Lots of open vacancies for educated and articulate hindus espousing the "Cause".

 

[Syed1]

That's probably how the right wing leaders on top of the pyramid think about it with Ghulam Ali singing in the background in their heads.

Nothing exciting but chaotic for an Average Indian.

Incorrect. You are severely in the minority.

 

[MP2011]

When you fail on all fronts of even providing average governance to your citizens, these moments of artificial happiness act as succour and help you hide your gross incompetence.

 

[MP2011]

Is August 5, the inauguration day a coincidence? August 5 marks 1st anniversary of lockdown in Kashmir too.

No it's not a coincidence.

 

[MP2011]

There is no celebration feeling in entire country, just among the radical ones who want to convert Hinduism to Hindutva based religion.

Death to the idea of Hindutva fascism and long live pluralism.

True. Just that some brainwashed and gullible Hindus whose devotion towards Shri Ram needs a place made of brick and mortar, are super happy today.

Most of the people (including a large number of Hindus) are however absolutely despondent to see what has happened to their beloved country under these fascists.

 

[Kashur_Kalkharab]

so finally sunni board accepted the 5 acre land offer given to them and a grand mosque will be constructed by govt along with ram mandir at their allocated site !

Lots of thanks to bhagwaan/allah for solving this issue amicably & peacefully ! Hope this decision brings peace between two communities! God is good, conquer peace !

All I can see is all the Indian hindus celebrating it as a Trump. A loosing side is not supposed to be satisfied with a decision and Muslims of India were robbed by indian supreme Court.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Most of the people (including a large number of Hindus) are however absolutely despondent to see what has happened to their beloved country under these fascists.

Where do these "most of the people" go when it comes to elections? Why don't they make themselves heard?

 

[Kashur_Kalkharab]

If I was an animal poacher and I had some influence in an institution such as supreme Court, I would legally make poaching allowed for myself through supreme Court.
If I was a rapist and I was also the PM of India, I would make rape exclusively legal for myself.
If I was a murderer and I could manipulate the judges (by appointing the people supporting me, by threatening those against me through goons, by providing a huge money etc), I would happily have it exclusively allowed for myself.
Also if I was such privileged, I would have the law enforcement bodies defending me.

Sorry for these sort of extreme examples but this is what has happened in this case, supreme Court is just a tool used here to pave a way for a mandar in place of mosque.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Corona cases are rising in India and all Modi cares about is temple as if this will cover all the dumb decisions he has taken so far lol.

 

[Slog]

It’s kind of weird. For some Hindus it seems it is a huge emotional event and they are finally seeing their sacred place getting a temple. I saw an interview of a 80+ year old man and the happiness and sense of relief was touching. For them I feel happy I guess and I cannot begrudge them. I just put myself in their same position and the happiness they must have would be unexplainable. I remember when I saw the Kaaba the first time during umrah it was a feeling I have never felt before so it must be similar.

However; for others this seems like a show of strength and revenge on Muslims; and now they are already talking about destroying and converting other mosques. And that is what bothers me as a human. The way it was achieve: (destroying a mosque illegally and then a shame court case) and that the motivation and happiness is not due to emotional religious sentiment but due to a sense of ‘righting’ wrongs and frankly showing your insecurities

Anyways congrats to people who genuinely feel happy at that prospect.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Is August 5, the inauguration day a coincidence? August 5 marks 1st anniversary of lockdown in Kashmir too.

Looks planned to me. Can't even imagine what kashmiris are going through. At least those who have experienced 2 months of lockdown with internet should have some shame. This is like putting your own people in jail for a year.

 

[OldWarHorse]

I still dont understand why the govt has to be actively involved in religious activities. Nobody is even trying anymore to be in the background. Hindutva is being shoved down our throats pretty much.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I still dont understand why the govt has to be actively involved in religious activities. Nobody is even trying anymore to be in the background. Hindutva is being shoved down our throats pretty much.

It was part of the BJP manifesto. All in the open before elections.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I was one of those atheist hindus but have made a leap of faith and become a twice born hindu today.

 

[OldWarHorse]

It was part of the BJP manifesto. All in the open before elections.

Its one thing to get the mandir built but being involved in the Puja is too much for me.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Its one thing to get the mandir built but being involved in the Puja is too much for me.

Being involved in the puja shows it was not just an electoral promise, but something they spiritually believed in as well.

You should question why congress leaders are taking the hindutva line instead.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its one thing to get the mandir built but being involved in the Puja is too much for me.

If govt can build haj houses, fund haj for decades, throw iftar parties, pay salary to masjid priests and so on, why cant Modi visit Ayodhya for Bhumi pujan?

The cost of building the temple and all other costs are being paid through a public subscription. The govt isnt footing the cost.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It’s kind of weird. For some Hindus it seems it is a huge emotional event and they are finally seeing their sacred place getting a temple. I saw an interview of a 80+ year old man and the happiness and sense of relief was touching. For them I feel happy I guess and I cannot begrudge them. I just put myself in their same position and the happiness they must have would be unexplainable. I remember when I saw the Kaaba the first time during umrah it was a feeling I have never felt before so it must be similar.

However; for others this seems like a show of strength and revenge on Muslims; and now they are already talking about destroying and converting other mosques. And that is what bothers me as a human. The way it was achieve: (destroying a mosque illegally and then a shame court case) and that the motivation and happiness is not due to emotional religious sentiment but due to a sense of ‘righting’ wrongs and frankly showing your insecurities

Anyways congrats to people who genuinely feel happy at that prospect.

Sham court case? Can you bother to explain how it was a sham?

This is not about revenge. If hindus wanted revenge then a 80 per cent majority had lot of time over 70 plus years to exact revenge.

AIMPLB yesterday tweeted that literally threatens hindus of doing a Hagia Sofia at the Ram Mandir. Tell me how hindus should respond?