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Can Virat Kohli be the greatest ODI batsman even without a stellar World Cup performance?

No
1.He has to win IPL.

2.He has to perform in big stage, big stage means only icc odi wc knock out. T20's won't consider.

3.He has to win icc tournament.

No matter what he achieved so far.
No matter his captaincy achievements.

He need to tick all the above 3 points.
That's it.
 
What's the point of these JAMODI hundreds when he can't even score one in a World Cup Knockout match?
So stop playing all other ODI games (including WC group games) except for WC knockouts.
 
He is a ODI great already by sheer number of centuries and high average. He is still behind Viv and Sachin.
 
If you guys were old enough to see king Viv play, you wouldn't make such silly threads.
When Viv came out to bat in his burgundy cap and shirt unbuttoned to his chest, arrograntly walking to the crease, all the opposition players would start shaking in their boots, especially the bowlers and the opposition fans would start praying!
 
Yes he is already the greatest 50 over player ever! its only test where there have been better players.
 
He is a ODI great already by sheer number of centuries and high average. He is still behind Viv and Sachin.

He is not behind anyone - he is better than Sachin in ODI and ViV. Sachin in my opinion was better test player. And now we have likes of Smith who decide to average 65 in test crazy! but ODI definitely no one better than Kholi.
 
Virat Kohli is quickly catching up on Ricky Ponting and Sachin Tendulkar in the list of most match-winning centuries by batsmen in international cricket.
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One could become a great or greatest batsman without world cup success (read Lara) but the problem is one can't be called one with world cup failures. Kohli's failures in knockout games in world cup and champions trophy means he can't become great unless he corrects that record.
 
BCCI on Wednesday took to Twitter and Instagram to wish India captain Virat Kohli on the 13th anniversary of his international debut. Exactly 13 years ago on August 18, 2008, Kohli made his India debut in an ODI against Sri Lanka in Dambulla.

Describing Kohli as one of the finest cricketers going around, BCCI wrote: "#OnThisDay in 2008, @imVkohli made his debut in international cricket.13 years later, with 438 international matches & 22937 runs under his belt, the #TeamIndia captain remains one of the finest cricketers going around."

The right-hander from Delhi was given his India cap after he successfully led India to the U19 World Cup earlier in 2008. Kohli, who opened in all five matches in that Sri Lanka series, did not set the stage on fire but he contributed in almost every match and also scored his maiden fifty in the fourth ODI in Colombo.

Kohli, however, was dropped for the next few series. He made a comeback in the tri-series in Sri Lanka next year involving New Zealand. Kohli made his first big contribution for India in the Champions Trophy match against West Indies later in 2009. His unbeaten 79 gave India an easy win.

However, the innings that really gave flight to Kohli’s career, was his 107 against Sri Lanka in Kolkata while chasing a stiff target. The right-hander did not look back and continued to dish out noteworthy performances in white-ball cricket consistently.

Kohli made his Test debut in the 2011 tour of West Indies and came to his own when he slammed a fighting ton against Australia in Adelaide in 2012.

Kohli was given charge to lead India after MS Dhoni retired from Test cricket in the middle of the Australia tour in 2014-15. He then took over as the India captain in all three formats after Dhoni stood down in 2017.

Kohli is currently regarded as one of the best batsmen across formats. The India captain has close to 23 thousand international runs. In 94 Test, he has 7609 runs at an average of 51.41. He has 27 Test tons to his name in red-ball cricket.

In white-ball cricket, he has a far superior record. In 254 ODIs, he has 12169 runs at an average of 59.07 and a strike rate of 93.17. His 43 hundreds are the most by any current player in ODI cricket. He is only 8 behind the great Sachin Tendulkar’s all-time record of 51 tons in ODIs.

Kohli has 3159 runs in 90 T20Is at an average of 52.65.

The most successful Indian Test captain, however, has not been at his best in 2021. He is still searching for a big score in the current England series to put an end to a close to two-year-old drought of a century in international cricket.

Kohli will have his chance when India take on England in the third Test at Headingley on August 25.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...y-of-international-debut-101629266727994.html
 
I may be in the minority but I think yes he can...and personally I think he is the greatest ever LOI batsman. His only competition imo would be Ponting but the Aussie's longevity at the top can not compare to Kohli's.
 
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