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Bangladesh are still minnows

UzmanBeast said:
Bangladesh have some decent youngsters.

Mehidy Hasan Miraz impressed me, but they need to make use of their home conditions much more.
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Problem with BD youngsters is they just stop developing after a certain point, the likes of Soumya, Mosaddek, Liton, Mominul and others despite playing for years are still not dependable.
 
Bangladesh should prepare different types of pitches e.g. spinning and green(to help fast bowlers).Bangladesh bowling attack is one dimensional and relies too much on spin bowlers.Finally Bangladesh need to play more tests.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Problem with BD youngsters is they just stop developing after a certain point, the likes of Soumya, Mosaddek, Liton, Mominul and others despite playing for years are still not dependable.
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True, but Mehidy looks different than the other youngsters, he looks like he has a pretty high ceiling.

Soumya never really had a high ceiling to be honest. Liton had potential but no consistency.

What will be terrible for Bangladesh cricket is when Shakib + Mushfiqur retire, they won't have a solid middle order after that.
 
Bangladesh's victory over Sri Lanka today is their first win after a run of 9 losses and a draw in international cricket.
 
Bangladesh haven't risen up since 2015 like how they were expected to. They're still hovering around the same place. It's been 6 years since that monumental year but they have pretty much stagnated. The newer players aren't able to sustain their performances. It's still the core of Tamim, Mushfiq, Shakib and Mahmudullah that is doing all the work. Miraz is the only player that has been able to keep up with the development.
Sabbir and Soumya are still as inconsistent. Mustafiz and Taskin are still in an out of the team with varying form. Liton is an exciting prospect but remains to be seen if he will graduate to the next level or not.

Mashrafe's departure has left a big hole in the team from leadership point of view. Now their fab 4 are close to 35 apart from tamim and are close to the end than they are to the start.

They need to start making pitches receptive for fast bowlers in FC and LA. It will help the development of not just fast bowlers but test batters and spinners techniques and temperament.
 
I feel sad to say this because Pakistan is absolute terrible right now.

But BD is even worse. And that tells you all you need to know.
 
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Bangladesh's golden generation (by their standards) will be gone in the next 3 years.

Even with them, they get beaten by Afghanistan and Zimbabwe and Ireland in Tests and ODIs over the years.

Let's see what happens without them.
 
ManFan said:
I feel sad to say this because Pakistan is absolute terrible right now.

But BD is even worse. And that tells you all you need to know.
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It's no coincidence. As the Big 3 selfishly divert resources towards themselves the gap will forever widen between them and the rest. Cricket is effectively dead in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
 
Varun said:
Bangladesh's golden generation (by their standards) will be gone in the next 3 years.

Even with them, they get beaten by Afghanistan and Zimbabwe and Ireland in Tests and ODIs over the years.

Let's see what happens without them.
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If it can happen to Bang and SL then it could be gradually happening in South Africa, Pakistan and West Indies. Will you be saying "lets see what happens without them" then? Or would you be happy with cricket simply consisting of Big 3 series, ICC events (where only big 3 are competitive) and 16 team IPL's?
 
Bangladesh's economy is doing well, and with that comes more resources for the development of the game. I expect them to keep getting better.
 
hitthestump said:
It's no coincidence. As the Big 3 selfishly divert resources towards themselves the gap will forever widen between them and the rest. Cricket is effectively dead in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
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Bangladesh's inability to produce more players of the quality of Shakib, Tamim, Mushfiqur etc. is their own fault. I don't know how BCB is doing financially but seeing the strength of their fanbase and Bangladesh's economy, it can't be that bad.
 
Saifuddin has made alot of difference. And should bat higher in the batting order

Bangladesh has new young talented seamers as well. They won the u19 world cup last year and should play the test team by now.

The batting is still reliant on mushfiq and shakib
 
Scratch that.

Even legitimate minnows (like Ireland or Afghanistan) don't want Bangladesh associated with them.

We need a new word here.
 
Varun said:
Scratch that.

Even legitimate minnows (like Ireland or Afghanistan) don't want Bangladesh associated with them.

We need a new word here.
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9th ranked team definitely could drop out of the top 10 the way they are playing.
 
Surely something needs to be done by ICC if Bangladesh fail to win any test match in this cycle as well. They didn't won any test in last cycle as well.
Maybe World test championship needs to habe 8 top teams only & Bangla can play in 2nd division with Afghanistan, Ireland & Zimbabwe.

They should still play test matches vs top teams but not in a test championship.
 
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Man just the scorecard, this is humiliation of different level for Bdesh. If you can't save a test match after 2.5 days of rain, then u just don't deserve to play test cricket. What's Bdesh obsession with test cricket anyway? Considering they r so bad, why not just give up test cricket and focus only on limited overs formats.
 
happydavy said:
Man just the scorecard, this is humiliation of different level for Bdesh. If you can't save a test match after 2.5 days of rain, then u just don't deserve to play test cricket. What's Bdesh obsession with test cricket anyway? Considering they r so bad, why not just give up test cricket and focus only on limited overs formats.
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There's no obsession otherwise the test matvhes would have been sold out.
IMO it's just a ego thing.
 
There is something wrong with the transition from U19 to senior cricket. Their U19s won the last world cup, their current U19 lot beat an India U19 by 180+ runs in a final yesterday. So talent isn't missing there.
 
redmaverik84 said:
There is something wrong with the transition from U19 to senior cricket. Their U19s won the last world cup, their current U19 lot beat an India U19 by 180+ runs in a final yesterday. So talent isn't missing there.
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Talent is missing they simply don't have any talent. If you see at their players their best ever player is probably Mushfiq or Shakib in test & both averages less than 40 in test cricket. This shows you that they simply don't have any talent at all.
 
redmaverik84 said:
There is something wrong with the transition from U19 to senior cricket. Their U19s won the last world cup, their current U19 lot beat an India U19 by 180+ runs in a final yesterday. So talent isn't missing there.
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Either the domestic system is so poor that the U19 youngsters can't make the transition to senior cricket or there is some serious age fudging going in junior levels.
 
Minnows of highest order..
Just look at their top order, filled with very ordinary left handers.. Better not to talk about their pace bowlers 🤦🏻*♀️
Afghanistan can easily beat these Bangladeshis anywhere in the world.
 
redmaverik84 said:
There is something wrong with the transition from U19 to senior cricket. Their U19s won the last world cup, their current U19 lot beat an India U19 by 180+ runs in a final yesterday. So talent isn't missing there.
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Is is their Board. They might be worse than Sethi's PCB :facepalm:

Surely, they have had really good players over the years. The boards president is messing with star players to boost his ego and it shows on the field.
 
Still minnows. Getting beaten at home by Zimbabwe is utterly minnowesque. Zero talent nation :inti

Interesting to see that PAK bhais had similar opinions for years too as evidenced by the comments in this thread :amla
 
Wow ever since that Indian puppet has gone BD have been getting thrashed left and right except by PCT ofcourse.
 
Bangladesh is a minnow without a doubt.

We are not immature and insecure like the Indians. We are comfortable with the truth. :inti
 
Calling Bangladesh minnow is like saying "sky is blue" or "Bumrah possibly chucks". :inti

Why state the obvious over and over? :inti
 
toygers were always minnows and will always stay minnows. They are the worst sporting nation of all time. In fact they are the most talentless people on this planet earth. There is other significant sized country which is worse than BD l, absolutely none. Only thing this talentless country excels is in cringe dances and empty chest thumping.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
@sweep_shot I see you’ve rattled a few posters here
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sweep_shot said:
They are very easy to rattle. :qdkcheeky

One or two sentences generally do the job. They are like 2 year old kids in terms of maturity.
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The irony and denial in these posts are mind blowing, lmao.

You guys are like toddlers who when they lose an argument, suddenly go on a nonsense tangent and when adults get fed up and move on, you believe you have won the argument.
 
Hellion said:
Still minnows. Getting beaten at home by Zimbabwe is utterly minnowesque. Zero talent nation :inti

Interesting to see that PAK bhais had similar opinions for years too as evidenced by the comments in this thread :amla
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And then PAK went and got themselves embarrassed 2-0 at home. Never in my life have I felt more embarrassed to be a Pakistan cricket team fan. Not even after they lost to Ireland and USA.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
And then PAK went and got themselves embarrassed 2-0 at home. Never in my life have I felt more embarrassed to be a Pakistan cricket team fan. Not even after they lost to Ireland and USA.
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That BD team was full strength. It had Shakib, Litton, Shoriful etc.

This team has some key players missing.

Keep in mind, BD also drew against NZ home and away. :inti
 
Dear Indian posters,

We acknowledge Bangladesh is a minnow just like we acknowledge sky is blue, Bumrah needs to get tested, and India's CT 2025 win is tainted. :inti:inti
 
sweep_shot said:
That BD team was full strength. It had Shakib, Litton, Shoriful etc.

This team has some key players missing.

Keep in mind, BD also drew against NZ home and away. :inti
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During Pakistan tour, Shakib was so bad that you were clamouring for him to get dropped.

Now that you lost at home to Zimbabwe without Shakib

" We were not at full strength". 🤡
 
SportsWarrior said:
toygers were always minnows and will always stay minnows. They are the worst sporting nation of all time. In fact they are the most talentless people on this planet earth. There is other significant sized country which is worse than BD l, absolutely none. Only thing this talentless country excels is in cringe dances and empty chest thumping.
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And defaming tigers....
 
Even individual windies islands should have got better cricketers and better talent than these talentless, brainless and shameless bng players
 
Hellion said:
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During Pakistan tour, Shakib was so bad that you were clamouring for him to get dropped.

Now that you lost at home to Zimbabwe without Shakib

" We were not at full strength". 🤡
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Shakib in that series did well. I noticed you conveniently ignored other players I mentioned (Shoriful and Litton). :inti
 
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sweep_shot said:
Shakib in that series did well. An expired Shakib is better than some of the lalloos who are playing for BD currently.

I noticed you conveniently ignored other players I mentioned (Shoriful and Litton). :inti
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Secondly, Shoriful is just as mediocre as the other trundlers you were playing especially now that he looks like he is struggling to bowl with any pace
 
BD would have drawn less negative attention rather attention but for their fans. To be honest i don't care how they play. But from cricketing perspective I want India to play more matches against Afghanistan and WI than Bangladesh.
 
I support and wish them well Bangladesh but there must be some sort of an investigation as to why they haven't progressed as much as they should have. I don't buy the racist argument by Indians that they are genetically inferior, people once said that about Indians too. These types of arguments are dangerous.

But there has to be some sort of explanation as to why they haven't progressed. Shakib, Mushfiq, Tamim, Mahmdullah and others were good players. They should have achieved way more.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I support and wish them well Bangladesh but there must be some sort of an investigation as to why they haven't progressed as much as they should have. I don't buy the racist argument by Indians that they are genetically inferior, people once said that about Indians too. These types of arguments are dangerous.

But there has to be some sort of explanation as to why they haven't progressed. Shakib, Mushfiq, Tamim, Mahmdullah and others were good players. They should have achieved way more.
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They probably have to look at Srilanka's high school model and replicate in their system. With their economy they are not going to come up with a strong competitive domestic structure. Another option is what Pakistan did in the 70s, 80s. pLaying in county cricket. It teaches you professionalism. Main issue is lack of talent especially in the batting department. Tamim iqbal is their best batsman i suppose in Tests. He is still a level or two below Angelo Matthews.
 
Bangladesh is a minnow because they are a talentless cricket nation. Its as simple as that.

25 years is good enough time to make a mark somehow. But here we are still discussing BD as minnow. Losing to ZIM in a test match is a disgrace.

Give ZIM and AFG all the resources that BD has and they will be a fine mid table team in few years.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I support and wish them well Bangladesh but there must be some sort of an investigation as to why they haven't progressed as much as they should have. I don't buy the racist argument by Indians that they are genetically inferior, people once said that about Indians too. These types of arguments are dangerous.

But there has to be some sort of explanation as to why they haven't progressed. Shakib, Mushfiq, Tamim, Mahmdullah and others were good players. They should have achieved way more.
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"People" ? Lol Pakistanis were foremost in saying that, especially on this forum .

In fact they used to say that about Bangladeshis too.

In terms of BD, their own national coaches have said that and not just one.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I support and wish them well Bangladesh but there must be some sort of an investigation as to why they haven't progressed as much as they should have. I don't buy the racist argument by Indians that they are genetically inferior, people once said that about Indians too. These types of arguments are dangerous.

But there has to be some sort of explanation as to why they haven't progressed. Shakib, Mushfiq, Tamim, Mahmdullah and others were good players. They should have achieved way more.
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The bold is dishing it back to them to show them the mirror every time they come up with their India & Hinduphobia.

Shouldnt dish it if cant take it....
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I support and wish them well Bangladesh but there must be some sort of an investigation as to why they haven't progressed as much as they should have. I don't buy the racist argument by Indians that they are genetically inferior, people once said that about Indians too. These types of arguments are dangerous.

But there has to be some sort of explanation as to why they haven't progressed. Shakib, Mushfiq, Tamim, Mahmdullah and others were good players. They should have achieved way more.
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Racism by Punjabi Pakistanis is the reason there is a separate country of Bangladesh bhai.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I support and wish them well Bangladesh but there must be some sort of an investigation as to why they haven't progressed as much as they should have. I don't buy the racist argument by Indians that they are genetically inferior, people once said that about Indians too. These types of arguments are dangerous.

But there has to be some sort of explanation as to why they haven't progressed. Shakib, Mushfiq, Tamim, Mahmdullah and others were good players. They should have achieved way more.
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Truth is it is not easy for a minnow team to get to next stage. There are many factors involved. After Sri Lanka, no other minnow nation did that. Even Sri Lanka have declined now (to the point they failed to qualify for last CT).

We can do investigations but I doubt it would give us anything new.

They have to try their best and hope for the best. :inti
 
jnaveen1980 said:
They probably have to look at Srilanka's high school model and replicate in their system. With their economy they are not going to come up with a strong competitive domestic structure. Another option is what Pakistan did in the 70s, 80s. pLaying in county cricket. It teaches you professionalism. Main issue is lack of talent especially in the batting department. Tamim iqbal is their best batsman i suppose in Tests. He is still a level or two below Angelo Matthews.
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You are right but we don't even need to expect long term sustained success from there in longer formats. A few flash in the pan performances in LOIs would be ok too but we don't even have much from them. There just seems to be something missing. You don't need a strong domestic structure to throw out a maverick player, a shoaib akhtar type flat footed guy who shouldn;t even be playing cricket, or a malinga, or afghan bowlers who learned from throwing rocks. There seems to be a level of complacency and no desire to approve beyond occasionally winning on spin mambas.

You say county cricket, the T20 equivalent would be IPL - tamim, shakib, mushrafe played in that league but nothing went into their own cricket.

I'd love to hear @MMHS thoughts on why they just haven't moved on even in short formats.
 
It’s ok guys Bangladeshi posters have accepted themselves to be a mediocre nation , let it be.
You can’t force them to care.
 
You are unlikely to see SENA fans discussing whether another country is a minnow or not. This is Indian speciality. They love to spend time in discussing irrelevant things.:inti
 
Bangladesh are unlikely to be even a respectable cricketing nation, at least for a few decades.

The last twenty years have shown that two or three other nations (Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, maybe Ireland) would have done better than Bangladesh had they been given even half the chances.

You cant say they haven't tried. They've developed some fine players - Tamim, Shakib, Mushy come to mibd.
 
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