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Can Babar Azam become the first ever batsman to be ranked #1 in all 3 formats at the same time?

Can Babar Azam become the first ever batsman to be ranked #1 in all 3 formats at the same time?


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Currently he’s
#1 in T20Is
#1 in ODIs
#3 in Tests (just 11 pts away from #2 Marnus Labuschagne and less than 50 pts away from #1 Joe Root)


He has 7 not so difficult tests (5 home tests, 3 vs ENG & 2 vs NZ and 2 away tests against SL) in next 12 months

If he does reach #1 in tests (and keeps his odi and t20i ranking), he’ll be the first ever batsman to do so in the history of cricket


But Joe Root seems to be in a tremendous form, especially after giving up his captaincy. Marnus is Marnus. Apart from these two, Pant is playing really good cricket (#5) and Baitstow seems to be out of this world (#10)
 
Currently he’s
#1 in T20Is
#1 in ODIs
#3 in Tests (just 11 pts away from #2 Marnus Labuschagne and less than 50 pts away from #1 Joe Root)


He has 7 not so difficult tests (5 home tests, 3 vs ENG & 2 vs NZ and 2 away tests against SL) in next 12 months

If he does reach #1 in tests (and keeps his odi and t20i ranking), he’ll be the first ever batsman to do so in the history of cricket


But Joe Root seems to be in a tremendous form, especially after giving up his captaincy. Marnus is Marnus. Apart from these two, Pant is playing really good cricket (#5) and Baitstow seems to be out of this world (#10)

He deserves credit for the Test ranking. It'd be difficult to ascend there further.

Other two rankings are deceptive. Most teams have played 2nd string teams/given rests to top players in the bilateral LOIs in the last few years, and when a player misses a game of his team, he loses his points.
 
He definitely can and I think he is already #1 in all formats regardless of what rankings say.
 
I think he can become number 2 however becoming number 1 will be hard espically with Root form.
 
He is the #1 batter in the world.

And yes, he can top the ICC rankings.

The only problem is that Pakistan do not play enough cricket (especially tests).
 
He has tomplay some really big innings to get there , but he has potential. If Root fails in some games , that will be bonus.
 
FYt-5W4WAAA66S6


Sixth score greater than fifty for Babar Azam from his last seven Test innings
 
In the second Test match against Sri Lanka, Babar Azam created yet another unique record for the history books as he became the first Pakistani captain to score more than 1,000 runs in each of the three formats.

Overall, Babar is now only the fifth captain ever to achieve this feat as MS Dhoni, Virat Kohli, Faf du Plessis, and Kane Williamson had already reached this milestone before him.

Babar reached the unique feat during the first innings of the second Test match against Sri Lanka as he scored 26 runs before being removed by spinner Jayasuriya.

Here's the complete list of runs scored by the five captains:

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Sure he can. Doesn't mean he will, but he can. People talking about tests here, as if Root will stick around forever. He's 4 years older than Azam and English players don't stick around for long.

In fact, it's T20Is where he might not be at the top, as he grows older. Almost every senior batsman start skipping T20Is once they turn 30, and Babar will do the same.

So there's little time left for Babar to reach there. He has the talent and skill to do it, but cricket also needs luck.
 
He has some other batters catching up on the rankings so needs to do this soon.
 
Jayawardena picks star player to dethrone Root as top Test batter

Sri Lanka legend Mahela Jayawardena has used the latest episode of The ICC Review to declare which batter he thinks is best placed to overtake England's Joe Root at the top of the MRF Tyres ICC Test Batting Rankings.

Joe Root has been ruling the roost at the top of the Test batter rankings since June this year, with the Englishman enjoying a fine World Test Championship, and in a rich vein of form under new coach Brendon McCullum.

The former England captain has scored more runs than any other player since the turn of the decade, and deservedly claimed the ICC Men's Test Player of the Year award in 2021.
But Jayawardena knows how many world class batters are lining up to usurp Root at the top of proceedings and has nominated Pakistan captain Babar Azam as the player most likely to claim the top ranking in the future.

When host Sanjana Ganesan put Jayawardena on the spot during the latest episode of The ICC Review, the Sri Lankan great tipped Babar to dethrone Root at the top of the Test Rankings.

"Tough one!" Jayawardena exclaimed. "I would say Babar Azam has an opportunity. He's been consistent in all three formats and it shows in his rankings. He's a naturally gifted player, plays in all conditions, he's got the game to adapt as well.

"It depends on the amount of cricket, who's playing when and how much but the Babar might be the guy."

Babar is the only player in the top three in the batters' rankings in all three formats, occupying the top spot in each of the white-ball formats and currently ranked No.3 in Tests.

With his recent rise on the Test charts, Babar has been vocal about being the undisputed No.1 in all formats of the game and Jayawardena said the Pakistan skipper is capable of achieving the difficult feat.

"T20Is and ODIs, it is tough one to hold on to because there are a lot of good players who have to be consistent," Jayawardena said.

"As long as he can be that, because he has a very good role to play in that Pakistan setup – they have batters to bat around him, so he can play his own game – he should be able to hold on to that and at the same time, push himself to get better.

"He batted really well in Sri Lanka. I think Prabath (Jayasuriya) was his nemesis – he got him three times out of the four innings. That was a very good battle to watch. Babar got a really good hundred in the first Test match.

"He's always going to push himself to get better. Seen in a couple of his interviews recently that it is his goal as well to be No.1 across the table. There's no harm in challenging yourself to get there.

"Being the captain as well, he has taken responsibility and performed, which is great to see. (It's) Not an easy thing to do.

"I would put my money on him at least for a little while to hold to all three but there are some good quality players around who will keep pushing him."

Jayawardena then went into detail when quizzed about what makes Babar such a special player, with the former Sri Lanka captain indicating he was most impressed by the amount of time the Pakistan skipper has while at the crease.

"(I) think it is just the technique, the time that he has and the composure that he has out there in the middle," Jayawardena said in praise of Babar.

"He's not rattled at any time, whether he plays T20Is, ODIs or Tests, he adjusts quite brilliantly.

"Joe (Root) in Test cricket is the same. He knows what he needs to do, he can the tempo when he wants to, bats to what the conditions offer. Babar has that same quality, so that's why he's been so consistent in all three formats."

The two stars will come face to face later this year when England tour Pakistan for a three-match Test series in December.

Root could further solidify his No.1 spot in the upcoming series against South Africa, while Babar will have to wait until the series against England later in the year to make a charge for the top.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2736936
 
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I don't understand these rankings. Babar just scored three successive 50's (albeit against NL) but he still loses a rating point in ODIs. I was hoping Babar crosses 900 after the series. Oh well. And also, I understand that SKY has been having an unbelievable time in T20s, but to get so close to Babar and overtake Rizwan after the stellar 2021 they had? So confusing.
 
Still a world-class batsman. Not being at the level of Buttlers/Hales in T20 format may not make him an average player. One-dayers are his perfect format. He just has to react to the ball for 30 to 40 overs. In Tests there are not a lot of world class batsman available. Some are fading away towards retirement. So Babar will have very little competition there. He just has to do barely enough there to stay at the top. So he has to challenge himself and produce stellar overseas performances
 
he can't field for his life. Dropped 2 catches of Stokes (yes dropped in my books) in the Final games or at the very least he could have saved that 4 runs of that 6.
 
he can't field for his life. Dropped 2 catches of Stokes (yes dropped in my books) in the Final games or at the very least he could have saved that 4 runs of that 6.

Ok but how is that connected with his rankings?
 
T20 ranking are useless .Babar is way behind in test format he needs to score big hundred and also meaningful inning in this format
 
"Feel Like You Can't Get Him Out...": Australia T20I Captain Aaron Finch In Awe Of This Pakistan Star

The 2022 T20 World Cup was not so special for hosts Australia as its cricket team failed to advance to the semi-finals of the mega-event. However, there were some brilliant performances from other teams. One side that made a brilliant comeback after a shaky start was the Babar Azam-led Pakistan. They started the tournament with two losses but then went on to finish as the runners-up after losing to England in the final. Though Babar Azam's personal form was not that great, his team impressed, particularly in the bowling department.

This was yet another validation of Pakistan team's rise under Babar. Though the Pakistan skipper did not have a good T20 World Cup with the bat, he had been doing really well prior to the mega-event. He rose to be among the top three in ICC rankings for batters in all three formats.

Australia's T20I skipper Aaron Finch is in awe of Babar's qualities. "He had been in my top three in all three formats," he was quoted as saying by Cricket Pakitan in a Fox Sports video . "You feel like you can't get him out, no matter what you do he's got an answer [with the bat]. He's great and an unbelievable player, he's just so classy, so classical when hits the ball where it needs to go. Someone who can dominate the game and almost feels like he's got you on a string at all times.

Marnus Labuschagne and Nathan Lyon agreed with Finch, while Maxwell said: "He's ultra-consistent in all three formats, classy, elegant, score runs everywhere."

NDTV
 
Ok but how is that connected with his rankings?

Pakistanis are not used to having a batsman who leads the world rankings so consistently. Therefore, this confuses them and they need to find some way to discredit him no matter if it makes sense or not.
 
Class is permanent. He has it. So yes, matter of time.
 
I'm more interested in the number of trophies he can bring home. And if he keeps bottling it like has recently, then that will stay at a big fat 0.
So far, we've lost the Asia Cup, the T20 22 and what could potentially have been last years world cup too. All cuase he can't stand up when it matters. Also has a bad habit of playing safe formula with Rizwan opening the batting.
 
No.

Mentally weak bottler.

5,5,1

These are the records of a mental beast in WC 15 SF, CT 17 final and WC 19 SF. Too bad he can't hide himself behind a pingpong t20 format in a match-losing cause.
 
I'm more interested in the number of trophies he can bring home. And if he keeps bottling it like has recently, then that will stay at a big fat 0.
So far, we've lost the Asia Cup, the T20 22 and what could potentially have been last years world cup too. All cuase he can't stand up when it matters. Also has a bad habit of playing safe formula with Rizwan opening the batting.

He was a fundamental part of our CT 17 campaign, undefeated against SA and ENG and 46 in the final and those 3 back to back fours to pandya were just gold. Super impressive by a 22-year old.
 
He was a fundamental part of our CT 17 campaign, undefeated against SA and ENG and 46 in the final and those 3 back to back fours to pandya were just gold. Super impressive by a 22-year old.

That was 5 years ago. 5 years on, he should have improved heaps and bounds. And 5 years down the line, he's regressed.
We won the CT due to Hassan Ali and the openers.
 
In Tests and ODIs, he can become no.1 together depending on his form and the form of other players around the world.

In T20s, he will be no.1 in my eyes only if he takes his strike rate to 135 or more because 128-129 is below normal standard for T20 cricket in 2022.
 
5,5,1

These are the records of a mental beast in WC 15 SF, CT 17 final and WC 19 SF. Too bad he can't hide himself behind a pingpong t20 format in a match-losing cause.

Kohli won CT with his match wining knock in CT Final.
35 runs in 2011 WC final, a decent knock and match winning partnership with Gambhir after initial collapse.
Kohli won two MOT's in T20 WC.
Kohli’s knock against Pakistan in the 2022 World Cup is one of the best T20 knock.

You better worry about Babar rather than Kohli. Guy already lost back-to-back t20 wc's by playing incredible SR 100 in KO's.
Asia cup performance is bonus.
 
Lol. It is not even as big as Babar's 53 in SF. A knock that couldn't do any damange to Pakistan is nothing significant.

Now that begs the question as to why Babar was able to score in only 1 match? Pretty simple, as he was playing in Sydney which is more or less like an asian picth with low bounce. He struggled in every other pitch in AUS. Both abbar and rizwan scored in that match as not only the pitch suited them but also the score of around 150 is perfect for them where they can play risk free cricket.

If you connot play on on all kinds of tracks then you cannot be considered as best. Babars s/r in this world cup was less than 100 and he didn't hit a single 6 in the entire tournament. This lack of 6 hitting capability is a huge drawback in t20 cricket.

This ranking system of ICC needs to be reconsidered as you dont find top players in top rankings because the method deducts points for every match a player has missed. Except Pak where it plays its 1st choice team even against ZIM, IRE and NED all other major countries rest their players against weaker teams. Kohli will lose 20-24 points for the 3 t20s he has missed in NZ which will now take his rankings lower. Same with Jos who missed 7 t20s vs Pak.
 
To tell u honestly
Babar has no place in T20.
He is playing just because he is captain.
Pakistan should make Shahdab as T20 captain and take some bold decisions like playing no player should be above 30,and batsman should maintain strike rate of 140 minimum.. automatically Babar,fakhar,Rizwan,ifti,asif,khushdil goes out and new batters make it to team..
The future of cricket is T20 and most energetic players should make it who play in only one gear even if they get bundled in 15 overs and be positive,agressive,and not play timid cricket as is being played by current lot of batters.My team for t20 shall be
Haider Ali
Huraira
Azam Khan(wk)
M.Harris
Talat Hussain
Shahdab
Hassan Ali/M.wasim jnr(as fast bowl arounders)
Zafar gohar
Shaheen
Rouf
Naseem
Reserves
Husnain
Sameen Gul
Basit Ali(U19)
 
To tell u honestly
Babar has no place in T20.
He is playing just because he is captain.
Pakistan should make Shahdab as T20 captain and take some bold decisions like playing no player should be above 30,and batsman should maintain strike rate of 140 minimum.. automatically Babar,fakhar,Rizwan,ifti,asif,khushdil goes out and new batters make it to team..
The future of cricket is T20 and most energetic players should make it who play in only one gear even if they get bundled in 15 overs and be positive,agressive,and not play timid cricket as is being played by current lot of batters.My team for t20 shall be
Haider Ali
Huraira
Azam Khan(wk)
M.Harris
Talat Hussain
Shahdab
Hassan Ali/M.wasim jnr(as fast bowl arounders)
Zafar gohar
Shaheen
Rouf
Naseem
Reserves
Husnain
Sameen Gul
Basit Ali(U19)

You contradict yourself saying players should strike 140 and then add hurraira and Hussain talat in the list. Talat is look busy do nothing player in t20. Huraiara needs to add meat. And doesn't look t20 material either. Haider is a Hack.
 
A pathetic FTB that can only perform well against second string bowling attacks on flat tracks! A statpadder and King of soft runs. He'll never be a true number 1 player in the world.
 
Now that begs the question as to why Babar was able to score in only 1 match? Pretty simple, as he was playing in Sydney which is more or less like an asian picth with low bounce. He struggled in every other pitch in AUS. Both abbar and rizwan scored in that match as not only the pitch suited them but also the score of around 150 is perfect for them where they can play risk free cricket.

If you connot play on on all kinds of tracks then you cannot be considered as best. Babars s/r in this world cup was less than 100 and he didn't hit a single 6 in the entire tournament. This lack of 6 hitting capability is a huge drawback in t20 cricket.

This ranking system of ICC needs to be reconsidered as you dont find top players in top rankings because the method deducts points for every match a player has missed. Except Pak where it plays its 1st choice team even against ZIM, IRE and NED all other major countries rest their players against weaker teams. Kohli will lose 20-24 points for the 3 t20s he has missed in NZ which will now take his rankings lower. Same with Jos who missed 7 t20s vs Pak.

Babar already has centuries in Adelaide and Brisbane and has scored so many runs in SA, England and NZ too. I don't think bounce is an issue for him as none of his dismisals this WC was due to bounce. It was just a case of poor focus/form.

Secondly, sure. Write a letter to ICC for their ranking system.
 
To tell u honestly
Babar has no place in T20.
He is playing just because he is captain.
Pakistan should make Shahdab as T20 captain and take some bold decisions like playing no player should be above 30,and batsman should maintain strike rate of 140 minimum.. automatically Babar,fakhar,Rizwan,ifti,asif,khushdil goes out and new batters make it to team..
The future of cricket is T20 and most energetic players should make it who play in only one gear even if they get bundled in 15 overs and be positive,agressive,and not play timid cricket as is being played by current lot of batters.My team for t20 shall be
Haider Ali
Huraira
Azam Khan(wk)
M.Harris
Talat Hussain
Shahdab
Hassan Ali/M.wasim jnr(as fast bowl arounders)
Zafar gohar
Shaheen
Rouf
Naseem
Reserves
Husnain
Sameen Gul
Basit Ali(U19)

and this is extremely funny. *Shahdab* LOL
 
Babar isn't probably becoming no.1 in T20I again as long as SKY is around. He has far better chance in Tests and ODIs.

SKY has shots Babar can't emulate, and I'm not even going to mention the difference in mentality.
 
I voted yes, because he does have that ability. That being said, it's highly unlikely still, because it requires an insane amount of consistency. Babar can regain #1 in T20s for example, if he can develop the ability to take advantage of the power play.
 
Babar isn't probably becoming no.1 in T20I again as long as SKY is around. He has far better chance in Tests and ODIs.

SKY has shots Babar can't emulate, and I'm not even going to mention the difference in mentality.

I won't be sure about it. Other players don't play all the games against even B or C teams. Babar plays all games no matter opposition. If you miss games then you lose plenty of points. Not just Sky , but many others are far better than Babar but they don't play all games.
 
Babar drops to 4 in T20 Rankings latest update

Pakistan opener Mohammad Rizwan (836 rating points) maintains his place at No.2 on the latest T20I rankings for batters. At the same time, New Zealand's Devon Conway (788) jumps in front of Babar Azam (778) and into third place following his team-high 84 runs during the series against India.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Babar Azam's updated rankings:<br><br>1 in ODIs<br>3 in T20Is<br>5 in Tests<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1646070179174969350?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Moves up to number 4 in Tests in latest ICC rankings update
 
He can he ranked number 1 in tests, ODIs, t20s, women’s cricket, U12s … who cares when he bats like a coward
 
He will have to cross batting average of 50 first before becoming test #1.
 
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