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Dropped catches & 108 by Labuschagne takes Australia to 274/5 at Stumps (Day 1) of 4th Test vs India

Devadwal said:
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Getting a little ridiculous now.

Past that stage of heroic romanticism where the spirit and grit to keep ploughing through is lauded and more squarely in the “what the hell is going on?” territory.
 
Also great to see Bumrah bring out the drinks at the Gabba and have a quick chat with the bowling group .
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India should ge them out under 225. There for the taking
 
I don’t know if I’ve seen a more mediocre ‘specialist batsman’ play for Australia than Matthew Wade. Legitimately. Even Travis Head I think has higher ceiling and if you’re at that level; you really are screwed
 
T Natarajan is the first ever Indian to debut in all three formats in the same tour.
 
Slog said:
I don’t know if I’ve seen a more mediocre ‘specialist batsman’ play for Australia than Matthew Wade. Legitimately. Even Travis Head I think has higher ceiling and if you’re at that level; you really are screwed
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At this rate they could have just given Marsh one of his many comeback comebacks.
 
Yk313 said:
At this rate they could have just given Marsh one of his many comeback comebacks.
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i think Aussies miss the mark.

Guys like Khwaja, Marsh, Handscomb etc good for home tests provided they have some solid batsmen around them who can take the senior role. Smith and Labushagne can do that. These guys cant take senior roles but as supporting cast in home series' they can do a decent enough job. They would def be better than trash like Head and Wade.
 
Australia tail is way too long nothing after Wade.....Cummins can bat but he is batting way high......a lot depends on Smith Labu... Australia needs to get batsman who can play with intent....Australia again showing a no intent batting
 
Slog said:
i think Aussies miss the mark.

Guys like Khwaja, Marsh, Handscomb etc good for home tests provided they have some solid batsmen around them who can take the senior role. Smith and Labushagne can do that. These guys cant take senior roles but as supporting cast in home series' they can do a decent enough job. They would def be better than trash like Head and Wade.
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Yup, they needed more guys who could score around 40 soft runs and tilt the balance in their favour. Instead they went with Wade and forgot to think where precisely they may fit him.

The Asad Shafiqs of Australia you’ve listed could have played decent cameos here.
 
naseem said:
Australia tail is way too long nothing after Wade.....Cummins can bat but he is batting way high......a lot depends on Smith Labu... Australia needs to get batsman who can play with intent....Australia again showing a no intent batting
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They are more worried about losing the games/series than focussed on winning it when they have batted recently.

It also appears that an out of form Warner has the effect of taking the wind out of their sails with no one else able to up the ante. Obvious why they played a half fit guy, but the desperation is at breaking point.
 
Yk313 said:
Yup, they needed more guys who could score around 40 soft runs and tilt the balance in their favour. Instead they went with Wade and forgot to think where precisely they may fit him.

The Asad Shafiqs of Australia you’ve listed could have played decent cameos here.
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I think Wade did his job as an opener for first 2 tests.
 
Devadwal said:
Atleast he not give any easy boundary like phaast bowler Naseem who destroyed by Aussies & NZ all around the corner
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Dont compare 17 year old to Uncle Ajit agarkar. He still has alot to learn, he will come good when he is ready. Natarajan never seen him before.
 
andy0204 said:
I think Wade did his job as an opener for 2 tests.
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Thought he was “replacing” Warner and so not sure if he quite managed to do it. Seemed quite reticent in his stroke play and found ways of getting out, if I am not mixing things here.
 
JaDed said:
Well you get some brownies for being nice and tactical, also am trying not to abuse Rahane.
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No iam trying to point out that only few of them have mentioned about dropped catch,if it was Kohli everyone would have got beserk.
 
Just heard Warne say Puppuchange was dropped 10 times during the last ashes series ??? Wow, this kid is the luckiest batsmen of all time.
 
Savak said:
Lol at the scared chicken **** Australian batting against a D Indian bowling attack. Have never seen an Australian team play with such a defensive cannot afford to lose to an Indian D team at all costs.
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They should be smashing them on this flat deck, looks like india is getting to
Aussies head now days.
 
I feel Jaddu and Ash would had gotten us in good position here, the same damn team from last match would had brought us real close here!

Lord Shardul here now!
 
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Yk313 said:
They are more worried about losing the games/series than focussed on winning it when they have batted recently.

It also appears that an out of form Warner has the effect of taking the wind out of their sails with no one else able to up the ante. Obvious why they played a half fit guy, but the desperation is at breaking point.
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Yes exactly and it's so unAustralian...!!!!! .
 
JaDed said:
I feel Jaddu and Ash would had gotten us in good position here, the same damn team from last match would had brought us real close here!

Lord Shradul here now!
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Closer? I think IND are already quite close. Just need to tip the game in your favour with one more breakthrough before 160/170. If that happens you should be able to have them 5 down under 220 and wrap it up around 250-260 if you are smart.
 
Savak said:
Lol at the scared chicken **** Australian batting against a D Indian bowling attack. Have never seen an Australian team play with such a defensive cannot afford to lose to an Indian D team at all costs.
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Nz would eat this australian chicken ......effortlessly
 
naseem said:
Yes exactly and it's so unAustralian...!!!!! .
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I remember you being in those other threads questioning India but when it comes to giving credit you wouldn't be there and now here when India will lose.
 
Yk313 said:
Closer? I think IND are already quite close. Just need to tip the game in your favour with one more breakthrough before 160/170. If that happens you should be able to have them 5 down under 220 and wrap it up around 250-260 if you are smart.
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Aus needs one player to play freely, and Wade seems to be that..we are already punching above our weight here..
 
naseem said:
Nz would eat this australian chicken ......effortlessly
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No, they absolutely won't. They were humiliated by the same side last winter. The New Zealand bowling attack is cannon fodder in Australia. Whereas, the batting always manages to find ways to choke, including Williamson.
 
I won't be surprised if :ravi conferred with [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] before picking this team. This selection of Washington Sundar is completely matching the template of picking a Shadab Khan type spinner who can bat a bit outside Asia.
 
Last Monetarist said:
I won't be surprised if :ravi conferred with [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] before picking this team. This selection of Washington Sundar is completely matching the template of picking a Shadab Khan type spinner who can bat a bit outside Asia.
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Sundar is not the issue yet,Shardul is
 
JaDed said:
Sundar is not the issue yet,Shardul is
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I meant that I am pleased that Sundar's selection has thus far vindicated one of [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]' theories about the role of spinners outside Asia.

His other theory related to picking fast bowlers based on height also applies to a tee to Thakur, who is too short to succeed in Australia.
 
This is a below-average team. Not sure how they will survive at Australia's favorite venue with this team. I will be happy if they can take it to 5th day
 
Wicket seems to have flattened out, Luckychange and Wade should be able to take Aus to a good score.
 
Last Monetarist said:
I meant that I am pleased that Sundar's selection has thus far vindicated one of [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]' theories about the role of spinners outside Asia.

His other theory related to picking fast bowlers based on height also applies to a tee to Thakur, who is too short to succeed in Australia.
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Shami is not that tall. HE did well last time. Bumrah is not over 6 either. Thakur basically sucks. He is at best a T20 bowler. Doesn't do well even in domestic.
 
naseem said:
Yes exactly and it's so unAustralian...!!!!! .
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It is always about attrition and discipline in AUS. As a bowling side IND showed they had done their homework for executing individual traps and also long periods of bowling at a (hard) length with no width. AUS are used to free flowing cricket with foreign teams coming over and bowling well for a session and half before going searching for wickets and conceding runs freely.

IND did not do that. They stuck to it and AUS started panicking. Even when AUS were building out their lead, they had to be circumspect as by then the fragility had been exposed.

In comparison, AUS mostly bowled orthodox areas and did not have as many bespoke plans. Normally foreign teams cave under pressure or demonstrate impatience in AUS which IND did not do and it helped expose AUS lack of Plans B/C.

On basis of form, barring SS and ML, there is no batsman in the team who can think about walking into most other top International XIs (excluding Warner as he’s half baked and should not have been played).

Not to mention a line up comprising of Iftikhar, Shan, Imam and Haris in the Top 6/7 crossed 300 twice against the AUS line up in 2019. Was possibly Rizwan’s first tour to any SENA nation. Think one of the tests was a pink ball affair too.

Batting wise AUS has not had the most technically solid batsmen in their team post 2010. SS and DW aside not many memorable players will be immediate names on the starting XI for the decade. ML is new so leaving him out to illustrate a point.
 
JaDed said:
Aus needs one player to play freely, and Wade seems to be that..we are already punching above our weight here..
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I know that. But so far in the series Wade had either looked to stamp his authority and failed or looked to bide his time, and failed.

If he can open up the field today, that would be interesting. As far as IND are concerned, 1 wicket may bring 2-3. Not batting line up where you need magical deliveries. But you do need to take your catches naturally.
 
Lol it really tells the state of Aussie batting that they aren’t totally dominating this second string Indian attack for fun
 
Think in modern day Tests it’s fair to expect 2-4 drops per every innings. I don’t know the last time I saw a perfect fielding performance in tests.

Earlier it used to be mostly Asian teams but now it’s a cricket wide issue
 
Slog said:
Lol it really tells the state of Aussie batting that they aren’t totally dominating this second string Indian attack for fun
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And a year ago when Aus almost beat England in England, posters started calling Australia as the best team in the world :inti
 
Yk313 said:
It is always about attrition and discipline in AUS. As a bowling side IND showed they had done their homework for executing individual traps and also long periods of bowling at a (hard) length with no width. AUS are used to free flowing cricket with foreign teams coming over and bowling well for a session and half before going searching for wickets and conceding runs freely.

IND did not do that. They stuck to it and AUS started panicking. Even when AUS were building out their lead, they had to be circumspect as by then the fragility had been exposed.

In comparison, AUS mostly bowled orthodox areas and did not have as many bespoke plans. Normally foreign teams cave under pressure or demonstrate impatience in AUS which IND did not do and it helped expose AUS lack of Plans B/C.

On basis of form, barring SS and ML, there is no batsman in the team who can think about walking into most other top International XIs (excluding Warner as he’s half baked and should not have been played).

Not to mention a line up comprising of Iftikhar, Shan, Imam and Haris in the Top 6/7 crossed 300 twice against the AUS line up in 2019. Was possibly Rizwan’s first tour to any SENA nation. Think one of the tests was a pink ball affair too.

Batting wise AUS has not had the most technically solid batsmen in their team post 2010. SS and DW aside not many memorable players will be immediate names on the starting XI for the decade. ML is new so leaving him out to illustrate a point.
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No Doubt about it. The Indians surprised the Australians with their bowling strategies and field placements in this series.
 
Slog said:
Lol it really tells the state of Aussie batting that they aren’t totally dominating this second string Indian attack for fun
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I would argue that AUS is a place where Asian teams, in theory, should be able to put up more fight in comparison to say ENG, NZD or even SAF.

Reasons in favour of the idea stem from the largely predictable nature of pitches and weather, a repeatable (methodical) approach whilst bowling and batting, lesser chances of receiving “unplayable” deliveries due to exaggerated bounce or movement (or both).

In reality however, the ferocity and relentlessness with which AUS come at oppositions at home and the usual lack of acclimatisation factor which hits the touring parties, makes all of this quite difficult to actually execute. Moreover, touring teams often do not realise when to force the issue with the bat and when to reign in shots like drives on the up, hooks etc.

Still, feel like it is a region which lends itself to a more formulaic approach at least comparatively speaking.
 
Third session should go for plenty. At Habba & WACA, old ball often goes for plenthy
 
Now Australia dominant position , Toothless bowling by india after labuchange drop
 
New bowl will be key now. Thakur has leaked plenty of runs already.
 
Thread is about Australia and India.

Keep all other countries/nations off it.
 
This is india C or B bowling attack so if Australia gets less than 450 or even 300 it's a shame for them
 
MMHS said:
Third session should go for plenty. At Habba & WACA, old ball often goes for plenthy
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Yes, inexperience showing all over.
The bowlers, after bowling a couple of good line n length deliveries, all of sudden bowl a loosener that deserves punishment.

Pitch seems to have a high bounce on one side where Pant is taking them above his shoulders and the other side seems weird where the slip fielders and keeper were standing a yard deeper, not realizing that it was a slow medium pace bowler and the ball wont carry, otherwise Pujara would’ve taken Labu’s catch.
 
Looks like Rahane dropped the test match when he let LuckChange off for the billionth time. Indians may still be able to draw the test match due to plenty of rain ahead.
 
India would have most likely lost at the SCG if not for Paine's drops.

And now Rahane has returned the favour.
 
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