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Best of 5 in ODIs and 3 in T20Is.

In Pakistan (yes, I would like BD to tour. Pak fans are too much but I wish the country the best) and in Bangladesh.

ODIs:

We would win 4-1 in BD and 3-2 in Pakistan.

T20Is:

2-1 either way.
 
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Haha.

Pakistan would win 5-0 in ODIs outside the subcontinent and 4-1 in the subcontinent except Bangladesh where we would win 3-2. T20s we will win 2-1 or 3-0 anywhere
 
Haha.

Pakistan would win 5-0 in ODIs outside the subcontinent and 4-1 in the subcontinent except Bangladesh where we would win 3-2. T20s we will win 2-1 or 3-0 anywhere

Outside the SC wasnt mentioned. In Pk and in BD were the conditions stipulated.
 
Bd 5-0 in odis
Bd 3-0 in t20s
Only rain can save pakistan otherwise i don.t think we have any chance
Thanks to Pcb to saving us from Bangla storm
 
Best of 5 in ODIs and 3 in T20Is.

In Pakistan (yes, I would like BD to tour. Pak fans are too much but I wish the country the best) and in Bangladesh.

ODIs:

We would win 4-1 in BD and 3-2 in Pakistan.

T20Is:

2-1 either way.

You would beat PAK in PAK? :yk

The ODI team just won CT 2017. BANG would likely lose 5-0 in PAK.
 
Pakistan would beat BD comfortably. In Bangladesh however, Id expect BD to compete better and perhaps even win.
 
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Pakistan just won the Champion's Trophy and Bangladesh are even ranked below Afghanistan in T20. The delusion of some BD fans is amazing. It will be a total one-sided affair wherever the two sides meet.
 
Perera is single-handedly mauling Pakistan again and yet you talk of mauling Bangladesh!

Bangladesh who? You can only dream of beating this current Pakistan team who the the Champions Trophy. First win a icc trophy then come for a challenge
 
Bangladesh who? You can only dream of beating this current Pakistan team who the the Champions Trophy. First win a icc trophy then come for a challenge

What logic is that? Saffers havent won a cup but they'd hammer Pakistan.
 
So Pakistan is good enough to win the CT but not good enough to beat Bangladesh even at home? Sounds legit.
 
What logic is that? Pakistan just beat Saffers in the Champions Trophy. Wake up and stop living in La La Land.

Pakistan also beat India, Australia and England. But if a series was held right now, Pakistan would lose to all of them.
 
The fact this thread even exists shows the improvements Bangla cricket has made.

But sometimes Bangla fans are very delusional, they need to learn to respect the opposition and be realistic.

Bangladesh would not maul Pakistan. In Bangladesh, the series would be somewhat competitive, but outside I would think Pakistan would win comfortably.
 
Pakistan also beat India, Australia and England. But if a series was held right now, Pakistan would lose to all of them.

Why would they. Pakistan team is going upwards and has improved as we saw in Champions Trophy.
Series at home Pakistan would beat them all, maybe against India they wouldn't I reckon. But rest this Pakistan team with Amir in it would beat the rest in a series at home.
 
Pakistan fans seem to underestimating Bangladesh a lot. I think it'll much closer than most of you think becuase theres a still a very real chance than Bangladesh could win the series because they know how to bat to modern one day standards much better than us.
 
Pakistan fans seem to underestimating Bangladesh a lot. I think it'll much closer than most of you think becuase theres a still a very real chance than Bangladesh could win the series because they know how to bat to modern one day standards much better than us.

So can we. We have improved under Mickey. And Bangla would struggle against our bowlers just like the big guns struggled in Champions Trophy against our bowlers. Amir and Hasan Ali would rip through Bangla boys.
 
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What are your opinions on this?
 
Pakistan also beat India, Australia and England. But if a series was held right now, Pakistan would lose to all of them.

Says who? This is a new team.... fearless. This team didn't just win, the won comfortably
 
Pakistan fans seem to underestimating Bangladesh a lot. I think it'll much closer than most of you think becuase theres a still a very real chance than Bangladesh could win the series because they know how to bat to modern one day standards much better than us.

In PAK?

I doubt it.

They'd get put away.
 
I'm sorry but Pakistan havent suddenly become a great ODI side. Yes, they won the CT (well done) but they remain beatable and have holes in their game like they suffer from mange. No power hitters, poor spinners, slow batsman not attuned to the modern game and poor fielding.

Bangladesh have only Amir to concern themselves with. Fizz balances that out.
 
I'm sorry but Pakistan havent suddenly become a great ODI side. Yes, they won the CT (well done) but they remain beatable and have holes in their game like they suffer from mange. No power hitters, poor spinners, slow batsman not attuned to the modern game and poor fielding.

Bangladesh have only Amir to concern themselves with. Fizz balances that out.

Amir, Hasan and Junaid are individually better than any bowler BD have ever produced in their history, and collectively tou Allah tauba.

BD do not have a single batsman of the class of Babar or the aggression of Fakhar or the composure of Malik. There is a reason why you do not have a single ICC trophy or even a trophy final.
 
I'm sorry but Pakistan havent suddenly become a great ODI side. Yes, they won the CT (well done) but they remain beatable and have holes in their game like they suffer from mange. No power hitters, poor spinners, slow batsman not attuned to the modern game and poor fielding.

Bangladesh have only Amir to concern themselves with. Fizz balances that out.

Yes and Bangladesh all of sudden has become a great unbeatable ODI team.
Pakistan showed it with their performances in the Champions Trophy how good they are. Only haters and burning fans like you can't admit. Keep burning burning burning!!!
 
Amir, Hasan and Junaid are individually better than any bowler BD have ever produced in their history, and collectively tou Allah tauba.

BD do not have a single batsman of the class of Babar or the aggression of Fakhar or the composure of Malik. There is a reason why you do not have a single ICC trophy or even a trophy final.

I would back Shehzad to single-handedly thrash the Bangla bowlers and get a 100 in a T20 like he has before against them :-)
 
Amir, Hasan and Junaid are individually better than any bowler BD have ever produced in their history, and collectively tou Allah tauba.

BD do not have a single batsman of the class of Babar or the aggression of Fakhar or the composure of Malik. There is a reason why you do not have a single ICC trophy or even a trophy final.

Tamim is better than any of Pakistan's ODI batsmen.
 
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What are your opinions on this?

Given the series is in a neutral turf
3-2 either way in ODIs

2-1 for Pakistan in T20Is

Bangladesh are quite a decent side in ODIs. I don't think there is much of a difference between the two teams. I know Pakistan have won the CT where they had 3 good matches on the trot and that gives an added confidence boost.

In T20Is Bangladesh have improved but still a good gap between Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Regardless it would be an interesting series.

Btw if Bangladesh play in UAE we would likely to lose at first because we never played in the UAE or Pakistan for that matter whereas Pakistani cricketers have grown up playing in Bangladesh, heck more top level matches in Bangladesh than their own country. After we get adjusted to the conditions I think we would be competitive. That's my honest opinion.

A lot of fans saying Bangladesh has no chance need to have a reality check as well. But then again we are in a Pakistan cricket forum. Better to seek opinion of neutrals.
 
:))

Man for man our ODI team is miles better.
Lets do it then:
1. Fakhar<Tamim

2. Azhar< Sarkar
3. Babar>Sabbir
4. Malik>Mahmoudullah (as of most recent stats)
5. Hafeez<Shakib
6. Sarfaraz>Mushfiqur
7. Shadab>Mossadek
8. Imad>Mashrafe
9. Hasan>Taskin
10. Junaid>Rubel
11. Amir> Fizz

Only thing debatable is Imad-Mashrafe and Malik-Mahmudullah.
 
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Given the series is in a neutral turf
3-2 either way in ODIs

2-1 for Pakistan in T20Is

Bangladesh are quite a decent side in ODIs. I don't think there is much of a difference between the two teams. I know Pakistan have won the CT where they had 3 good matches on the trot and that gives an added confidence boost.

In T20Is Bangladesh have improved but still a good gap between Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Regardless it would be an interesting series.

Btw if Bangladesh play in UAE we would likely to lose at first because we never played in the UAE or Pakistan for that matter whereas Pakistani cricketers have grown up playing in Bangladesh, heck more top level matches in Bangladesh than their own country. After we get adjusted to the conditions I think we would be competitive. That's my honest opinion.

A lot of fans saying Bangladesh has no chance need to have a reality check as well. But then again we are in a Pakistan cricket forum. Better to seek opinion of neutrals.

And the Bangla fan who made this thread gave Pakistan no chance so evens it out
 
Tamim is better than any of Pakistan's ODI batsmen.

I would not say the same

Tamim in the last 3 years averaged 56+ scoring against top sides. Babar mostly piled up his runs against West Indies but at a good strike rate which Tamim didn't

But Tamim is at his peak. Babar is young. Babar outperformed Tamim when he was a youth
 
Azam is the 5th best ODI batsman in the world.

Tamim is 16th.

Hafeez is 20th.

According to the rankings, Warner is a better ODI batsman than AB, and Bumrah is the 4th best ODI bowler in the world while Amir is nowhere to be found. Why are people so quick to dismiss rankings when it involves Amir?

Tamim has scored against Australia, England, India and Pakistan. Babar has mostly just scored against WI.
 
And the Bangla fan who made this thread gave Pakistan no chance so evens it out

There will be delusional fans on either side.

The same guy said Fizz was poor but just this month he was excellent against Australia with the ball on placcid tracks for pacemen
 
In t20s a full strength Pakistan would trounce bangladesh 3 -0 .
In Odi's pakistan will win 4 -0 . One match will be rained out .
Pakistan 's young talent is too good .
Forget hasan and amir . Raees is possibily a better limited overs bowler than fizz.
 
Lets do it then:
1. Fakhar<Tamim

2. Azhar< Sarkar
3. Babar>Sabbir
4. Malik>Mahmoudullah (as of most recent stats)
5. Hafeez<Shakib
6. Sarfaraz>Mushfiqur
7. Shadab>Mossadek
8. Imad>Mashrafe
9. Hasan>Taskin
10. Junaid>Rubel
11. Amir> Fizz

Only thing debatable is Imad-Mashrafe and Malik-Mahmudullah.

How can you compare Shadab with Mosaddek. Mosaddek is a batsman Shadab is a bowling allrounder. And Mashrafe is a specialist bowler. Imad an allrounder.

Btw I dont agree about Sarfaraz >> Mushy. I think mushfiq has been excellent in the last 5 years.

As for Fizz vs Amir it's debatable because before CT Fizz was performing better while Amir did struggle. No doubts Amir bowled better in CT and performance in CT has greater weightage than JAMODI. Let's see what happens.
 
According to the rankings, Warner is a better ODI batsman than AB, and Bumrah is the 4th best ODI bowler in the world while Amir is nowhere to be found. Why are people so quick to dismiss rankings when it involves Amir?

Tamim has scored against Australia, England, India and Pakistan. Babar has mostly just scored against WI.
Sample size for Babar Azam is too small. Even then, come back and talk when Tamim Iqbal has a century against Starc and Hazlewood in Australia.

/end discussion basically.
 
So can we. We have improved under Mickey. And Bangla would struggle against our bowlers just like the big guns struggled in Champions Trophy against our bowlers. Amir and Hasan Ali would rip through Bangla boys.

In PAK?

I doubt it.

They'd get put away.

Yeah I get what you guys mean but our batting is still a bit weak even though we have given a few good performance over the last few innings.
 
It will be a comfortable 4-1 victory in a ODI, 2-1 in a T20. Even an year back i am sure Pak would have won 3-2 and 2-1..
 
Sample size for Babar Azam is too small. Even then, come back and talk when Tamim Iqbal has a century against Starc and Hazlewood in Australia.

/end discussion basically.

Tamim scored 96 in Champions trophy against Aus. Not too bad eh?
 
Lol! Pakistan has recently won CT 17 and Bangladesh wouldnt have even qualified for SF if it wasnt for rain.

Bangladesh is a good ODI outfit but still not be a problem for Pakistan to beat them with the current lot of players.

In T20s Bangladesh is pretty poor to be honest as they are yet to create any sort of impact in this fromat.
 
Best of 5 in ODIs and 3 in T20Is.

In Pakistan (yes, I would like BD to tour. Pak fans are too much but I wish the country the best) and in Bangladesh.

ODIs:

We would win 4-1 in BD and 3-2 in Pakistan.

T20Is:

2-1 either way.

What happened to your legendary players in CT 17? Bangladesh should have won it considering how highly you rate BD.
 
There is a difference between scoring a century in Aus vs Starc and Hazlewood than in England.

Tbh Australian pitches have been really flat. Actually ODI pitches around the world are pretty much the same. Absolute roads.
 
Given the series is in a neutral turf
3-2 either way in ODIs

2-1 for Pakistan in T20Is

Bangladesh are quite a decent side in ODIs. I don't think there is much of a difference between the two teams. I know Pakistan have won the CT where they had 3 good matches on the trot and that gives an added confidence boost.

In T20Is Bangladesh have improved but still a good gap between Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Regardless it would be an interesting series.

Btw if Bangladesh play in UAE we would likely to lose at first because we never played in the UAE or Pakistan for that matter whereas Pakistani cricketers have grown up playing in Bangladesh, heck more top level matches in Bangladesh than their own country. After we get adjusted to the conditions I think we would be competitive. That's my honest opinion.

A lot of fans saying Bangladesh has no chance need to have a reality check as well. But then again we are in a Pakistan cricket forum. Better to seek opinion of neutrals.

Fair enough.

In my opinion, Pakistan also has it's weaknesses which need to be addressed. Sarfraz needs to be proactive and introduce some power hitters in the team and promote them up the order according to situation. He had great chance to try some power hitters like Yamin and Faheem in this series but he did not take that risk. He also does not want to come up the order and considers himself as a lower order batsman which he isn't. Sarfraz is tactically good but his team selection has left a lot to be desired. Apart from inclusion of power hitters, Pakistan also needs to get rid of Hafeez in ODIs.

For now, in subcontinent, it should be a very good and competitive series.
 
Tbh Australian pitches have been really flat. Actually ODI pitches around the world are pretty much the same. Absolute roads.

Still home atmoshpere and home conditions do play a role no matter how flat the wicket is.
 
According to the rankings, Warner is a better ODI batsman than AB, and Bumrah is the 4th best ODI bowler in the world while Amir is nowhere to be found. Why are people so quick to dismiss rankings when it involves Amir?

Tamim has scored against Australia, England, India and Pakistan. Babar has mostly just scored against WI.

Babar has only failed to score big in England. He has scored vs Australia in Australia, vs New Zealand in New Zealand, vs West Indies in West Indies and UAE, vs Zimbabwe and World XI in Pakistan. He was also doing well against South Africa and England in Champions trophy remaining not out and finished the match. He played an important innings against India in Champions Trophy final too.
 
Best of 5 in ODIs and 3 in T20Is.

In Pakistan (yes, I would like BD to tour. Pak fans are too much but I wish the country the best) and in Bangladesh.

ODIs:

We would win 4-1 in BD and 3-2 in Pakistan.

T20Is:

2-1 either way.

The series would be competitive, but Pakistan will have a marginal edge over Bangladesh. 3-2 for Pakistan in neutral conditions.
 
50-50 ODI
60-40 in t20 (in favor of PAK)
70-30 in test (in favor of pak)
 
Pakistan will win 5-0 in Pakistan and maybe 4-1 in Bangladesh in ODIs.

Pakistan will win 3-0 anywhere in the world in T20Is.
 
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In pakistan pak will win 4-1. In BD 3-2 for BD/pk . T-20 anyone can win wherever they are.
 
In Pakistan or UAE 4-1 for Pak. In BD probably 3-2 for PAk. BD has improved over the years but Pak is a very good side now, top notch.
 
Bd 5-0 in odis
Bd 3-0 in t20s
Only rain can save pakistan otherwise i don.t think we have any chance
Thanks to Pcb to saving us from Bangla storm

Absolute drivel.

It was Pakistan who won the CT and the team they beat in the final was the same team who hammered Bangladesh in the semis.

Whether it be batting, bowling, fielding. There is no dept where Bangladesh holds superior ground to Pak.
 
Tamim is better than any of Pakistan's ODI batsmen.

Good joke. Only a stats bully would say so. Babar and Fakhar Zaman are match winners.

Ironic after the latter's hundred against your team that you would have the nerve to take an indirect swipe at him by claiming Tamim is better lol lol lol
 
Absolute drivel.

It was Pakistan who won the CT and the team they beat in the final was the same team who hammered Bangladesh in the semis.

Whether it be batting, bowling, fielding. There is no dept where Bangladesh holds superior ground to Pak.

It seems you have difficulty understanding sarcasm.

Good joke. Only a stats bully would say so. Babar and Fakhar Zaman are match winners.

Ironic after the latter's hundred against your team that you would have the nerve to take an indirect swipe at him by claiming Tamim is better lol lol lol

I am not as shortsighted as you. Tamim has been performing from a long time. Fakhar has a long way to go.

No, it is not ironic. Feel free not to quote me if you guys have nothing to talk about except that match from 3 months ago.
 
How is this even a question? Pakistan win every day of the week.
 
Pak would beat bangla but don't think would be as easy in Bangladesh. However Tamim and shakib and mushi are better than *MOST* Pak batsman. The sample Size to compare them to fakhar and babar Is too small ATM IMO. Huge respect for tamim and shakib big fan of theirs. Too much bias at times on this forum between most India, Pak and Bangla fans towards the respected teams.
 
ODI 3-2 either side.
T20I 3-0 to Pak.

We have better ODI side than Pak. Our T20 team were and are rubbish ever since.
 
rofl pak would whitewash bangla easily. This thread should be india vs pakistan, dont know why OP is bringing some minnows
 
Bangladesh to win 5 - 0 in BD and 3 - 2 in UAE.

Don't care about T20s.
 
Ah BD fans, after being thrashed in the CT, back to their delusional selves. Good to see!
 
Some Pak posters now has only CT to say something after being in minnow league for 2-3 years.
 
Pakistan.

Still don't really rate Bangladesh, seems like they haven't done much since their consecutive home series wins in 2015.
 
The delusion is real I see :)) :))

You know I was really have a stressful day and then I opened this thread.....Thanks for the comic relief guys !! Awesome stuff !!
 
Pakistan's Limited Side is much more settled than it looks. We have (an inexperienced) but gutsy top order, a couple of world class pacers and a brave leggie. Team still got a long way to go. But it would give fight to any opposition.

So I'd say Pak should win vs BD both in ODIs(4-1) and T20Is(3-0).
 
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We would win both easily

15 months ago I would have said Bangladesh in ODIs and Pak in t20s

right now its a cakewalk for Pak
 
Lol at bangla fans who think they would beat Pakistan. Bangladesh vs Afghanistan would be a more closely fought series
 
In Pakistan, it would be comfortable victories for Pakistan in both ODI and T20I series
In a neutral place, it would be closer but Pakistan would probably still edge it.
In Bangladesh, it will be neck and neck. Would be extremely close but if it was to be played right now I would still say Pakistan only as we are on a high right now following CT victory
 
Reply to posters who are referring Pakistan cricket team as minnows:

Bangladesh has been a minnow in cricket since it has started playing.

From the last 2 years it has started winning only in their land, but could never earn respect because of it saddistic fans.
 
If someone asked me this 1 year ago I'd say it would be very close, but now I would say Pakistan most of the time in both formats.
 
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What are your opinions on this?

I think, as an ODI team we are very good batting unit, and decent attack on favourable conditions with restrictive spinners. In ODI, PAK attack is actually very good & penetrative for most conditions - except UAE, PAK & BD. But, in batting, still it's little behind & both teams are probably just above associate level in terms of fielding - that's after massive improvement by PAK & BD in fielding for last one year or so. Both Mash & Sarfraz are good leaders - Mash is a better commanding man manager, while Sarfraz is better player overall.

In that regard. I think in a 5 match series, it'll be really tough for us to match PAK's attack outside Asia - so it's 5-0 or 4-1 for PAK anywhere in AUS, SAF, NZ, UK, ZIM.

In Asia, to PCB's credit or discredit, I keep it up to you - Indian conditions are best for a team like PAK - absolute batting belters with lightning fast outfield but the wickets have even bounce, pace & carry - good for free stroke makers, great for bowlers with pace & skills, outstanding for spinners who can flight it with variations - in short 180 degree apart from the dross you have seen at Gaddafi - and to PCB's credit that PCA ground at Mohali is a dream home venue for PAK attack - less than 100 miles away from Lahore - same climate, weather, soil .. but obviously ploughing with cow & tractor should yield different output. Not only BD, I do believe India will also struggle against PAK at home. Almost certainly 5-0 between PAK - BD in most Indian venues.

In SRL, I'll keep it close, but probably 3-2 PAK, because SRL wickets has duel character - Pallekele, SSC & Kandy provides support to pacers while Premadasha & Gale condition should favour our team. Similar case is probably WI - some wickets are real sluggish, but there are 350+ wickets as well.

In UAE, and PAK again it'll be close, but I'll keep BD slightly ahead - reason being those semi ploughed mudbed, they call wicket should support our darters & our batsmen should enjoy pace of PAK bowlers - in general the faster you bowl, the faster you reach to fence on those wickets. I don't see PAK batsmen mauvering much 40+ overs of darting from Sakib, Taijul, Mustafiz, Nasir, Miraj, ........... 3-2 for us.

At home, BD is totally different team - confident & dominating. It should be a clear margin 4-1, at best 5-0, at worst 3-2; but BD will win the series.

We are not the best T20 side therefore everywhere PAK should be favourite. But, I back us to win few matches in UAE & PAK, on wickets where 140 is par score. BD batsmen are not the best hitters, but quite skilful in maneuvering strike - on sluggish wicket PAK will struggle to beat us even in T20s, for the batting & those type of wickets should normalize the gap between Amir/Hasan & Mustafiz/Sakib.

But, this is in general probably true for most teams - PAK won CT in U.K.; in olden times won a WC in AUS, made a final in U.K., won a T20 WC theee & made another final in SAF - but I don't see them winning much in UAE or in PAK. Those wickets are just not where PAK team should play on & that ODI ranking will again hit 8/9 if there are lots of "home" matches for PAK. This is an unique exception in history of probably every sport - when "home" game becomes a curse for you.
 
Let's get some perspective.

Bangladesh beat Pakistan in an ODI series 2 years ago when we had just appo Bt Azhar Ali as captain.
How many ODI's have they beaten Pakistan in before and after that series?

Coming to Bangladesh's present form, how many games have they won away from home and gainer which teams?

All this stuff about Bangladesh now ruling the roost at home, well this is the case for every international team..
Bangladesh makes slow bunsin burners where teams like England and Australia struggle. But what about India and Pakistan? I'd like to see them beat these two teams home and away before we discuss whose better or not.

History and a knowledge of cricket would tell you that Pakistan (and India) would hammer Bangladesh barring the odd fluke here and there.
 
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