Bangladesh v Pakistan | 1st Test | Chattogram | 26-30 November, 2021 | Pre-match Discussion

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So what XI will Pakistan play for this 1st Match?

Bangladesh without Shakib so chances much better for Pak to win this with ease.

 

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Pictures (courtesy of the PCB) of Pakistan Test squad practicing ahead of the 1st Test match to be played in Chattogram (26-30 November)

 

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Current standings

 

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Pakistan should get a big win. Innings victory is very likely.

 

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[PakEngFan]

Another series where Abdullah Shafique along with Saud will warm the bench while awful abid Ali will play along with finished Azhar. They 2 could have easily played the domestic games specially Abdullah Shafique.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Abdullah and Azhar should open. Saud at 3. Babar 4. Fawad 5 and Rizwan 6.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

what im thinking is ..Again Pakistan will play their A team against Bangladesh B team...

Pakistan are the minnows here who cant test their bench strength even against a lower ranked test team..

Well they didnt even test against Zimbabwe.. On the other hand well done Bangladesh for selecting a young side to face them in T20I series and fighting hard before losing...

Test match is far fetched for Bangladesh, but with this mindset Pakistan will never be able to build strong team but will always be a team of friends if fired together will upset any team..

 

[Kraetoz]

Abdullah and Azhar should open. Saud at 3. Babar 4. Fawad 5 and Rizwan 6.

Faheem 7, Nauman Ali 8, Zahid Mehmood 9, Shaheen 10, Abbas 11

 

[Kianig89]

Bat first and score 400+ to squeeze Bangladesh and let them crumble

 

[Ami]

Imam
Abid
Azhar
Babar
Fawad
Riz
Faheem
Nauman
Hasan
Afridi
Zahid

I would play Imam, cos any day Abid is gonna be fished out, so at least we'll one reliable opener when that happens.

It would be hard on Sajid Khan to be dropped after doing well against Windies but I do prefer Zahid, the leggie.

As for the rest, Saud, Abdullah and all, let them wait; they're essentially injury covers.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Imam
Abid
Azhar
Babar
Fawad
Riz
Faheem
Nauman
Hasan
Afridi
Zahid

I would play Imam, cos any day Abid is gonna be fished out, so at least we'll one reliable opener when that happens.

It would be hard on Sajid Khan to be dropped after doing well against Windies but I do prefer Zahid, the leggie.

As for the rest, Saud, Abdullah and all, let them wait; they're essentially injury covers.

Sajid didn't play against the WI, he did have a game against Zimbabwe though.

 

[shamaan]

I would go

Azhar
Abid Ali
Saud shakeel
Babar
Fawad
Rizwan
Nuaman Ali
Hassan Ali
Shaheen
Abbas
Zahid Mahmood
I would move azhar to opening and play Saud at 3 instead of Abdullah.

 

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1. Imam
2. Abdullah Shafique
3. Saud Shakeel
4. Babar Azam
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf / Shadab Khan
8. Nauman Ali
9. Hasan Ali
10. Shaheen Shah
11. Zahid Mehmood

The above is ideally the future team of Pakistan. Having said that its not fair to thrust so many youngsters in one XI all of sudden. So we would need Azhar and Fawad Alam to smoothen the transition.

 

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Pakistan today announced their 12-player squad for the first Test against Bangladesh, which will be played at the Ch. Zahoor Ahmed Cricket Stadium, Chittagong from Friday. The match will start at 1000 local time.

Squad (in alphabetical order):

Babar Azam - Captain
Mohammad Rizwan - Vice captain (wicketkeeper)
Abdullah Shafique
Abid Ali
Azhar Ali
Faheem Ashraf
Fawad Alam
Hasan Ali
Imam-ul-Haq
Nauman Ali
Sajid Khan
Shaheen Shah Afridi

The second Test will commence from Saturday, 4 December at Sher-e-Bangla Cricket Stadium Mirpur, Dhaka.

 

[warcry]

will bangladesh lose in 3 days or 4?
stay tuned.

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

With the 12 man squad announced, starting 11 will be;

1. Abid Ali
2. Imam Ul-Haq
3. Azhar Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Fawad Alam
6. Mohammad Rizwan (wk) (vc)
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Sajid Khan
9. Hassan Ali
10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
11. Nauman Ali

12th Man: Abdullah Shafique


Saud Shakeel Should have been in place for Azhar Ali.

 

[shah_1]

Azhar Ali has been averaging 33 in last 4 years, get him out of the team. He looked like a tail ender in WI. He flopped in QEA2021 on flat phattas where every batsmen was scoring centuries for fun.

Babar has a soft spot for his friends. Poor Saud Shakeel

 

[shah_1]

I hope Azhar Ali flops hard

He knows that he is finished but shamelessly carrying on. I'm afraid Saud might go to USA.

 

[Charmander]

Looking like a Pakistan A vs Bangladesh B match. Expect pakistan to go for innings win for both tests

 

[imshally81]

Pakistan today announced their 12-player squad for the first Test against Bangladesh, which will be played at the Ch. Zahoor Ahmed Cricket Stadium, Chittagong from Friday. The match will start at 1000 local time.

Squad (in alphabetical order):

Babar Azam - Captain
Mohammad Rizwan - Vice captain (wicketkeeper)
Abdullah Shafique
Abid Ali
Azhar Ali
Faheem Ashraf
Fawad Alam
Hasan Ali
Imam-ul-Haq
Nauman Ali
Sajid Khan
Shaheen Shah Afridi

The second Test will commence from Saturday, 4 December at Sher-e-Bangla Cricket Stadium Mirpur, Dhaka.

So no M Abbas & Saud Shakeel.. Not a good decision..

 

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Pictures (courtesy of the PCB) of the Pakistan squad training ahead of the 2-match Test series opener which begins tomorrow in Chattogram

 

[ElRaja]

what has sajid khan done to get the nod? looked pretty innocuous against zim, and hasnt really done anything in domestic either, didnt get selected for Pak A, and if theres one type of bowling bang are comfortable against its orthodox spin.

strange selection, zahid would have been a bit of a gamble but could have been something different in a 5 man attack, or bilal who could have used his height more. dont understand the thinking behind that tbh.

 

[Cric1234]

I hope Azhar Ali flops hard

He knows that he is finished but shamelessly carrying on. I'm afraid Saud might go to USA.

Unfortunately Azhar won’t open to allow another middle order batsman the way Hafeez and Malik have continued in limited similar things will happen in tests with Azhar while Saud is likely to thrown in the deep end overseas in SENA with no experience.

Haider should also be considered for tests to develop his game not full time just yet times up for Umar Akmal looks like who could’ve been the best test batsman in the last 5 years.

 

[Hamza6799]

Imagine being Kamran Ghulam and seeing this squad after having the highest scoring first class season ever in Pakistan and then missing out to the kid that’s played 3 first class games but that’s what will always happen in Pakistan once a new youngster beauty catches the selectors eye

 

[globalcitizen]

Why does pakistan keep playing 4 players above 35 years of age? Is there a dearth of talent in pakistan?

 

[PakEngFan]

Imagine being Kamran Ghulam and seeing this squad after having the highest scoring first class season ever in Pakistan and then missing out to the kid that’s played 3 first class games but that’s what will always happen in Pakistan once a new youngster beauty catches the selectors eye

Kamran Ghulam is not an opener. I like him but if you have seen both play Abdullah Shafique looks far better then him.

 

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Bangladesh captain Mominul Haque urged his team-mates to ignore criticism and concentrate on the job at hand ahead of the Test series at home against Pakistan beginning on Friday.

The hosts kick off the new Test Championship cycle with the two-match series against Pakistan starting in Chittagong, having never beaten the visitors either at home or away.

The series follows a dismal run in Twenty20 internationals, with Bangladesh losing eight consecutive matches. Five losses at the World Cup were followed by a three-nil whitewash at home by semi-finalists Pakistan.

This is not the first time Bangladesh have gone through such a phase. We have overcome such times before too," said Test captain Mominul, who was not part of Twenty20 side.

"People got mentally weak... because they pay attention to what is being said. My job is to bring back focus. You cannot stop anyone from talking. So it's better to keep your ears closed," he said on Thursday.

Adding to their woes, star player Shakib Al Hasan, batsman Tamim Iqbal and an in-form all-rounder Taskin Ahmed, will all miss the first Test due to injury.

 

[moghul]

I hope Azhar Ali flops hard

He knows that he is finished but shamelessly carrying on. I'm afraid Saud might go to USA.

I also hope Azhar fails badly , if he scores 30-40 runs , that would be good enough for these pinhead selectors to keep him till his son makes his debut with him in the team. Unfortunately this trend is going on since Misbah days , very old and useless players fail against good bowling and scores some runs against minnows and keep blocking young players with while enjoying paid vacation with cricket team.

 

[moghul]

Anyone knows how to watch this in USA, Willow TV is not showing this series.

 

[PakEngFan]

what has sajid khan done to get the nod? looked pretty innocuous against zim, and hasnt really done anything in domestic either, didnt get selected for Pak A, and if theres one type of bowling bang are comfortable against its orthodox spin.

strange selection, zahid would have been a bit of a gamble but could have been something different in a 5 man attack, or bilal who could have used his height more. dont understand the thinking behind that tbh.

Agreed Sajid Khan doesn’t look international material at all. Looked very average against Zimbabwe.

 

[PakEngFan]

I also hope Azhar fails badly , if he scores 30-40 runs , that would be good enough for these pinhead selectors to keep him till his son makes his debut with him in the team. Unfortunately this trend is going on since Misbah days , very old and useless players fail against good bowling and scores some runs against minnows and keep blocking young players with while enjoying paid vacation with cricket team.

30 or 40 runs? For seniors like Azhar even 10 runs per match is enough to keep his place.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Anyone knows how to watch this in USA, Willow TV is not showing this series.

Certainly. Try Rabbitholebd on YouTube.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Too much overconfidence from Pakistani posters.

To me this match is a potential banana skin, particularly if the wicket is a dust bowl. It neutralizes skill and long scores and makes it a lottery.

We have already seen our best batters struggle on these pitches.

I think positive cricket is the only way. Too much caution as Pakistanis are prone to do will be their undoing.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Too much overconfidence from Pakistani posters.

To me this match is a potential banana skin, particularly if the wicket is a dust bowl. It neutralizes skill and long scores and makes it a lottery.

We have already seen our best batters struggle on these pitches.

I think positive cricket is the only way. Too much caution as Pakistanis are prone to do will be their undoing.

Wow overdramatic much. Pakistan's test team is probably the strongest of all the 3 formats. Sometimes people are too hard on a team.

Pakistan has so many strengths going into this test series it's unbelievable, you guys are too pessimistic on here.

The only thing i've not liked is the lack of prep going into this 1st test.

 

[shujaatraza]

So Abdullah Shafiq resumes his duty as a water boy.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Yeah this is why I expected Imam to play after being selected on the squad. He's in hot form in domestic.

Biggest issue is Azhar continuously occupying a spot when a younger and better player in Saud is much more deserving of it. They might get by in sub-continent condition but this is why they're such a poor side in SENA conditions.

 

[Kianig89]

Time to mount loads of runs and bolster your average daddy hundreds
Anyone

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Time to mount loads of runs and bolster your average daddy hundreds
Anyone

We'll see when they come out to bat. Don't be sure that this will be a batting paradise all the way through.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Wow overdramatic much. Pakistan's test team is probably the strongest of all the 3 formats. Sometimes people are too hard on a team.

Pakistan has so many strengths going into this test series it's unbelievable, you guys are too pessimistic on here.

The only thing i've not liked is the lack of prep going into this 1st test.

Hmmm shall we talk facts for a change? For lack of any better statistical reference, let's go with ICC rankings and test record.

1. Pakistan is 5th in test rankings which is pretty poor
2. Pakistan is 3rd in T20 rankings, which means that is statistically the strongest format for Pakistan, not tests
3. Pakistan has lost 5 of their last 6 overseas test series (Zimbabwe being the only win), and has even lost home series against New Zealand.

This does not sound like a very good team to me. It seems Pakistan is 5th only because apart from the teams above them, every other team is in even worse condition.

So I don't know about overdramatic but if we were to go with opinions rather than facts, then everyone loudest on PP is a winner.

Even taking into account Bangladesh's team's weak position, my point was that a dust bowl evens out things a lot (ever seen Babar play spin?) and knowing Pakistan's notorious collapses, anything can happen. Pakistan should win but this is a banana skin.

 

[Vocare Ad Regnum]

Seeing the kind of pitches they offered in t20s I am quite sure they will dish out proper bunsen burner.
Actually that's the only way they can beat Pakistan.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Hmmm shall we talk facts for a change? For lack of any better statistical reference, let's go with ICC rankings and test record.

1. Pakistan is 5th in test rankings which is pretty poor
2. Pakistan is 3rd in T20 rankings, which means that is statistically the strongest format for Pakistan, not tests
3. Pakistan has lost 5 of their last 6 overseas test series (Zimbabwe being the only win), and has even lost home series against New Zealand.

This does not sound like a very good team to me. It seems Pakistan is 5th only because apart from the teams above them, every other team is in even worse condition.

So I don't know about overdramatic but if we were to go with opinions rather than facts, then everyone loudest on PP is a winner.

Even taking into account Bangladesh's team's weak position, my point was that a dust bowl evens out things a lot (ever seen Babar play spin?) and knowing Pakistan's notorious collapses, anything can happen. Pakistan should win but this is a banana skin.

All in all Pakistan have done well this year and inshAllah are a shoe in for the test championship. We have to give credit where it is due, NZ played really well on their home conditions and that Kyle Jamieson is a test monster.

The same thing happens to SENA countries when they visit us as well, they take a beating.

 

[shamaan]

I think Abdullah Shafique will play the first test.

 

[shamaan]

I hope azhar fails that's the only way Saud Shakeel will get a chance to bat at 3

 

[Extreme Pace]

1. Imam-ul-Haq
2. Abdullah Shafique
3. Azhar Ali
4. Babar Azam (c)
5. Fawad Alam
6. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Sajid Khan
9. Hasan Ali
10. Nauman Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi

 

[moghul]

All in all Pakistan have done well this year and inshAllah are a shoe in for the test championship. We have to give credit where it is due, NZ played really well on their home conditions and that Kyle Jamieson is a test monster.

The same thing happens to SENA countries when they visit us as well, they take a beating.

This kind of mindset is expected from a minnow nation's cricket follower, loss in NZL was a shame , particularly the way Azhar, Abid , Butt and that useless chronically unfit guy Harris Soahil batted. NZL was a good side not something like WI of 80s. , we should have beaten them , no credit is losing badly there.

 

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Bangladesh now have five pacers in the 18-man squad for the first Test in Ebadat, Rahi, Raja, Khaled and Shahidul

Pace bowlers Khaled Ahmed and Shahidul Islam have been included in the Bangladesh squad for the first Test against Pakistan which starts Friday in Chittagong.

“We have a few injury concerns with the pacers. Taskin (Ahmed) and Shariful (Islam) are not available for this Test and we needed cover for the other seamers. Khaled and Shahidul are both fit and ready,” chairman of the national selection panel Minhajul Abedin said to the media.

Bangladesh now have five pacers in the 18-man squad for the first Test in Ebadat Hossain Chowdhury, Abu Jayed Chowdhury Rahi, Rejaur Rahman Raja, Khaled and Shahidul.

Bangladesh squad for first Test

Mominul Haque (Captain), Shadman Islam, Saif Hasan, Nazmul Hossain Shanto, Mushfiqur Rahim, Liton Das, Nurul Hasan, Mehedi Hasan Miraz, Nayeem Hasan, Taijul Islam, Ebadat Hossain, Abu Jayed Chowdhury Rahi, Yasir Ali Rabbi, Mahmudul Hasan Joy, Rejaur Rahman Raja, Shakib al Hasan (subject to being declared fit to play)

https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/2021/11/25/pacers-khaled-shahidul-added-to-tigers-test-squad

 

[Shoaibbtt]

This kind of mindset is expected from a minnow nation's cricket follower, loss in NZL was a shame , particularly the way Azhar, Abid , Butt and that useless chronically unfit guy Harris Soahil batted. NZL was a good side not something like WI of 80s. , we should have beaten them , no credit is losing badly there.

Pak tried their best, this test team is gonna turn it around. You don't like it don't watch

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Don't like how Imam gets to bypass Abdullah Shafique now. I was a big critic of Abdullah when he was in the squad before. But he performed quite well in Shaheens tour of SL. Should be his turn to get the debut rather than recalling Imam. Plus Imam being a leftie is bound to fall to Mehidy.

I have a feeling Sajid might do well on this tour. Probably his first association with Saqlain.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

This kind of mindset is expected from a minnow nation's cricket follower, loss in NZL was a shame , particularly the way Azhar, Abid , Butt and that useless chronically unfit guy Harris Soahil batted. NZL was a good side not something like WI of 80s. , we should have beaten them , no credit is losing badly there.

Imran Butt didn't play in NZ series. Abid and Shan were the openers for that series. NZ has been a strong test side at home. Even India has been unable to beat them there. Only SA and Aus have beaten them there in last 7-8 years.

 

[moghul]

Imran Butt didn't play in NZ series. Abid and Shan were the openers for that series. NZ has been a strong test side at home. Even India has been unable to beat them there. Only SA and Aus have beaten them there in last 7-8 years.

Our previous teams used to beat NZL all the time, if this team is weak , then why to praise them. " good fight: is good enough for teams like BD, Zimb and Ireland, not for Pakistan .

 

[Nasty Naz]

Our previous teams used to beat NZL all the time, if this team is weak , then why to praise them. " good fight: is good enough for teams like BD, Zimb and Ireland, not for Pakistan .

Clearly NZ of the past is not the NZ of now. They're a powerhouse and a great well rounded team across the formats. Golden era under an incredible captain.

 

[moghul]

Clearly NZ of the past is not the NZ of now. They're a powerhouse and a great well rounded team across the formats. Golden era under an incredible captain.

There is nothing so special about this NZL team , other than Williamson and to some extend Boult there is no world class player they have. "power house " teams don;t concede 258/4 to a inexperienced Indian team like they did at Kanpur . Looks like you has just started watching cricket, will learn with time,