Citizenship Amendment Bill: India's new 'anti-Muslim' law causes uproar

[Local.Dada]

I might not be very popular with my fellow Pakistanis but i don$t see what this bill has to do with us?
If Pakistani citizens who are non muslim want to go to india, then thats a failure on our part that our fellow citizens want to leave their country and move to india.
As far as building up a votebank for the bjp which will lead to more oppression of indian muslims, thats really not our business, they need to sort that out for themselves.

Very well articulated

 

[Slog]

How would I know about what the local barber/tailor say in some remote part of Karachi think? I am basing it on some high profile names in the media as you wanted some facts.

Now as far as the 2nd part go, sure I agree to some extent but you are talking about middle class white/blue collar workers here from a western view point bur there are plenty of less fortunate souls who are being persecuted and have no where to turn to and hence the whole CAB.

There are many Pakistani hindu refugees in India and it is well documented. Many news reports as well.

Don’t you think if there were Pakistani Muslim refugees in India that would be documented as well.

 

[Captain caveman]

Bjp loves jinnah. Pakistan loves jinnah. So dnt know what is Pakistan's issue....

The great man Qadi Azam dressed really well!

 

[Slog]

I might not be very popular with my fellow Pakistanis but i dont see what this bill has to do with us?
If Pakistani citizens who are non muslim want to go to india, then thats a failure on our part that our fellow citizens want to leave their country and move to india.
As far as building up a votebank for the bjp which will lead to more oppression of indian muslims, thats really not our business, they need to sort that out for themselves.

Yes you’re right it doesn’t concern us and the average Pakistani on the street barely knows about it let alone have an opinion.

But this is a Pakistani forum so obviously you will have Pakistanis express opinions if a thread is opened.

Either way it is funny to watch this happening to India from the inside be it these riots and burnings in Assam or the global embarrassment in the media the lockdown in Kashmir has caused

 

[Professor]

you seriously dont know or are trying to be ignorant?

Can you give me an article or any source that says Pakistani Muslims are seeking refuge in India?

I am not saying you are wrong but want to know what you are basing your claim on.

 

[Jeetlodil]

Yes you’re right it doesn’t concern us and the average Pakistani on the street barely knows about it let alone have an opinion.

But this is a Pakistani forum so obviously you will have Pakistanis express opinions if a thread is opened.

Either way it is funny to watch this happening to India from the inside be it these riots and burnings in Assam or the global embarrassment in the media the lockdown in Kashmir has caused

There isnt any global embarrassment on Kashmir. Pakistan PM tried hard in every forum. It fell flat on his face. Note there arent even any riots in Kashmir. Surprising isnt it. Now who is creating trouble in Assam. Illegal Muslim immigrants because they know they will be kicked out and rightly so. There are a good majority of Indian Muslims living in Assam, I know personally who have no issues with this bill.

 

[Captain caveman]

Yes you’re right it doesn’t concern us and the average Pakistani on the street barely knows about it let alone have an opinion.

But this is a Pakistani forum so obviously you will have Pakistanis express opinions if a thread is opened.

Either way it is funny to watch this happening to India from the inside be it these riots and burnings in Assam or the global embarrassment in the media the lockdown in Kashmir has caused

Fair enough its a forum debate.
Modi has been praised by hindu extremists in india, but as a btitish citizen of Pakistani heritage and originally indian heritage, its very sad to see from my point of view, what modi is doing to the great nation of india.

 

[Slog]

Can you give me an article or any source that says Pakistani Muslims are seeking refuge in India?

I am not saying you are wrong but want to know what you are basing your claim on.

He’ll give an article about the clown Tarek Fatah or our ISI agent Adnan Sami

 

[Captain caveman]

From my own personal experiences in Pakistan, i would say that its not hindu pakistanis that are not treated well in Pakistan, but christian muslims who are the ones treated poorly. But i doubt they will be treated much better in india. Maybe [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION] will disagree but even though his a christian, his from a wealthy hindu family. Wealthy people of any religion in india and pakistan are treated well, its not about them but the poor ones.

 

[pillionrider]

From my own personal experiences in Pakistan, i would say that its not hindu pakistanis that are not treated well in Pakistan, but christian muslims who are the ones treated poorly. But i doubt they will be treated much better in india. Maybe [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION] will disagree but even though his a christian, his from a wealthy hindu family. Wealthy people of any religion in india and pakistan are treated well, its not about them but the poor ones.

If you can put aside my suspicions regarding your nationality in the context of Babar Azam can you elaborate on this more.

What was the background of Pakistani Christians? Traditionally, what were they engaged in?

Because in India, Christians seem decent off. The Mangalorean Christians in my state are middle to upper class. Same goes for Kerala as far as I am aware. Usually educated professionals. There are Christian dominated slums in my city, but they are usually recent converts of Dalit origin who converted to escape the blight of Hinduism. But the next generation too is moving out of their social strata with better education. One slum in my city Bengaluru has contributed few national level footballers and other sportsmen

 

[pillionrider]

^ Also remember watching an interview with Yousuf back when he was Christian. At his place, with his family. The surroundings looked dire.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don’t agree with your reasoning but for the sake of argument let me ask this.

Didn’t they (non Muslims) have the option to go from Pakistan to India? They did but many chose not to.

Have you read the Nehru Liaquat pact? You must read it.

 

[Jeetlodil]

He’ll give an article about the clown Tarek Fatah or our ISI agent Adnan Sami

Here is a wiki link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistanis_in_India

You can abuse these two gentlemen but wasnt Adnan Sami a Pakistani.

If no Pakistani Muslim wants Indian citizenship, then this bill has no impact to any Pakistani. No reason for Pakistanis to cry on it.

 

[Jeetlodil]

Fair enough its a forum debate.
Modi has been praised by hindu extremists in india, but as a btitish citizen of Pakistani heritage and originally indian heritage, its very sad to see from my point of view, what modi is doing to the great nation of india.

You wouldnt know that the citizenship listing process in Assam started well before Modi.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you can put aside my suspicions regarding your nationality in the context of Babar Azam can you elaborate on this more.

What was the background of Pakistani Christians? Traditionally, what were they engaged in?

Because in India, Christians seem decent off. The Mangalorean Christians in my state are middle to upper class. Same goes for Kerala as far as I am aware. Usually educated professionals. There are Christian dominated slums in my city, but they are usually recent converts of Dalit origin who converted to escape the blight of Hinduism. But the next generation too is moving out of their social strata with better education. One slum in my city Bengaluru has contributed few national level footballers and other sportsmen

So Hinduism is a blight?

 

[Captain caveman]

If you can put aside my suspicions regarding your nationality in the context of Babar Azam can you elaborate on this more.

What was the background of Pakistani Christians? Traditionally, what were they engaged in?

Because in India, Christians seem decent off. The Mangalorean Christians in my state are middle to upper class. Same goes for Kerala as far as I am aware. Usually educated professionals. There are Christian dominated slums in my city, but they are usually recent converts of Dalit origin who converted to escape the blight of Hinduism. But the next generation too is moving out of their social strata with better education. One slum in my city Bengaluru has contributed few national level footballers and other sportsmen

Let me clear this up once and for all.
I am british born and bred and very proud to be. My loyalty is with Great Britain , but i have love for Pakistan and India but for Pakistan much more if i am being honest. The reason is we consider ourselves of Pakistan heritage as our extended family live in Pakistan. Both my parents, their parents and their parents were born in india. My parents were born in india AFTER partition and spent quite a few years of their childhood in india. My mother was born in mumbai or bombay as it was called then and my father in jalundhar, though both are of panjabi heritage. Then they both moved seperately to Pakistan and spent the rest of their childhood and early adult years in Pakistan before getting married and moving to the uk.
I myself have been to Pakistan several times, a total time spent in Pakistan would be around 7 years from 18 months the longest stay to 2 weeks the shortest stay.
I have also been to india twice, once with work for two weeks in delhi and i met some of my father's extended relatives who did not move to Pakistan for the first time. I got close to one female relative and returned to india fot a 2 weeks to attend her wedding. No problems with visa as i have a british passport and HR at work sorted out my first visa and second time round no issues as i already had been given a visa previously, note my birth certificate has my parents listed as being born in india.
I hope that clears everything up.

Now the point is that rich or wealthy people do not face much discrimination regardless of their religious beliefs in india or Pakistan. Its the poor minorities that do
You say in india its the dalits who have converted to christianity that get discriminated, but from my knowledge the overwhelming christians are from lower classes who have converted to christianity and therefore makes your argument null and void.
Similar in Pakistan as far as i know, is that poor people tend to be christian converts more than wealthy ones, and do menial jobs like housekeeping(naukar/servants) for women and refuse and sewer/ plumbing type work for men.
Having said that, i know personally a few who have sent their children to university and have got decent jobs in banks and businesses, similar to what you said above in india.

We too have had christian represent us in sports.
One of the most famous christians in Pakistan was yosuf youhana who got a place in the Pakistan cricket side as a christian. He later converted to islam but that was after he already established himself as a Pakistan cricket player.

In summary, i dont think there is a huge difference in the way christians are treated in Pakistan or India,.if rich - well, if poor - poorly.

 

[Slog]

Here is a wiki link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistanis_in_India

You can abuse these two gentlemen but wasnt Adnan Sami a Pakistani.

If no Pakistani Muslim wants Indian citizenship, then this bill has no impact to any Pakistani. No reason for Pakistanis to cry on it.

The link just proves my point

Not that Wikipedia is ever a good source but even that is saying that it is Pakistani hindus and Sikhs. Basically exactly what I said

 

[pillionrider]

You say in india its the dalits who have converted to christianity that get discriminated, but from my knowledge the overwhelming christians are from lower classes who have converted to christianity and therefore makes your argument null and void.

I was referring to slums in my city which tend to have a strong Christian population of Dalit background. Wasn't making any argument. They don't get discriminated because they're of Dalit origin. I meant they converted to stop being Dalit.

So Hinduism is a blight?

For a Dalit it is. In fact, it's worse, but those words can't be used here.

If you're upper caste and insist on following a religion, Hinduism is probably the best choice. Even if it means you might end up voting BJP

 

[Captain caveman]

You wouldnt know that the citizenship listing process in Assam started well before Modi.

Ok. But modi seems to be pushing for this pro hindu anti muslim india.
Not that it doesnt bother me, its your internal business, all i am concern with is with Pakistan and a peaceful resolution for kashmir.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well for starters Adnan Sami (obviously already got it), Altaf Hussain a prominent political leader and Brahmdar Bugti a baloch leader.

Those are Pakistani celebrites cashing in on their fame. If I started naming Indians who wanted British passports the thread would need to be cut due to lack of bandwidth.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I was referring to slums in my city which tend to have a strong Christian population of Dalit background. Wasn't making any argument. They don't get discriminated because they're of Dalit origin. I meant they converted to stop being Dalit.



For a Dalit it is. In fact, it's worse, but those words can't be used here.

If you're upper caste and insist on following a religion, Hinduism is probably the best choice. Even if it means you might end up voting BJP

Yet dalits are voting for Bjp these days.The bjp PM is a OBC and the president a dalit.
I understand your hinduphobia. Its the new phenomenon among some.

 

[pillionrider]

The bjp PM is a OBC and the president a dalit.

More like a tryhard Brahmin and a token President. The latter appointment is about as convincing as Amit Shah bowing down to Ambedkar photos during elections.

Yet dalits are voting for Bjp these days. I understand your hinduphobia. Its the new phenomenon among some.

They sure have been. But not for long. It was the initial euphoria. The BJP managed to unite the Hindu vote. In doing so, they temporarily convinced the lower castes they too were equals in the fervor of a revived Hinduism. But they're slowly seeing the truth.

This is not unique to the BJP. Other than few regional parties, no one has cared really about the lower castes. Congress has been upper caste always and just provides lip service to them. Local leaders like Siddaramiah here have been better. But generally speaking, the Congress doesn't have much moral ground vs the BJP on this.

Not sure whom they will vote for in the future, but it sure won't be the BJP for too much longer.

at Hinduphobia.

 

[Slog]

Most major economies giving travel
Advisory against India and Japanese PM visit postponed

 

[Lonewarrior]

Japanese PM Abe cancels visit to India as violence over Citizenship Act escalates

Japan disappointed with the developments in India, said an official
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has postponed his visit to India scheduled between December 15 and 17, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) has confirmed.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/japans-pm-shinzo-abe-says-he-is-still-planning-to-visit-india-next-week/article30294451.ece

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/japanese-pm-abe-cancels-india-visit-assam-unrest-191213091925004.html

ground situation isnt good .....

 

[JaDed]

Yet dalits are voting for Bjp these days.The bjp PM is a OBC and the president a dalit.
I understand your hinduphobia. Its the new phenomenon among some.

Hindutva phobia not some as Hindu phobia. Most that have Hindutva phobia also dislike Fundamentalists from all religions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

More like a tryhard Brahmin and a token President. The latter appointment is about as convincing as Amit Shah bowing down to Ambedkar photos during elections.


They sure have been. But not for long. It was the initial euphoria. The BJP managed to unite the Hindu vote. In doing so, they temporarily convinced the lower castes they too were equals in the fervor of a revived Hinduism. But they're slowly seeing the truth.

This is not unique to the BJP. Other than few regional parties, no one has cared really about the lower castes. Congress has been upper caste always and just provides lip service to them. Local leaders like Siddaramiah here have been better. But generally speaking, the Congress doesn't have much moral ground vs the BJP on this.

Not sure whom they will vote for in the future, but it sure won't be the BJP for too much longer.

at Hinduphobia.

1.Modi is an obc. No matter how you try to spin, it wont change. Amit Shah is a baniya from Shahu caste. No brahmins.

2.Sitting in US you are telling how Dalits will vote in India. Its been 6 months they voted bjp into power.

They very well know thst minority appeasement parties will take their votes and leave them when minorities attack them. There cannot be any minority plus dalit alliance. Babasaheb said that not me.

Hindus across castes are voting bjp, with the exception of Jatavs and Yadavs. That will not change in next few years.

One who calls Hinduism a blight is surely a hinduphobe.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hindutva phobia not some as Hindu phobia. Most that have Hindutva phobia also dislike Fundamentalists from all religions.

Its Hindu phobia not hindutva phobia.

Basically prople want hindus to carry the burden of secularism, pluralism, liberalism, not try to assert themselves as hindus. Simply roll over and die.

 

[andy0204]

Its Hindu phobia not hindutva phobia.

Basically prople want hindus to carry the burden of secularism, pluralism, liberalism, not try to assert themselves as hindus. Simply roll over and die.

Enjoy your fruit,why you are wasting energy?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Most major economies giving travel
Advisory against India and Japanese PM visit postponed

Japanese PM was to visit Assam, thats where protests are. Hence postponed.

There is hardly anything in most of north south and west India.

Protests are mainly limited to assam tripura and few districts of Bengal.

Assamese are protesting as they want everyone out of assam, all illegal immigrants.

Guess what, the district which has most issues in bengal borders BD. This was expected. Lol.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Enjoy your fruit,why you are wasting energy?

I am shocked that people have an issue with hindus trying to be hindu.

 

[JaDed]

Its Hindu phobia not hindutva phobia.

Basically prople want hindus to carry the burden of secularism, pluralism, liberalism, not try to assert themselves as hindus. Simply roll over and die.

It’s not, many Hindus will call out other religions as well, I m fully supporting Uniform law, bring it no partiality to any religion, one country one law no beef ban ,no polygamy, one marriage act and one law for inheritance.

Support that if you believe in equality if not you are just like the others that believe in Religious laws now.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"We are concerned that India’s new Citizenship (Amendment) Act 2019 is fundamentally discriminatory in nature. We hope the Supreme Court of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> will consider carefully the compatibility of the law with India’s international human rights obligations." -- <a href="https://twitter.com/UNHumanRights?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UNHumanRights</a> <a href="https://t.co/ThizC1rWDf">pic.twitter.com/ThizC1rWDf</a></p>— UN Geneva (@UNGeneva) <a href="https://twitter.com/UNGeneva/status/1205473931089629184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[pillionrider]

2.Sitting in US you are telling how Dalits will vote in India. Its been 6 months they voted bjp into power.

lol Where do you pluck out these info from. I'm sitting in my darkened room in Bengaluru.

They very well know thst minority appeasement parties will take their votes and leave them when minorities attack them.

Hindus across castes are voting bjp, with the exception of Jatavs and Yadavs. That will not change in next few years.

I got my Lok Sabha predictions badly wrong. So why are you so worried about my opinion. Unless you can see the writing on the wall

There cannot be any minority plus dalit alliance. Babasaheb said that not me.

Oh Ambedkar... I see... Here's what Ambedkar also wrote:

If [the] Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt, be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say, Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. On that account it is incompatible with democracy. Hindu Raj must be prevented at any cost.

Source

One who calls Hinduism a blight is surely a hinduphobe.

Why did Ambedkar convert to Buddhism and say "I solemnly assure you that I will not die as a Hindu."

Guess it's bye-bye Ambedkar for now?

 

[Professor]

Here is a wiki link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistanis_in_India

You can abuse these two gentlemen but wasnt Adnan Sami a Pakistani.

If no Pakistani Muslim wants Indian citizenship, then this bill has no impact to any Pakistani. No reason for Pakistanis to cry on it.

The link just proved your point wrong. Is that what you were attempting to do? Anyway I am glad that you went back on what you said and now agree that no Pakistani Muslim is seeking refuge in India.

 

[Abdullah476]

Its Hindu phobia not hindutva phobia.

Basically prople want hindus to carry the burden of secularism, pluralism, liberalism, not try to assert themselves as hindus. Simply roll over and die.

There's no such thing as Hinduphobia. People are against the Hindus who want to kill muslims for eating cows. Is that not a justified reason to dislike them? They're not against the peaceful hindus

 

[cric_man]

If you can put aside my suspicions regarding your nationality in the context of Babar Azam can you elaborate on this more.

What was the background of Pakistani Christians? Traditionally, what were they engaged in?

Because in India, Christians seem decent off. The Mangalorean Christians in my state are middle to upper class. Same goes for Kerala as far as I am aware. Usually educated professionals. There are Christian dominated slums in my city, but they are usually recent converts of Dalit origin who converted to escape the blight of Hinduism. But the next generation too is moving out of their social strata with better education. One slum in my city Bengaluru has contributed few national level footballers and other sportsmen

Below are my personal views and observations growing up in Pakistan during the 80s and 90s. These are in response to highlighted inquiry from [MENTION=139758]pillionrider[/MENTION]. For the record, even though we may think this law is Anti-Muslim, Racist, exposes BJP anti-muslim agenda; it is an internal Indian issue and has no bearing on us at all....

Coming back to what [MENTION=37829]Pill[/MENTION]iorider asked.

In Pakistan we had Christians in Northeast Punjab which were converts from lower caste Hindus when the missionaries had come during the British rule. They unfortunately belonged to the lowest socio-economical strata and were consigned to menial jobs. Then you had Christians of Goan descent that had settled in Karachi back in the day. That group was fairly well off and educated. You would find a lot of English teachers and bank associated with last names of Fernandez, deSouza, Lobo etc. My 4th grade english teacher was Ms. Doris DeSouza This community along with the Parsis in Karachi thrived up until the mid 80s to early 90s. However these people with means started to immigrate to Canada & Australia in early 90s purely for economical reasons just like any Pakistani with the means and not because they were being specifically persecuted. On the other hand the christians from places like Sialkot etc have not had much luck moving up the socio-economic ladder and still consigned to menial jobs like house cleaning etc. These are the unfortunate ones that are mostly targeted by the misguided "Blasphemy Laws". In almost all cases, it has been anyone having a personal agenda or vendetta will accuse a non muslim (most case Christians) of saying derogatory remarks against the Prophet (SAW). That was the case with Asia Bibi. She just had a quarrel with another woman that ended up her being accused of blasphemy!
It boggles the mind, why would a minority (who are minuscule in Pakistan) would go stand in the middle of the road and hurl abuses at the Holy Prophet (SAW)???

Some feel good stories
This Christian lady who worked as a housemaid at our place in Karachi was from Sialkot for 20+ years. She and her husband (electrician) worked really hard to educate their 4 children instead of putting them to work at the early age. Oldest son became a sailor in the navy and 2 girls graduated as Nurses in the navy and were commissioned as Officers! So they were able to raise their kids out of the crippling poverty and hopefully the next generation is able to do even better.
I met another Pakistani Christian here in Seattle last weekend. He is an Ex PAF officer, me being an AF brat was able to hit it off. His wife a doctor went to the same medical college as my wife in Karachi (Dow Medical College for any Karachi wala here). He hold a PhD in CS and has multiple patents to his name in the field of video compression. Hails from Faisalabad and had very fond memories growing up in Faisalabad. He spent 10 years in the Airforce and decided to resign to pursue a higher education in the US. He was put on "Stop Loss" list i-e deemed to valueable to let go , then was incented that the Government of Pakistan will pay for his PHD abroad if he signs a bond of returning to Pakistan after completion. He declined that offer notifying that he cannot do it in good conscious. I have known a few that have not gone abroad for advanced studies on GoP dime and then reneged on the bond. He still gets calls from his former colleagues to come back. He visits Pakistan every years and loves it.

Also look up Sikhs in Peshawar. It is a very vibrant community that had the means of packing up and leaving but have stuck to their ancestral abode and are part of the larger community.

These are great stories but very few and far in between. We need to do a much better job of protecting minorities in Pakistan before hankering on others....

 

[KingKhanWC]

I am shocked that people have an issue with hindus trying to be hindu.

No problem but call India a Hindu nation not secular.

I could not live under Hindu rule and it seems Muslims in India are thinking the same.

Violent clashes erupted in Delhi

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-continue-in-delhi-over-new-citizenship-bill

This will be good viewing over the next few years while your RSS government is in power.

 

[Pakpak]

Was following Indians posters with Twitter videos from Delhi and Bengal on another place online and apparently there are tons of protests. Modi is a God send for Pakistan. Taking India to the trash can.

 

[pillionrider]

[MENTION=77086]cric_man[/MENTION] Thanks for the detailed post.
It's not too dissimilar in India. Basically the Hindu caste system percolated down to other religions in the region. I remember watching a docu on Indian Muslims where the same issue was raised of lower-caste converts not being allowed in some mosques. I expect some here to vehemently deny such a thing, but whatever.

The Fernandez and D'Souzas you mention is so familiar. I studied in a couple of Christian schools. My early schooling was in a Catholic one where these names were commonplace. Mangalorean and Goan dominated teachers. These Christians are generally middle class and have their origins in upper-caste converts. There are some like the Thomas Christians of Kerala who even predate Adi Shankara who is often credited with organizing Hinduism as a proper religion. Which is what I was referencing to Mr [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] earlier in the thread.

The rest of my schooling was in a Christian school that belonged to an order consisting of more recent converts. It's called the Church of South India.

Having been a beneficiary of education in Christian educations and their healthcare, I've struggled with the idea of conversion. When I was younger I had a issue with the concept of missionaries. But over the years I've settled down on - if Hindus don't treat their 'alleged own' as equals, how can they be blamed for wanting out. Besides, one could argue that all the spiritual gurus need to be hounded out of the West as they're also converting folk. That is, if Hindus can once and for all decide if a Vivekanada is a true Hindu or someone cool to be referenced as and when it suits them. Are all the philosophies that are often rooted in atheism a part of Hinduism or not.

The only thing in the Christian regard that I feel needs to be ironed out in India are the middlemen who're making a killing off foreign funding and have turned things into a business. Where in the name of NGOs and orphanages they receive massive funds from extreme bigoted Christians in the West in exchange for producing numbers. But the numbers are still minuscule and probably not worth throwing a fuss about. Especially when you consider the benefits the general public gains. This is more apparent in a city like Bengaluru where hospitals have become madness to visit with their monthly targets. Christian-run hospitals tend to be the safest option where you can mostly be sure your prescribed treatment and tests are actually required.

No idea about Muslim educational institutes or healthcare here though. It doesn't seem well organized or reputed. Or maybe I just don't know enough.

But joshila's arguments about minority instituions can rest easy because the RSS have been running schools for a while now. There's one just down the road where I live. And the kids are taught to wish each other and their parents Jai Shri Ram instead of a Hi

 

[Technics 1210]

Hinduphobia in a country where Hindus are a majority? Lol! Heard it all now.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No problem but call India a Hindu nation not secular.

I could not live under Hindu rule and it seems Muslims in India are thinking the same.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-continue-in-delhi-over-new-citizenship-bill

This will be good viewing over the next few years while your RSS government is in power.

1. Muslims in India can make their decision. They rejected the advise of pakistanis 72 years back.

2. Jamia Milia uni is not delhi. Its only a uni in delhi and known for being a islamist center. Next someone will tell me JNU is India. Lol.

 

[JaDed]

Was following Indians posters with Twitter videos from Delhi and Bengal on another place online and apparently there are tons of protests. Modi is a God send for Pakistan. Taking India to the trash can.

Indian going to trash can is good for Pakistan is what you are saying?

 

[cric_man]

[MENTION=77086]cric_man[/MENTION] Thanks for the detailed post.
It's not too dissimilar in India. Basically the Hindu caste system percolated down to other religions in the region. I remember watching a docu on Indian Muslims where the same issue was raised of lower-caste converts not being allowed in some mosques. I expect some here to vehemently deny such a thing, but whatever.

The Fernandez and D'Souzas you mention is so familiar. I studied in a couple of Christian schools. My early schooling was in a Catholic one where these names were commonplace. Mangalorean and Goan dominated teachers. These Christians are generally middle class and have their origins in upper-caste converts. There are some like the Thomas Christians of Kerala who even predate Adi Shankara who is often credited with organizing Hinduism as a proper religion. Which is what I was referencing to Mr [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] earlier in the thread.

The rest of my schooling was in a Christian school that belonged to an order consisting of more recent converts. It's called the Church of South India.

Having been a beneficiary of education in Christian educations and their healthcare, I've struggled with the idea of conversion. When I was younger I had a issue with the concept of missionaries. But over the years I've settled down on - if Hindus don't treat their 'alleged own' as equals, how can they be blamed for wanting out. Besides, one could argue that all the spiritual gurus need to be hounded out of the West as they're also converting folk. That is, if Hindus can once and for all decide if a Vivekanada is a true Hindu or someone cool to be referenced as and when it suits them. Are all the philosophies that are often rooted in atheism a part of Hinduism or not.

The only thing in the Christian regard that I feel needs to be ironed out in India are the middlemen who're making a killing off foreign funding and have turned things into a business. Where in the name of NGOs and orphanages they receive massive funds from extreme bigoted Christians in the West in exchange for producing numbers. But the numbers are still minuscule and probably not worth throwing a fuss about. Especially when you consider the benefits the general public gains. This is more apparent in a city like Bengaluru where hospitals have become madness to visit with their monthly targets. Christian-run hospitals tend to be the safest option where you can mostly be sure your prescribed treatment and tests are actually required.

No idea about Muslim educational institutes or healthcare here though. It doesn't seem well organized or reputed. Or maybe I just don't know enough.

But joshila's arguments about minority instituions can rest easy because the RSS have been running schools for a while now. There's one just down the road where I live. And the kids are taught to wish each other and their parents Jai Shri Ram instead of a Hi

My father, uncles and aunt were educated in Catholic schools (Christ the King & St Mary's for any karachi walas ) in Karachi in the 50s. They were considered the best along with BVS & Mama Parsi (Parsi schools) until Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto nationalized all educational institutes under his misguided policies during the 70s.

My aunt still jokes that she can recite the "Lord's Prayer" in latin much better than most Catholics.
She is a devout Sunni Muslim before anyone complains

 

[KingKhanWC]

1. Muslims in India can make their decision. They rejected the advise of pakistanis 72 years back.

2. Jamia Milia uni is not delhi. Its only a uni in delhi and known for being a islamist center. Next someone will tell me JNU is India. Lol.

1. They realise their error now. Hindu extremists have helped them to his awakening.

2. Irrelevant where the location is. The key point is Muslims are now using violence when protesting, this will only get worse in the years to come.

Got my popcorn for this Bollwyood drama.

 

[Pakpak]

Indian going to trash can is good for Pakistan is what you are saying?

As much as I hate myself for saying what I am about to say, its true. An India in chaos would keep it off us. Otherwise we have seen what BJP do, any excuse against Pakistan and the 24/7 ** goes on. Maybe after the BJP muck up your nation more the Indian people will finally see him for what he truly is. Hot air and nothing else.

 

[kk1992]

Was following Indians posters with Twitter videos from Delhi and Bengal on another place online and apparently there are tons of protests. Modi is a God send for Pakistan. Taking India to the trash can.

Hate driven policies are never sustainable and beneficial for any country, will bear fruits short term but in long term it’s quite destructive as history is evident many times.

 

[pillionrider]

2. Irrelevant where the location is. The key point is Muslims are now using violence when protesting, this will only get worse in the years to come.

The biggest protests going on in India right now are being led by student groups and non-Muslims.

 

[Captain caveman]

You guys are too young to remember this but the years leading up to partition, there was mass sectarian violence and riots between muslims and hindus. Many people died and it was the direct cause of partition, along with the British wanting no more part of india.
So the template has been set, the indian muslims know what to do!

 

[pillionrider]

Indian going to trash can is good for Pakistan is what you are saying?

Can you blame some of them for not being able to conceal their glee. Modi-Shah are systematically destroying the moral legs India used to claim over its neighbors.

As much as I hate myself for saying what I am about to say, its true. An India in chaos would keep it off us. Otherwise we have seen what BJP do, any excuse against Pakistan and the 24/7 ** goes on. Maybe after the BJP muck up your nation more the Indian people will finally see him for what he truly is. Hot air and nothing else.

A country descending into chaos. Economic strife. Rising religious extremism. A constructed narrative of religious and racial superiority. The Army being given more credit than is due. Altering the public perception about the Armed Forces. These don't sound like good news for such a country's neighbours.

I think you should know

 

[andy0204]

Sirf tamasha dekho circus me aur kuch nhi kar sakte.

 

[Hornbill]

The biggest protests going on in India right now are being led by student groups and non-Muslims.

Some guys became quite excited and started posting videos I don't know whether they bothered to go through those.It will be interesting to see their reaction when these guys realises that these violent protesters and their affiliates have blood of illegal Bangladeshi muslim migrants on their hands

 

[Pakpak]

Can you blame some of them for not being able to conceal their glee. Modi-Shah are systematically destroying the moral legs India used to claim over its neighbors.



A country descending into chaos. Economic strife. Rising religious extremism. A constructed narrative of religious and racial superiority. The Army being given more credit than is due. Altering the public perception about the Armed Forces. These don't sound like good news for such a country's neighbours.

I think you should know

Your paragraph all of which is pretty much not true now. Attacks are completely gone now. The government have stability than before. The economic down slide is improving and as for the army's image the army alone on PP gets bashed more than any political party.

In short we have learned and are improving. Your country is going down the gutter and long may it continue for you people to realise the nutter you voted for

 

[cricketjoshila]

1. They realise their error now. Hindu extremists have helped them to his awakening.

2. Irrelevant where the location is. The key point is Muslims are now using violence when protesting, this will only get worse in the years to come.

Got my popcorn for this Bollwyood drama.

1. Realise what? Lol. You can keep having your wet dreams.

2. Anyone using violence will be dealt with using the law and force.

Take your popcorn and watch as Boris Johnson ruins your dreams.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The biggest protests going on in India right now are being led by student groups and non-Muslims.

Thats only in Assam. Because the Assamese want every illegal Bangladeshi out of assam. They have no love for the muslim or hindu Bangladeshi.

The ethnic Assamese vs Muslim riots in BD are well known.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some guys became quite excited and started posting videos I don't know whether they bothered to go through those.It will be interesting to see their reaction when these guys realises that these violent protesters and their affiliates have blood of illegal Bangladeshi muslim migrants on their hands

What do you mean?

 

[MRSN]

You guys are too young to remember this but the years leading up to partition, there was mass sectarian violence and riots between muslims and hindus. Many people died and it was the direct cause of partition, along with the British wanting no more part of india.
So the template has been set, the indian muslims know what to do!

which is break India into 2 again?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Just to add that this was an extremely stupid move by the BJP in any case. The only Muslims looking to move to India are Bangladeshi Muslims and it's unlikely they were facing persecution in BD as they are part of the majority. Now this government has managed to anger Muslims, liberals, opposition, northeastern states who don't want anyone regardless of religion . We should just deport all illegal Bangladeshi immigrants and be done with it.

 

[Stewie]

This has nothing to do with a so called Muslim invasion because there isn’t one..

This was done just to appease the voter base and validate their baseless fear of a Muslim invasion which threatens Hindu majority. It’s like how nationalist whites in the US claim there is a white genocide going on without any evidence.

But who this is really going to affect us all those Muslims living without proper documentation. And there are tons of Indian Muslims who don’t have it.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/14/asia/indian-citizenship-laws-muslims-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

Just to add that this was an extremely stupid move by the BJP in any case. The only Muslims looking to move to India are Bangladeshi Muslims and it's unlikely they were facing persecution in BD as they are part of the majority. Now this government has managed to anger Muslims, liberals, opposition, northeastern states who don't want anyone regardless of religion . We should just deport all illegal Bangladeshi immigrants and be done with it.

All north Eastern states are protected by ILP system. Except Assam and Tripura.

If we are to give into the unjust demands of muslims everytime a political party uses them as a tool then sorry, those days are over.

Congress messed up with the Nehru Liaquat pact and that has to be corrected.

We cannot be held hostage by a minority of the minority population.

 

[cricketjoshila]

which is break India into 2 again?

Not happening.

Those who dont like it here. Be they of any religion or caste or region are free to pack up and leave.

 

[pillionrider]

Your paragraph all of which is pretty much not true now. Attacks are completely gone now. The government have stability than before. The economic down slide is improving and as for the army's image the army alone on PP gets bashed more than any political party.

In short we have learned and are improving. Your country is going down the gutter and long may it continue for you people to realise the nutter you voted for

All the best. Hope it improves enough for you to consider moving back.

Also hope your team can improve its batting, bowling and fielding, the next time they face India

 

[KingKhanWC]

1. Realise what? Lol. You can keep having your wet dreams.

2. Anyone using violence will be dealt with using the law and force.

Take your popcorn and watch as Boris Johnson ruins your dreams.

Your Hindutva nation is a ticking time bomb of hate between religions. By the time its 2030, Hindustan will be seeing communal religious violence on a weekly basis. We will sit back and enjoy the show.

lol Boris is nobody and I don't need to dream, I have more than you can ever dream of.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Your Hindutva nation is a ticking time bomb of hate between religions. By the time its 2030, Hindustan will be seeing communal religious violence on a weekly basis. We will sit back and enjoy the show.

lol Boris is nobody and I don't need to dream, I have more than you can ever dream of.

BJP wants this. Whenever there are riots, it helps the BJP. They have been trying to provoke the muslim indians and ultimately they will be successful. With the absence of smart leaders (except Owaisi), the charge will be led by maulanas in Friday prayers and the angry young among them will resort to violence and BJP will cash in. Something got to give.

I hope you don't mean that you will enjoy the show. There are going to be dead bodies.

 

[KingKhanWC]

BJP wants this. Whenever there are riots, it helps the BJP. They have been trying to provoke the muslim indians and ultimately they will be successful. With the absence of smart leaders (except Owaisi), the charge will be led by maulanas in Friday prayers and the angry young among them will resort to violence and BJP will cash in. Something got to give.

I hope you don't mean that you will enjoy the show. There are going to be dead bodies.

Of course not. I will enjoy the show of the BJP/RSS being shown as the extremists they are and how their extremist supporters become even more extreme when Muslims start to protest in large numbers.

 

[Mian]

How multiple Twitter handles changed their religion to Islam overnight to support CAB: Alt News

Multiple Twitter users claiming to be Muslim took to Twitter and shared an identical piece of text announcing their support for Citizenship Amendment Bill (CAB). “I’m a Muslim. I support #CABBill. I strongly denounce the protests launched by my muslim brothers across the nation. They either didn’t understand the bill and have been manipulated or they’re knowingly targeting the govt as a political move. But I’m very proud of it. Jai Hind”, claimed the users.

The ‘declaration of support’ comes in the wake of the passing of Citizenship Amendment Bill (CAB) by the parliament on December 11, 2019. President Ram Nath Kovind on December 12 gave his assent to the Citizenship Amendment Bill, 2019, turning it into an Act. The opposition has criticised the bill as being discriminatory on religious grounds. The Act offers citizenship to refugees from all South Asian religions, except Muslims, fleeing oppression in neighbouring countries, namely Afghan400istan, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

However, when Alt News looked up the profiles and previous tweets of people declaring support for the Act, we found that several among them used to identify as Hindus. The sudden shift to Muslim identities unsurprisingly happened in the wake of CAB.

Exhibit 1

Twitter handle @thegirl_youhate posted a tweet on March 10, 2019, saying, “I’m hindu bruh”. This handle has identified itself as Arti Pal on multiple occasions.

Exhibit 2

“Bhai mai hindu hu”, replied Twitter handle [MENTION=4801]ambersa[/MENTION]riyaaaa when a user passed a communal slur. At the time of writing this article, a tweet where the handle claimed to be a Muslim who supports CAB has garnered close to 500 retweets.

Exhibit 3

On April 26, 2019, a Twitter user who goes by the handle @NeecheSetopper tweeted, “i am hindu”.

Exhibit 4

“Power of hindu. Proud to be a hindu,” posted Twitter handle @NamanJa82028342 who now has declared support to CAB as a Muslim.

Exhibit 5

A Twitter user with the name BaashaBhai posted a message on April 16, 2019, where he said, “I am a Hindu have never looked at anyone as Hindu , Muslim or a Christian but there are many who show up their hatred for Hindus / Hinduism openly!”.

Exhibit 6

“I am a hindu, and I will not step back again. I am a hindu and this will be hindu rashtra again,” tweeted a user named Dehati Intellectual who also supported CAB by posting the same text on December 14, 2019.

Exhibit 7

Twitter user ‘Khadija’ also tweeted the text and expressed her support as a Muslim. However, in a separate tweet, she declared herself as Arpita Gouttam.

A concerted effort was made on social media to project widespread support from the Muslim community for the Citizenship Amendment Act.

https://www.altnews.in/how-multiple...their-religion-overnight-to-support-cab-bill/

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Didn't Modi the Muslim Killer promised "India 2020 superpower"?

He has failed his voter sheeps. This hateful bill and the daily oppression of IOK are the only things he and his goons can do. Maybe they feel better by oppressing minority, women etc.

Again, thanks to Muhammad Ali Jinnah. May Allah bless his soul.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

My father, uncles and aunt were educated in Catholic schools (Christ the King & St Mary's for any karachi walas ) in Karachi in the 50s. They were considered the best along with BVS & Mama Parsi (Parsi schools) until Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto nationalized all educational institutes under his misguided policies during the 70s.

My aunt still jokes that she can recite the "Lord's Prayer" in latin much better than most Catholics.
She is a devout Sunni Muslim before anyone complains

Sounds like my upbringing except I actually live in a Christian country so it makes more sense.

 

[MP2011]

Multiple Twitter users claiming to be Muslim took to Twitter and shared an identical piece of text announcing their support for Citizenship Amendment Bill (CAB). “I’m a Muslim. I support #CABBill. I strongly denounce the protests launched by my muslim brothers across the nation. They either didn’t understand the bill and have been manipulated or they’re knowingly targeting the govt as a political move. But I’m very proud of it. Jai Hind”, claimed the users.

The ‘declaration of support’ comes in the wake of the passing of Citizenship Amendment Bill (CAB) by the parliament on December 11, 2019. President Ram Nath Kovind on December 12 gave his assent to the Citizenship Amendment Bill, 2019, turning it into an Act. The opposition has criticised the bill as being discriminatory on religious grounds. The Act offers citizenship to refugees from all South Asian religions, except Muslims, fleeing oppression in neighbouring countries, namely Afghan400istan, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

However, when Alt News looked up the profiles and previous tweets of people declaring support for the Act, we found that several among them used to identify as Hindus. The sudden shift to Muslim identities unsurprisingly happened in the wake of CAB.

Exhibit 1

Twitter handle @thegirl_youhate posted a tweet on March 10, 2019, saying, “I’m hindu bruh”. This handle has identified itself as Arti Pal on multiple occasions.

Exhibit 2

“Bhai mai hindu hu”, replied Twitter handle [MENTION=4801]ambersa[/MENTION]riyaaaa when a user passed a communal slur. At the time of writing this article, a tweet where the handle claimed to be a Muslim who supports CAB has garnered close to 500 retweets.

Exhibit 3

On April 26, 2019, a Twitter user who goes by the handle @NeecheSetopper tweeted, “i am hindu”.

Exhibit 4

“Power of hindu. Proud to be a hindu,” posted Twitter handle @NamanJa82028342 who now has declared support to CAB as a Muslim.

Exhibit 5

A Twitter user with the name BaashaBhai posted a message on April 16, 2019, where he said, “I am a Hindu have never looked at anyone as Hindu , Muslim or a Christian but there are many who show up their hatred for Hindus / Hinduism openly!”.

Exhibit 6

“I am a hindu, and I will not step back again. I am a hindu and this will be hindu rashtra again,” tweeted a user named Dehati Intellectual who also supported CAB by posting the same text on December 14, 2019.

Exhibit 7

Twitter user ‘Khadija’ also tweeted the text and expressed her support as a Muslim. However, in a separate tweet, she declared herself as Arpita Gouttam.

A concerted effort was made on social media to project widespread support from the Muslim community for the Citizenship Amendment Act.

https://www.altnews.in/how-multiple...their-religion-overnight-to-support-cab-bill/

These sanghis are the worst possible **** on this planet. They won't hesitate to do anything if it fetches them votes.

 

[bluevision]

The protests in NE states is not to protect muslim migrants, they want all migrants out. There are 5+ millions of illegal migrants, purposefully brought in during Congress rules to consolidate their vote bank. Now, BJP is trying to deport Congressi vote bank and create their own by bringing in non Muslims.
In both cases, Assam and Tripura has been used as the dumping ground. These are already poor states, centrally ignored since independence, why would they take additional burden of more refugess. In Tripura local tribes are reduced to <30% as opposed to 65% of migrant population. https://m.timesofindia.com/india/wh...a-to-forgive-bjp/amp_articleshow/63155511.cms
In Assam, these illegal Bdeshis are the king makers in many districts. Worst of all- these migrants don't even try to integrate, they do as they please because the govt goes to any level to protect their vote banks.

Hence, NE is protesting to safeguard their own existence, their own culture in their own states. These protests have nothing to do with religion, parties, liberal/ right wing agendas.

 

[Romali_rotti]

The protests in NE states is not to protect muslim migrants, they want all migrants out. There are 5+ millions of illegal migrants, purposefully brought in during Congress rules to consolidate their vote bank. Now, BJP is trying to deport Congressi vote bank and create their own by bringing in non Muslims.
In both cases, Assam and Tripura has been used as the dumping ground. These are already poor states, centrally ignored since independence, why would they take additional burden of more refugess. In Tripura local tribes are reduced to <30% as opposed to 65% of migrant population. https://m.timesofindia.com/india/wh...a-to-forgive-bjp/amp_articleshow/63155511.cms
In Assam, these illegal Bdeshis are the king makers in many districts. Worst of all- these migrants don't even try to integrate, they do as they please because the govt goes to any level to protect their vote banks.

Hence, NE is protesting to safeguard their own existence, their own culture in their own states. These protests have nothing to do with religion, parties, liberal/ right wing agendas.

THIS... The amount of damage Congress has been doing to India is beyond diabolical. I hope each and everyone of these illegal immigrant Bangladeshi's are thrown out of the country.. Bunch of cockroaches.......

 

[IndianHero]

Below steps r going to happen in next 4 to 5 years in India

1.) Implement NRC in indian states where there was influx of migrants (mostly muslim) like WB, Tripura etc,.

2.) Remove citizenships for muslims & hindus who fail in NRC test during this process

3.) Bring another CAB bill which grants citizenship to all non-muslims who came to India since 2015

4.) By step 3 some muslims will be left out with no documents & hence citizenship will be removed with no voting rights which is exactly what BJP wants.

BJP believes muslims r congress & left's vote bank & hence they want to reduce their votes.

 

[kk1992]

Funniest thing, RSS/BJP supporters/members are labeling Muslims as Taliban.

Let that sink in, RSS/BJP, the radicalized Hindu nationalists, a party that is hate driven against one particular group is labeling Muslims as Taliban just because Muslims are calling them out for what RSS/BJP is.

 

[Hornbill]

Congress leader Partap Singh Bajwa urges PM Modi to include Ahmadis in Citizenship Bill
https://www.rabwah.net/bajwa-ahmadis-citizenship-bill/amp/

“Despite this, their spiritual and foundational home still remains Qadian, Punjab. Their system of belief began here, within our borders, and given the levels of persecution they face, I urge you to expand the ambit of the Citizenship Amendment Bill, to allow these individuals to return to their natural and spiritual home.”
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have sent these letters regarding the persecution faced by the Ahmadiyyas to Prime Minister <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> ji and Home Minister <a href="https://twitter.com/AmitShah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmitShah</a> ji. The recent CAB Bill 2019 needs to be further amended so as to allow the Ahmadiyyas a chance to return to Qadian. <a href="https://t.co/uY23b6PSnt">pic.twitter.com/uY23b6PSnt</a></p>— Partap Singh Bajwa (@Partap_Sbajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/Partap_Sbajwa/status/1205422840557666305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[KingKhanXi]

I will whole heartedly support Modi if he does this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ahmadiyas can be accommodated i believe. But two issues arise.

1. Shias will ask that they be accommodated too. But there is a solution to that. Iran is a shia country and persecuted shias can move there.

2. Secondly Ahmadiyas were at the forefront of Partition movement. This will create the demand if they can be accommodated, why not other muslims. This is where the issue will stall.

But overall Ahmadiyas should be accommodated.

 

[KingT]

Ahmadiyas can be accommodated i believe. But two issues arise.

1. Shias will ask that they be accommodated too. But there is a solution to that. Iran is a shia country and persecuted shias can move there.

2. Secondly Ahmadiyas were at the forefront of Partition movement. This will create the demand if they can be accommodated, why not other muslims. This is where the issue will stall.

But overall Ahmadiyas should be accommodated.

You don't need to show so much interest in Pakistan's matters

First fix your own problems before coming at Pakistan lol.

First tell your cow vigilantes to stop killing people just because they're eating beef

 

[cricketjoshila]

You don't need to show so much interest in Pakistan's matters

First fix your own problems before coming at Pakistan lol.

First tell your cow vigilantes to stop killing people just because they're eating beef

Your PM is tweeting about Indian citizenship bill. Why?

 

[KingT]

Your PM is tweeting about Indian citizenship bill. Why?

Why was Pakistan mentioned so many times in your PM's election manifesto but India wasn't mentioned in IK's??

Outside of this Pulwama Drama and Article 370 drama, no one really cares about India or talks about India in Pakistan. But you lot are like OBSESSED with us. Your news channels talk about OUR tomato prices while you're importing food from Turkey (a country who opposed your stance on Kashmir).

Your news channels are calling Katie ****ins onto their show just to lobby against a British Pakistani Mayor. )

Lol. How desperate are you???

 

[WebGuru]

Multiple Twitter users claiming to be Muslim took to Twitter and shared an identical piece of text announcing their support for Citizenship Amendment Bill (CAB). “I’m a Muslim. I support #CABBill. I strongly denounce the protests launched by my muslim brothers across the nation. They either didn’t understand the bill and have been manipulated or they’re knowingly targeting the govt as a political move. But I’m very proud of it. Jai Hind”, claimed the users.

The ‘declaration of support’ comes in the wake of the passing of Citizenship Amendment Bill (CAB) by the parliament on December 11, 2019. President Ram Nath Kovind on December 12 gave his assent to the Citizenship Amendment Bill, 2019, turning it into an Act. The opposition has criticised the bill as being discriminatory on religious grounds. The Act offers citizenship to refugees from all South Asian religions, except Muslims, fleeing oppression in neighbouring countries, namely Afghan400istan, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

However, when Alt News looked up the profiles and previous tweets of people declaring support for the Act, we found that several among them used to identify as Hindus. The sudden shift to Muslim identities unsurprisingly happened in the wake of CAB.

Exhibit 1

Twitter handle @thegirl_youhate posted a tweet on March 10, 2019, saying, “I’m hindu bruh”. This handle has identified itself as Arti Pal on multiple occasions.

Exhibit 2

“Bhai mai hindu hu”, replied Twitter handle [MENTION=4801]ambersa[/MENTION]riyaaaa when a user passed a communal slur. At the time of writing this article, a tweet where the handle claimed to be a Muslim who supports CAB has garnered close to 500 retweets.

Exhibit 3

On April 26, 2019, a Twitter user who goes by the handle @NeecheSetopper tweeted, “i am hindu”.

Exhibit 4

“Power of hindu. Proud to be a hindu,” posted Twitter handle @NamanJa82028342 who now has declared support to CAB as a Muslim.

Exhibit 5

A Twitter user with the name BaashaBhai posted a message on April 16, 2019, where he said, “I am a Hindu have never looked at anyone as Hindu , Muslim or a Christian but there are many who show up their hatred for Hindus / Hinduism openly!”.

Exhibit 6

“I am a hindu, and I will not step back again. I am a hindu and this will be hindu rashtra again,” tweeted a user named Dehati Intellectual who also supported CAB by posting the same text on December 14, 2019.

Exhibit 7

Twitter user ‘Khadija’ also tweeted the text and expressed her support as a Muslim. However, in a separate tweet, she declared herself as Arpita Gouttam.

A concerted effort was made on social media to project widespread support from the Muslim community for the Citizenship Amendment Act.

https://www.altnews.in/how-multiple...their-religion-overnight-to-support-cab-bill/

Now this is embarrassing

 

[andy0204]

Saying the same for the great Man jinnah, Pakistan and bangladeshi muslims should be not welcomed in India. Otherwise if BJP grant citizenship to those muslims. Then it would be the insult to the great man. You won't believe RSS even worships jinnah ideology. RSS learns from islamic countries laws and way of living.

Are you trolling?